Dead City Episode 2 Breakdown: OLD Negan Is Back!
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The second episode of Dead City saw Maggie and Negan continue making their way through the heart of New York City. We got to see what life is now like in the big apple, the people who live there, how they get around, new friends and enemies and overall setting the stage for the next few episodes.
0:00 - 0:40 - Intro
0:41 - 2:11 - (New) New York
2:12 - 3:32 - Improvised Weapons
3:33 - 4:47 - New Hilltop & Ginny
4:48 - 5:43 - Maggie & Hershel Jr.
5:44 - 6:40 - Armstrong's Backstory
6:41 - 7:32 - OLD Negan Is Back!
7:33 - 10:00 - Negan, Maggie, & The Croat
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I think we butter get some umbrellas... Its about to rain!
Negans group actually attacked first technically when they tried killing Sasha, Abraham and Daryl. But negan didn't know about that
Seems like that’s always forgotten
how does know he mentioned that when he showed up, some thing like i sent my people to kill your people and you killed more of my people
Plus weren't they getting over on Alexandria or was at Hilltop
It's actually so annoying how everyone forgets that.
and then darly actually attacked first by blowing them all up, but oh well.
I thought the Oceanside comment was a lie, because they don’t want to tell the truth about where Ginny came from. And my first thought was the man on the water tower reminded her of her dad.
The tower is where they keep the grain. Maggie said that Croatia had taken all the grain. Jenny also noticed that she had bread to eat. So she figured Maggie lied and That’s why Jennie went to warn Negan because he maybe in danger. I think Maggie is gonna trade Negan for her son.
I love how the show is basically a big sandbox for Negan to go absolutely wild in. We haven't seen this Negan since season 10 and I'm all for it. #OldNeganIsBack
The Croat was kicked out from the Saviors before Negan ever ran into Ricks group so him being in the lineup wouldn't make sense lol Negan himself specifically said "Well before your time". Infact how does he even know about Maggie. I'm going to assume he has people from the old saviors maybe that have told him or his scouts got information somehow.
Correct, also The Saviors attack Abraham, Daryl and Sasha in the road but Daryl blew them up, i don't know why people keep forgeting that lol
Armstrong also mentioned that Negan killed a man in front of his pregnant wife. I think it is less of a scouting for information thing and more of a case of this event being notorious and talked about among communities for years.
I think you’re slightly overthinking Maggie and Hershel’s strained relationship. Dude acted how literally every other moody teenager would act. I don’t think there’s too much more to it.
I think that scene was there just to show that he isn’t Maggie’s little boy anymore and he’s slowly growing up and becoming more independent. Hopefully this means he’ll have more character beyond being a mcguffin for Maggie and negan to save.
Agreed. I believe that there is some tension there, but for the most part, that's what teenagers do lol
I'll be disappointed if they don't give Hershel even just shades of what Glenn was and they go the comic route where he's a sheltered and spoiled little shit.
It is also pretty evident that Maggie is overprotective, telling Hershel that he needs to be ready because people will come and try to hurt him. Hershel, being a moody teenager is clearly tired of it. You can't really blame Maggie, her father, sister and husband were murdered by people, 2 of them right in front of her.
This was the best TWDU episode in a long time. I love how they let Negan be brutal but still managed to make him likable. The new writer is a breath of fresh air for these characters.
I'll say this episode was definitely a big improvement over the first and I have a feeling Negan's knock knock scene will be in most people's top 5 Negan scenes. So far Negan has been the best part of the show since Maggie doesn't really do much imo. She mostly serves as the reason for the plot to keep moving as she's trying to save her son.
Usually you hit but you missed on a couple of things. The main thing being "Rick's group attacked first." No. The saviors attcked Rick's group twice before the satellite station incident. There was Timmy and the Dick Bregade, and there was that shoot out with Daryl and I believe Sasha and Abraham.
The second thing is that Ginny isn't actually from Oceanside and the New Hilltop is not located in Virginia. Maggie made up that Ginny was from Oceanside so they would accept her in the community easier.
And finally about the Croat; they can't edit him in the line up scene because he should have been gone by that point. Negan mentions in his story that when he tried to kill him, it was before he met our group and when he made contact with the Kingdom.
i really loved this episode it was great seeing old negan come back for a bit.
