THE WEIRDEST ALADDIN EVER!! Reacting to "The Thief and the Cobbler" - Nostalgia Critic
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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When Richard Williams started on the film, it wasn't called "The Thief and the Cobbler". It was actually based on a series of books called "Mulla Nasruddin", which were based on fables from India. The author was on board at first and by 1972, they had completed three hours worth of animation. But then Williams accused the author's bookkeeper of embezzling his funds and in the fallout, all their completed work was scrapped.
So Williams started over from scratch and put together a new story which became "The Thief and the Cobbler", but he had trouble finding people to fund it, as potential producers were astounded by his incredible animation, but were taken aback by his demanding perfectionism, which could result in a single shot taking months or even years to complete.
After his success with "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?", Warner Bros. offered to help Williams complete his film, but they warned him that if he didn't finish the film by a certain date, they would take the movie away from him and give it to the Completion Bond Company to finish. And when that deadline passed, he was still ten to fifteen minutes short. So, the Completion Bond Company seized the film, kicked Williams off the project and gave to a new director Fred Calvert, who was told to finish the movie as quickly and cheaply as possible. He not only rushed the film into completion but also reworked it into a musical, hoping to copy the Disney Renaissance, specifically the recent success of Disney's Aladdin, which was released just a year before this one. He also retitled it "The Princess and the Cobbler".
One year later, Harvey Weinstein, the then boss of Miramx, secured the North American distribution rights and he changed it even further, including writing new dialogue, recasting most of the voices, and adding inner monologues to the titular thief and cobbler, who Williams intended to be mute. Again, he retitled it "Arabian Knight". This was the version most people saw in theaters and it bombed big time.
There's no denying Williams was done dirty by Calvert and Weinstein, but he wasn't a total innocent victim, either. Like a lot of great artists, his business practices left a lot to be desired. He held his staff to harshly strict schedules, he would throw out days of work if it didn't meet his exact standards and he fired people pretty much every week of production. But his biggest tragic flaw is that while his animation is incredible, he never had a firm grasp on the story's overall layout. He didn't even have storyboards drawn until Warner Bros. got involved. Because of this, it feels more like he's trying to show off his animation instead of tell a good story.
Williams himself was heartbroken when he lost control of his dream project and until his death in 2018, he refused to even talk about it. And while he acknowledged "The Recobbled Cut" and other re-edits for restoring interest in the film, he refused to watch any of them.
OK so SOME VERY IMPORTANT CONTEXT HERE honestly you should watch "The Greatest Film Never Made" by STEVEM for the full story of how this film was so horribly RUINED by Miramax. This was an Indie Film created by the guy who made the live action animation blending techniques for Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Richard Williams. It took 20 years to make, and technically was never 'finished' because a subsidiary of Disney bought the production, rushed it with cheap animation and a more 'kid friendly story' to market.
Originally, Tack and the Thief were completely mute no narration, there were no songs whatsoever, so many plot holes were created like saying Tack would be a good desert guide, when in reality Yum Yum wanted him because he was proven resourceful enough to break out of prison with just a tack (and because she had a crush on him). The sultan has almost no hangups about Yum Yum going on an adventure, the closest thing he has is saying "If I had a son I'd send him, but I know I can trust you". No animals talk. Many scenes were put in the wrong order, making the threat too obvious too soon removing a subtle sense of dread as we already know who the badguy is.
It's so depressing how ruined this film was. On your own time (or a reaction if you really wanted too) watch the "Thief and the Cobbler REcobbled" it's all free on youtube and shows what the story was going to be originally: Good.
How is it free on RUclips??
I personally would recommend checking out *On The Thief and the Cobbler: 30 Years of Art* by Space Feather
I really like the commentary in it, it's both educational and hilarious
I will take a look at STEVEM's video though, the title itself is just perfect
@@theduckgoesmoo simple. It never made enough money for a big company to care.
It's a shame this movie never got finished and ended up being nearly lost because Disney took the idea for themselves and re-made it into a more kid friendly musical.
This film has such interesting stylization and FASCINATING animation! The number of years it took to make and _still_ not get finished is crazy, but the man behind the whole project was clearly very passionate about it. It's sad that so much effort went to waste...
Frankly, this movie IS the OG Aladdin, and it deserved so much better than what it got.
NC: "You thought the last song was bad? Listen to this one!"
Me: "Must we?"
You and Nate from Renegade Media Group upload Nostalgia Critic videos on the same day, near the same hour, and both movies have Matthew Broderick. :)
Imagine if it was the same NC video lol
I saw the Recobbled Cut earlier, it's so much better. I highly recommend it.
He probably talk in rhyme because rhyming words are magical.
