Dakota Johnson seems to be going through what happened to Robert Pattinson, where they're both good actors that got stuck in horrible franchises, but ended up making it into actually good movies instead of fading into obscurity.
The true comeback stories of the film industry. Sort of showing the world that actors tend to be as good or as bad as the films they act in, and given the right script, direction, and inspiration, can do great things.
Eh, I was under the impression that Dakota Fanning had been a respected actress since she was a child. I've never even heard about there being any backlash against her.
It goes to show that Good Directing and Writing has so much to say for an Actors performance. I am also not suprised any of these actors chose these films simply to ride the wave of the attention these movies gave. A step into the industry.
Something that stood out to me in hindsight, is the focus on Susie's (or I guess Mother Susperiorum?) breaths, especially during performances. There is very intentional focus on how she exhales. It always accompanies a sharp movement, signifying the release of energy and exertion that goes into the spells, while also foreshadowing Susie's true nature as the Mother of Sighs.
Oh. I thought of it as a nod to the nickname each mother gets. Mother Suspiriorum/ The Mother of Sighs. Also, we’re probably never gonna get it but I really would love to see Inferno and Mother of Tears get this same treatment
Eadlyn June hence the “spoiler warning”, it’s relevant to the creative process & worth noting in a review. I do wish I hadn’t known before I saw the flick, bc it wound up being massively distracting.
@@christopherlowery3797 I noticed the old man makeup, but didn't know it was Swinton. I found it very distracting...I figured that if they took the trouble to use old man makeup, it must be for a story reason. It wasn't.
I had a really different understanding of the voting scene. My interpretation is that the witches were voting for who would be their leader, Markos or Blanc. After choosing Markos as their leader, Markos plans a ceremony to transfer herself to a new body, because her current body is diseased. She intends to occupy Susie's body. That is why Blanc is asking Susie if she's really sure she wants to go through with it, and why Markos talks about Susie being gone / empty.
@@InBetweenMolecules I thought that was really clear in the movie. Markos even somewhat became an exposition dump during the ceremony straight up telling us what the ceremony was for. Not sure how he got that wrong.
I love that the meat hooks are shaped as a human rib bone. Even the way it rocks on the table shows that it has the same torsion as a rib (I’m a bioarchaeologist, so I’ve spent a lot of quality time with rib bones!). Especially poignant in light of the biblical story of Woman being created from the rib of Man.
Yeah it was a great scene, I was initially skeptical about a horror dance studio movie, but that locked me into finding out what the hell was going on.
Watching it in the theater, I kept needing to look away. But after I saw the movie I learned that the actress is a contortionist and that scene has relatively minimal stuff added in post, which makes me want to watch it again.
@@josephirizarry5195 Really? I thought actual vvitches vvere using an actual dance-spell to actually grotesquely contort the body of the real-life person, Olga.
I'm so glad this randomly popped up in my feed! Not only as a horror fan, but also as a dancer-- I've been in various forms of dance for almost 20 years-- this movie was EXCEPTIONAL. I loved seeing an interpretation of modern dance (in media not directly catering to dancers) for once not being a caricature or mockery of it. Dance can be so powerful and this movie took that and used it as a representation of magic and I freaking love that. The editing, acting, dancing, music, everything was what it needed to be, and god was I impressed by Tilda Swinton! She's phenomenal. Some of her scenes, especially as the doctor, blew me away and made my heart ache. I'm glad you guys agree because it makes me so sad that not everyone can see this piece of art for what it is-- a genuine masterpiece. Up there with Requiem for a Dream, Pan's Labyrinth, and The Green Mile as exceptional movies I've only seen once because they got to me so much.
You can definitely see a lot of the inspiration from Pina Bausch’s Tanztheater, which was seeing its development during the same period that the movie takes place in.
