I think repros are good, especially for those of us that want a physical version of a game that we know that we can't afford. Also, I like them for games that never came out here in my country and fan translations.
Although , i know faker games happen , i also must say that some people won't be able to experience a lot of older games unless more companies begin to do this. So i firmly endorse repros and actually buy them if they are cheaper. All in all I'm ok as long as the seller lists it as a repro-cart on the back. Not in the label though lol not mah artwork!
@@DanielBrown-nb9zz yeah I think something you should do is is when you buy a repro get any random Super Nintendo cartridge that you don’t care about and just switch out the back or you can use the shell and insert the repro in there.
You're not doing the original creators of the game (ie. Nintendo and Enix) if you buy a legit version for $200. 100% of those proceeds go to the reseller. Fine if you're only collecting originals, but if you just wanna play it on physical hardware, I'm cool with it.
John Riggs: RIGG'd Games true. I personally don't like repros unless they are of hacks fangames, and stuff of that nature. English patches are cool too. That's why I like your channel
100% agree. If I could buy some of those old games new at reasonable prices in physical form straight from the devs I would do that. It's cool to have a cheap option for those $200 games that won't break the bank so I can focus on the stuff I really want and buy current stuff as well that will help devs.
Ding. The ONLY time repro carts are bad is when people try to pass them off as original and sell them at absurd prices, or when they make repros by cannibalizing other legit games, like what we see with Batman: Return of the Joker being used for Mr. Gimmick repos.
Same! Pretty happy to find out these exist. It’s so nice to have an option to get these old games without having to sell an arm and a leg for them. It doesn’t surprise me that people are miffed about these, probably the same people that are against emulation. I really don’t understand their logic. “Oh you’re stealing from the developers!”. Here’s the thing though, no matter how you obtain these games, emulating, buying reproduction carts, or building them second hand from game stores, in the end the devs get nothing. If anything by their logic, wouldn’t it be much worse to buy an lusciously overpriced old game, since someone is making a massive profit and the devs get none of it
@@postindierock5063I'm already using cheaper clone consoles anyways, so so be it... Replacing a Retron 3 system is still less expensive than what many people are charging for these games lately...
Reproductions are fantastic, I think they're a huge asset to retro gaming. I was able to play friggin Alien Soldier, Musha, Hagane, Wild Guns on OG hardware thanks to repros and they're some of the very best 16-bit games imo, had a kickass time with them. AS wasn't released in the states and Musha/Hagane etc cost an arm and a leg, as long you're buying from a genuine seller, repros are a blessing to the hobby.
My grandfather had a joke about owning Tecumseh's tomahawk he'd say "of course, it's had 3 new blades and 2 new handles since then". Retro gaming (Right now) reminds of that.
Love Repros! I’m finally able to play Hagane, Metal Warriors, Ninja Warriors, and Secret of Mana without spending over 100 dollars! But yeah, just remember not to pass them off as the real thing.
I'm concerned less with reproduction carts... What I *REALLY* want is for someone to make some good reproduction SEGA cases- Master System/Genesis(clear enveloped black plastic), SEGA CD/Saturn(legit clear hard plastic). Right *there*- is some mad money to be made by someone.
What I do is buy common sports titles for a $1 a piece at my local retro store, print out my desired Genesis cover and use the case that came with the sports game.
Yeah, I kinda do the same. But as a collector purist, that makes me feel bad that I am taking that low value sports title off the market (which someone might be looking for) just so I can replace a cracked/worn case. I've seen companies go into making replacement cases for other market fields, so I always hoped that some company would discover that game cases was an open market to make good profit. Everyone would win.
Actually a user by the name of ShadowFox @ thecoverproject.com has a site called customgamecases.com where he sells reproduction cases (no artwork) for NES, SNES, N64, Genesis (these even have the retail hanger on top), GBA, DS, PSP, and he is currently in the early process of designing and manufacturing Sega Saturn style long-box style jewel cases. Might be of interest for some of you guys.
Thanks SZU gaming. Yeah, I had read about *thecoverproject* and *customgamecases* a while back, but kinda dismissed them because at the time they didn't apply to what I wanted-- the more difficult Genesis hardcases, and the (never happening) SEGA-CD/Saturn jewel cases. But now that you say they might venture into finding a way of making the SEGA longbox jewel cases, I'm going to have to check back with them. Thanks, again! :-D
One could also say the same about the used game market (both current and retro) where a publisher/developer does not see a dime beyond the initial sale. The only difference between a downloaded rom, a repro cart or a used game is that one of the three is 'morally right'. From a pure business perspective all three are one and the same.
SZU Gaming i have no moral dilemma in either of those 3. like you said the developer doesnt see a dime past the initial sale, so how is it stealing? just because there is a law against something doesnt necessarily mean that its morally wrong. ie jaywalking or extortion. wait, extortion is wrong. and jaywalking endangers drivers. and the virtual console exists. 🤔
I’m in a real big mood to play Final Fantasy 3/VI on my Snes and I see Repos not even $15, original cart for $20 or translated updates for $70 but I wasn’t sure how to feel about Repos, glad you had an opinion to share!
I love repro boxes! My whole N64 and genesis collections are housed in repros now. I like that I can buy plastic cases for games that came in cardboard. I wouldn't call myself a collector. I fit in the group you classified as people who just want to play the games, so i prefer an inexpensive repro, digital, or multicart over some out of print expensive original. Its cool to own something rare and valuable, but the people getting upset about repros are the ones who seem to be looking for self worth and confidence from their collection, which is a whole nother topic.
I have most of the very expensive SNES cart repros and they were all like 9 bucks a piece. I understand why some people would hate but i hate spending hundreds of dollars on a single cart! ;)
Bisskits Yup! they run fine. But some repros have a tight fit. I usually buy repros made with higher quality materials or original repurposed materials.
Legend of Crews i have about 80 percent of the usa snes releases emulated on my original modded xbox only paid a mate $20 to install everything and clean it out haha
A friend of mine gave me a modded xbox with nes,snes,genesis,neo geo other emulators too much stuff i havent even looked at all of it. All i had to do was come move a 30 inch CRT and the xbox out of his house.
