MN v. Derek Chauvin Trial Day 13 - David Fowler - Ret Forensic Pathologist
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2021
- Fired Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, 44, stands trial in the alleged murder of George Floyd, 46. As seen on the footage, the defendant kneeled on the victim’s neck for minutes until after the man became unresponsive during an arrest over an alleged counterfeit $20 bill on May 25, 2020. Jurors must determine under the law if Floyd died because of Chauvin’s actions, or if it was really something else. The medical examiner noted that he also had arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease, and also fentanyl, and evidence of recent meth use.
Both sides jockeyed over evidence amid jury selection. Judge Peter Cahill ruled jurors can hear evidence Chauvin once told another officer in a separate arrest to apply a Hobble restraint-a kind of a restraining belt used by law enforcement-in a “hog-tie” position although a woman allegedly did not put up much resistance. The state can also show evidence that the defendant knew how it was dangerous to kneel on the neck of the prone Floyd.
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Blackwell is an excellent attorney
And, he's a pro bono! Blackwell, is not making any money on Floyd's case. That says a lot! What an amazing man he is!
@@di_anahdz496 that’s interesting. I assumed he was with the state attorney’s office and salaried. He is quite amazing to watch.
@@di_anahdz496 I didn’t know he was pro bono..I thought he did excellent today! He is a great attorney.
@@unityaboriginelove6595 🤣🤣🤣
The prosecution absolutely destroyed this witness.
This medical examiner did not do a good job of not looking biased. When defense questioned him he looked comfortable, but when prosecution questioned him he looked very uncomfortable.
This literally happend with all of them expert witnesses of prosecution. If anything this Expert witness was the most consisent out of all of them.
@@lt32p1 No he wasnt. You sound biased.
Day 13 and Chaurvin still hasn’t finished writing that shopping list!
I hope he has put loads of hunny buns on that list .
I’ve been a bad boy, I’ve been a bad boy
His list what he need to take in which is 0
Or his memoirs maybe 🤷🏼♂️😂
Lmfaooooo not shopping list!!
I love the way this attorney smirk when he knows he catching him up in lies lol
The defense got absolutely destroyed today!
I've been watching daily from the UK... well into my resting time! Today was a good day in court!
Absolutely
@@melpenny3239 same , watching from the Caribbean!
@@unityaboriginelove6595 You're in for a rude awakening.
@@MrRight-ef5rx They really are 🤣
I didn’t know Freddy Kruger was taking the stand....
🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣 omg he does look like him 😭
Once Dr. Tobin came thru, it was a wrap!
Blackwell "Do you know if the car was even on?"
That one question destroyed two hours of testimony by the witness. 😅
Not quite. He stated that the vehicle emissions was only a possible contributing factor.
@@lowfrequency1180 except no carbon monoxide was found in George Floyd's system, he wasn't even tested for carbon monoxide poisoning
@@ivanperez5354 precisely, Floyd was not tested. For this reason, he couldn’t say one way or the other. Simply, it could be reasonable to speculate, due to Floyd’s proximity to the exhaust, that it might have played a role.
@@lowfrequency1180 Not quite, you're literally trying to justify this witness's pathetic attempt at trying to insult every sane person's intelligence.
No it didn't. It calls for some doubt. All the defense has to do is show reasonable doubt. Nobody on either side proved whether the car was on or off, that's where doubt comes into play.
Notice his eyes, at times nearly closed, a sign of a liar.
Apartheid in court
Exactly what I thought as a South African watching this man Testify as an expert witness. Or should I say expert WHITENESS. Dissapointed to say the least. Just remember historically when this man thrived and how his privilege during Apartheid lead him to this exact moment of his life. Coincidence? I think not.
Water dripping from exhaust also happens after the car is turned off.
Now he`s fidgeting, another sign of being found out.
Ok, Mr. Armchair Psychologist.
Prosecution attorney Blackwell comes out swinging, immediately challenges defense expert's thoroughness and veracity. A much different approach than defense attorney Nelson took with any prosecution expert.
Yes he did but softened as he went along.
27:42 Doc looks so defeated.
“So i testified...”
“JUST ANSWER YES OR NO”
Lol
Do people who are blown to bits in a bomb explosion also die from fatal arrhythmia? Just wondering.
Seems like he’s a expert witness for whoever pays for it!!! I’d say the jury should be able too figure this Dr out...
I think there's a case to be made for reform here. Instead of either side paying their expert, perhaps there should be a pool of experts who may be allocated to either side.
As opposed to dr. Tobin who claims smoking isn't unhealthy, or 75% to 90% vein blockage doesn't complicate your health either? Or brain waves are faster than the speed of light?