I think that’s a little unfair to people with genuine criticisms of the film. For example, coming from taking a college course about objects and the Holocaust, which got into very philosophical ways of looking at biographies of both people and objects and how memory plays into trauma and history and everything, I felt the Doctor’s Holocaust trauma subplot was a little hamfisted. Not because I don’t believe the director was genuinely trying to explore those themes of trauma, because I certainly do, but I think there is a tension and fight for time between the witch stuff and the Holocaust stuff, with the Holocaust stuff obviously losing out. It’s been quite some time since I’ve last seen this movie, but I remember clearly not really liking the seeming conclusions that the movie comes to about memory and trauma particularly in that context, with forgetting being an act of kindness if I remember correctly. Also, while Jay praises the movie for focusing more on the witch society, I’m actually not a big fan of that change, especially if you mirror it with the Holocaust, then shifting the focus from the stories of the victims to those of the perpetrators and the “saviors” feels pretty uncomfortable to me personally.
Nope. The film's unwavering conviction in dance as a potent, expressive medium is what made some scenes very silly indeed. The Volk dance just looked daft. The ritual dance scene at the end was genuinely hilarious
Sorry to be so late to the party but a few thoughts... 1) There is a scene where they show a portrait of Markos and Blanc with Blanc seated next to Markos, hands in her lap... when I first saw that image I thought that Markos was Blanc's mother, which would also fit the overall themes of the movie but also mirror the complicated and toxic relationship that Susie had with her mother. 2) No one spoke to the dramatic change of Susie's eye colour, from blue/green to dark brown. We saw that same motif used with Sara's character before and then after her breaking her leg and the dance performance, it suggested to me a sort of possession was occurring. 3) The actress that played Susie's mother also played death, which I think was her actual mother after Susie was instructed to kill her. I don't think it's a coincidence that both mothers (Markos and Susie's mother) are depicted as monsters, with both daughters (Susie and Blanc [if it is that Markos is indeed Blanc's mother]) struggling to enact their own autonomy. That's all I have for now! Loved this movie!
I love the take that Susies mother is the demon! Every time I see this movie or something about it I find another super cool detail like this it’s so awesome!
@@EastSide-qc5oyMarkos tells Susie she needs to "put down the woman that bore you" and it flashes back to Ohio, everything turns red and you see the shadow of Death's hand over Susie's mother as she takes her last breath
Thom Yorke singing "Unmade" over that sabbath turned it into one of my favorite scenes ever made. Strange how a sequence with so much carnage (and dancing naked girls) can be so beautiful and heartfelt.
Yeah being a bit of a fan of his music and hearing the soundtrack album before, I thought it was such a great album, and that song was one of my favourites! It was shocking when it was used in a scene like that, just a true madman's move, really loved it.
@@surroundgatari I was impressed and surprised how well the song fit. Personally I think it was due to the context of mercy-killing those three girls. If the scene had been exclusively blood and gore one might as well have used some death metal.
It’s a really great song, when I was watching the scene I was like “wow I love this song, is this Radiohead?” then I found out Thom wrote the soundtrack for the movie
I love that the director said that this film isn’t so much a remake as it is the film equivalent of when an artist covers another artists song It’s less of a remake but it’s a cover of Suspiria
This video literally helped me make a friend. Had I not watched this I wouldn't have understood it and been able to talk about this movie in depth. So thanks
Protip: Taking an "Intermission" after Chapter 4 of the film is a good place to pause and walk around in that 2.5 hour experience. Kind of nice of the film to have chapter titles actually.
I think Dakota Johnson must regret the 50 shades movies. everything else I've seen her in she's been great. her bit in social network, and her recent role in bad times at the el royale, now this
i know. Back before 50 shades she did a short lived sitcom that she was really good in and she had clear moments were she was trying to make something out of the horrible script she was given. I had been hoping for a while to see if she really had something and it was the shitty movie or if she was as bad as the script. In the end thankfully it turns out she is pretty good actress.
Maybe? But I remember reading somewhere that mcconaughey literally said yes to every script sent to him for like a decade so he had enough wealth to only do movies he wants to now so I hope that’s what she did cuz yeah she’s great
I know right? completely underrated. I loved all the performances and the direction was great. it was also original in a somewhat contrived era. too bad it didn't even make back half of its budget.
