The contents of SCJ's teaching are available online. Everyone can check IF it is being taught that Chairman Lee proclaimed that he is God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit. As a Bible Instructor, we never taught it in the center. Chairman Lee himself even explained in the seminars he conducted that he is just a messenger of Jesus. Come to think of it, any Christian leader would say that they are followers and believers of Jesus and would do His work. That's the same thing that Chairman Lee is doing. :)
But the big majority of Pastors in the world dont claim that only and exclusiv they receved the complete understanding of the Biblel/Revelation in a Spiritual event, without any other Witnesses present, directly from God or from a Angel sended by God. And SCJ say only Lee Man Hee's Words can bring you to God. Thats only on Jesus. Lee Man Hee take the autority from Jesus and the Holy Spirit to build his cult. He follows his former cult Leader and Bibel Teacher Park Tae Son, the Founder of the olive tree Movement. Of witch Lee Man Hee was a Member for 9 Years in the 1960s. The Olive tree Movement bulid villages for there 144.000 Members seald by Park Tae Son. The Olive tree teachings are verry close to SCJs teachings. In this villages the Members live toghether seperate from Satans world outside and build pray and wait for Gods Kingdom come Down to Earth.
@@Andy-lt5xi Hello :) There are some misunderstandings in your statement. Let me try to help clear some things up. Firstly, there is only one person who is promised to receive the open scroll in Rv 10. Once that prophecy is fulfilled, then there will only be one person in the world who has this word inside of them (they 'eat' they scroll Jer 15:16). If we want to receive these words, then we have to learn from the one whom God and Jesus gave the word to. This is the promise of God. If we have an issue with this, we would need to take it up with God and Jesus, since scripture cannot be broken (Jn 10:35). Furthermore, we do not proclaim that it is the words of Lee Man Hee which saves us. The word he is preaching is the words of God and Jesus (Rv 1:1-3, Rv 5, Rv 10, Rv 22:16). Just as Jesus came in the time of the first coming and spoke on behalf of God (Jn 17:8, Jn 14:24), the promised pastor of today is speaking and acting on behalf of Jesus (Rv 10:11; Rv 22:16). It is Jesus who choses him, teaches him, and sends him to the church to preach. Lastly, as far as the olive tree movement, and other such things, it doesn't matter where someone has learned before. If this was the case, then non of the disciples would be worthy to preach the word, as they all belonged to some Synagogue, and learned from some priest throughout their lives. Jesus himself would visit Synagogues and listen to the teachers. What matters is that he received and ate the open scroll of the revealed word, has witnessed the events of the fulfillment of Revelation, and is testifying what he has seen and heard (Rv 22:8). As far as the teachings being similar, you can find similarities in almost every denomination within the world, because we all (for the most part) use the same Bible and have the same prophecies for the second coming within the gospels and book of Revelation. That is like saying we shouldn't listen to Jesus, because he is preaching similar teachings to those who teach the Old Testament. I hope this helps. God Bless!
@@scjinstructordo understand what u are saying or that’s what ur cult told u to answer. If u have common sense, you will tell to yourself that everything you’ve said is about lee being the savior of scj and not Jesus. Lee is putting himself in the Scripture by interpreting it. Read your Bible asking the Holy Spirit’s help not lee’ss help/wrong interpretation. Your time is too short, dont deceive yourselves. God is still giving you time to repent. Go back to the True Saviour according to the Scripture, go back to Jesus Christ. Stop deceiving people
Based on what ground he is the Promise messenger God has always been clear with his promise. If he did promise another messenger After Jesus he would have been written plain and clear in the bible. The last Person Jesus promise was the Holy Spirit. Question two let say he is a messenger a messenger of what exactly what destruction. There so many people out there that claim to be messenger of Jesus but do not preach Jesus at all.
Hiyeeee 😊 This podcast is about our faith journey as relatively new members of this church. We wanted to create a space where we could openly share our thoughts on Shincheonji teachings and our experiences being part of it because we love the church and we believe more people should know about the Shincheonji that we know and not just the confusing information online. We knew full well that there would be a down side to doing it on a public platform but we are keeping things open with the comments section in the spirit of dialogue (although we reserve the right to delete the straight up nasty stuff) and we try to respond as much as possible. Anything more than that would be instructor territory 😁 The revealed word of the New Testament is no joke, it is like a sharp sword that should be wielded by expert hands. We are still trying to get there by studying it as much as we can and by God’s grace 🙏🏻 We are only 4 episodes in, I hope you can be patient with us and who knows? Maybe a dialogue with an instructor is something we can try and arrange on the show some time. But right now, you’re stuck with us newbies 😜♥️
@@SCJSkeptic I appreciate the offer, but currently I am focused on teaching those who have faith and are searching for a clear and logical understanding of the Bible and the promises of the 2nd coming. There are many 1000s of people who are into apologetics that I am sure would love to debate you on the issues of God and Jesus' existence, and the validity of the Bible.
