Who Am I? Ramana Maharshi and His Discovery of Self-Enquiry ~ Shunyamurti Satsang Teaching
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In this video teaching, Shunyamurti clarifies that the realization of the Self happens outside of time, beyond the world. However, the ego-mind is caught in practicality, inner drives, desires, and fears. Shunyamurti contrasts this with the case of Sri Ramana Maharshi and gives a detailed account of Ramana's history leading up to and following his realization of the Self. Shunyamurti ends the teaching explaining that Self-realization will happen the moment we choose it.
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I came across Ramana Maharishi years ago which inspired the following poem :
Who Am I ?
Cosmic Consciousness, born into the flesh.
A creature in the kingdom of the Almighty.
The Formless Seer dwelling in a human host.
A spiritual being sent to this earthly plane.
A partner in the ascent of humankind.
A divine incarnation governed by the Logic of the Lord.
Self-realized, I AM.
There cant be a better lecture on Ramana maharishi than this. His death experience was the starting point which culmunated in finding the source and destination of "I" thought in his own way.
The best living Teacher..atleast on youtube 😜😘🌬❤️ Love you guys at sat yoga, affirm your Highest
I've been going through terrible anxiety & panic attacks. When I was a kid I remember I could go into a state of trance by going on asking my self this question " Who am I ? "... Naturally I could swift into a parallel state... but I could not contain that intense state for long so I used to force myself to get back to my normal state. Now I find it nearly impossible to do that meditation because of all the adulteration accumulated as I grew up. Now with all my negative experiences in life to which I was probably bound due to my past life karmas, I am not at peace. I can't meditate. At times I feel like taking the medicines that used to give me an artificial high. I need a Guru or a spiritual friend with whom I can elevate my consciousness so I can progress spiritually. At present my physical life is so materialistic that I can't find peace anywhere.
Shayoni, i saw your post and it touched me as you are so honest and in real life this is so exeptional. I love people who share their deepest inner darkness and fears. I would like a companion like that as it would make me feel comfortable talking about my fears, insecurities. I hope you can find a soulmate who loves you unconditionally and allows you to express yr darkest and deepest fears and supports you like an ideal mother would.
I wish you well young lady
I surely understand what you described as I was there myself for years.. and yet patiently practiced over years to let all negativity evaporate with detachment, not reinforcing or suppressing it eventually yields to great progress over time....so don't give up but persevere at your best ability at any moment and you will find that out for yourself then...😘🤗🙏🙏
Realize the joke of all of this
@@CaptainSanchez I didn't quite get you ?
Thank You Shunyamurti
Absolutely Beautifully presented
Just re watching
Namaste 🙏
Wow what a beautiful story and how beautifully told..
Thank you
So Very Thoroughly Calmingly Enjoyable. This list is Awe Some.
Thank You Beloved Shunyamurti ❤
The Bodily Vehicle has to cook dinner, in Silence and cannot wait to hear much more.
Beautiful Story Telling
Love You Muchly One Consciousness
Wow Beloved Brother Shunyamurti ❤
Your Edifying Teachings just get better, the order God is sending them to me in is perfect order.
Sending Much Love and Light to you ❤ 🙏.
All Praises and Great Glory to Our Mighty Most High Living God
Namaste Family.
Thank you Shunyamurti for sharing this beautiful story and the Truth of our real eternal nature. Namaste 🙏 Om Nama Shivaya, Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya 🕉️🙏
when was much younger i recall all of the pressures of what are you going to do what is your future ? i was traveling and it occurred to me that i did not want to do anything and now hearing this lecture i think i know why so
Really beautiful.. thank you Shunyamurti for relaying these truthful and timeless facts.The spark that ignites when the Being is ready to fully awaken to the One Self stays with me.
Only in silence will the self reveal itself to itself by itself
Thank you. This is so well done as are all of your presentations. Thanks for allowing this message to flow!
Does anyone know what animal sound that is in the background? Sorry my attention swayed but beautiful message as always. Probably 3rd time i have listened.
A sacred story told from a sacred space......
Love it 💖
Fitting , I think....... that the background audio , sounds like demons calling us to the "other side"!.... 😂🧡🖤
As always an excellent presentation. But i must admit i got a bit scared with the background roaring noise 😮
Apart from David Godman ,this is one of the best on RM..Thnks a lot.
Love in form of poetry about Love 🙏🍀
Great talk on Ramana ... pity about the audio background noise though !
Fantastic lecture thnx
Why doesn't someone release that dinosaur in the garage we hear in the background?