At first I was like, that's a weird looking old man. Then I realized it was someone in makeup and I assumed it would come into play later in the movie. I figured they'd de-age him or something. But then I decided I wanted to see what the guy looked like in real life and found out it was fucking Tilda Swindon. It was fine, but it took me out of it a little bit. Instead of appreciating him as a character and being immersed in the movie, I switched to appreciating Tilda's skill as an actress. It's like when you listen to a song and pay more attention to the musicianship than the song itself.
Tilda Swinton was totally convincing as the old man but I recognised her voice. Then I thought it was madam Blanc posing as the doctor and it would be a big reveal she had been impersonating the doc all this time to get in the girls’ heads. And then the movie went and subverted my expectations.
I was waiting for them to make a joke comparison of how Tilda Swinton is the Eddie Murphy of independent horror with how she plays multiple characters in elaborate make up costumes. And have a Nutty Professor Meet The Klumps trailer but with disgusting monsters instead.
Made me jump, dammit. I hate "poppets in peril" trope. Most of us are hardwired and socially conditioned to be horrified at a baby in danger. Even if it's pretty obviously a puppet. Augh
Victor Klemperer had a book: I Will Bear Witness. It was about a professor's day to day life in the 3rd reich. Might be nothing but the filmmakers might have known.
Gurdjief also taught dance as an ancient form of magik. Sacred movements across specific patterns on the floor. Some of which resemble the patterns the witches dance in this film.
hahaha don't exagerate :D It's just a reference on Dario Argento's Suspiria. They did the same last video inspired by the colors and lightning of that movie
This is the only film Ive seen that I genuinely wanted to turn off because it horrified me. Watched that final scene in a pitch black room at 2AM and it is the single scariest film experience I’ve had hahaha.
@@jakegetscake4672 It's a love it or hate it kind of deal with Twin Peaks season 3; quite slow and easily viewed as incredibly pretentious, but I loved it because it didn't fall into the trap of trying to cynically get by on nostalgia for the original show and went its own weird way. It was frankly incredible, though it ends on an equally incredible (frustrating) cliffhanger.
@@itsokay7989 Eh, it's all up for interpretation, as David Lynch and Mark Frost intended. I just see the ending as keeping up the Twin Peaks tradition of each season ending with Dale Cooper and Co. in hot water.
This was a great review. I just enjoyed hearing someone talk at length about what this movie did right. I feel like most people just complained about it.
Boreeng Vajay What the hell does that descriptor even mean? Goofy? Like, this film was a goof for Guadagnino? No. It had flaws, but I liked it way more than the OG. I saw it twice in theaters.
This review made me seek out the movie and it was truly something special. The tone, the lore, the choreography and sweet elements in it as well. It was something special. More than just a horror.
It's one of the most beautifully directed and edited films ever made. It exists on its own, like Carpenter's "The Thing" or Cronenberg's "The Fly". Truly great re-makes are rare and this is one of them.
I remember one of my friends telling me about how she chose this movie to do her essay on in her actual Performing Arts course. They had to choose a movie that heavily involved dance in some way and then do an essay on the style of dance shown in the movie and how accurate it was to real life dance. I found that pretty amusing. I think she originally chose this film as a joke thinking their teacher would say no.
This movie should've won the editing Oscar for those scenes in the mirror room alone.... But... Violence and horror is 2spooky for the Oscars I guess... A shame.
@@billtree52 Yeah the Oscars are a joke... For that, the Suspriria (and Hereditary) snobs, and Greenbook winning best picture. 🙄 (and that's just this year...)
I like them both for different reasons. The remake didn't even come close to being the absolute visual feast that the original was, but it was a much more complete story. It's a trade-off but I wouldn't call one better than the other.
DancerGirl3. You feel validated because someone else prefered it ? Forget about what other people think of things. If you like it thats all that matters. You dont need other people to make your personal opinions valid.