Same here. It was crazy to me how he can just switch it on like that and change into his old self again
@@thethriftytypewriter Yep, I have a theory that the police guy (i dont remember his name) is gonna help the croat catch negan, and in the later episodes he is gonna find hershel and help negan and maggie take down the croat, maybe him and negan are gonna make a deal that if negan helps him with the croat he is gonna clear him of all the charges against him but idk
@@Mabran424 Not a bad theory. I'm glad Negan explained the Savior backstory. He'll be like the Hulk, and *NEGAN* OUT AS NEEDED ❤
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I think the water tower Ginny was looking at is a grain silo, which goes back to when Maggie explains to Negan that the Croat came and took all of their grain. So it’s weird that Ginny is immediately served bread when she arrives to Hilltop.
Though, if this was the case, we should’ve gotten a scene of Negan mentioning it to Ginny on their way up to Hilltop.
I really love that when Negan slits the Buraz throat you can see him for a split second making the same expression he made when he told Maggie hes sorry for what he did to Glenn, followed up by the not so subtle moment of him taking glass shards out of his bloody hands.
It really adds to the earlier dialogue of him saying he was only a monster when he had to be and builds on the idea that hes been tortured by the things hes had to do
You said in the vídeo that they could use a flashback with the croat in the lineup but negan said this episode that he shot croat BEFORE we even met the saviors on the main show.
The music is great and I’m glad you called it out. Two fun facts about the worst community in the show for those who might care:
- Angela Kang said in Instagram comments at some point that they couldn’t get enough of the actors to film a final Oceanside scene for season 11 and also that Cyndie is alive and was simply on a fishing boat when the Commonwealth raided. I saw it doom-scrolling through the wiki testing my knowledge. I would have preferred them dead and their names added to the memorial, and not having any indication of this even through Lydia verbalizing her mail route is really lame, but whatever.
- Oceanside is allegedly in Maryland. About 60 miles north of Alexandria. This is a good smidge closer than might be intuitive. Hilltop 2.0 could be another reasonable distance north of that? I’m still upset Hilltop 2.0 exists away from the iconic location we know and love - especially since it looked fine in the time jump. I assume it was motivated by logistics which would be lame
I don’t think the Croat knows who Maggie is because Negan said that he shot the Croat before Maggie and the others met the saviors (I could be remembering the episode wrong tho)
yeah, that's right, the croat was before negan met rick and the company
The Croat was gone before The Saviours met Rick's group.
Another fantastic episode. I'm actually excited for the next episode of TWD which is the first time I've been able to say that for many years.
For Oceanside, there was supposed to be a scene in the finale showing that Oceanside survived the attack. It was cut because production issues kept them from being able to film it.
I saw others mention this but, i think that water tower is a grain silo. People believe Maggie could've lied to Negan about the grain since Ginny was served bread. This is because if they had to save grain for the Croat, they might bot be wanting to make much bread
1. The "water tower" is a grain silo if I'm not mistaken. Remember Maggie said Croat took most of the grain? Maybe it was a lie.
2. I think the oceanside comment was a lie.
3. I think Negan said Croat was before Maggie's time.
Negan said he shot the Croats ear off BEFORE Maggie’s time during a skirmish with the kingdom after the Croat tortured a scout and hasn’t heard about or seen him since until Maggie recruited him in present day
A lot of the discussion that I am seeing is just thinking that Negan is back to "evil" and completely disregard the fact he doesn't LIKE being that Negan. He does it because no one else can and he is good at it.
He wants to protect the ones he wants to protect and that's the way to do it.
Just like he said, Abraham died because his people were killed in their sleep, and Glenn died because Daryl punched him and couldn't show weakness and had to save face (also keeping his word that the first one was free but he would "shut that shit right down" if they tried anything else).
I really liked this episode for showing how Negan felt about his past self, hashing it out with Maggie, and then her seeing directly WHY he did what he did (to protect her this time no less) but also how much it pained him to do so. He just walks off and says "we need to go", what was there to say, he hates it but it needed to be done and they are alive and able to escape as a result.
Great episode, I hope they keep this momentum and put Maggie and Negan on more level playing field by the end of it.
They will never be real friends, but they can definitely become comrades by the end of it. Maggie is already conflicted because of her hatred. She sees that Negan changed, he saved Hershel before, Judith, Alexandria as a whole, he isn't EVIL, he just did bad shit and is doing his best to repent.