@@The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane This is a logically thought process that I can slightly agree with but we have such a collectible mindset in the market that it's not as easy as saying they are older games they should cost less. The original company put out only so many carts back in the day it was still new. They REFUSE to put out more carts, but will put out downloadable versions on the virtual console for some games and some systems. Therefore when buying a used game, say for SNES, you are buying something that isn't made anymore and the market has a mindset that rarity increases the value no matter what. Now I for one am a fan of emulation in the fact that I can play and enjoy the games I use to own and sold, use to rent but never got to own, and games I have never even heard of or had the chance to play/buy back in my youth. Now we also have the same issue with all other markets. Take the Car market for instance, a 1970 mustang by definition of age of materials and technology used in it should be a relatively cheap car, probably about 500-1500 depending on condition as you're looking at least to the value of the scrap metal you can haul it off for. However in many different conditions this car can still go as high as 30,000 or more depending on mileage on the engine, part numbers matching all original parts, and place you are selling it at. For the same price you can buy a brand new vehicle for, you can own a car from 1970 that is used, it has been maintained well but has been driven around for X amount of miles and been exposed to all the weather over that full nearly 50 years. The term "classic" being attached to something seems to instantly trigger a meaningful jump in it's worth. A Classic Honda Civic from say 1985 could fetch nearly 10k or more in good condition, simply cause it's considered a "classic". Now when people talk about "Collecting Games" I find that you are basically buying a game and meaning to not play it to keep it in pristine condition in order to sell it again at a later date when the value has increased. Now the rest of the collectors also fall into sub categories of collectors who enjoy games and collectors who enjoy the market of games, as well as the more snooty type of collector who only wants to show off their collection of games. I personally have no problem with the first cause they play the games and find the joy they were intended for. The rest are all about the money and "prestige" of it all and they are why the market is a high as it is in many cases.
As almost everyone in the comments are saying, I am 100% fine with repros, as long as they are A. Labeled as a repro and not passed off as legit B. Function as intended And C. aren't over priced or priced higher than a legit copy They get an A in my book
One thing to consider if you buy repro. You get a brand new cartridge, with modern components. Some repro copies use flash chips instead of CMOS like the originals.
I like the Reproduction idea as it's helpful in a few areas: 1: no permanent black sharpie on the case with someone's name 2: should be with a new battery or other way to save so not worried about a 20+ year old battery dying and erasing your save 3: Cover sticker SHOULD be nice and new but can be half assed and not really authentic image 4: better pricing for just the game as opposed to a collector's price for something you want to play and not just put on the shelf to look at and then sell at a later date for more than you spent 5: access to games we never got over here in the US and missed out on the original story and look. 6: getting the feel of playing the game off the cartridge and system like the original was designed for and not just emulated on the PC Now I do love gaming and I'm very fond of retro games that I played growing up. There are hundreds I haven't played and would like the chance to play. However there is a bit of a difference in playing on PC via emulation and playing on the console. Much like there's a difference in holding the book or manga in your hand and reading it, or looking at the screen and reading a digital copy of it. Not to mention just the simple fact that retro gaming has been a growing trend and the current console gaming companies have yet to do anything besides put out the "Classic" mini versions of their old consoles with only a handful of games loaded on them, which is just someone making an emulator system with pre-loaded games on it's HDD and selling it under licensed trademark. A reproduction cart can be a marketing switch that if the official companies picked up on and put out their own reproductions would mean a full revival of retro gaming instead of current fight between collectors and yard sales that the current market is represented by.
So, as long as a Repro has SOME minor change from a real cart, I'm fine with it. And when it comes to repros of prototype games, betas, and rom hacks, go ahead and do whatever. But here's a thing to consider. Websites that sell reproductions of rom hacks. It's not really as big of a market compared to repros of real games that people don't wanna spend $50+ on. But it's a thing. There used to be a website/company called Timewalk games. They made super high quality products. Their major focal point was selling reproduction carts of rom hacks (usually complete with custom made boxes, manuals, and sometimes even a small mini poster and map). Sounds great, right? Yeah. Except they didn't always get permission from a hack creator before selling it. I remember there was this big deal one time because they were selling a hack (I think it was of Punch Out on NES?), and they didn't get permission from the guy that made it. They did at least give the guy credit on the store page. Then, supposedly, when he asked them to take it down, they straight up erased his credit from the store page, and kept selling it anyway. Like, what kinda bullshit is that? And naturally, it's a hack of a Nintendo game, it's not like the hack-creator could take 'em to court over it or anything. (There was another issue of Timewalk stealing art off of Deviantart for their manuals too. I was actually the one that informed an artist on DA about it. I asked him if he knew Timewalk was using his art, and his answer? "No, I'll have to look into it." Timewalk closed pretty soon after. Gotta wonder if that had anything to do with it...)
I agree with you. To add on the putting reproduction on the label, I like the use of colored carts rather than gray, making it even easier to show that it isn't original.
I bought a few good repros from Etsy, I reckon they're great. Sick of people charging sky high prices for some games that are very easy to find. As long as the seller states they're repro then i don't see an issue.
I think it's fine as long as the game either never released, either in one region or at all, or if the game is super rare and expensive. Otherwise, there's really no point.
I like that repros exist to allow us access to both incredibly rare/sought after titles or (like you mentioned) unreleased/translated titles that can be played on your region's hardware. I picked up a repro cart of Mega Man - the Wily Wars for my Genesis a few years back, and I love having the option to play Mega Man games on my original hardware without having to pay the $500-ish dollars or whatever it costs for both a PAL cart and the stuff needed to run a PAL Mega Drive on my TV.
i dont mind reproduction cartridges SO LONG AS THE SELLER LABELS THEM AS SUCH! i like getting original hardware and ive been burned by reproduction cartridges atleast 4 times, but i did intentionally buy 2 reproduction cartridges.
I had a reproduction cartridge made for my nephews 6th birthday of the unreleased Thomas the tank engine on nes my nephew loves the nes cool uncle points right here
I kind of wish you covered a little bit more of the risks of repros. You know, like how some games put in a bunch of stuff to screw with the game if it is a repro. Like making the game way too difficult, making things incompletable, or just straight up not working at all. There is a factor of this in earthbound, which is why it can't really be reproduced. If you try playing on a reproduction cartridge, the game will spawn in a TON of more enemies, making traversing a lot more difficult, hindering gameplay and overall ruining the experience of the game. There's a similar thing with Megaman X. And as far as I know, there isn't really something that just tells you "This game does this if it's being played via reproduction" which is why I tend to avoid reproduction carts. They can be good for games that are absurdly priced, but only as long as they play exactly 1 to 1 to the original. Unless it's modded version of a game that fixes or adds something (translations, more stuff, etc.)
In one of my gaming cabinets I have a mk1 mega drive with a 196 in 1 multicart sticking out of it. The shelf underneath has a super Nintendo with a 70 in 1 multicart (with battery backup) I'm fine with this, it allows me to play a range of games at a fraction of the cost on these two systems.
Repros and Roms are good because they keep the prices of original carts and virtual console like services under control. We all know that retro prices need all the control it could get. Imagine if going through resellers was the only way to play retro games...
Not all reproduction carts are made in China. Some are made with American and Canadian parts. They might cost more but remember when you buy something that's cheap, it's inexpensive too.
I just bought Dracula X and Chrono trigger repro's on AliExpress, these games are way to expensive to get the real thing so the repro option is great for people who just want to have a copy in their collection to play.
Good discussion Shawn. I don't have any repros - but I also don't have any problems with them, as long as the vendors are truthful and the product is clearly labeled, as you said. Given the very high prices of some games, repros can be a viable and practical way to experience those games.