So much of the imagery of the dreams are pulled from female artists! From Ana Mendieta, to Gina Pane, to Francesca Woodman, to Pina Bausch, to Claude Cahun
Just finished it. Okay, so also in retrospect, there is one more scene that gains a different meaning. It is when mum says "she is my sin". And you think because it is her dream of being a dancer etc. Turns out it is pretty literal lol. And the lights going all red when she revealed at the end was fantastic!
2018's Suspiria shows the most realistic depiction of witches ever out on film. If witches are real this movie shows exactly how they would be and is fucking terrifying.
Yeah, they really created a realistic world. It kind of reminded me a little of the swedish let the right one in. In the sense thst it felt like more than a horrormovie.
@@busimagen Yes, that's another great one but on that movie shows more of the Witches' victims perspective and the time period is way back. Suspiria shows witches blended with everyone out there, doing things most of us do. You see them doing really fucked up stuff & later on they just go to a restaurant for dinner like everyone else 😆😆😆 That's what makes it disturbing, the idea that they can be anywhere and you wouldn't notice, you'll just assume it's a group of weird women 😆😆😆
i really liked how prominent breath/sighing was in this movie. especially during the dance scenes and scenes w/ susie's mother. i guess it would make sense with mother suspiriorum being the mother of sighs. anybody else notice that?
YES! Finally someone else notices that! For those not in the know, Salome was a dancer who asked for John the Baptist. She was Herod’s granddaughter. There’s so much to unpack in this film it’s outrageous
I saw this version before the original (GASP! NO!) and was simply blown away by the story and perfomances. I also didn't know Swinton played three roles (GASP! NO!). This movie is probably one of the most impressive horror films I've seen in awhile. I've watched this version over and over without ever being bored. I'm always learning sometning new with each view. Watching your review brought up the line "I believe that a group of people can organize to commit crimes and call it magic. This I believe." Totally referring to 1933 National Socialism and their creation of the Aryan myth. This horror film is one of my favorites. I went back and watched Argento's original. It was challenging. I agree with you that the remake was able to take story beats fromt the original while "fleshing" out an intense power struggle that was mirroring split post-war Germany all contributing to a complex and frightening experience. Nice review!
I saw it twice. Both viewings had multiple people walkout about halfway through. My favorite thing I've seen in the past couple years, but I see how it isn't for everyone, especially someone expecting a typical modern horror film.
@@xXYourShadowDaniXx I love slow build up horror but I'm extremely torn on the remake. The first and third act of it has some of the best horror film making I've seen but that second act is fucking insufferably BORING SLOG of pretentious euro-arthouse wank.
The original Suspiria was a beautiful looking mess of a film (like most Italian horror) a triumph of style over substance. The originals storyline was shambolic, which just created a film that looked and sounded great and that's it. I look forward to watching the remake, and by the sounds of it, its been handled with respect and has created a very different movie.
I know this comment is like 2 years old but i hope you've seen it now. I loved the originals visual style and it was a fun horror flick, but the remake is genuinely a great film.
I have to kindly disagree. The original is perfect. A very German fairytale about witches using the innocent to fuel their wealth and power. The soundtrack by The Goblins was, to me, the equivalent in sound as to the true feeling I get when I am truly afraid but I don't know why. It's rough, but the theme of a foreigner coming to bust up a bad gang, is one I have always enjoyed, especially in Westerns. Maybe a woman can relate better to the "scare" of the original. One can see the innocence of the protagonist, yet she is compelled to lose it as she comes to discover the horror of the truth behind this powerful establishment. I name the original film as one of the top ten best horror films of all time, regardless of the dubbing. It captures the feeling that even if one is totally alone, "they" know what you are thinking and where you are at all times. But then again, not everyone is scared of witches, though they should be...especially of the ones who claim to practice "white" magic. There is no such thing.
I love the way you guys edit your re:views. I feel like the cut to black, hold on silence, then resume with non sequitur to signify a topic change (and usually a minor tonal shift) is really beneficial to being able to digest these videos, and I wish more creators would use them.
Didn't notice until now that the dance floor is tiled in a swastika pattern. It's evident in the overhead shots, like at 10:12. Even the small scale, like 8:45.