THE EPISODE WAS ONLY 39 MINUTES??? Damn, it was so good that I didn't even notice.
Maggie watching Negan gut the guy reminded me of when Mr. Krabs uttered “It’s for the best” to himself on that one spongebob episode
I think this was a great episode that set up the rest of the season. Was very nostalgic to see a glimpse of the old NeaGan🔥🔥🔥
Sasha is the most underrated character in the whole show IMO. I feel like you should make a video on her. I’ve been a die hard fan since I was 10 but every time I rewatch she really catches my eye
THATS what you're worried about? best line
shes honestly one of my top favorite characters, rip
A note: Negan said that the Croat incident when he was a savior was “before your time” to Maggie, so I don’t think we’ll be getting a used footage scene. Great vid though!
Love this episode and the dynamics between maggie and negan 😊
This episode was FAR better than the 1st. Glad they expanded the world even with shorter runtime. I wasn't quite hooked but now I am [Edit/also was it a water tower or a grain silo? If the latter it implies Maggie lied about the croat stealing their grain during hershels abduction]
This sho2 has been great so far hope they keep it up
the water tower is something traumatic probably, maybe something related to her father
we'll probably get a flashback episode soon
Had they shown this side of Negan in the end, TWD's ratings probably would've been higher.
I been enjoying Dead City so far
KNOCK KNOCK 😤
I SAID KNOCK KNOCK 😡
Neck beard 😂😂😂😂
Now where were we 🤨
Oh yeah, knock knock😁
Who's there? 😁
Butter 😏
Butter who 🤨
Well you butter get your umbrellas because it is about to start raining 😁
Me watching the first episode.
Me seeing this comes out soon
Just gonna notify
Negan tells Maggie that he had to put on a show to protect his people back in the day with the Saviors and foreshadows what happens later on the episode....and then he puts on a show with the knock knock joke XD and maggie's watching....so she kinda gets it now....of course, it's not and easy thing to understand, but life kinda puts the pieces back together....
I don’t know if it was just me, I did enjoy this episode and it left me wanting more. But the main reason why it left me wanting more is because it felt like this episode just flew by. It felt like the episode was 25-30 minutes honestly
I didn’t think it was slow and boring. I liked it a lot better than then the first episode
a weapons shop like knives, swords, machetes in New York?!?!!!?!!! LMAO good one
Youre not getting the point, Maggie is lying to Negan and bringing him to the Croat to get her son back. She is purposely bringing back old memories so that she has the heart to kill Negan even after he had redeemed himself and they had made up at the end of season 11 as she isn't just a cold blooded killer. Hershel is pissed at his mom because Negan saved him a few years ago when he was a little kid and Maggie likely offered the Croat Negan in a last attempt to get mercy from the croat. He may have recognized her and mentioned Negan and because she saw the way they took over the new hilltop she figured she could tell them she knew where negan was and could get him for the Croat and in return he would leave their people in peace. The Croat probably agreed and took her son and threatened him to make her get Negan to him faster. You could tell that the Croat already had the new hilltop because the grain silos were empty, and several other minor clues throughout the first and second episode suggest Maggie is on this mission, and ginny is just a innocent bystander to maggie so she probably left her there because she knew she would be safest and didn't want the Croat to take her along with Negan and she told them to tell the others that she's from oceanside so that she blends in and the Croat doesn't know of Negan's father-like relationship with her and doesn't try to take her too.
9:11 surprised u didn't mention that Armstrong is definently going to work with the Croat. Theory: The Marshall is going to see how screwed up the Croat is and is going to turn against him and help Maggie and Negan.
As a New York City resident, the lack of guns is accurate, ya don’t just see gun stores out here, if they even exist in the city they’re tucked in REAAAL nice. Knives and swords tho? I know I meat store and a smoke shop that sells those
I just watched it pretty good
this is sorta unrelated but i finished twd which i just watched on netflix and i’m looking to watch ftwd and twd dc but i don’t know where to watch them , what do u think is the best place to watch them? (streaming wise)
RIP Yella, she was taken from us too soon🙏🏻
At @5:11 I dunno why but the reactions you get from Maggie and Hershal makes me believe the drawing of the superhero is actually Negan, and Hershal throws it cuz he knows what Negan did to his family and everything and is therefore dealing with some kind of personal conflict, that could also possibly be why Maggie is so bitter and angry and the main reason she asked for Negans help even though he knows who the Croat is.