I think it's great for the gamming community bcuz there cheaply priced & they play well also if the original is too expensive & hard 2 find repros r a excellent only option! As long as it's labeled repro out of respect
For me repros are good, for the reason that I can get them, and I don't have to break my bank, but yes buying a repro game and then selling it for the price of the original would be a $$hit move.
I have no problem with repros as long as they are sold as such, but I do like to get original games generally because you won’t have to worry about time bombs or anything else regarding game glitches, etc. they just tend to work better which makes sense
I have a repro Little Samson. Obviously I'm not going to spend $1k on a game and I want to play it. I don't have an NES usb controller to play for emulation so I went to aliexpress. I'm fine with repros.
I've been wanting to play Chrono Trigger since I bought my snes but even after saving up some money I just can't justify paying over $100 for a single game, not that it isn't bad to do so, I just can't justify it. So I'm strongly considering buying a reproduction copy. I just want it to be the same quality GAME PLAY WISE as the original. I never got to play chrono trigger and I don't want my first time playing it to be ruined by issues someone who played the original when it first came out wouldn't be plagued with. Reproductions aren't badly translated fan made copies of games are they? Thats the impression I get when someone says reproduction.
I believe that the problem is even deeper. There are hundreds of people who dont even know what repros are - This , believe or not, also include some people selling. Repros that dont make obvious that they are repros, are a pool of problem just waiting to splash and wet hundreds of buyers and even some unaware sellers. And lets not forget the malicious ones too. For all those reasons, Im deeply against the making of repros of the 4th type you commented.
I have an older, gray 150-in-1 NES cartridge, but there's not really 150 games on it. It's a select number of NES and Famicom games split into several selectable levels. Like, instead of each selection being a different game, it's one of the same games, but a different level. Which I find stupid. Reproductions of games never released in the US are the best ones.
I dislike the sellers who sell fan translations and hacks. I have BS Zelda and in the option menu it says to not buy it reproduced. Violating a mega corporation's copyright is one thing, but exploiting fans for money is another. I bought the Sailor Moon RPG on SNES and it really doesn't run right because the fans who made the translation did not know what they were doing with the font choice and it wont show up on screen right on a 'real' SNES. Also, totally right about labeling things as Repro's. I saw a Genesis Sailor Moon repro at MAGFest and was confused at first and had to ask what it was. Turns out that repro carts were all that they had.
I have a simple rule for repro carts, it has to have never existed. Zelda Outlands, something in english that was never released, all perfectly fine. The one exception is the 151 in 1 cart in my Neo Geo MVS Arcade. Those games really exists but the savings and convenience was way too much for me to ignore.
I agree. I don't really care about reproduction carts as long as they are clearly marked and clearly sold as repros. That said, I personally would much rather put any money I would spend on repros towards an authentic cartridge, but as far as what others do, I couldn't care less.
While I could see why people would be against them...I believe For super expensive games like Pocky and Rocky, or games that never came out in America, or at all, (Starfox 2) I think repros are godsend.
Repro carts work really well for stuff like Secret of Mana 2 and Bahamut Lagoon, games that we got fucked out of here in the States. Why does Japan get these games but not us? We INVENTED video games!
I'm American but I live in China. Most consoles don't get released here but the underground market is flooded with reproduction carts. It's almost impossible to buy the real stuff. However, it's pretty easy to get Famicom and Super Famicom games online. However, it's important to be VERY CAREFUL when shopping on their version of Amazon (called Taobao) because many shops try to pass off repros as the real deal. It can be tiring to try and figure out what's real and what isn't online but I've since become friends with some shop owners that only have legit stuff. However, it's really nice to be able to buy a repro copy of Alien Soldier or Little Sampson for dirt cheap. That and I'd rather get Famicom Disc system games as just famicom carts. But still, have to be incredibly careful here.
Richard Griffith why would you care for collecting the real deal when you live in CHINA? China is one great place for bootlegs and all that fancy smanchy stuff, get that instead.
I just bought a copy of Space Megaforce for $75 from a game store (not gamestop) Soon after, I realized it was a repro because "japan" is spelled wrong on the label (I don't have the screwdriver to open the case). Is there anything i can do to get (at least some of...) my money back? Repros of this game typically sell for about $30 , meaning i got ripped off like $45. Looking for advice, thanks.
No RGT85 video today so time to watch an oldie but goodie on my lunch. As long as the game says reproduction & is a fair cheap price then I am ok with it. They need to be upfront & honest about it.
diosoth I agree, I just can't understand his problem and gamers like him. Like Shawn explains some times there are games that where not released over in the US and we have them as repros. But I guess I'm alone when it comes to repros.
Pat the Nes Punk is the worst person on RUclips. He is terrible for the gaming industry. He has stated he "only buys used games". So dumb and terrible for development. Developers and publishers don't get any money if you buy used.
"If you're a younger viewer ... you might not know what the world of reproduction is." Say that again, slowly. Wait. I understand having a terrible printer from a thrift store, but no printer? Awesome video as usual.
If its an almost identical repro box/manual/inserts IM IN! Many of us have original games and want to store them in their original boxes (wich are almost impossible to get these days). I say original carts with all the complementary repro stuff (box+manual + inserts).
I do own some Repros like Conker's Bad Fur Day for the N64 or Shantae for the Gameboy. Just because those Games go for 200-400 for Cartridge only! And i still think, that a Game which isn't available anymore, won't raise 100% in Price!
I love repros because let's face it... old carts are GOING to start breaking down a lot sooner. They're a great option for casual gamers with a budget that just wanna experience these games. Until Nintendo starts re-releasing actual carts (never happening), I'll stand by repros.
the only time im not ok with repros is if i plan on keeping it in the box to display. other than that i dont care to buy repros because my main goal is to play them. As long as they are in good condition im fine
I think the only negative thing about reproduction cartridges is if someone tried to sell one as an original and ripped someone off...I think it's a great thing because it makes difficult to find games easier to obtain for someone who wants to play on the original hardware, it's also great for translating Japan only games.
Everybody here is worried about if "someone's gonna sell it off as original, collectional value blablabla" and no one seems to be worried about the fact that most (Genesis for example) cartridges use less power than the originals which causes more heat and might reduce the lifespan of the electronics of your console. I'm considering buying repros, because I'm a collector, enjoy having a physical representation of the game, but can't afford crazy market prices... but I think I will play them on a clone console and save the life of my original console.
Earthbound is not only a rare game but i didnt come out here in europe so repros are good in thst reguard, If you have ever bought a pokemon game online you know the stress of trying to look at the seller image to see if its fake or not i bought pokemon ruby and it was identical to the original but i wouldnt trade and it took longer to save it didnt connect to colosseum and i finally found out that the tiny little Nintendo logo was a slightly different font
Been asking myself this for a while. I dont like to judge before trying.. so have ordered some mods and repros so i can make a decision. Ill upload a vid to discuss when I have them. Thanks for sharing bro
I'm all for repro carts if it's a game that wasn't normally available in my country. Like say, my PAL copy of Panorama Cotton or Duke Nukem 3D. I do have a problem with how expensive games can be. Most sellers just want to make a small fortune if they think a game might be uncommon or just sought after. I see a copy of Super Mario Bros 3 for £112 on ebay right now. I guess because of the box being in good condition. Thats some expensive cardboard.