If you want to know more about the production of "The Thief and the Cobbler" checkout ElectricDragon505's "History of The Thief and the Cobbler" parts 1 - 5. It's very interesting and informative.
"That song" is literally the theme song from DBZ. Rock the Dragon.
Are you ever going to watch the unabridged versions of the abridged versions you've watched?
Watch or react? It would be nearly impossible to react to the original DBZ because of RUclips’s current copyright system
Man, if I had the foresight of this being uploaded on July 4th, I would’ve recommended NC’s Independence Day review instead. Ah well, there’s always next week.
That would’ve been so clutch
5:34 Fun fact: Yum-Yum is also the name of the love interest from _The Mikado_ .
Yeah… not sure why Richard Williams wanted to steal *that* name.
Thus this odd trilogy of reviews you started after the Mind F has come to a close. The only way to keep it going is by doing the review that proceeded that video, Twister, not based on the party game, which ends on a huge Mind F moment that you have to see to believe. Will really bring these videos back around in a twisted circle, pun completely intended.
lol imagine a movie based off of the party game
That's almost as ridiculous as making a movie based on a board game *cough*Battleship*cough*
You don't have to imagine, they made a movie about Clue.
It's really good.
so vincent price is one of the greatest masters of horror movies appearing in a multitude of movies tv shows and other such works he even played a character in the 50's ten commandments
6:31
When you said _"I don't like musicals."_
I personally have a love/hate relationship with musicals. Some I do enjoy, such as _The Nightmare Before Christmas_ and some Disney movies and, while I haven't seen the stage musical of _Percy Jackson & The Olympians: The Lightning Thief,_ I do have the soundtrack and the songs were not only catchy, but the singers and lyrics were WAY truer to the book than the fucking movie was.
But there are some I don't like due to the songs being annoying, the songs not evolving the story, I don't like the story, and/or someone I know ruining it for me through their obsession.
I haven’t seen many musicals but the ones I’ve seen are just so rough
Seriously need to watch his review of 'The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog'! Probably one of his most well known and popular reviews. In fact one of the jokes in this one is a call-back to that review, but I won't say which one. XD
the dragon ball z song was from an early dub of Dbz
yeah, i'm a fan of the late Richard Williams' unfinished masterpiece (he died on August 19, 2019, he was 86 years old). while i'm a guilty pleasure fan of the Miramax version (as i've grown up with it and still like it to this day), the true version of the animated film that director/animator Richard Williams originally wanted/conceived is shown on youtube channel TheThiefArchive (or recently, The Thief and the Cobbler Archive Official, by Garrett Gilchrist).
I only knew of this because the miramax version was advertised on every schoolhouse rock tape. For some reason
I saw The Recobbled Cut. It’s worth looking at. I remember the commercials for the Miramax release when I was watching School House Rock on VHS. It was a LONG time ago obviously.
Vincent Price although in a bad movie is still just a FANTASTIC voice and still gives Zigzag plenty of life. May he Rest In Peace. But if you want to see what that man can REALLY do, watch the Great Mouse Detective. He’s the villain called Professor Ratigan and his acting is STELLAR. To the point I STILL reference him to this day. (Favorite lines are “Oh I love it when I’m nasty.” And “I was thinking of the most appropriate way to cause your demise, but I had so many ideas, so I just decided to use them all.”)
I’m sure Critic did a review of it, or at least will one day since he’s been doing full reviews of animated Disneys every once in a while. So watch that to at least get a good idea. And those are fun.
I remember those previews
to answer the Adam question, he's from Metroid fusion and other m. He's Samus's commanding officer. In fusion: he was good. In other m: *me setting him up to be a victim of a firing squad*
I actually remember seeing the original commercials advertising this movie but that was when it was still called Arabian Knight.
I bet that was confusing
Fun Fact:
Donald Pleasence (best known for his role as Dr. Sam Loomis in all but one
of the first six *"HALLOWEEN"* films, Blofeld in *"You Only Live Twice",* and Dr. Jack Seward in John Badham's 1979 adaptation of *"Dracula")* did the animal vocals for Phido the Vulture in the 1992 workprint and the 1993 Fred Calvert Cut of *"The Thief and the Cobbler".*
But when they did the 1995 Miramax Cut of *"Arabian Knight",* most of Pleasence's vocals (with the exception of a few squawks) were replaced with a new voice: Eric Bogosian.
I heard Tac was supposed to be tan through the entire movie. Unfinished animation so his skin was not colored in.
That would make a lot of sense
That's not why
I recommend the weirdest jack and the bean stock movie review that was weird
This movie started production the year my father was born and released almost the same year I was.
