The Divine Comedy of Pete Holmes
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
- Rich sits down with comedian Pete Holmes to talk about spirituality, consciousness, fatherhood, mid-life struggles, & his new Netflix special 'I Am Not For Everyone.' To read more about Pete and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll788
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:55 - The Challenges of Parenting
00:04:44 - Learning from Past Mistakes in Parenting
00:11:48 - The Journey of Recovery
00:13:09 - The Impact of Pain and Trauma
00:16:19 - The Motivation Behind Fasting
00:21:49 - The Struggle with Addiction and Disordered Eating
00:22:41 - The Ethical Dilemma of Being a Former Vegan
00:30:30 - The Power of Influence
00:31:24 - The Upcoming Special
00:34:14 - The Creative Process
00:39:27 - The Balance Phase of a Comedian's Career
00:40:21 - Comedians Should Optimize their Work-Life Balance
00:42:16 - Moving to Ojai and Finding Happiness
00:48:16 - Evolving a Comedy Career
00:50:05 - The Impact of Podcasting on Comedy
00:56:23 - The Challenges and Compromises of Podcasting
00:58:17 - The Importance of Vulnerability
01:00:31 - The Value of Recording Conversations
01:02:45 - Finding Comfort in Discussing Spirituality
01:07:39 - Comedians Exploring Deeper Topics
01:11:06 - Metaphor as the Language of God
01:17:42 - Mystical Experiences Beyond Psychedelics
01:22:12 - The Ineffability of Spiritual Experiences
01:27:29 - Ketamine Experience and the Concept of Time
01:30:19 - The Story of the Prodigal Son and Going Home
01:36:56 - The Screen of Awareness and the Illusion of Distance
01:37:48 - The Hallucination of Reality
01:38:41 - The Illusion of Self
01:39:50 - Practicing Presence and Beingness
01:42:54 - Pete's Mindfulness Practice
01:48:16 - The Power of Writing Down Suffering Thoughts
01:49:25 - The Discomfort of Letting Go of Anger
01:52:11 - Mercy and Forgiveness
01:57:41 - Reflections on Consciousness
01:58:30 - Closing Remarks
01:59:51 - Credits
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Pete is so underrated. Criminally underrated. Crashing was an amazing show. I highly recommend it. The man cuts deep.
Show should have won writting awards.
Exactly! Sublime writing and pacing. Can’t explain how is not more famous.
I have never heard of the man before. But the things he was talking about and how he introduced them were awesome. One of the greatest if not the number one of all the guests for me personally.
He has a podcast called "You Made it Weird" if you want some more of Pete!
Pete is one of the good ones.
his special is on netflix now and it’s delightful
IVE known of him for many years, you are getting to witness decades of growth defined and redefined.
SAME. Loved this episode. Glad to know of him now!
Protect Pete at all costs. A silly sage for the ages. Love you Pete!!!!
Brilliant. Gorgeous conversation full of gems from the get-go. So grateful to be alive at the same time as these two men.
I have an entire page of notes to myself from this episode. 🙏
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I thought this was a great episode. Pete did us proud. Think what you will of him as a comedian but he’s the worlds best philosopher.
This is one of the best of 2023. I’m just going to book mark the convo around 1:49:22 because it would save us all a lot of cash on the couch. Money better spent on other topics while we are paying for their ear. God bless you, Pete and Rich. This was exceptional!
Agreed. Absolutely incredible.
Have always heard of Pete over the years but only recently started to follow him closely. I Am Not For Everyone was great, and he's become one of my favorite people to just listen to about life. Great episode.
The Badman skits are one of the best things to ever be posted on the internet - and that's saying something, the internet has a LOT of funny content. I can watch them over and over again and still enjoy it.
Pete's stand up has such a refreshig vibe ... like we're thinking it, he's saying it. Can't wait to watch his new hour special.
You had me at “This ladybug does not know she’s Italian..” 🤣👏🏻♥️
Pete Holmes your an enlightened individual comedic genius ❤
I love how he loves Fr. Richard Rohr.
YES! I am so happy about these two worlds colliding! :))
Loved this one so much. Lots of gems in there. Now Pete is on my radar, thanks for the introduction Rich and the team 🙏🏽
This was completely amazing! Never listened to anything this deep on a regular 'ole podcast . A legit dharma talk! Thank you.