Linda, have you heard about him in another case where the police was freed after killing someone else? Because of his report that freed the police I think he is trying to do the same here. No need for bias, just be honest Dr.
@@lt32p1 your mis-informed. Dr Tobin stated that 90% of smokers don't see any major effects of smoking. IE: cancer or COPD. You should get your ears checked
That alleged Dr is a bare faced liar 🤥
He made it worse for Nelson 🤦🏼♀️ he should just throw in the towel now and call it quits
Can we publish what Chauvin is writing ✍️, Your honor?? Received??
I'd probably pay to see it 😅🤣
27:40. Why is it so hard for a so called expert to tell the truth.
This is the most polite inept Defense witness I've every heard. In other news, Jerry Blackwell is on fire with his medical knowledge. Wow!
He and his team do their homework! Does Nelson have much help?
@@lady2550 Yup. The prosecution went up one side and down the other in exposing him. Inept: Not suitable to the time, place, or occasion : inappropriate often to an absurd degree
@@cannonball8885 look up the spelling and meaning of inept. but you may be too inept to do so = troll. Bye now
You are correct. This defense witness opined with the defense but agreed with true prosecution lol
@@EricaL2024 a team of a dozen lawyers, I heard
If the car engine was on why did it not affect Chauvin, he too was in close proximity to the exhaust?
He had stated that in the test done in Poland the parts per million diminished significantly with distance from the exhaust.
Chauvin was at least 2 1/2 feet above Floyd, thereby not in close proximity to the exhaust pipe, which the doctor explained, if you were listening.
@@sydludwig1826 An engine revving would force the exhaust initially horizontally from the vehicle, on tick over the exhaust almost immediately rises, therefore Chauvin would be breathing it in.
@@sydludwig1826 Well said
@@yapyapdotcom7774 not necessarily in the same manner as Floyd
Why don’t they experiment and try the restraint on themselves that George was subjected to. I wonder if they would argue about the semantics over positioning at the point their oxygen supply is cut off. Somehow I can’t see that experiment happening.
Good on you prosecution! The jury should be able to see what happened from all the evidence presented. They are smart enough to come to the conclusion that although there could have been contributing factors the knee and weight and Derek Chauvin was what ended his life. No “reasonable doubt.”
@@lady2550 That’s like saying- I got in a fatal car accident & died. Had I stayed home I’d be alive. JF “resisting” does not justify his death.
@@Beth-ty8hn Exactly.
@@Beth-ty8hn don't bother with Lady2550, she is completely bias and misinformed.
@@Beth-ty8hn 💯
@@lady2550 do you realize how ignorant you sound with every comment you make on many threads. You are so full of hate. Stop watching. Take a step back and fix yourself first before judging another human being.
So....he died of a sudden cardiac arrythmia, but the doctor who says so can't say when it occurs in the video. Then some time later that same doctor changes his mind and says sudden cardiac arrest, but still can't point to the moment it happens. Then again, that same doctor talks about carbon monoxide being the culprit, while on the other side of his mouth saying it was from a sudden arrhythmia. Finally that same doctor doesn't take into account that the officers (if carbon monoxide was the culprit) are still the ones who forced Floyd to be near the exhaust pipe and did not try to alleviate his respiratory distress symptoms, which thereby makes carbon monoxide still not a defense. This is what happens when you try to defend the indefensible.
This is the worst medical Dr I have ever seen or heard.He has hatrage in his eyes as well, Thanks to Blackwell, he crushed all his lies
@@veezienhamoruhwande99 🤣
I bet this doctor was so mad lol 😡😡😡😡
If all doctors were like Dr Fowler...honestly, the medical fraternity would be a joke
A pathological liar 🤥 😊
Pleased to meet you.
When is the jury going to render their verdict.this circus act has gone on long enough.
Until after the defense rests thier flimsy weak case, Jury deliberates after. It'll be awhile before they make thier decision
The judge estimated the defense will rest Thursday. He doesn’t want closing arguments on Friday because the jury will be sequestered once they enter deliberations so Closing arguments will likely come on Monday morning.
@@melanieboyle606 Thank you for the information!!
I think they’re expected to have a verdict sometime next week
@@sheisaclassic let's hope so
Can't believe this! Blackwell took out Knight's!! For all non-pathologists out there, Knight is one of the best books to read (definitely one of my favourites).
What is it with the moments of silence?
Side bars
great cross
😂
Question: individual questioning to pathologist. Is there for own merit or just as result of affirmative action's policy just saying, just in case of biased questioning.
Since when is defendant allowed to be present at a sidebar?
That's normal. Watch the Jimmie Rodgers trial; he looked like a little kid trying to act tough by hanging out with the older kids.
best questioning from the prosecution so far. i like how the camera director will show the defendant table each time the witness answers unfavorably to the defense. heh
If you think Blackwell did well, you are seriously delusional.