These two seem to represent my taste the best out of everyone and every movie they review together is a banger. I guess I’m about to carve out two and a half hours!
loved this film soooo much acting (Tilda, Chloe, Goth and Johnson), cinematography, choreography, story, haunting score juxtaposing the horror, depth of real life post holocaust, Mother Suspiriorum kiicking ass of the imposters who harmed innocents, 'I regret what my daughters did to you" "her mercy to the three granting a peaceful death 'sweet girl, what do you ask for' and Klemperer peace, 'we need guilt and shame, doctor, but not yours' loved it, each time I view , it has more layers
I really appreciate these videos, I feel like I learn something every time. Listening to smart people talk about something they're passionate about really helps cement information in my mind. Thanks Jay and Josh!
I don't think anything in a movie has unsettled me as much as that dancing death scene. It's just so intense and graphic. For whatever reason, I really love the scene of Susie just allowing these poor women to die. There was something so intimate about it.
I loved this movie, very atmospheric and dreamlike. I watched this on Amazon prime and I always use the X-ray feature to find out who the actors are, what other movies they were in etc. I kept checking to find who was playing Dr. Klemperer, expecting to find some distinguished German actor with a long and celebrated career. Kept showing me like 2-3 headshots of Tilda Swinton and I still couldn’t figure it out until I watched some RUclips videos about this movie.😊
Sounds like it takes the right approach to doing a remake : not simply recreating the story but telling it in a new way so that the product is a separate work of art
I never had a movie stick with me like this. I watched it and was thinking about it for days. This is the movie I suggest to people and none of them ever watch it. It's slow... it's brooding, but when it hits, it hits HARD. I now watch this movie at least once a year.
It's ok to admit that the 2018 version is much more compelling. The characters are rich, the acting is amazing, the lore is well explored/explained, the dance is mesmerizing, the conclusion stays with you for days afterward. If I was stupid rich, like a billionaire, I would personally finance Luca's prequel. It's too bad we'll never get to see it. I want to know more about Mother Markos' powers and her dark, terrible history. I want to know more about the coven, especially through the war. I guess we'll never know, unless good old Elon feels the same way I do and ponies up $20M!
My very first experience of this movie was actually walking into the living room at 2 in the morning to find my brother passed out on the couch, and the whole ending Sabbath sequence had just started. At first, I was confused, but then seeing the visuals, hearing the music, it was just so striking that I had to find out what the hell was going on, and now it's one of my favorite movies.
I am SO incredibly glad you guys are talking about the remake. It was one of my favorite movies of last year and has become one of my favorite movies in GENERAL. My jaw dropped in the theater watching it, it's just SUCH a beautiful movie, and I feel like it hasn't gotten enough love. I'm happy you guys love it as much as I do.
I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. The cinematography was gorgeous, the acting was wonderful, and the music was stunning. I rarely find movies that keep me interested the entire time.
Wow, i had no idea about this movies but this is really selling me on it, it looks like an absolute trip and event to experience. Edit: Just saw the movie and god damn as expected, i took advantage of my cloudy rainy morning to watch it and it sure was a extreme experience, the final scene when Mother is explaining everything to the Doctor is way more emotional than i could had expected, i need time to finish processing all of this but what a great movie.
I liked all the individual elements of the movie, but they never fell together for me. I also originally thought what Susie's mom was the original Mater Suspiriorum since you kept having those scenes of her having difficulty breathing and rasping like in the original and it kept cutting back to her. When Madame Blanc tells Susie to kill her mother that is when the transfer takes place. But whatevs. Still a decent movie.
Her husband is German and she spends a lot of time in the German art scene, so she's probably mastered the accent through being surrounded by them, it's a form of impressionism
That makes a lot of sense actually. She sounds like she's been speaking it for a long time. While other actors in this (who're not natively german) do sound like they are just repeating lines. But that's of course to be expected. All in all pretty good though.