I've been wanting to try the Pumpkin Latte, but my dad won't let me because "I don't like Coffee". Does the Pumpkin change the taste of the Coffee?
Okay, _he_ doesn't like coffee but what about you?
@@9Godslayer No, "I" don't like Coffee. My Dad Drinks Coffee everyday. I just want to try a Pumpkin Latte ever since Fall of last Year to see if the Pumpkin makes it good for me. There hasn't been a single Pumpkin Food that I actively dislike, so I'm wondering if that streak will keep going.
@@fireball1249 Thanks for clarifying. It doesn’t taste like coffee at all.
@@9Godslayer Thanks
I'd love to see you react to the Shyamalan movie reviews, I believe Signs is the first one
How many people have actually heard of this movie before watching NC or someone else riff on it? I am just about the right age to have at least heard of it, but nope, never did before he reviewed it.
I actually had the VHS for this Movie. So I had watch it quite a few times before.
The Recobbled Cut is a pretty interesting thing to see.
Happy belated birthday, man.
There's a more in depth review of this by BionicPig that I recommend.
You should react to his review of Patch Adams
You’re reaction channel is underrated. Don’t listen to the haters
Please do Nostalgia Critic: Deadpool 2!
Can't wait for your reaction to the last Death Battle
Please react to Nostalgia Critic's reviews of Disney Afternoon, Fox Kids and Toonami
7:22 Well, you never know - they probably have a ballet school in Tasmania, but I doubt they have Taz as their mascot.
Please react to all the Nostalgia Episodes about the DC-Movies
You will have Stuff for weaks
Please react to Nostalgia Critic - The Wicker Man, is really funny and is where the "Not the bees!" meme comes from. Than you have to watch Nostalgia Critic - Disney Afternoon after that (because It makes a callback joke from his Wicker Man review)
It’s one of those what the fuck am I looking at
How about you react to the animated movies by Don Bluth?
Old vs new Evil Dead please do it that way you have some idea what that army of darkness clip was about.
Man, “Yellow Submarine pride parade” has to be my favourite quote from the video.
You should see Ed Wood. It's my favorite Tim Burton movie.😊
I remember the version of this I saw had... No monologues so I was very confused when I first saw this
If want more animated weirdness I recommend his review of Cool World. It’s one of my favorite NC episodes
I cant even say reactions are an easy buck. If you just want to be as simple as possible maybe. But even reactions take a good bit of effort to make quality and worth watching. Layouts, the thought of a face am or just audio and maybe an avatar. Props to the people that do 2d avatars and literally manually switch out face expressions in post. Thats literally added work if you don't just have a vtuber avatar rigged up.
Then you have to think about how much people want to hear you talk before getting into the reaction and how often you may pause for, the reason behind pausing, and if you pause for way too long. Many reaction channels have this as the biggest hurdle as they pause way too often and talk way too much on a tangent trying to make a joke out of several minor hiccups and end up turning a fifteen minute reaction minimum into a 45 minute reaction. Or they say they're about to get started and then distract themselves talking about something and take five extra minutes.
Reacting is certainly an artform with its own brand of creativity and an audience. People love seeing how others react to things they love and or hate. With how accessible it is its obvious there's gonna be ones that make it and others that might not.
I'm still trying to force myself to figure out how I'd rig up an avatar.
How dare you make one cent?!? For shame!! 😂
4:20 "What?" That's Army Of Darkness... The movie called Army Of Darkness. It's kind of weird but has its charms. The guy there was dealing with some skeletons. I recommend the film if you want to see something crazy, riddled with holes, and yet still somehow enjoyable. It's not great, but I have seen some AWFUL movies. I've also seen movies that are so bad they're good (Velocipastor).
Yea I agree, the movie sucks. I literally can’t understand Disney let Sam Raimi direct Dr Strange and hire Bruce Campell😂😂😂
Can you do a reaction to Alvin and the chipmunks the squeakquel by nostalgia critic
Kirby… please come smack this fool until he binges all of the disney/musicals/classics/cult classics that he missed over the years
Should Kyle react to NC Street Fighter?
"OF COURSE!"
Okay Metroid Other M is notoriously the most hated Metroid Game ever because it makes Samus talk way too much when shes a silent badass bounty hunter that ices aliens like its nothing and instead turns her into a fragile drama queen. Its probably because the game was made by Ninja Theory which doesn't have a great handle of female character writing to begin with.
If Metroid Dread didn't come out, Other M would have been the coffin the franchise pretty much died in. Dread took years of behind the scenes work to come out.