You would probably also like Duncan Trussel and Johnny Pemberton. Ram Dass vibes
Incredible conversation. Thank you for this episode. Pete has been such a huge part of my own spiritual path, and I love to hear more of these conversations on “regular” podcasts ❤
I needed to hear this conversation today. A sincere thank you.
Loved the conversation so much! I’ll be looking for more of Pete’s work! Thank you!
This was SO good for me today! Thank you!
I have so loved this podcast! Thanks to both of you!
A most illuminating, amorphous, and illusory conversation. Thanks a bunch.
Love it that he quotes Leonard Cohen.
Absolutely loved this one. So insightful. Thank you.
Absolute fucking brilliance here. I could’ve listened to 15 hours of this. More Pete Holmes!
Thank you for posting these I listen every day while I work out blessings
I screamed when I saw this. I'm about to listen to my dream podcast - thank you both!!
This was truly amazing, love both of you!
I love this. So timely and useful, personally. Thank you.
Excellent conversation indeed!!! There are a lot of gems ❤
Thankyou both
Thank you. This brought me to tears several times, and took me to unexpected places.
Thoroughly enjoyable and worth my Friday night!
Amazingggg thank you Rich!! Please don’t stop talking to these amazing people that you bring on. Trust you always ❤
Please invite @rupertspira as a guest to your podcast, that would be very cool!
This is so good, I have always taken a lot of cues from comedians. Genius vulnerable souls.
I've been a Pete Holmes fan for years and am fairly new to Rich Roll but quickly became a fan - watching the two worlds collide in this episode has been so special
I love Pete’s podcast.
Beautiful conversation - wonderful combination of insights and humor.
Also love that he mentions the Power of Now - truly a transcendent work that will blow your mind.
Thanks for this episode Rich, this guy full of wisdom in his very very unique, funny and beautiful personality, I appreciate you, your awesome work and of your team. Love from Baja, México.
'The scar is better than having no wounds at all.'
Too many today want perfection, not in themselves obviously, but in everyone else.
George Orwell had a little to say about that...
'The essence of being human is that one does not seek perfection, that one is sometimes willing to commit sins for the sake of loyalty, that one does not push asceticism to the point where it makes friendly intercourse impossible, and that one is prepared in the end to be defeated and broken up by life, which is the inevitable price of fastening one's love upon other human individuals. '
"You didn't climb up into my mom's womb with spackle." 😂
19:37 😂
20:34 2 20:38 0:35
So profound. Thank you Pete, you are a light. Rich, your podcast is the best. P.s. everyone hates email 😂. ✌️ ❤
❤ this is remarkably applicable. I am so impressed with this conversation.
Excellent. May you find your Bliss. ❤
Really enjoyed!! Thank you!!! ❤
OMG, I love you guys, what a great conversation!!!
Pete Holmes is my new favorite comedian/person
They nailed it when talking about Pete’s pod. I’ve been a weirdo since 2014 and I DO trust Pete to pick great guests. I DO know Pete enough to have a deeper funnier faster comedy show when I’m in the audience
00:00 🐞 Pete Holmes reflects on the idea of identity, pondering how many aspects of ourselves we carry and who we become when we let them go.
00:14 🎭 Pete Holmes is praised for his ability to blend humor with deep philosophical questions about life's meaning.
01:25 🧠 The conversation ranges from consciousness and optimism to parenting and spirituality, offering diverse insights.
02:10 🚼 Fatherhood has led Pete Holmes to prioritize family over career, bringing a new perspective and balance to his life.
05:06 🌟 Pete Holmes emphasizes the importance of providing comfort and reassurance to his daughter, even in moments of tension.
06:00 🦖 Pete Holmes draws parallels between the fish leaving the ocean after a catastrophic event and human experiences of seeking change after adversity.
11:18 💡 Pete Holmes shares a profound insight about the transformative power of recognizing when certain pursuits or vices don't lead to true fulfillment.
13:20 🔄 Reflecting on his parents' upbringing, Pete Holmes acknowledges the different circumstances that shaped their priorities.
16:26 🥦 Pete Holmes discusses his experience with the 5:2 diet, using fasting as a tool for personal transformation and reevaluating his relationship with food.