@@scjinstructor haha ok cool man. It's convenient to let the "Babylonians" cover that topic for you. I am willing to have a discussion about SCJ doctrine by granting you your metaphysical presuppositions.
I love the part that you two emphasize that.. the chairman of the church claims that he is merely a servant of God who follows the instruction of God and Jesus. For that, I realize how God uses him to such an amazing work❤❤❤
I love the part of having an examination, like whoah😍 i think there's nothing wrong with everything that you two have said. More episodes to come. May God wisdom be with us 😊
There's a lot of practices in Shincheonji that are misunderstood. Thank you for the enlightenment you both are giving everyone. Keep up the great work.
The hope of our faith is Salvation and eternal life. It is everyone hoping for. Let's have a humble heart not to judge but rather to come to the word of truth. 🙏📖Exciting for more episodes to watch.🥰
I like the idea for the listeners "the Good Samaritans" hehe...and yes during our faith walk we rocks and thorns start forming, but thank you God and the work of the spirit in delivering this pod cast to renew our faith and to direct us to our promise of eternal life in heaven by keeping the covenant as an SCJ member.
Good Samariteesss is so cutee hahaha 😆😍 But kidding aside, this topic is so relatable. When you want to check something, google is the key. It's because everything is one search away, but in terms of the Bible it's really a different one. To know the true taste of food, we should try it ourselves. Similar to what you guys are saying. Listen to the testimony and verify according to the Bible. Thank you Best News Ever for this enlightenment ♥️🙏🏻 Always excited for the next one. Ps. I've listened to this episode thrice 😆
thank you for this podcast for clarifying about Shincheonji...everyone says they have the truth?, what is the evidence according to the Bible?...you know listen to it, they themselves came and studied. It's hard to testify that you didn't really see or hear anything, db?, isn't that kind of work a lie? It's really right that we find out for ourselves and not just listen to rumors that have no evidence..
Wow i love what you guys are doing Please shine more truth on shincheonji insults and miss conception about shincheonji People are not understanding what they are against And it's for their own good They are just persecuting shincheonji
If you are a Bible reader you will disregard the "connotations" of the description of the shincheonji on the internet. How can someone call it a cult when all of their teaching is base only in the Bible.???
Just so sad to see people judge something before examining it... I know sometimes it's really difficult to accept the words. In SCJ we were taught to discern even the teachings coming from them...but at the same time we must have a humble heart and listen very well, then leave if you believe that is wrong. isn't God that taught us not to debate or persecute? Anyways love you all guys❣️
I think the that i don't agree with Sinchonji is the belief that Lee Man Hee is the promise messenge of Jesus. I read my bible and even revelation. There is no way Jesus promise a Pastor who will received the revealed word too. However he promise HiS Holy Spirit Honnot only guide us theough all truth of the bible, thag remind us of everything Jesus Spoke , but that also give us the gift of discerning and understanding. Which make me wonder are the interpretation of Shinchonji of the bible correct . Not always. Sometime in class we read the bible and the way. She will interpret it has nothing to do with the context of the bible. I agree that you guys dont teach that Lee Man Hee is God or immortal. New teaching are not alway the truth and the bible warn us about it. The Only Teaching we need to concern ourself about is Jesus Christ Messiah. Part of trinity. That the actuall part where people think you are cult , because you do not teach or even belief in the deity of. Christ to be of equal with God and the Holy Spirit and the other most common part is the doctrine of prophecy and fulfilment that people disagree one. The Second coming of Christ will not be like the 1st one. That Jesus Christ will come for all to see and third people refute the idea that new heaven new church is the church we all my passover too in order to receive eternal life . When the bible clear state thay Salvation and Eternal life is found in Christ alone.
@@BNEPodcast Yes po! Lagi din nakaabang sa mga next Ep. Salamat po sa napakahusay niyong BNEP. Worth sharing po. More power and wisdom from above. Fighting!