Lol !
if you think you are someone, you lose being the whole. you seperate something out of the wholeness, to be someone. then you exist only in the part and lose all .like if you see one tree taken out of its context you lose the whole, you don't see the whole wood but only one tree , you seperate what is not seperated.. . so we suffer.. afraid and lonely and helpless.. lost in our own illusory encirceld part, a seperated circle. ... the wave rises up from the water it is made of... and falls back again.
@@TheWorldTeacher yes, 😏😉
What is more appropriate for progress in the spiritual journey
?
Getting involved in the some activity that is in someway of help to others , without losing focus on the self-enquiry , meditaion etc or Focus only on what is actually required for the spiritual journey .
In other words, does service to mankind or animals/and life around us help me progress in the spiritual journey or is it part of the stories of the ego /maya and need to be ignored?
He is also hilarious in his delivery sometimes
Self is only when consciousness know itself as such.
Ramana Maharshi was sure asking a lot of deep questions at 12. When i was 12 i was devising plans on how to eat my snot in public without anyone seeing. That was the height of my intelligence. Ramana is thinking about the origins of the soul and the underlying nature of reality... Man am i unevolved. I still havent figured out how to pick my nose in my car inconspicuously.
this would get on my nerves, but Who Am I...to even judge? I like to smell my own farts
@@karimakamal9860 Do you really? I find that attractive in a woman. Where do you live?
Thank You 🙏🙏
Thank you Shunyamurti x
Ramana's Heart-knot was not cut upon his death samadhi. As made clear in his talks, it happened about one year after he had moved to Arunachala. And during that year he did intense sadhana.
with all due respect, what is that background howling sound?
A Doggoo
Almost hurts to hear that howling Dog. Sorry can't focus on beautiful teachings on this video 😔😔
I think it's a dinosaur locked in a garage
Devil dogs...
Pretty sure someone is performing an exorcism nearby...
🙏
Do we have the free choice to become liberated, or do we have the illusion of it?
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info addict - the illusion. We are puppets of fate
I was longing for years for this. Accidentally. I came across this .thank you swami great way of expressing.
As long as you believe in a seperated 'I' there will be felt a free will
Perfection
Are we part of a social experiment to graduate into consciousness?.
Gracias
it seems that just about everybody is on that plane of the world materialism achievment etc and i have learned to never never utter a word about anything spiritual it does not work - i live in s f there are countless yoga studios so would think there would be more inclination toward the spiritual awakening
not uttering a word about anything spiritual, that's beautiful, let fermentation be complete, as rumi stated, before a child start to speak he remain silent for a long period,he's all ears, thanks shawn, love you good morning
Perhaps, those who this world would say are chronicly depressed, are actually waking up.
my guess is they are hitting a wall of frustration as their ego goals are not being met. thats how i interpret the depression i suffered from. the world didnt match what i expected of it. when i started to let go of those expectations the depression started to lift.
if you managed to manipulate the world into meeting your ego goals, you would not think of waking up, that is unless those goals ended up causing further unforeseen troubles and frustration.
Question: Who am I?
Answer: Correct
like the song from the 70s Please tell me who i am -!
If it wasn't "he" who lay in the basement, how did the liberated man recognize that "he" was in samadhi?
Are you sure your description of Ramana's life at the age of 12 when his father died, accurate? Afraid not. It will be nice if you could post a link to where you got your reference from?
I sometimes wonder to what extent his life style was a displaced expression of his grief for his loss.
Surely this is a facile explanation of course, but it must explain at least the origins of it.
Grief was definitely a catalyst, but the process of spiritual discovery was no less real because of it. In fact, it likely would not have happened without it. Good thing he wasn’t born in the West, he would have been given a psychiatric diagnosis and medication to “normalize” him. The DSM-5 would call it depersonalization/derealization disorder. It’s a tragedy to think how many Ramanas might have been born here only to be labeled mentally ill.
Doesn't answering the question "who am I" simply grant the ego another identification, even if it is with the higher self or the whole?
Who am I has no answer because there exist Noone
why would the I wind up in a body anyway ?
So was it an out of body experience he had, wld u say? Or that plus some connection with some thing beyond normal consciousness? ?
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He simply realized the Self. There was no out of body anything or beyond normal nothing. He realized that Self which is the actual normal consciousness. There was no connection, for what would connect to what? That would imply some duality, when the Self is only one entity. The ego doesn't connect with the Self, because the ego is only an illusion of the Self. When that illusion disappears for one person, the common interpretation is that they "connected" with something higher, because those interpreting it are still in the illusion of an ego which believes itself to be something lower. He simply realized that the lower "self" isn't a reality. Nothing out of body, but He saw that the Self is and always has been beyond the body and mind. That is the true normal.