21:24 🍝 Pete discusses his relationship with food and acknowledges the challenge of overcoming food addiction tendencies.
21:54 🥤 Pete emphasizes the importance of taking things one day at a time, whether it's about abstaining from certain foods or other habits.
22:48 🐟 Pete shares that he has introduced fish into his diet, attributing this shift to becoming a parent and recognizing the practicality of it.
23:46 🌱 Pete reflects on his past experience with veganism and acknowledges that it's important not to judge others for their dietary choices.
25:09 🥗 Rich and Pete discuss the complexities of maintaining a vegan diet, including potential pitfalls likeover-reliance on refined carbs.
26:46 🎙️ Pete highlights the unique challenges faced by individuals with young children in maintaining a strict diet.
29:30 🌍 Rich and Pete delve into the broader issue of environmental impact and how even seemingly small choices can contribute to it.
32:13 🏃♂️ Pete draws parallels between the discipline of marathon training and the process of crafting a new stand-up comedy hour.
34:01 🗒️ Pete discusses his evolving creative process, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and finding passion in the topics he chooses to explore.
35:41 📱 Pete shares that he texts himself ideas and observations, using these messages as a springboard for developing new material.
37:05 🔄 Pete reflects on the cyclical nature of creativity, noting that ideas may resurface years later, providing fresh inspiration for his comedy.
39:50 ⚖️ Pete emphasizes the importance of finding balance in the later stages of a comedy career, moving away from the constant hustle and focusing on honing his craft.
42:09 🏡 Pete moved to a quieter town, ohigh, for a better quality of life. Despite initial fears, he found it to be a positive change for his creativity and overall happiness.
43:43 🌱 Pete emphasizes the importance of getting one's life in order before considering a major move, emphasizing fulfillment, relationships, and personal needs.
46:17 🚗 Pete finds the drive to ohigh to be sacred time, utilizing it for reading, learning, and making phone calls. He highlights that the perceived time spent in transit isn't necessarily wasted.
47:56 🎙️ Pete reflects on the privilege of having a flexible schedule that allows him to choose when and where he performs or records podcasts, emphasizing the importance of a balanced life.
49:30 🎙️ Pete started podcasting over a decade ago, recognizing the unique opportunity it offered to share vulnerabilities and personal stories, which significantly influenced his approach to comedy.
51:38 🎙️ Pete acknowledges the transformative impact of podcasting on comedy, granting comedians control over their work and allowing audiences to connect on a deeper level with their favorite comedians.
54:52 🎙️ Pete discusses the evolving landscape of podcasting, noting that the pressure to meet advertising expectations can sometimes affect the choice of guests and topics, but he aims to maintain authenticity.
57:11 💡 Pete and Rich share their appreciation for the genuine, unscripted conversations that podcasts facilitate, allowing for deeper connections and insights than conventional interviews.
01:00:48 👫 Pete and his wife, Valerie, prioritize regular open conversations, even dedicating a bonus podcast episode each week to discuss their relationship, recognizing it as a valuable opportunity for growth and connection.
01:02:00 🎙️ Pete suggests creating a structured, recorded conversation with your partner, even if it's not for public sharing. This can serve as a valuable record of personal growth and memories.
01:02:28 📼 Reflecting on past recordings, like tapes from sleepovers, can be treasured memories. Pete encourages regular "pretend podcasts" with a partner, just for the sake of recording and reminiscing.
01:03:52 🎤 Pete's career straddles comedy, writing, and thought leadership in spirituality. He finds fulfillment in unique, non-traditional projects that don't fit conventional stand-up comedy.
01:06:05 🙏 Pete shares his journey of becoming more comfortable with his Christian background. He credits friends like Rob Bell and Richard Rohr for helping him re-engage with Christian language in a more open and curious way.
01:08:22 📝 Pete emphasizes the power of metaphor in conveying spiritual truths. He believes that literalism is the lowest form of truth and that metaphor is a more effective tool for expressing deep, transcendent experiences.
01:09:55 🌌 Pete speaks to the importance of finding a way to connect with the ineffable, whether through psychedelics, quiet contemplation, or other means. He shares that the goal is to feel more at home in the universe.