@@andresrogerzapatacastillo98 people like you who pretend to be innocent but actually a member of scj are deceivers. Cant you people be honest, as you are claiming you are christians. Fear God! Do not fear lee, he is only human
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I am so encouraged to see your smiles 😊😊😊😊. Thank you for enlightenment.
Thank you so much for leaving us this message, we are encouraged as well! 😊💖
The Holy Spirit causes those who are the Lord’s to understand Scripture (John 14:16-17, 26).
The contents of SCJ's teaching are available online. Everyone can check IF it is being taught that Chairman Lee proclaimed that he is God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit. As a Bible Instructor, we never taught it in the center. Chairman Lee himself even explained in the seminars he conducted that he is just a messenger of Jesus. Come to think of it, any Christian leader would say that they are followers and believers of Jesus and would do His work. That's the same thing that Chairman Lee is doing. :)
But the big majority of Pastors in the world dont claim that only and exclusiv they receved the complete understanding of the Biblel/Revelation in a Spiritual event, without any other Witnesses present, directly from God or from a Angel sended by God. And SCJ say only Lee Man Hee's Words can bring you to God. Thats only on Jesus. Lee Man Hee take the autority from Jesus and the Holy Spirit to build his cult. He follows his former cult Leader and Bibel Teacher Park Tae Son, the Founder of the olive tree Movement. Of witch Lee Man Hee was a Member for 9 Years in the 1960s. The Olive tree Movement bulid villages for there 144.000 Members seald by Park Tae Son. The Olive tree teachings are verry close to SCJs teachings. In this villages the Members live toghether seperate from Satans world outside and build pray and wait for Gods Kingdom come Down to Earth.
@@Andy-lt5xi Hello :)
There are some misunderstandings in your statement. Let me try to help clear some things up.
Firstly, there is only one person who is promised to receive the open scroll in Rv 10. Once that prophecy is fulfilled, then there will only be one person in the world who has this word inside of them (they 'eat' they scroll Jer 15:16). If we want to receive these words, then we have to learn from the one whom God and Jesus gave the word to. This is the promise of God. If we have an issue with this, we would need to take it up with God and Jesus, since scripture cannot be broken (Jn 10:35).
Furthermore, we do not proclaim that it is the words of Lee Man Hee which saves us. The word he is preaching is the words of God and Jesus (Rv 1:1-3, Rv 5, Rv 10, Rv 22:16). Just as Jesus came in the time of the first coming and spoke on behalf of God (Jn 17:8, Jn 14:24), the promised pastor of today is speaking and acting on behalf of Jesus (Rv 10:11; Rv 22:16). It is Jesus who choses him, teaches him, and sends him to the church to preach.
Lastly, as far as the olive tree movement, and other such things, it doesn't matter where someone has learned before. If this was the case, then non of the disciples would be worthy to preach the word, as they all belonged to some Synagogue, and learned from some priest throughout their lives.
Jesus himself would visit Synagogues and listen to the teachers.
What matters is that he received and ate the open scroll of the revealed word, has witnessed the events of the fulfillment of Revelation, and is testifying what he has seen and heard (Rv 22:8).
As far as the teachings being similar, you can find similarities in almost every denomination within the world, because we all (for the most part) use the same Bible and have the same prophecies for the second coming within the gospels and book of Revelation.
That is like saying we shouldn't listen to Jesus, because he is preaching similar teachings to those who teach the Old Testament.
I hope this helps.
God Bless!
@@scjinstructordo understand what u are saying or that’s what ur cult told u to answer. If u have common sense, you will tell to yourself that everything you’ve said is about lee being the savior of scj and not Jesus. Lee is putting himself in the Scripture by interpreting it. Read your Bible asking the Holy Spirit’s help not lee’ss help/wrong interpretation. Your time is too short, dont deceive yourselves. God is still giving you time to repent. Go back to the True Saviour according to the Scripture, go back to Jesus Christ. Stop deceiving people
Based on what ground he is the Promise messenger God has always been clear with his promise. If he did promise another messenger After Jesus he would have been written plain and clear in the bible. The last Person Jesus promise was the Holy Spirit. Question two let say he is a messenger a messenger of what exactly what destruction. There so many people out there that claim to be messenger of Jesus but do not preach Jesus at all.
@citamora Maybe you both should study its free. Are you scared to read the Bible.
If you are so strong you won't get tricked so go study and check.