If it’s within my budget, I’ll buy the original. But for games like chrono trigger and earthbound I’ll take a repro any day. Translation repro’s are also amazing. I recently picked up smt2 on the snes on a repro cart (never been released in the west before) and it works and saves great in English.
If people can use a 3D printer to make a handgun then surely making repro carts is fine! I don't get why someone doesn't make 100 copies of stadiums events and head off to the caymans
Face it. Used copies of games that are rarer can cost hundreds, and the money doesn't even go to the devs/publishers. If I want to play Earthbound on SNES, I'd rather find a way to extract the VC version's ROM using homebrew on 3DS/WiiU, and make my own repo cart. That way, I paid Nintendo for the at a reasonable price, bought the hardware necessary to build my own cart, and all that would STILL cost less than getting a genuine cart from a stranger. Also if you don't want to make your own repo, buying one is still much more reasonable than a genuine cart. I admit it wouldn't feel as good playing a repo over a genuine cart. I've been there, but some games are just so damn overpriced.
I don’t have a problem with repro games as long as 1) it is clearly stated that the game is not authentic and 2) the game is not competing with the authentic game from the original manufacture. Like if someone is selling a repo of a GameBoy game than it doesn’t bother me because Nintendo no long manufactures authentic GB games, but if the same person were to make a repo switch game then it doesn’t make sense to me🤷🏽♂️
I am so glad I seen this video... my Wife got scammed on a Conkers Bad Fur Day... Shoot I didn't even know. but then I went & posted my find in a Retro Gamining Group on Facebook, & I got bashed on, saying I was the problem with retro gaming...
For something like BattleSphere for the Atari Jaguar, i would call those repro copies ilegal since the guys who did it still owns the copyright of the game. Not to mention that the sales of those retro copies never go to diabetes research (one of the members of the dev. team has diabetes). But AtarisewAge likes to incite pirate copies since some of the members there hold grudges against the team, so screw them...
But its not like the game itself will get them money anymore, its just gonna give money to a random ebay user. Diabetes research? Yeah sure, 4 dollars truly helped those poor diabetics huh? Fuck's sake.
Why there aren't OEM sellers of original cartridges, I mean if the Chinese can factory an n64/snes cartridge for 10$ an OEM seller might create a superior product for $40, affordable and that'll stop the gross second hand reselling and also repro market.
I wanted pokemon crystal, it was $50 bucks, the replica was $10 or $8 I can't really remember, it saves fine and is in a nice original gameboy style translucent blue cartridge, nice deal to me, since I'm not paying those crazy prices for some original games
I think repos are inconvenient, because if I want to buy an authentic copy of aero fighters for snes I'm going to be thinking every one is a repro unless it is absurdly priced. How can I compare it to a real one if there are seemingly all reproductions on the market, for such an uncommon game. It would be a different story if everyone was transparent and said exactly what they are selling, but I guess that is too much to ask in the world of reproductions.
Well said, it's your money. Im not paying more than new original msrp for any retro game. Not a reseller, just wanna play the game on original hardware.
I have repro of my higher dollar carts so I don't have to use the expensive ones....and secret of mana 2( seiken densetsu 3) because it never came the USA but that game is fucking amazing.....if square would release it in America I would buy it in a heartbeat..... digital or physical in a heartbeat..even tho I already got my repro cart
I think reproduction games should be as difficult as possible to tell apart from a real game so dumbass video game collectors and scalpers lose their "rare expensive" collections
It's kinda Ironic. In the development phase, these games sit on test carts and electronic store compact discs before the master file is sent to a printing company. The developers want people to experience their art by interacting with the game. People only get butthurt when they overpay for something for the sake of bragging rights. Collecting in itself is a hobby that can be applied to anything and the more scarce the higher the value. The question is -- are re-released games merely new forms of media, or bootlegs themselves?
Don't get me wrong, people can spend their money how they wish, but it is my opinion they should not want to spend their money on repros because they are not logical, but to each his own!
I had a guy in my gaming group FB who someone reported to me was selling Repo games for prices as a original. Had proof and all. He was selling games at a swap shop and he told people in another group if people can't tell its a repo then its on them. That pissed me off. He tried to sell me earthbound for 80 and wouldn't send board pics
I think repros are good, especially for those of us that want a physical version of a game that we know that we can't afford. Also, I like them for games that never came out here in my country and fan translations.
My issue is if someone buys a reproduction that is not labeled as such then they try to pass it off as real.
Which is almost always the case, especially for pricey games like EarthBound.
Although , i know faker games happen , i also must say that some people won't be able to experience a lot of older games unless more companies begin to do this. So i firmly endorse repros and actually buy them if they are cheaper. All in all I'm ok as long as the seller lists it as a repro-cart on the back. Not in the label though lol not mah artwork!
Right on. Scammers are garbage. But a known repro for 1/10th market price? OH YEAH.
Tyler Swagar yeah but I think people know how to tell them apart if you’re buying a game that pricy
@@DanielBrown-nb9zz yeah I think something you should do is is when you buy a repro get any random Super Nintendo cartridge that you don’t care about and just switch out the back or you can use the shell and insert the repro in there.
You're not doing the original creators of the game (ie. Nintendo and Enix) if you buy a legit version for $200. 100% of those proceeds go to the reseller. Fine if you're only collecting originals, but if you just wanna play it on physical hardware, I'm cool with it.
John Riggs: RIGG'd Games true. I personally don't like repros unless they are of hacks fangames, and stuff of that nature. English patches are cool too. That's why I like your channel
Heh. Funny seeing you here. Your guides are super helpful, btw!
100% agree. If I could buy some of those old games new at reasonable prices in physical form straight from the devs I would do that. It's cool to have a cheap option for those $200 games that won't break the bank so I can focus on the stuff I really want and buy current stuff as well that will help devs.
Yah I just looked at my navigations an there is a replay from John Riggs I was stunned.
Ding. The ONLY time repro carts are bad is when people try to pass them off as original and sell them at absurd prices, or when they make repros by cannibalizing other legit games, like what we see with Batman: Return of the Joker being used for Mr. Gimmick repos.
As long as it works, I'm honestly more than fine with buying repros instead of authentic games.
You said it
Same! Pretty happy to find out these exist. It’s so nice to have an option to get these old games without having to sell an arm and a leg for them. It doesn’t surprise me that people are miffed about these, probably the same people that are against emulation. I really don’t understand their logic. “Oh you’re stealing from the developers!”. Here’s the thing though, no matter how you obtain these games, emulating, buying reproduction carts, or building them second hand from game stores, in the end the devs get nothing. If anything by their logic, wouldn’t it be much worse to buy an lusciously overpriced old game, since someone is making a massive profit and the devs get none of it
You are more than right
They damage your system over time and overheat.