01:16:44 🌠 Pete references Carl Jung's insight that we're transformed by symbols, not just ideas. This underscores the significance of stories, myths, and metaphors in our understanding of the Divine and the mysteries of existence.
01:20:41 🍄 Pete reflects on how his psychedelic experience at Bonnaroo led him to a deeper appreciation for the ineffable nature of spirituality. It sparked his curiosity about how to convey these experiences using metaphor and language.
01:23:05 🌀 Pete Holmes describes his profound experience with 5 Meo DMT, emphasizing a desire for pure self-awareness and being.
01:24:55 🌌 Pete reflects on the concept of heaven, suggesting it's not a physical place, but rather a state of being where everything coexists.
01:27:28 🧘♂️ Pete shares his experience with ketamine in a spiritual setting, highlighting a heightened sense of lucidity and presence.
01:29:19 🦞 Pete analogizes feeling like a lobster, shedding its shell, emphasizing the profound realization of not being confined to the physical body.
01:32:30 🌟 Pete imparts the core message of his experiences: understanding that we are unconditionally accepted and loved, akin to the Prodigal Son's return home.
01:35:02 🧭 Pete offers guidance for those seeking to connect with their true selves, recommending practices like mindfulness and exploring present moment awareness.
01:36:08 🌠 The conversation delves into the illusion of self and the importance of recognizing that all experiences are appearances in Consciousness.
01:39:04 🚀 Pete suggests resources like Eckhart Tolle's "The Power of Now" and Muji's "Invitation to Freedom" meditation as accessible starting points for self-discovery.
01:43:29 🌧️ Pete emphasizes that life's challenges and pains serve as reminders to reconnect with the core understanding of self and presence.
01:43:43 🧘♂️ Pete Holmes emphasizes the importance of recognizing and accepting negative emotions without judgment.
01:44:24 🧠 Resistance and attachment lead to suffering; removing them short circuits the cycle of suffering.
01:45:31 🤔 Byron Katie's "The Work" is a transformative practice for challenging and reframing beliefs causing suffering.
01:47:07 🔄 Practicing turnarounds in "The Work" helps shift perspective and find new truths in challenging situations.
01:48:43 🧘♂️ Forgiveness is not just an intellectual exercise; true forgiveness arises from recognizing our interconnectedness and showing mercy.
01:53:03 🔄 Recognizing that we are constantly changing beings helps in forgiving ourselves and others for past actions.
01:56:01 🔄 Imagining ourselves in someone else's circumstances allows for understanding and compassion, reducing judgment.
01:58:42 🤝 Embracing the impermanence and ups and downs of life is a key aspect of spiritual growth and self-acceptance.
1:29:19 is SO important. It's why Monks meditate for all of us. It's kinda like thanking your pilot after you've landed.
Thank you for this! What began as an inquisitive "what's this video", became an insightful treasure trove with lots of clues to find the next puzzle pieces.. cheers
I Loved this so much!!! THIS is the good stuff
That's gotta be good- looking forward! Love from Austria.
Lovin the conversation guys🙏
Absolutely love this ❤ My peeps!!
My daughter turned 5 in September also. She is my greatest teacher. She has taught me how to be a man.
Pete Holmes is one of the most enjoyable people on the planet! Looking forward to the Netflix special! He’s a sage! ❤
This pod popped up in my algorithm probably because of Pete. Really liking your interview style and Pete's last special was great. He's just goofy and fun
Im uk an haven't heard of pete before so now im interested to know more- same for you rich - cheers 👍 thanks buddy 🤝... 🙌
"If you were him, you'd be him." Is beautiful but I actually think to myself, "If I was him, I'd be worse."
Beautiful interview. Pete is awesome.
This is one of the best podcast ever!
So glad he brought up Byron Katie, she is one of my greatest teachers.
Pete is intelligent and his humor like a breath of fresh air!! 😊
This was amazing on every level-even the stuff that one might not understand...because the bottom line is; "life is to accept that you are already accepted. Thank you Pete Holmes, and to you Rich, as always!
Amazing interview
Naming your child Leela is a wonderful reminder of the Divine Play all around us 🙏💗🌍
So cute when he talks about his daughter.
Amazing show. Thanks!