@@MrRight-ef5rx Yep... how anyone can see Blackwell's behavior and questioning as superb is beyond me
@Sean Hollibaugh If you believe that sham trial was legit there's no hope for you
@Sean Hollibaugh It was easy for the prosecution. They got to to:
• pick the jury
• ensure no transcripts of side bars were recorded (unheard of)
• Morries Hall didn't testify
• Blackwell got away with prosecutorial misconduct
• $27M settlement
• Failure to disclose all medical evidence
• They got away with flooding the defense with 50,000 discovery items DURING the trial
• Witness intimidation and threats from the mob
Yeah, slam dunk for them for all the wrong reasons.
@Sean Hollibaugh
Chauvin was bad cop but saying the video itself proved he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt of killing Floyd is that of a simpleton. There was plenty of reasonable doubt in this case.
• Lethal dosage of Fentany (which suppresses respirations)
• Foaming at the mouth (classic symptom if opiate OD)
• Posterior nose bleed (a sign of high bP, which we know happens when he ODs based on med records from his previous OD)
• knee not on his neck (even the prosecution had to walk that back when it was disproven)
• two of his three major arteries had major blockages
• Prone position, knee on upper back permitted on suspects who resist arrest
• Symptoms of excited delirium, a condition for which the prone position is recommended
• He was hospitalized for an opiate OD two months earlier (1 in 20 people hospitalized opiate ODs die within one year)
• The symptoms he was complaining about were exactly the same as the ones his GF described when he OD'd two months' earlier
Combine that with the prosecutorial misconduct and the ends don't justify the means.
I think the judge like the state lol and is it me or his the doctor crying
Yes he looked like he was going to at one time!
He got purple
Dr Fowler, poor eye contact and waffling, the sign of dishonesty....
I don't like the fact that Blackwell uses the phrase, "what's the punchline." That usually reserved for comedy. It doesn't seem appropriate.
Lighten up!
Totally destroyed his credibility!
Finally some sound science Instead of emotionalism
Did u make that word up?
Only science that agrees with his biased opinion
Yes, his opinion was peer reviewed (the gold standard) unlike Tobin's
Why are there only one or two witnesses per day during the defenses case? I thought they needed to have witnesses lined up for the entire day?
A day has only so many hours. Fowler alone testified for 4,5 hours on day 13 and they had motion for acquittal and Hall's 5th amendment in the morning.
It would be nice to see Chauvin show even a tiny bit of remorse or some type of compassion for the loss of life just in general instead of continuously writing ✍. I yet to see, sadly, any type of emotion from him throughout this entire trial. He & his recent ex wife has 9 counts of tax evasion prior to this trial, 19 complaints, and sandwiched a man for 9 minutes. My family and friends in Law Enforcement do not have any. They do protect and serve. Officers like Chauvin are ruining it for the good guy's that put their lives on the line.
I totally agree with you. A man is dead and he doesn’t look like he has any remorse for his part in the death. The police in the USA have a dangerous job to do because there are too many guns in the wrongs hands. Cops should be admired and thanked for their service but the bad ones like chauvin are making the job a thankless one. Shame on you chauvin
The arrogance right?
I can’t understand why he even thinks it’s ok to show his face.
Chauvin is getting balder every day lol
Now it’s co2 poisoning or pills in his mouth or obesity? Lol. 👌 ok then. Guessing much.
Er, I think you mean carbon monoxide (CO). Defence seems to be reaching for any possible explanation for Floyd's death. They haven't mentioned the "hostile" crowd lately. That 9 year old was terrifying!
Clutching at straws now scrapping the barrel I’m really supprised the lack of from the defence
@@geoffpoole483 woops ur right.
@@caroleallen888 defense attorney doesn’t have much that’s why. He’s doing everything he can I suppose.
@@geoffpoole483 no kidding.
58:00 oof, even he thinks they should have given George immediate medical attention.
43:44 (saving the time to watch the rest )
Why hasn’t Dr Baden testified? He had a lot of opinions for the media
Blackwell is being a bit hostile toward Fowler.
That's how the Prosecution is supposed to be
Rightfully so, this witness is very close to being caught being a liar. IMO
Fowler deserves it he's lying and making crap up in his own head
Fowler's a wanker.
Mr Blackwell is doing his job and a damned good one at that!
It's not a damage is just that is not working properly, but usually when something is not working properly you'll always find damages especially when that thing has been working for years. Where did this liar got is degree
@1:01:21 this is medical gobbledegook!!
Charge chauvin under title 18 USC section 241 conspiracy against rights and title 18 USC section 242 deprivation of rights under color of law and title 5 USC sections 3331,3333,7311 as well.