@@postindierock5063I'm already using cheaper clone consoles anyways, so so be it... Replacing a Retron 3 system is still less expensive than what many people are charging for these games lately...
Reproductions are fantastic, I think they're a huge asset to retro gaming. I was able to play friggin Alien Soldier, Musha, Hagane, Wild Guns on OG hardware thanks to repros and they're some of the very best 16-bit games imo, had a kickass time with them.
AS wasn't released in the states and Musha/Hagane etc cost an arm and a leg, as long you're buying from a genuine seller, repros are a blessing to the hobby.
Retro Soul I agree, Zelda 64 is pricey
I am the same, I'm perfectly fine with a reproduction as long as it's clearly labeled somewhere as such.
+Nott Joey you are a wise man
My grandfather had a joke about owning Tecumseh's tomahawk he'd say "of course, it's had 3 new blades and 2 new handles since then".
Retro gaming (Right now) reminds of that.
Love Repros! I’m finally able to play Hagane, Metal Warriors, Ninja Warriors, and Secret of Mana without spending over 100 dollars! But yeah, just remember not to pass them off as the real thing.
I'm concerned less with reproduction carts...
What I *REALLY* want is for someone to make some good reproduction SEGA cases-
Master System/Genesis(clear enveloped black plastic), SEGA CD/Saturn(legit clear hard plastic).
Right *there*- is some mad money to be made by someone.
What I do is buy common sports titles for a $1 a piece at my local retro store, print out my desired Genesis cover and use the case that came with the sports game.
Yeah, I kinda do the same.
But as a collector purist, that makes me feel bad that I am taking that low value sports title off the market (which someone might be looking for) just so I can replace a cracked/worn case.
I've seen companies go into making replacement cases for other market fields, so I always hoped that some company would discover that game cases was an open market to make good profit. Everyone would win.
Actually a user by the name of ShadowFox @ thecoverproject.com has a site called customgamecases.com where he sells reproduction cases (no artwork) for NES, SNES, N64, Genesis (these even have the retail hanger on top), GBA, DS, PSP, and he is currently in the early process of designing and manufacturing Sega Saturn style long-box style jewel cases. Might be of interest for some of you guys.
Thanks SZU gaming.
Yeah, I had read about *thecoverproject* and *customgamecases* a while back, but kinda dismissed them because at the time they didn't apply to what I wanted-- the more difficult Genesis hardcases, and the (never happening) SEGA-CD/Saturn jewel cases.
But now that you say they might venture into finding a way of making the SEGA longbox jewel cases, I'm going to have to check back with them.
Thanks, again! :-D
piko interactive sells new megadrive cases.
I personally don't care about repro carts as long as the same people who complain that emulation being piracy say the same thing of repro carts.
One could also say the same about the used game market (both current and retro) where a publisher/developer does not see a dime beyond the initial sale. The only difference between a downloaded rom, a repro cart or a used game is that one of the three is 'morally right'. From a pure business perspective all three are one and the same.
SZU Gaming i have no moral dilemma in either of those 3. like you said the developer doesnt see a dime past the initial sale, so how is it stealing? just because there is a law against something doesnt necessarily mean that its morally wrong. ie jaywalking or extortion. wait, extortion is wrong. and jaywalking endangers drivers. and the virtual console exists. 🤔
I’m in a real big mood to play Final Fantasy 3/VI on my Snes and I see Repos not even $15, original cart for $20 or translated updates for $70 but I wasn’t sure how to feel about Repos, glad you had an opinion to share!
I love repro boxes! My whole N64 and genesis collections are housed in repros now. I like that I can buy plastic cases for games that came in cardboard. I wouldn't call myself a collector. I fit in the group you classified as people who just want to play the games, so i prefer an inexpensive repro, digital, or multicart over some out of print expensive original. Its cool to own something rare and valuable, but the people getting upset about repros are the ones who seem to be looking for self worth and confidence from their collection, which is a whole nother topic.
I have most of the very expensive SNES cart repros and they were all like 9 bucks a piece. I understand why some people would hate but i hate spending hundreds of dollars on a single cart! ;)
Bisskits Yup! they run fine. But some repros have a tight fit. I usually buy repros made with higher quality materials or original repurposed materials.
Legend of Crews i have about 80 percent of the usa snes releases emulated on my original modded xbox only paid a mate $20 to install everything and clean it out haha
A friend of mine gave me a modded xbox with nes,snes,genesis,neo geo other emulators too much stuff i havent even looked at all of it. All i had to do was come move a 30 inch CRT and the xbox out of his house.
Hundred of dollars? They should be $1.00-$5.00 because they're old games. Whoever charged this much must be mentally retarded.
@@The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane This is a logically thought process that I can slightly agree with but we have such a collectible mindset in the market that it's not as easy as saying they are older games they should cost less. The original company put out only so many carts back in the day it was still new. They REFUSE to put out more carts, but will put out downloadable versions on the virtual console for some games and some systems. Therefore when buying a used game, say for SNES, you are buying something that isn't made anymore and the market has a mindset that rarity increases the value no matter what. Now I for one am a fan of emulation in the fact that I can play and enjoy the games I use to own and sold, use to rent but never got to own, and games I have never even heard of or had the chance to play/buy back in my youth. Now we also have the same issue with all other markets. Take the Car market for instance, a 1970 mustang by definition of age of materials and technology used in it should be a relatively cheap car, probably about 500-1500 depending on condition as you're looking at least to the value of the scrap metal you can haul it off for. However in many different conditions this car can still go as high as 30,000 or more depending on mileage on the engine, part numbers matching all original parts, and place you are selling it at. For the same price you can buy a brand new vehicle for, you can own a car from 1970 that is used, it has been maintained well but has been driven around for X amount of miles and been exposed to all the weather over that full nearly 50 years. The term "classic" being attached to something seems to instantly trigger a meaningful jump in it's worth. A Classic Honda Civic from say 1985 could fetch nearly 10k or more in good condition, simply cause it's considered a "classic".
Now when people talk about "Collecting Games" I find that you are basically buying a game and meaning to not play it to keep it in pristine condition in order to sell it again at a later date when the value has increased. Now the rest of the collectors also fall into sub categories of collectors who enjoy games and collectors who enjoy the market of games, as well as the more snooty type of collector who only wants to show off their collection of games. I personally have no problem with the first cause they play the games and find the joy they were intended for. The rest are all about the money and "prestige" of it all and they are why the market is a high as it is in many cases.
As almost everyone in the comments are saying, I am 100% fine with repros,
as long as they are
A. Labeled as a repro and not passed off as legit
B. Function as intended
And C. aren't over priced or priced higher than a legit copy
They get an A in my book
One thing to consider if you buy repro. You get a brand new cartridge, with modern components. Some repro copies use flash chips instead of CMOS like the originals.