I discovered him a few weeks ago with his much needed dig at the atheists, ie "the nothing people"; I shared it with a few people. Keep up the good work, Pete- you are truly an instrument of God's loving grace❤
Just Wow, Wow, Wow…loved it!
What a fantastic discussion.
What a healing conversation even though I wasn't part of it.
One word...brilliant!!
As a person from Decatur, IL, I am fascinated beyond words that Rich seemed to pull that location out of some deep recess of his mind-library of "obscure, sleepy towns". I mean, it's spot on, but where did it come from, Rich!? What's the story here?
he’s for everyone and he’s hilarious
a great interview
That was remarkably insightful.
I love his Sherlock Holmes skit
so good!
"Your life is complicated and you're tired and when you're tired you reach for the thing that's less healthy." This is subjective and a little bit "judgey." There is nothing "less healthy" about grilled fish and broccoli especially when you don't compare it to anything. 🤷♂️
Great conversation though. Love Pete! 👍🤘
Great guest
I loved this. I had stuff to do that I put off cause this was too good
🦞 brilliant! 🦞
Had to listen to this one twice!
Great ep
The Bizznizz of the Izznizz. Great Snoop Dogg album. LOVE YOU, Pete!
Come back to the green side, Pete! 🌱
? He isn't vegan anymore??
I really enjoyed this episode. But I enjoy most all the episodes.
This was great 👍 😊
Shout out Pete, I miss his late night show
Pete Holmes is my spirit animal ⚡
I am safe, lovable and good.
First! Much love y'all.
Really enjoyed the section about parenting in the beginning- would definitely like more guest reflections on different aspects of parenting and the juggle and will explore some of Petes comedy.
I hear his takes and absorb reflections on reality and coming out of the body to a higher self- or non self- and links to Eckhart etc and I can see the value of all this to some-
However, not to get into philosophical discussion here and this isn't trying to put forward an alternative/dual perspective but just in my own experience exploring these issues- I would say I have found some value in actually doing body practices rather than those explored by Pete and actively using and experiencing the proprioceptive aspect of the senses and how we engage with the world physically- when experiencing feelings of dissociation and fear around the questions of -do we really exist/what is consciousness/reality- Ive personally found digging deeper into this in a meditative way has not been as helpful sometimes (and I have read this can be common) but that using the body as the anchor to feeling more grounded- using things like massage, hugging people (not random ones!) cooking,using my hands to actually feel a safer way in- also I think we need to be wary of placing too much value on higher states of consciousness being the better way (not really saying Pete is doing this but it can feel like that in these types of discussions) because they arent always attainable for some- and actually I dont always feel I need them personally to feel good- I can separate self from ego just by virtue of being a parents sometimes :-)
Again this is not me getting into an intellectual discussion as I am not that way trained/read or inclined just offering an alternative thread to the discussion.
As always though I loved the nature of your discussion/the connection Rich- the interaction the natural ability you have to listen and try to relate and also to question how you are receiving the info and also to ask the guest to tangibly relate practice and extrapolate this from their content- thanks both
I’m glad the conversation about veganism segued to address the human suffering caused by the labor required under “consumerism,” I’d like to call out what the sentiment boils down to, which is “there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.” No matter what it is you’re ‘consuming,’ you can follow threads back through how the product came to be and find suffering at the end of it. There’s an argument to be made that ethical veganism is harm reduction, but there’s no use being on a high horse about it unless you can address the human suffering of what you consume as well. Which is (currently) impossible.
The first 5 seconds is sooooo Pete Holmes and absolutely hilarious 😂
Pete, Ruper, Mooji, Eckard Tole and all the others will also share a teaching to grab, now you're ready to hear Angelo : Simply Always Awake ... Thank me later. 💙Nice conversation Rich.
oooohhh I love this ! Treasures> I'm soooOOOoo doing this with my husband. Damn. Why didn't we think of this sooner
My favorite audio content is myself talking in my journal. I often think it would be a hot podcast about loneliness, self love and getting out of your own way. Plus I'm playful and foolish and pathetic. I wouldn't have the courage to put it out there...but it's high on my list of fantasies.
do it under a pseudonym!
Shout out to Decatur, Illinois! 😃
Pete is so deep and also so silly. Amazing human.