Makes total sense to me 🤔
Hahaha Hahaha
Eric Nelson picked the wrong expert to testify for his client's defense!
Agree. Not only that, Fowler's got an interesting lawsuit hanging over him.
@@geoffpoole483 Yes! That's one of the things that led me to my conclusion. This whole exhaust thing has been used by him before. How could the defense team not know about this in advance? All we had to do was Google his name!
@@michelelong3205 they knew they counting on the jury not knowing
@1:01:34 please don't ask me anymore questions, pleaaasee. Then, Blackwell goes, I'd like to ask you several questions... lol.
A number of anomalies were exposed by the prosecution.
Name them, I would love to hear it.
Why did i think the title said rat
Expert witness 🤣😂🤣😂what did he witness nothing.
My point exactly. He is retired ffs
Well, if you’re going to make that argument, then all the other expert testimony, including the prosecutors, is irrelevant.
Dr Fowler? Dr Fowler? Is he sleeping.
Feed this clown to the lions....paid liar...!...go Jerry
This guy doesn’t seem to know much. Bringing up co2 is kind of ridiculous seeking as how it wasn’t Floyds issue.
It’s doubt because the M.E. never considered or tested for it. That’s all defense has to do is produce reasonable doubt.
@@lisadarwin4311 yeah. Emphasis on "reasonable" doubt.. this is airy fairy hypothetical what ifs and could be's.. they're throwing 2 or 3 things at the wall and are hoping something sticks.
Forensics pathologist my a$$, was he chewing? idk
It's fair to say the prosecutors have calmly and methodically dismantled the testimonies of the past two "expert" witnesses, walked a mud hole in them, and walked it dry. This dude, in particular, looks like a movie villain with his low trust face and pissy facial expressions.
I can't believe the defence asked for chauvin to be acquitted lol .
It happens in every trial. Usually gets denied, but pretty standard.
That's pretty standard....
David Fowler has just hung the defence
It was a piece of gum in his mouth
🤣
Most drug addicts chew on fentynal patches...
Just trying to put reasonable doubt in jurors' minds...
You mean the piece of gum that ended up in the floor of the patrol car when GF was resisting?
@@michelelong3205 yeah that piece of gum.
Chauvin is guilty
Right. Chauvin certainly waited the whole shift to murder a random guy in front of a crowd in broad daylight using a non-lethal technique while calling Floyd an ambulance minutes earlier. Absolutely.
There was an occasion when Chauvin lifted his foot thereby adding extra weight and pressure on Floyd`s neck.
Pub med search 😂😂 is a google search for drs. .. yeah I search it all the time right after I leave web med OMG
😂🤣it’s seriously laughable
Does not understand English too, but he can read. Lol
You’re not very bright are you
Chauvin will be acquitted
Don't know if that will happen at all.
Nope.
If he is .. all citizens should be scared.
@Ayjayalleyway please stop with your most ignorant posts.🙄🙄
He will never be acquitted. Your best bet is a hung jury
Terrible cross examination. This witness was walking all over this attorney who should have been moving to strike the portions of the answers beyond a Yes or No. Then the judge would have started to directly admonish the witness. Besides allowing the witness to give long answers, this prosecutor’s exam is boring and stiff, which makes it seem like he doesn’t have a total grasp of the medical issues related to this witness. Unfortunately, I think the defense has raised reasonable doubt (certainly for at least one juror, which means a hung jury.)
Huh??? Nah. I don’t think so but that’s ur opinion I guess.
@@georgieargie8217 Nope. That’s my legal opinion. But I certainly will be disappointed if jury hangs or he’s found not guilty.
@@georgieargie8217 I think the best case the prosecution has is for failure to render aid for which Chauvin could be found guilty of one of the counts.
@Barbara Kvistad Please shut up you don't have a clue at all🤭🤭🤭 Go sit way in the back and keep quit. Come back when this cop killer goes to prison!!!
@@Annie-so3cb 😂🤣😂 Clearly, you can’t deal with options differing from yours. That’s your problem not mine and I will not be canceled by your vitriol.
Let the burning and looting begin.
No one cares!lol.
Why are u here then
No one cares about what? That a man died?
Then just go away.
Ghoul
Why can't Dr. Fowler just say YES or NO. The fact that he has to embellish every answer is a red flag he's not being truthful.
Prosicuition had a fair few witnesses like that
@@TheJbsportstech exactly right and of course nothing was said then. If it’s on the prosecution side then they are trying to explain the truth if it’s defense well they are embellishing every answer. Always a double standard
It's strange everytime he's supposed to say yes or no he rambles on then when cut of can't remember the question