Wireless OR Wired Backhaul Benefits -Mesh Router Experimentation!
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Which is faster? Wireless or Wired Backhaul connection benefits? Check out this short DIY session! Mesh Router Experimentation!
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This is exactly what I needed Chester
Hi, Chester. Thanks for the video! It answered exactly the question that I had on my mind. (And, wow, I wish my internet speed was that fast here in Canada!)
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for testing!
it was a fun experiment nevertheless. haha was a lot of work and running up and down the house
Thanks !! Good information!!!
Dude you tested to two different servers when doing the speed test. Already an uncontrollable variable there as you cannot confirm the throughput on the other end,/how busy the server is. You should really test to a single end location to get accurate results. But yes wired is always better than wireless provided you're not bottlenecked by switchport speeds :)
Awesome info, thanks for the tip!
Plus in addition you free up wireless bandwidth for wireless devices like mobile phones, tablets or computers. I'm building my own home LAN with TVs and video cams with wired connections for that puropse. That way when at home I can enjoy more free bandwitdth on my mobile devices.
I know right, that makes this whole video pointless.
damn that upload speed though
Thank you
I have 2 Decos M5 which 1 is connected directly to my módem and the other one is wiresly connected to the main deco. My question Here is will i have a fast and stable internet conection if i use the ethernet connection from the 2nd deco instead of using a very very long ethernet cable but directly Connected to the módem ?
can you show how conect bot deco (two deco´s)? and a cuestion why restar deco´s. (I´m sorry my English is not good)
Dude, how do you have a fiber connection with that much speed? Damn!!
i have 1000mbps down and up and I am in the Netherlands
@@noahvandergoes6170 400mbps here in the heart of California. We invented the ethernet.
@@d.ridley5218 We have 1.5gpbs in almost all major cities in Canada
@@d.ridley5218 Heck I have 1.0gpbs in a small town (population 10,000) about 1.5 hours away from the nearest city.
@@shaunlavoie6183 I live in the heartland of fiber and we don't ever have those speeds...welcome to 1984, no speed for you until you comply with a rethink camp.
I need to get wifi 500 feet away. Can i do that with the eero pro6e it has 6,000 sq ft distanc
For wired backhaul between both mesh devices shall we use crossed-over cable? How about connection between main mesh AP and the router: shall we use crossed-over or straight-through cable?
Im afraid I dont have the answer for that >
Hey there, nice video! I want to build a similar setup here at my place, but I have poor signal at the edges... I have a switch near to my router. Let me know if this setup will work:
Router > cable> Switch
Switch> cable> Main deco #1
Switch> cable> Deco#2
Switch > cable>Deco #3
Switch > cable> deco#4
I couldn't find any video or information to know if it will work....
Thanks!
Hi Marcio, if you hook it all up via the main router (which is not the Deco), the max speed will be limited by the main router unit's max speed.
If you have 4 Deco devices, I recommend using your Deco #1 as your main, hooking unit #2 and #3 to #1, and then unit #4 daisy chaining to either #2 or #3.
Maybe this other method might work too, unit #1 to switch, and then switch to units #2, #3 and #4. Not sure about that though.
Here are the options with deco mesh system.
Router > cable > Switch > Deco #1 & #2 & #3 & #4 to the switch. But, Deco must be set to Access Point mode which means Main Router becomes DHCP server which provides IP to all clients and deco just acts like a wireless bridge which bridges router and wireless clients.
Another option is Router DHCP OFF > Deco #1 Router Mode/ DHCP ON(so that deco works as NAT and provides IP to wireless clients) > Deco #2 > and so on.
Other option is Router DHCP OFF > Deco #1 Router Mode/ DHCP ON > Bridge > other decos to the Bridge.
These are the possible combinations you can use so on access point only one and for router mode two options.
@@mysterychemical thanks!!!
Hi Chester. I currently have 3 S4 deco units and would like to add 3 more. When i add the additional 3, I want to connect them using ethernet backhaul. I am using the Deco's as an AP.
I also plan on installing 8 security cameras being powered by ethernet cables.
My questions are as follows:
- would i need a PoE switch?
- if so, which PoE switch would you recommend?
- how would i connect this setup?
- would cat7 be better than cat 6?
- do you have any other recommendations?
Thank you
Hi ZRK, I am not too sure, perhaps another person could give you a better insight, however any Gigabit PoE device, preferably a TP link unit will work.
Yes Cat 7 is better due to the higher bandwidth.
@@chesterunboxing2716 Thank you
Security cams (depending on the model) can work powered by a PoE switch or by their own power adapter. In my case I have Amcrest cams with cat6 cabling which is good enough and a TP Link switch with 8 PoE ports and 8 non PoE (all gigabit ports). You just have to plug your cameras and that's all.
I’m running my wireless but I get my full speeds which at the moment is 100mb down 10mb up.
That's great for day to day tasks!
is the x20 daul band or triband? thank!
Hi Ryan, the X20 is dual band, even the X60 is dual band also. You'll have to step up to the X90 to get triple band.
Chester, I have the Tp-Link Deco X20 2 units I have one in the office of my house the other in my shop. I need to use Tamota programmed sonoff devices to ONLY the shop. I use homeassistant and sometimes they will connect sometimes not. I am not sure what to do to get them talking. They never talk to homeassistant.
Hi James, I'm afraid I don't have the answer to that, lets wait a while and see if anyone else has a better answer!
What was your speed wired directly to your router/modem compared to the wired backhaul speed?
1Gbps. My place is expensive to upgrade to the 2Gbps speeds given from my ISP at the moment. Will probably upgrade when it's more affordable.
So in both mode will you get same SSID?
Another question, do you need change the setting to "AP Mode" if you change for wireless to wired backhaul?