I like the Reproduction idea as it's helpful in a few areas:
1: no permanent black sharpie on the case with someone's name
2: should be with a new battery or other way to save so not worried about a 20+ year old battery dying and erasing your save
3: Cover sticker SHOULD be nice and new but can be half assed and not really authentic image
4: better pricing for just the game as opposed to a collector's price for something you want to play and not just put on the shelf to look at and then sell at a later date for more than you spent
5: access to games we never got over here in the US and missed out on the original story and look.
6: getting the feel of playing the game off the cartridge and system like the original was designed for and not just emulated on the PC
Now I do love gaming and I'm very fond of retro games that I played growing up. There are hundreds I haven't played and would like the chance to play. However there is a bit of a difference in playing on PC via emulation and playing on the console. Much like there's a difference in holding the book or manga in your hand and reading it, or looking at the screen and reading a digital copy of it. Not to mention just the simple fact that retro gaming has been a growing trend and the current console gaming companies have yet to do anything besides put out the "Classic" mini versions of their old consoles with only a handful of games loaded on them, which is just someone making an emulator system with pre-loaded games on it's HDD and selling it under licensed trademark.
A reproduction cart can be a marketing switch that if the official companies picked up on and put out their own reproductions would mean a full revival of retro gaming instead of current fight between collectors and yard sales that the current market is represented by.
So, as long as a Repro has SOME minor change from a real cart, I'm fine with it. And when it comes to repros of prototype games, betas, and rom hacks, go ahead and do whatever.
But here's a thing to consider. Websites that sell reproductions of rom hacks. It's not really as big of a market compared to repros of real games that people don't wanna spend $50+ on. But it's a thing. There used to be a website/company called Timewalk games. They made super high quality products. Their major focal point was selling reproduction carts of rom hacks (usually complete with custom made boxes, manuals, and sometimes even a small mini poster and map).
Sounds great, right? Yeah. Except they didn't always get permission from a hack creator before selling it. I remember there was this big deal one time because they were selling a hack (I think it was of Punch Out on NES?), and they didn't get permission from the guy that made it. They did at least give the guy credit on the store page. Then, supposedly, when he asked them to take it down, they straight up erased his credit from the store page, and kept selling it anyway. Like, what kinda bullshit is that? And naturally, it's a hack of a Nintendo game, it's not like the hack-creator could take 'em to court over it or anything.
(There was another issue of Timewalk stealing art off of Deviantart for their manuals too. I was actually the one that informed an artist on DA about it. I asked him if he knew Timewalk was using his art, and his answer? "No, I'll have to look into it." Timewalk closed pretty soon after. Gotta wonder if that had anything to do with it...)
being I'm not rich and family comes first repros are great for me.
....Most of them are 50-100 dllars on shoddy old carts...
Great video, the thrut is that rich people can collect all they want, and casual regular people can have the same experience for a lot less.
I agree with you. To add on the putting reproduction on the label, I like the use of colored carts rather than gray, making it even easier to show that it isn't original.
Retro Patronum if you werent blind you could see how cheap the plastic is, so no, im sure they would not waste their time for fools.
I bought a few good repros from Etsy, I reckon they're great.
Sick of people charging sky high prices for some games that are very easy to find.
As long as the seller states they're repro then i don't see an issue.
Tjtravman exactly I bought plenty at Esty am not paying arm in a leg mane and I get full quality and same then the real one am happy love it
I think it's fine as long as the game either never released, either in one region or at all, or if the game is super rare and expensive. Otherwise, there's really no point.
That is my name lol
It's pronounced Gun-yet-ta-nor-do.
Thanks for picking my question Shawn
I like that repros exist to allow us access to both incredibly rare/sought after titles or (like you mentioned) unreleased/translated titles that can be played on your region's hardware. I picked up a repro cart of Mega Man - the Wily Wars for my Genesis a few years back, and I love having the option to play Mega Man games on my original hardware without having to pay the $500-ish dollars or whatever it costs for both a PAL cart and the stuff needed to run a PAL Mega Drive on my TV.
i dont mind reproduction cartridges SO LONG AS THE SELLER LABELS THEM AS SUCH! i like getting original hardware and ive been burned by reproduction cartridges atleast 4 times, but i did intentionally buy 2 reproduction cartridges.
I had a reproduction cartridge made for my nephews 6th birthday of the unreleased Thomas the tank engine on nes my nephew loves the nes cool uncle points right here
I kind of wish you covered a little bit more of the risks of repros. You know, like how some games put in a bunch of stuff to screw with the game if it is a repro. Like making the game way too difficult, making things incompletable, or just straight up not working at all. There is a factor of this in earthbound, which is why it can't really be reproduced. If you try playing on a reproduction cartridge, the game will spawn in a TON of more enemies, making traversing a lot more difficult, hindering gameplay and overall ruining the experience of the game. There's a similar thing with Megaman X. And as far as I know, there isn't really something that just tells you "This game does this if it's being played via reproduction" which is why I tend to avoid reproduction carts. They can be good for games that are absurdly priced, but only as long as they play exactly 1 to 1 to the original. Unless it's modded version of a game that fixes or adds something (translations, more stuff, etc.)
Far superior channel to beat em ups. Baffling how there's way less subs.
In one of my gaming cabinets I have a mk1 mega drive with a 196 in 1 multicart sticking out of it.
The shelf underneath has a super Nintendo with a 70 in 1 multicart (with battery backup)
I'm fine with this, it allows me to play a range of games at a fraction of the cost on these two systems.
Repros and Roms are good because they keep the prices of original carts and virtual console like services under control. We all know that retro prices need all the control it could get. Imagine if going through resellers was the only way to play retro games...
That would be a pretty dark world...
Not all reproduction carts are made in China. Some are made with American and Canadian parts. They might cost more but remember when you buy something that's cheap, it's inexpensive too.
I just bought Dracula X and Chrono trigger repro's on AliExpress, these games are way to expensive to get the real thing so the repro option is great for people who just want to have a copy in their collection to play.
Good discussion Shawn. I don't have any repros - but I also don't have any problems with them, as long as the vendors are truthful and the product is clearly labeled, as you said. Given the very high prices of some games, repros can be a viable and practical way to experience those games.
"It's video games baby, It's video games"
It turns out my wife is a reproduction cart.
Sad days 😔
I think it's great for the gamming community bcuz there cheaply priced & they play well also if the original is too expensive & hard 2 find repros r a excellent only option! As long as it's labeled repro out of respect
For me repros are good, for the reason that I can get them, and I don't have to break my bank, but yes buying a repro game and then selling it for the price of the original would be a $$hit move.
I have no problem with repros as long as they are sold as such, but I do like to get original games generally because you won’t have to worry about time bombs or anything else regarding game glitches, etc. they just tend to work better which makes sense
I have a repro Little Samson. Obviously I'm not going to spend $1k on a game and I want to play it. I don't have an NES usb controller to play for emulation so I went to aliexpress. I'm fine with repros.