@@dasi_is_dasi thanks.🙏 Wat u say makes sense.. yet why don't we RECOGNIZE this n he did? 🤪 Guess ther wer many other aspects that made it d right moment for him... his karmas wer over or something... anyway here's to all sentient beings realization n oneness with love n light 💚🎵 Happy Spring🌼🦋
@@dasi_is_dasi His realization was most likely from out of body !
Rather than asking “who am I?” it would perhaps be less presumptive to more broadly ask “what is this?”, as “who” and “I” are specifically associated from the outset with separate individuality.
You can ask whatever brings attention on itself. The words are not magic or sacred. Whatever causes the attention to look at itself then sit with that is what I can gather. Getting stuck n the phrasing would be a mistake I think.
This quote from Peter Russell relating to his TM practice touches on what I had in mind -
“When the mind is silent, when all the thoughts, feelings, perceptions, and memories with which we habitually identify have fallen away, then what remains is the essence of self, the pure subject without an object. What we then find is not a sense of ‘I am this’ or ‘I am that,’ but just ‘I am’ - (though) even to say ‘I am’ can be misleading as the word ‘I’ already has so many associations with an individual self. It might be more accurate to say there is ‘amness,’ or pure being.”
John Hannon yeh, I mix them up. Anything to bring that aware space to just sit. Even for a few seconds then something takes it. It’s so easily led away. It seems to have no say in what takes its attention. I find Rupert Spiras “am I aware?” is excellent at getting the mind to stop being engaged with some sense and acknowledge itself, staying in that is another thing.
Perfect Gentlemen
Re. Rupert Spira - I attended a couple of his meetings down in Oxford a few years ago, but find his prissy English vicar persona somewhat off-putting.
In contrast, I find non-duality pointing more accessible when expressed by a swearing Irishman (Kenneth Madden), one of whose talks I’ve linked to elsewhere in this comment section.
Yes John. I Am That I Am. The name of God, our creator, our true essence. I feel it brings "me" back to what I truly am, one with everything. 🙏
as a thought i say.....matter is a flash reflection of any thought of the moment, A person image is a reflection of the thought cosiousness that he has and all others around him has too ,the thoughts is also the events and all thoughts are in the 4th dimension as their reflection makes the image of matter that we see as an illusion. Matter is not exist as you and everyone too NOT exist , space is not exist as it is a reflection of any possible thought can be from emptyness , matter is not exist as time have only a moment after the flash reflection of the thoughts of space . no one have the free willing to produse any thought just because you are not the produser of thougts and you are not exist as all space not exist actually and all thease creativity comes from emtyness nothing , ego mind can not realise this and ego is illusion ,all thougts are multipule dimensional events of more and more dimensional 4,5,6...dimensions of thougts of the toughts withoud ending ... there is not i am but we are as one at the moment of multipule thoughts ,so all expearences of every one is one experience in the same time ,so all people and everything is one thing as matter and thoughts and experience ,all is one , and in a higher consiousness enlighment everyone can be enything and just be as shumadi system is ...etc...
great talks from shunyamurti
What is that growling in the background? for example at 10:04
A howling dog
Those are the howler monkeys that call the ashram home. Namaste, Sat Yoga Sangha
Those are the howler monkeys that call the ashram home. Namaste, Sat Yoga Sangha
@@satyogainstitute thank you, of course. 🐒namaste🌺
Sounds terrifying! I can't imagine trying to sit around in quiet meditation knowing one of those brutes might be creeping up behind you! Maybe they should find a safer place in the jungle rather than one infested with roaring, dangerous apes!!!
here and now not later
But aren't we here for the soul purpose of not knowing, in order, not to hide and stay in the mountains but in order to experience everything here, so called good and bad, consciousness itself wants to experience these things, In this plain that isn't eutopia, not be a living corpse? Then we wouldn't be here in the first place?
This was his experience, the last life in a series of many which culminated this way. No one said this is what you should do. Follow your heart, your dreams and live life to the fullest. Be yourself as you are a unique, glorious manifestation of the divine as he also was.🙏
@@stevebarnard3686 nice words my friend
Is it just me or are there a bunch of dogs barking in the background often? It's very disturbing.
Yes, I wish they would turn the dogs down a few decibels.
Many many inconsistencies in your details about Ramana's early life.
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What is this crazy creepy sound in the background?
see answer below
Thank you 🙏😊
Thank you
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