This film is a prime example of the filmmaking rule "show don't tell." All of the inner monologues are annoying and extraneous, whereas the point of each scene they occur in is made far more effectively in silence, simply watching the action
in the original it was show dont tell but then the deadline happened
Well, now that the Richard Williams trilogy of Nostalgia Critic videos has come to a close, I suppose you could make time for the Don Bluth trilogy of reviews; "Rock-A-Doodle," "The Pebble and the Penguin," and.......ugh..."A Troll in Central Park."
...Bring the kiddies.
What cobbler?
Ok so my suggestion is a little bit... odd. It is Bloodrayne by Nostalgia Critic.
It is him and his two friends reviewing the stupid Uwe Boll film Bloodrayne. Specifically Linkara and Spoony.
Linkara is a saint among the old guard of youtube. He still does his stuff today, and has had like zero drama doing it. Fantastic guy.
Spoony like the rest of the "That guy with the glasses" group had some drama.. so you might get a comment or two about that.
I say it is worth the risk, because I really loved that review.
Notice it says on the bottom of this very video "That guy with glasses" yeah this one is old.
You should watch the recobbler movie.
it would be cool to see you react to his adventures of sonic the hedgehog review as the next nostalgia critic.
I had this movie on VHS and I realize how old that makes me sound.
I remember VHS
0:58 Petty Kyle is best Kyle
4:17 Army of Darkness from The Evil Dead movies which I'm sure you've never seen
6:30 Why do you hate happiness
22:06 We didn't believe in that before it was cool
22:54 Ha! Doo Doo
You should do his Jurrasic Park videos since you've now seen the new one
I should!!
have you ever seen any movie in your life.??? Have you been living under a heavy rock mountain under all your life.?
Do Deadpool 2 I mean you love Deadpool
Who doesn’t??
First of a non patreon member
This review is such a mixed bag for me, because on one hand, I am still impressed by the amount of research for this. Both the beginning and end of this review are great. The actual commentary and jokes, on the other hand, are just kind of underwhelming. Not only do most of his complaints apply to the recobbled cut (Something Diva of Musical Hell actually acknowledged in her review of this version), but the jokes felt especially forced this time. Most noteworthy is the return of the pumpkin joke. That literally just felt like 'Hey, long time fans will remember this joke. Let's just put it in there even though it has nothing to do with this film whatsoever'.
Best movie ever
Today is my birthday 🥳.
Happy birthday!!
@@theduckgoesmoo thank you.
Since you are doing movie review channel reactions I figured I'd give you a suggestion:
You should totally react to Pitch Meetings (originally on Screen Rant, now on their own channel). There are only a few channels that have reacted to them, but they are really hilarious. And since there is very limited content from the major companies (it's mostly just the skits), I think it should be pretty safe copyright-wise as well.
NC suggestions
- Jem and the Holograms. A live action adaptation of an 80's cartoon. On par with other adaptations like Last Airbender and DB Evolution in terms of awfulness
- Garbage Pail Kids. Arguably the worst movie Doug has said he's reviewed.
- Other 2 animated Titanic movies. Seen the 3rd review might as well do the whole trintiy
- Battlefield Earth. NC 100th episode
- Norm of the North. 10 Year Anniversary vid
- Never Ending Story 2 and 3. Classics. Latter is easily one of his best
- Felix the Cat. A personal favourite of mine
- Live Action Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtle movies. Crossovers with AVGN and Black Nerd Comedy
- Fantastic 4 movies. See how badly they screwed up Dr Doom. Both times
- Jurassic Park & World movies. Each movies getting worse every installment
- Signs, The Happening and After Earth. More reviews of Shyamalan work
- Man of Steel and BVS. The 2 DC movies that took place before Suicide Squad. The latter also being another clip less review. Both crossovers with Angry Joe
- Wicker Man. Nicholas Cage in a bear costume. Nough said. Also introduction of Tamara as part of the main crew
- Green Lantern. Movie so bad that him and his brother actually got hammered trying to sit through
Reminder from one of his commercial videos but Vincent Price was in the one wearing a polar bear outfit.
Question. Do you mean Neverending Story 3 being the best as in the NC video or the movie? Frankly I thought the series went down in quality once they decided to ditch the book after the first film. The first film was only half the book!
@@calebgoodman3028 Definitely NC vid. Movie itself is awful
I think you'd enjoy hid Weirdest Jack and the Beanstalk review, oor you'll spent the whole thing going WTF. Either works for me. ruclips.net/video/pbS-pUOb15Q/видео.html
i hope he does a reaction vid for this movie and the one from last week on their own.
Definitely check out movie done by Don Bluth; "Rock-A-Doodle," "The Pebble and the Penguin," "A Troll in Central Park"
I watched this movie hundreds of time on vhs as a kid! It's a top favorite. Still makes me laugh.