You mentioned that you are open for dialogue. Can you do a discussion on your channel with me? I have quite a lot to say about SCJ.
Hiyeeee 😊
This podcast is about our faith journey as relatively new members of this church. We wanted to create a space where we could openly share our thoughts on Shincheonji teachings and our experiences being part of it because we love the church and we believe more people should know about the Shincheonji that we know and not just the confusing information online. We knew full well that there would be a down side to doing it on a public platform but we are keeping things open with the comments section in the spirit of dialogue (although we reserve the right to delete the straight up nasty stuff) and we try to respond as much as possible.
Anything more than that would be instructor territory 😁 The revealed word of the New Testament is no joke, it is like a sharp sword that should be wielded by expert hands. We are still trying to get there by studying it as much as we can and by God’s grace 🙏🏻 We are only 4 episodes in, I hope you can be patient with us and who knows? Maybe a dialogue with an instructor is something we can try and arrange on the show some time. But right now, you’re stuck with us newbies 😜♥️
@@SCJSkeptic do you believe in the existence of God?
@@scjinstructor nope
We can do an online debate about it if you are open to it.
@@SCJSkeptic I appreciate the offer, but currently I am focused on teaching those who have faith and are searching for a clear and logical understanding of the Bible and the promises of the 2nd coming. There are many 1000s of people who are into apologetics that I am sure would love to debate you on the issues of God and Jesus' existence, and the validity of the Bible.
@@scjinstructor haha ok cool man. It's convenient to let the "Babylonians" cover that topic for you.
I am willing to have a discussion about SCJ doctrine by granting you your metaphysical presuppositions.
I am a shincheonji saint from Uganda Africa (East Africa )
I will never quite even if to lay my life for it
Halsuitah 💪💪
I'm from Kenya,no amount of misconception will make me change my allegiance to Scj
I love the part that you two emphasize that.. the chairman of the church claims that he is merely a servant of God who follows the instruction of God and Jesus. For that, I realize how God uses him to such an amazing work❤❤❤
Amen! 💖
Amen
@@uniquesonghits funny!
Wow🎉 I can't wait for part 2!! ❤❤
Run
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I love the part of having an examination, like whoah😍 i think there's nothing wrong with everything that you two have said. More episodes to come. May God wisdom be with us 😊
What's your favorite lesson from the class?
Off the top of my head, the lesson on Genesis 🤯 What’s yours? 😃 - Sam
Mine was the Lord’s Prayer!
Tied at number 1 fave, yes! Tina cried 😂♥️
There's a lot of practices in Shincheonji that are misunderstood. Thank you for the enlightenment you both are giving everyone. Keep up the great work.
@@cheryllpearlvillamor339 si lee tagapagligtas nyo?
Yey! 2nd time listening thank you for sharing ur experienced 😁 more episodes
Best Podcast Ever let's us share the love
The hope of our faith is Salvation and eternal life. It is everyone hoping for. Let's have a humble heart not to judge but rather to come to the word of truth. 🙏📖Exciting for more episodes to watch.🥰
I like the idea for the listeners "the Good Samaritans" hehe...and yes during our faith walk we rocks and thorns start forming, but thank you God and the work of the spirit in delivering this pod cast to renew our faith and to direct us to our promise of eternal life in heaven by keeping the covenant as an SCJ member.
Good Samariteesss is so cutee hahaha 😆😍 But kidding aside, this topic is so relatable. When you want to check something, google is the key. It's because everything is one search away, but in terms of the Bible it's really a different one. To know the true taste of food, we should try it ourselves. Similar to what you guys are saying. Listen to the testimony and verify according to the Bible. Thank you Best News Ever for this enlightenment ♥️🙏🏻 Always excited for the next one.
Ps. I've listened to this episode thrice 😆
Social Media has a great part of informing people. Let us be mindful to scrutinize. Thanks for the info.
Very enlightening!!!😊😊😊
This is enlightening for people who don't know about SCJ
Im an avid listener of narrow door, thank god ur back n tina to help us understand what’s the true meaning inside the BIBLE.
Can you define what persecution is?
According to them it’s disagreeing and critique
Thank you for enlightening us and to others about Shincheonji. Great job! :)
Thank you for the info ❤❤
thank you for this podcast for clarifying about Shincheonji...everyone says they have the truth?, what is the evidence according to the Bible?...you know listen to it, they themselves came and studied. It's hard to testify that you didn't really see or hear anything, db?, isn't that kind of work a lie? It's really right that we find out for ourselves and not just listen to rumors that have no evidence..