Just my personal theory I think would be cool!!!
I will say that as someone who commits to New York regularly for like most of my life, my only criticism of dead city because it seems to be really well written for the most part is how underutilized and also to some degree. It seems like the writers only like know the search level of New York City and don't really know how to write how the city would probably be in the apocalypse. I think the only two good days that they wrote were that all of the boroughs are isolated because literally that's how New York's designed with the bridges that in the disaster they would destroy all of them to either protect the islands or quarantine all the problems onto the island so they don't spread. And the fact that Walker's on the higher buildings would wander off and fall from the sky. Things that I hope they cover. That makes me confused to someone who grew up around New York is what happened to the NYPD because the NYPD is such a big operation that they are often joked as an unofficial six of military wing of the United States government. The United Nations is also there and that's why I'm confused with the no more guns in the ammo because the NYPD is a literally a miniature US army. The second thing, which maybe is where them both I walker comes from, but a huge part of New York City is the subway system and in fact the subway system would be the only thing left to connect the different boroughs after the bridges are destroyed and I can either see it being used as part of the underground of the survivors or that it's a super dangerous death sentence area that everyone avoids because all the walkers have wandered around there. It would also explain why, even though there's obviously going to be huge chords cuz there's a millions of people in New York. It's like oh, I thought they'd be more. Where are they? And then you find out that most of them are in the subway making like really frightening imagery. Also, that would be interesting that occasionally this supermassive underground whore can emerge out of any subway station by accident. Again, this is from someone who's lived in New York City. I thought they would leverage it more. It seems like these are like Hollywood writers or writers from Georgia who've. Maybe visited New York once or twice or looked it up on Wikipedia but have never actually lived there.
I guess Armstrong wanted to see his brother’s fate and to grab the gun to *check* it *off* the list
Actually Negan said that the Croat left before the kingdom was attacked by saviours. So the Croat was there in the beggining and wasn't there during the war, or even during the situation with hilltop.
I just feel like the zip lines are super gimmicky and weird but hell it’s the TWD universe so anything goes I guess.
Also, the modified mail guns were cool. My hubby is a carpenter and I joked that would be his signature weapon if he were a TWD character 😂
It wouldn’t make sense for the Croat to be in the line up. Negan says he hadn’t seen him since he tried to take him out, and that was over a scout from the Kingdom before Ricks group entered the picture.
I think Hershel was drawing Invincible!
A flashback with the croat wouldn’t make sense seeing that he was long gone before ricks group was even introduced to negan
Could you do a character analysis of either Herschel, Tara, Eugene, or Beth? They're great characters and would love to see a deep dive. Esp Herschel because he's my favorite walking dead character
I love this episode especially negan
Pretty sure those "nail guns" are the guns they use to shoot the zip line across the buildings
I wonder why the new Hilltop looks like Terminus.
Ginny cant stop looking at the tower because she is thirsty for the next episode. Like the rest of us
Anyone know how to watch dead city in the uk?
As a New Yorker the idea of them just straight up bombing the bridges seems real asf lol. Also doubt we’d last 20 years or have deer in the city coming down from upstate if there are no tunnels or bridges. In the city there isn’t hardware stores or gun shops like in the south they’re like high class hunting rifles or old guns and shit lol not saying there isn’t any AT ALL but shit over there is hella different and high class.
Wasn't the Croat already gone from the saviours before they crossed paths with Rick?
Who the hell was following Maggie and Negan up the stairs of the elevator shaft? Was it a character we'll meet later or a miss cut in editing? I have spent a huge majority of the time since the episode aired trying to figure it out.
I don't know man , to me the Negan scene it wasn't stupid. If a guy cut my friend's throat and belly in front of me while cracking jokes i would have run away to probably.
They don’t have knifes because in New York City their are strict laws against them
Marshalls (pearly, and partner) have guns.that was a question... why Maggie thru it aside after knocking pearly out.
8:29 I really hate the way people try to justify negans actions. Yeah Rick attacked them first but they did so to help a group they were ALREADY dominating. And they (as far as we know) pulled that one of you has to go so you know we mean business bs with hilltop first.
Correction. Saviors attacked first in 6x06, and 6x08/6x09.