I second, third & fourth this opinion. Just saw it this Thursday, shit is an absolute mind-bender. I’d say this would be a great first Gaspar Noe flick to review since the plot is so (comparatively speaking) cut-and-dry and accessible (also comparatively speaking).
I really enjoyed the movie, but the shutter speed thing at the end did take me out of it. It would have been cool for a few seconds, but it went on waaaaay too long. In my opinion, for what that's worth.
Agreed. If it was required to cover up some lack in the effects, that's unfortunate. If it was a choice, I just disagree. It reminded me of all the dumb bullshit Rob Zombie does at the end of House of 1000 Corpses. Fortunately, the scene still largely worked, and the movie as a whole was incredible.
NO. No Hellraiser remakes, no more Hellraiser Movies if Doug Bradley, and Clive Barker are not involved. That's like Don Coscarelli letting someone else take over Phantasm with no Angus Scrimm, Reggie Bannister, or Michael Baldwin. Fuck with Freddie, Michael Myers, and Jason Voorhies all you want, as those series have been fucking destroyed over and over. Hellraiser 1 and 2 stand out amongst the rest of that trash, and should never be touched again.
@Carlos Saraiva you don't have to agree with opinions, people can have terrible opinions that are extremely unfounded and nonsensical. Still, especially with art (like movies, video games, books, ect), there is a lot of subjectivity. That means that people might like or dislike something for reasons not even they can explain sometimes, and it's mostly based on experiences people can relate to or not. Since everyone has had different experiences in life, it's only natural to have many people with different feelings towards different media. Doesn't mean they are wrong for liking or disliking something. Jay, for example, has a love for eeree and disturbing strange movies that he usually finds in the form of art house movies. Mike is a bigger fan of more structured movies with clarity and an emotional core. Both of them agree that The VVitch is a good movie, and Mike doesn't really have any criticisms towards it, but still, it's a movie that resonated with Jay much more, simply because it's more in line with the stuff he is a fan of. That is the beauty of subjectivity, and while you may try to explain the reasons why you are a bigger fan of one type of media than the other, it's not always possible to exactly explain why. That being said, I agree with you that there are things that aren't subjective, and to have different opinions about it is stupid. One example is the amount of people who believe the earth is flat, despite the evidence that it's not. The fact that the earth is round isn't an opinion, it's a fact. That's how science works. However, art is not like science. That's why, when talking about movies and such, there are no "wrong" opinions, as long as they are genuine, and not just played for attention or something along those lines.
Fun fact, the dance academy building is on top of a mountain next to the city i live in, when i open my bathroom window i can see it clearly up there, also the crew often came to buy shoe covers in the shop were i was working at the time.
Dakota Johnson seems to be going through what happened to Robert Pattinson, where they're both good actors that got stuck in horrible franchises, but ended up making it into actually good movies instead of fading into obscurity.
The true comeback stories of the film industry. Sort of showing the world that actors tend to be as good or as bad as the films they act in, and given the right script, direction, and inspiration, can do great things.
Eh, I was under the impression that Dakota Fanning had been a respected actress since she was a child. I've never even heard about there being any backlash against her.
@@ElvenRaptor Johnson, not Fanning.
It goes to show that Good Directing and Writing has so much to say for an Actors performance.
I am also not suprised any of these actors chose these films simply to ride the wave of the attention these movies gave. A step into the industry.
Agree. I wasn't big into Suspiria, but Dakota Johnson was great
I think it's clear now that Tilda Swinton is the best choice to play David Bowie in a biopic.
In the original script, when the girls go out around town, they were going to a surprise Bowie concert where Susie has more visions and sighs.
Will C seriously?
Jay Be its not approved by the family though so they can't use the songs lol
She played David Bowie in a David Bowie music video featuring David Bowie also as David Bowie
for real though, she even has the facial structure
I really like Josh on re:view, I feel like he works very well with Jay
Josh is the key to all of this ... if we get him working
well he introduce Jay into Dario Argento's filmography...