Stop deceiving people. Fear God!
Wow i love what you guys are doing
Please shine more truth on shincheonji insults and miss conception about shincheonji
People are not understanding what they are against
And it's for their own good
They are just persecuting shincheonji
love it ❤
♥️♥️♥️
If you are a Bible reader you will disregard the "connotations" of the description of the shincheonji on the internet. How can someone call it a cult when all of their teaching is base only in the Bible.???
@@jullezmenardo3256 😂😂😂😂 really? Did you read the Bible? Or just listen to lee? How pitiful
@@faithful7118 I have read it well ❤ you know ever since the Old Testament God uses a flesh to convey his messages to us.
@@jullezmenardo3256 what verse in the Bible did Jesus say He will send a new John?
@@faithful7118 john 16:17
@@faithful7118 John 16:7 try to read that passage
Just so sad to see people judge something before examining it... I know sometimes it's really difficult to accept the words. In SCJ we were taught to discern even the teachings coming from them...but at the same time we must have a humble heart and listen very well, then leave if you believe that is wrong.
isn't God that taught us not to debate or persecute?
Anyways love you all guys❣️
@@unworthy_but_chosen144 same words from all members, brainwashed people
@@unworthy_but_chosen144shincheonji taught you guys to lie, isnt he?
I think the that i don't agree with Sinchonji is the belief that Lee Man Hee is the promise messenge of Jesus. I read my bible and even revelation. There is no way Jesus promise a Pastor who will received the revealed word too. However he promise HiS Holy Spirit Honnot only guide us theough all truth of the bible, thag remind us of everything Jesus Spoke , but that also give us the gift of discerning and understanding. Which make me wonder are the interpretation of Shinchonji of the bible correct . Not always. Sometime in class we read the bible and the way. She will interpret it has nothing to do with the context of the bible. I agree that you guys dont teach that Lee Man Hee is God or immortal. New teaching are not alway the truth and the bible warn us about it. The Only Teaching we need to concern ourself about is Jesus Christ Messiah. Part of trinity. That the actuall part where people think you are cult , because you do not teach or even belief in the deity of. Christ to be of equal with God and the Holy Spirit and the other most common part is the doctrine of prophecy and fulfilment that people disagree one. The Second coming of Christ will not be like the 1st one. That Jesus Christ will come for all to see and third people refute the idea that new heaven new church is the church we all my passover too in order to receive eternal life . When the bible clear state thay Salvation and Eternal life is found in Christ alone.
@@citamora preach!
listening while having my cup of tea..
#Relaxing my Spirit
#ThankYou SAMTIN :)
Thank you so much for clarifications about the misconceptions about SCJ😇🙏
Shincheonji's standard is really the Bible itself.
@@annacavan1867 😂😂😂 funny, kulto!
😞😢🙏
Check it well before we speak ,prove it and try to look closer to the things that you're curious and heard outside
The misconception of SCJ maybe they are tired of what they are doing they didn't remember that we have reward according of what we have done
Good SaMarites haha. Sis Mare anung latest sa SJC? 😅
Kinda offending on my part the fisrt time I heard this Marites online. Marites kasi name ko hehe.
Sis mars, wag ka na ma-offend, you’re perfect for this podcast ♥️♥️♥️
@@BNEPodcast Yes po! Lagi din nakaabang sa mga next Ep. Salamat po sa napakahusay niyong BNEP. Worth sharing po. More power and wisdom from above. Fighting!
#thegoodsamaritess, nice one Ms. Tina and Sam Oh....
ask ko po ano po ang shincheonji at ano po ang itinuturo po dito? Salmat po❤
@@andresrogerzapatacastillo98 people like you who pretend to be innocent but actually a member of scj are deceivers. Cant you people be honest, as you are claiming you are christians. Fear God! Do not fear lee, he is only human
@pulaco dimantag pls listen to this
8:57 grabe ang tawa ko dito LOL!
ang pure lang ng pagkakasabi ni Miss Tina :)
How do we ask ?
Email us! 😊bestnewseverpodcast@gmail.com
Amen.
Shincheonji is free of error using the Bible as the only source of it's teaching.
@@irenemangayabas2379 😂😂😂😂
Funny
Goodsamarites here 🙋🙋
❤❤❤
GMT 😂
@pula
❤❤❤