I've been wanting to play Chrono Trigger since I bought my snes but even after saving up some money I just can't justify paying over $100 for a single game, not that it isn't bad to do so, I just can't justify it.
So I'm strongly considering buying a reproduction copy. I just want it to be the same quality GAME PLAY WISE as the original.
I never got to play chrono trigger and I don't want my first time playing it to be ruined by issues someone who played the original when it first came out wouldn't be plagued with.
Reproductions aren't badly translated fan made copies of games are they? Thats the impression I get when someone says reproduction.
love your Eddie Guerrero 'Ay Papi' haha! Another great video, keep it up !
I believe that the problem is even deeper. There are hundreds of people who dont even know what repros are - This , believe or not, also include some people selling. Repros that dont make obvious that they are repros, are a pool of problem just waiting to splash and wet hundreds of buyers and even some unaware sellers. And lets not forget the malicious ones too. For all those reasons, Im deeply against the making of repros of the 4th type you commented.
I'm a-ok with repros as long as:
1. They mark it as a repro
2. It's priced as a cheap repro. $40-$80 for a repro is a bit absurd.
I have an older, gray 150-in-1 NES cartridge, but there's not really 150 games on it. It's a select number of NES and Famicom games split into several selectable levels. Like, instead of each selection being a different game, it's one of the same games, but a different level. Which I find stupid. Reproductions of games never released in the US are the best ones.
I dislike the sellers who sell fan translations and hacks. I have BS Zelda and in the option menu it says to not buy it reproduced. Violating a mega corporation's copyright is one thing, but exploiting fans for money is another. I bought the Sailor Moon RPG on SNES and it really doesn't run right because the fans who made the translation did not know what they were doing with the font choice and it wont show up on screen right on a 'real' SNES. Also, totally right about labeling things as Repro's. I saw a Genesis Sailor Moon repro at MAGFest and was confused at first and had to ask what it was. Turns out that repro carts were all that they had.
Repos are only good for games that are extreme rare or not released in the U.S.
I just bought a copy of Chrono Trigger: Flame of Eternity fan made game on a SNES cartridge on Aliexpress.
Some of these are real well made.
I have a simple rule for repro carts, it has to have never existed. Zelda Outlands, something in english that was never released, all perfectly fine. The one exception is the 151 in 1 cart in my Neo Geo MVS Arcade. Those games really exists but the savings and convenience was way too much for me to ignore.
I agree. I don't really care about reproduction carts as long as they are clearly marked and clearly sold as repros. That said, I personally would much rather put any money I would spend on repros towards an authentic cartridge, but as far as what others do, I couldn't care less.
While I could see why people would be against them...I believe For super expensive games like Pocky and Rocky, or games that never came out in America, or at all, (Starfox 2) I think repros are godsend.
Repro carts work really well for stuff like Secret of Mana 2 and Bahamut Lagoon, games that we got fucked out of here in the States. Why does Japan get these games but not us? We INVENTED video games!
dynamickirby hows that?
I'm American but I live in China. Most consoles don't get released here but the underground market is flooded with reproduction carts. It's almost impossible to buy the real stuff. However, it's pretty easy to get Famicom and Super Famicom games online. However, it's important to be VERY CAREFUL when shopping on their version of Amazon (called Taobao) because many shops try to pass off repros as the real deal. It can be tiring to try and figure out what's real and what isn't online but I've since become friends with some shop owners that only have legit stuff. However, it's really nice to be able to buy a repro copy of Alien Soldier or Little Sampson for dirt cheap. That and I'd rather get Famicom Disc system games as just famicom carts. But still, have to be incredibly careful here.
Richard Griffith why would you care for collecting the real deal when you live in CHINA? China is one great place for bootlegs and all that fancy smanchy stuff, get that instead.
I'm fine with repros, as long as who ever is selling them is transparent and labels them as such and they don't cause any damage to the system itself.
I just bought a copy of Space Megaforce for $75 from a game store (not gamestop) Soon after, I realized it was a repro because "japan" is spelled wrong on the label (I don't have the screwdriver to open the case). Is there anything i can do to get (at least some of...) my money back? Repros of this game typically sell for about $30 , meaning i got ripped off like $45. Looking for advice, thanks.
No RGT85 video today so time to watch an oldie but goodie on my lunch. As long as the game says reproduction & is a fair cheap price then I am ok with it. They need to be upfront & honest about it.
This needs to be explained to Pat the Nes Punk he has an issue with repros. I'm with you I don't care
Yeah he is very against repros. It doesn't bother me.
CosGamer he probably has a problem with flashing nes roms to make new games or repros.
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I agree, I just can't understand his problem and gamers like him. Like Shawn explains some times there are games that where not released over in the US and we have them as repros. But I guess I'm alone when it comes to repros.
Pat the Nes Punk is the worst person on RUclips. He is terrible for the gaming industry. He has stated he "only buys used games". So dumb and terrible for development. Developers and publishers don't get any money if you buy used.
CosGamer doesn't he have a Mr Gimmick repro?
"If you're a younger viewer ... you might not know what the world of reproduction is."
Say that again, slowly.
Wait. I understand having a terrible printer from a thrift store, but no printer?
Awesome video as usual.
If its an almost identical repro box/manual/inserts IM IN! Many of us have original games and want to store them in their original boxes (wich are almost impossible to get these days). I say original carts with all the complementary repro stuff (box+manual + inserts).
nah
@@Strashky yaaa
I do own some Repros like Conker's Bad Fur Day for the N64 or Shantae for the Gameboy. Just because those Games go for 200-400 for Cartridge only! And i still think, that a Game which isn't available anymore, won't raise 100% in Price!
I love repros because let's face it... old carts are GOING to start breaking down a lot sooner. They're a great option for casual gamers with a budget that just wanna experience these games.
Until Nintendo starts re-releasing actual carts (never happening), I'll stand by repros.
the only time im not ok with repros is if i plan on keeping it in the box to display. other than that i dont care to buy repros because my main goal is to play them. As long as they are in good condition im fine
I think the only negative thing about reproduction cartridges is if someone tried to sell one as an original and ripped someone off...I think it's a great thing because it makes difficult to find games easier to obtain for someone who wants to play on the original hardware, it's also great for translating Japan only games.
Reproductions don’t work with gameshark and game genie though right?
Everybody here is worried about if "someone's gonna sell it off as original, collectional value blablabla" and no one seems to be worried about the fact that most (Genesis for example) cartridges use less power than the originals which causes more heat and might reduce the lifespan of the electronics of your console.
I'm considering buying repros, because I'm a collector, enjoy having a physical representation of the game, but can't afford crazy market prices... but I think I will play them on a clone console and save the life of my original console.
I love repro cartridges, got 5 of them. All games that were never release in North America and are all translated.