Yes, mesh routers are designed to appear ass "one big router" to whichever device's connected which is why it can seamlessly connect to different nodes as you walk around the house.
No you dont need to. Leave it as default mesh/ router mode.
@@chesterunboxing2716
Thank you
FYI: You are mistakenly comparing non-dedicate wireless backhaul with dedicate wired backhaul.
Hi, yes it is not a full apples to apples comparison, but it still shows a difference between wireless and wired. Cheers!
Is there any wifi mesh systems that have a dedicated backhaul? I was looking at the tp-link m9.
Usually on the higher end models there will be a dedicated channel reserved for wireless backhaul. However the lower end mesh routers don't have this feature, so there tends to be congestion especially devices that are on the edge of the network.
@@chesterunboxing2716 do you know of what models have it? I seen a comments that the to-link m9 have the dedicated wireless backhaul.
@@jrchavez6167 go for it. M9 plus is ant time better.
Chester, those Deco devices have a 1gbps and a 2.5gbps port. Should you use the 2.5gbps as the backhaul connection and the 1gbps to go to the cable modem?
Hey there, think of the modem connection as the "parent" while the backhaul is the "kids"
If the parent does not receive enough food, the kids wont have more food than the parents! (humanitarian issues aside)
So even if the backhaul is 2.5G, it wont be of much use if the modem is only 1G. That said, it's still better than both 1 and 1.
OMG you are so cute.
Can all mesh nodes be wired together as star network?
I believe you can hook up multiple TP Link mesh routers to form a single home network.
I know ASUS can, but I'm not too sure for TP Link if it supports across models.
Wish you would have shown how to connect them.
Hi Henry, the connection is as follows:
From modem to main router unit #1.
Router #1 connects to router unit #2 using an ethernet cable.
You can try it out yourself too!
@@chesterunboxing2716 Yes, but which input / output on which router?
Is it direct? Or can use my coax MoCa?
The TP Link X20 router I'm using has only 2 Ethernet ports. Any port is fine.
Can I use Powerline for the purpose of "Backhauling", I have some Asus Adapters I used a few years ago, but have since initiated "AiMesh" but would find these useful for "Backhauling" any thoughts? Safe? Effective?
In ASUS models, by using AiMesh you can hook up any ASUS AiMesh compatible routers via wired backhaul.
But performance may vary due to the many different routers/ powerlines used.
As long as the network is within your home, and the wifi is configured, it should be safe. No harm trying.
I amd using a poweline + backhaul combo in one corner of my place and it worked pretty well. San Diego had really crappy ISP that are so expensive. I paid 80 bucks amonth for 300 Mbps cable connection(only 12 Mbps upload). Anyway, I have a TP-Link Av2000 powerline adapter which can dliver about 80% of my highest badwidth at around 240 Mbps. I connect a deco mesh node at the end of poweline adapter and the wireless clients connecting to this backhauled node can also get about 240 Mbps speed. Had to take this chance to diss the San Diego ISP's. My next cheaper alternative is ATT which is 55 bucks a month for 50 Mbps speed. San Diego Internet so bad.
which mesh router set did you try with? Netgear Orbi mesh doesn't have wired input ports on satellites.
TP Link Deco X20 Mesh set, as mentioned at the 1min mark
@@cloudelamerz Thanks :)
I just looked it up ... the x20 is a daul band. This is why you loose so much over wireless. With Triband mesh routers like the x90 you wouldn't notice any difference between wired/wireless because the additional 5ghz band acts as a dedicated back haul. but itll cost ya $$$ lol
That's correct! The X20 gives you an affordable entry point to WiFi 6.
Can you wire all mesh nodes to the Main router?
If you're using more than 1 node, you have to daisy chain them as the routers have only 2 LAN ports, meaning your main router needs to use 1 for WAN, and 1 to connect to a node.
5ms ping? Wtf.. I've never had below like 30ish.ever.
I once had the experience of using 0ms and played a game online, was a very smooth experience
Hi there. I have 3units of Deco M9 Plus. Right now the main node is connected thru the AC1200 router from unifi.
I was wondering, if i take out the router, connect the modem directly to the M9 Plus + 8port switch, will there be any improvements on speed?
Yes I believe it will be better as the M9 Plus is rated for AC2200.
However, if your M9 units are connected via this X20, thats AX1200, not AC1200, then the current setup will still be better.
@@chesterunboxing2716 hi thanx for replying.
However, i didnt understand this part
“However, if your m9 units are connected via this x20, thats ax1200, notac1200, then the current setup will still be better”
I lost u there
Just to double check, your main router, is it rated for AC1200 or AX1200?
If its AC1200, using the M9 Plus units will be faster, i.e. modem connects to M9 Plus.
If its AX1200, your original setup will be faster.
@@chesterunboxing2716 great! Thanx for the input!
Yup my main router currently AC1200😅
So now my plan is, connecting the M9 Plus directly to the modem, then connecting the M9 Plus to the AC1200 router(using AC1200 router as switch)
Think its ok?
Yep it should be fine, as long as the M9 Plus is being used for the main broadcasting work.
Hi,so u r saying if i am using a mesh wifi router wirelessly connected to the main router and i use an ethernet cable connect to the mesh wifi router,it will be slower than connect the ethernet cable directly to the main router?
Yes, as you are still connected wirelessly to the router.
Wired is still the fastest.
However, your method is still faster than connecting wirelessly but no ethernet cable connected between the mesh routers.
@@chesterunboxing2716 well said...thanks a lot
Wired back haul in AP mode slaughters WiFi extending garbage.
omg wired is faster then wireless, what is discover...
imagine you could even connect your pc directly with a wire to your router !!