@@Doom-rp2py oh yeah. Good point. Yeah no. They struck first. Screw ‘em.
Walkers in the water tower
Who you think morgan is going to find first
So far the show is starting to feel like the comics or the Telltale games which I am all in for. Especially since the last TWD seasons have 0 style and are just bland when it comes to cinematography. Glad they finally gave Walking Dead a budget again. Glad to see atmosphere and scope again
wasnt ricks group gonna get robbed of everything they had by negans group first?
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Marshall really should've been eaten by walkers while unconscious
Yo
Technically negans group (Timmy & dick brigade) ambushed them on the road in 6x09 so they attacked first
Wait hilltop is in Virginia for real?
Lmao love how they just stand there and just take it instead of just backing up like you said. Gota love when shows make people do really stupid shit
But Negan was the best part and will carry this show. So I can give it a pass lol
Even though they should be used to it by now, shock can make people stupid. Fight/Flight/Freeze, Freeze is by far most common
If you just watched Negan make a knock knock joke while slicing open your groupmate's guts you'd probably be pretty fucking stunned by that and not know how to react. It's literally how Negan built the saviors. Look at the original lineup, Daryl is the only one that isn't really phased by anything even through a gunshot wound until Glenn gets killed. Which part of the shock from him was also that he realizes he caused that. But other than that even Rick didn't know how to react. Most people's reaction is freeze, Daryl's is the rare part of the response which was fight.
I think cry baby Hershel is upset at his mom because she never ended Negan
5:13 she didn’t immediately tell him about Negan. So he feels betrayed. 8:36 ricks group didn’t attack first
Yes they did
I miss ricky dicky doo daa
I’m just very confused what happened to the commonwealth what’s new Babylon why is there hotels are we some what back to a normal life like why do they have cars and guns again why did hilltop move what happened to Alexandria is there a society we just skipped over like 6 years of shit
I dont know who done the cast but he probably forget that Hersel was asian child (+ this actor is also so annoying even more than Carl :D)
What negan did was just evil
Ngl i hope negan dies in the end of this show as a sendoff and to laugh at negan fans for doing the same to abe and glenn
Neck beard with a rattail...
Apperntly in the fenale there was going to be a scene that shows Oceanside being all fine and well which is stupid in my opinion but whatever
The "no guns" thing is one bs aspect of this show.
New York City is FULL of guns. Despite New York City and New York states idiotic gun ban/control laws.
Between the many decades of organized crime being prevalent in New York City and the city's attachment to the rest of the state, which itself is but a partbof the continental U.S.?
Guns are not a rarity and wouldn't be all that rare inside a post-zombie apocalyptic New York City.
Even if one just takes into account the many police precincts and the high likelihood of a military presence being in New York during any kind of catastrophe?
Guns would be a lot more common than the show is representing. Even if they were only mostly in the hands of the more organized groups that might crop up after an apocalyptic event.
Dead city really.,.. 5 f,.$king episodes. Give me a break
The Croats backstory makes no sense at all. As Simon has done worse then Croat but Negan keeps him around. It just makes Negan seem like a hypocrite.
Ngl the crowatt I can already tell is gonna be a horrible villain. He already sucks and he just reminds me of the trapper from how tot rain your dragon 3
I "liked" this video because I like your videos but this series is a big "meh" to me. I'm just not that into it...
Well that’s depressing but also nice for me at the same time 😂
@@thethriftytypewriter I'm not hopeful about the Daryl show, either, unless they bring Carol into most or a sizeable part of it. However, I do have great hope for the Rick/Michonne show that near the end, they will reunite them with Daryl, Carol, Maggie (maybe Negan) and Judith and RJ.
I think I’ll wait until all the episodes are out to continue. This episode was boring and kinda turned me off
The "no guns" thing is one bs aspect of this show.
New York City is FULL of guns. Despite New York City and New York states idiotic gun ban/control laws.
Between the many decades of organized crime being prevalent in New York City and the city's attachment to the rest of the state, which itself is but a partbof the continental U.S.?
Guns are not a rarity and wouldn't be all that rare inside a post-zombie apocalyptic New York City.
Even if one just takes into account the many police precincts and the high likelihood of a military presence being in New York during any kind of catastrophe?
Guns would be a lot more common than the show is representing. Even if they were only mostly in the hands of the more organized groups that might crop up after an apocalyptic event.