Earthbound is not only a rare game but i didnt come out here in europe so repros are good in thst reguard, If you have ever bought a pokemon game online you know the stress of trying to look at the seller image to see if its fake or not i bought pokemon ruby and it was identical to the original but i wouldnt trade and it took longer to save it didnt connect to colosseum and i finally found out that the tiny little Nintendo logo was a slightly different font
Been asking myself this for a while. I dont like to judge before trying.. so have ordered some mods and repros so i can make a decision. Ill upload a vid to discuss when I have them. Thanks for sharing bro
I'm all for repro carts if it's a game that wasn't normally available in my country. Like say, my PAL copy of Panorama Cotton or Duke Nukem 3D.
I do have a problem with how expensive games can be. Most sellers just want to make a small fortune if they think a game might be uncommon or just sought after. I see a copy of Super Mario Bros 3 for £112 on ebay right now. I guess because of the box being in good condition. Thats some expensive cardboard.
If it’s within my budget, I’ll buy the original. But for games like chrono trigger and earthbound I’ll take a repro any day. Translation repro’s are also amazing. I recently picked up smt2 on the snes on a repro cart (never been released in the west before) and it works and saves great in English.
You should do a video in which you show off your large and clearly boss collection. I would be jelly but also would throughly enjoy seeing your stash.
If people can use a 3D printer to make a handgun then surely making repro carts is fine! I don't get why someone doesn't make 100 copies of stadiums events and head off to the caymans
Face it. Used copies of games that are rarer can cost hundreds, and the money doesn't even go to the devs/publishers. If I want to play Earthbound on SNES, I'd rather find a way to extract the VC version's ROM using homebrew on 3DS/WiiU, and make my own repo cart. That way, I paid Nintendo for the at a reasonable price, bought the hardware necessary to build my own cart, and all that would STILL cost less than getting a genuine cart from a stranger. Also if you don't want to make your own repo, buying one is still much more reasonable than a genuine cart. I admit it wouldn't feel as good playing a repo over a genuine cart. I've been there, but some games are just so damn overpriced.
I might get Repro cases for my n64 games any good sites I can buy from thanks ?
Hey, isn't a cloned console also a reproduction?
Waymin in many ways yes but on a different note the issue with most clones is that they can never get the damn sound and color correct.
Yep!
Is there a website that sells Reproduction carts?
I don’t have a problem with repro games as long as 1) it is clearly stated that the game is not authentic and 2) the game is not competing with the authentic game from the original manufacture. Like if someone is selling a repo of a GameBoy game than it doesn’t bother me because Nintendo no long manufactures authentic GB games, but if the same person were to make a repo switch game then it doesn’t make sense to me🤷🏽♂️
If you know its repro and not a scam, then its all good. Repro hurt no one if the buyer knows.
I am so glad I seen this video... my Wife got scammed on a Conkers Bad Fur Day... Shoot I didn't even know. but then I went & posted my find in a Retro Gamining Group on Facebook, & I got bashed on, saying I was the problem with retro gaming...
This is why I'm here. To help. And make stupid videos. Lol
For something like BattleSphere for the Atari Jaguar, i would call those repro copies ilegal since the guys who did it still owns the copyright of the game. Not to mention that the sales of those retro copies never go to diabetes research (one of the members of the dev. team has diabetes). But AtarisewAge likes to incite pirate copies since some of the members there hold grudges against the team, so screw them...
But its not like the game itself will get them money anymore, its just gonna give money to a random ebay user. Diabetes research? Yeah sure, 4 dollars truly helped those poor diabetics huh? Fuck's sake.
is the quality the same? the gameplay?
Why there aren't OEM sellers of original cartridges, I mean if the Chinese can factory an n64/snes cartridge for 10$ an OEM seller might create a superior product for $40, affordable and that'll stop the gross second hand reselling and also repro market.
Will reproduction carts damage the hardware? I've heard some of these carts do not fit correctly in the system.
Also what if they cause overheating issues.
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They should start printing REPRODUCTION on the cart plastic, on the inside by the connectors.
I am considering buying one for Castlevania 4. It's ridiculously expensive in Europe. Is it worth it?
+WH250398 it's a great game.
I wanted pokemon crystal, it was $50 bucks, the replica was $10 or $8 I can't really remember, it saves fine and is in a nice original gameboy style translucent blue cartridge, nice deal to me, since I'm not paying those crazy prices for some original games
I think repos are inconvenient, because if I want to buy an authentic copy of aero fighters for snes I'm going to be thinking every one is a repro unless it is absurdly priced. How can I compare it to a real one if there are seemingly all reproductions on the market, for such an uncommon game. It would be a different story if everyone was transparent and said exactly what they are selling, but I guess that is too much to ask in the world of reproductions.
dababownz how you do it?
Have functional eyes, repros almost always have cheap parts, its apparent enough with the cheap labels and the plastic used.
Agree 100%
thanks bud
Well said, it's your money. Im not paying more than new original msrp for any retro game. Not a reseller, just wanna play the game on original hardware.
Repros are cheap, unless you go neo geo then suddenly it's 500% more expensive because reasons
Nicholas Golden neo geo carts ar giant.
@RGT85 legit game software companies they should just remake every original game, so we can out source the repro games.
But what is the actual difference between an original game and the reproduction cart?
I have repro of my higher dollar carts so I don't have to use the expensive ones....and secret of mana 2( seiken densetsu 3) because it never came the USA but that game is fucking amazing.....if square would release it in America I would buy it in a heartbeat..... digital or physical in a heartbeat..even tho I already got my repro cart
I think reproduction games should be as difficult as possible to tell apart from a real game so dumbass video game collectors and scalpers lose their "rare expensive" collections
I'm not paying $450+ for an original Hagane. I'll take the $12 chinese knockoff thank you very much.
Been thinking about buying repo carts for gameboy. Since the battery in the games are most likely dead.
It's kinda Ironic. In the development phase, these games sit on test carts and electronic store compact discs before the master file is sent to a printing company. The developers want people to experience their art by interacting with the game. People only get butthurt when they overpay for something for the sake of bragging rights. Collecting in itself is a hobby that can be applied to anything and the more scarce the higher the value.
The question is -- are re-released games merely new forms of media, or bootlegs themselves?
Don't get me wrong, people can spend their money how they wish, but it is my opinion they should not want to spend their money on repros because they are not logical, but to each his own!
The reason I can see people being upset over repos is it drives down the price of expensive games.
They can stay upset
I had a guy in my gaming group FB who someone reported to me was selling Repo games for prices as a original. Had proof and all. He was selling games at a swap shop and he told people in another group if people can't tell its a repo then its on them. That pissed me off. He tried to sell me earthbound for 80 and wouldn't send board pics
PxBxC well he has a point, we should not protect idiots, they should become smarter instead of staying in their bubble of imaturity.
But can you use a game genie on a multi cart?
thanks for letting me know about Sweet Home