Yeah, Josh show a crystal clear passion for this kind of movie. He struggle to keep seat down :D
The Twin Peaks Re:View is fantastic
I like Josh with Jay and Rich with Mike but Mike and Jay ... that's a mastapiece
Something that stood out to me in hindsight, is the focus on Susie's (or I guess Mother Susperiorum?) breaths, especially during performances. There is very intentional focus on how she exhales. It always accompanies a sharp movement, signifying the release of energy and exertion that goes into the spells, while also foreshadowing Susie's true nature as the Mother of Sighs.
Jasper Torres mhmmm I noticed that too and it made it even better.
Neat thought. I tended to think of it as a throwback to the original Goblin score. I dig your interpretation though!
I think you're right there. I had the subtitles on and they focused on that each time as well. Would make sense.
Oh. I thought of it as a nod to the nickname each mother gets. Mother Suspiriorum/ The Mother of Sighs. Also, we’re probably never gonna get it but I really would love to see Inferno and Mother of Tears get this same treatment
Smart!
I saw this movie not knowing the old man was played by a woman, and the voice never gave it away. I just thought he was a high pitch german guy.
It was obviously a woman... was wondering if they were going to do a crying game switch at some point
I wish they would’ve let the review go on and not told me because I don’t think I would’ve figured it out.
Eadlyn June hence the “spoiler warning”, it’s relevant to the creative process & worth noting in a review. I do wish I hadn’t known before I saw the flick, bc it wound up being massively distracting.
I did not notice that it wasn't a man. However it was quite noticeable that he wasn't german and that was a bit distracting.
@@christopherlowery3797 I noticed the old man makeup, but didn't know it was Swinton. I found it very distracting...I figured that if they took the trouble to use old man makeup, it must be for a story reason. It wasn't.
I had a really different understanding of the voting scene. My interpretation is that the witches were voting for who would be their leader, Markos or Blanc. After choosing Markos as their leader, Markos plans a ceremony to transfer herself to a new body, because her current body is diseased. She intends to occupy Susie's body. That is why Blanc is asking Susie if she's really sure she wants to go through with it, and why Markos talks about Susie being gone / empty.
Also: Markos was fooling the witches to think she was mother Suspiriorum.
Me too
You're correct. The guys are misremembering what happened.
@@InBetweenMolecules I thought that was really clear in the movie. Markos even somewhat became an exposition dump during the ceremony straight up telling us what the ceremony was for. Not sure how he got that wrong.
Yep, actually they were trying to transfer Markos to a new body even before the voting using Patricia but it failed.
I love that the meat hooks are shaped as a human rib bone. Even the way it rocks on the table shows that it has the same torsion as a rib (I’m a bioarchaeologist, so I’ve spent a lot of quality time with rib bones!). Especially poignant in light of the biblical story of Woman being created from the rib of Man.
River Eirtree whoa...wicked
Well damn if that’s true that’s fascinating and good attention to detail.
I’ll just keep assuming you’re The real Dr Hannibal Lecter and nothing else ;)
Cheers for the in depth comment! Fascinating.
Especially _poignant!_ Lolz...ouch
Anke and Josef's initials are literally on different sides of the wall. Really cool touch.
God damn the Dance scene with the girl contorting her body is freaking terrifying oh lord
Yeah it was a great scene, I was initially skeptical about a horror dance studio movie, but that locked me into finding out what the hell was going on.
Watching it in the theater, I kept needing to look away. But after I saw the movie I learned that the actress is a contortionist and that scene has relatively minimal stuff added in post, which makes me want to watch it again.
Yeah, they did such a thorough job I had to stop the review so I wouldn't vomit.
@@josephirizarry5195 Really? I thought actual vvitches vvere using an actual dance-spell to actually grotesquely contort the body of the real-life person, Olga.
So you're saying this is NOT a documentary.
I'm so glad this randomly popped up in my feed! Not only as a horror fan, but also as a dancer-- I've been in various forms of dance for almost 20 years-- this movie was EXCEPTIONAL. I loved seeing an interpretation of modern dance (in media not directly catering to dancers) for once not being a caricature or mockery of it. Dance can be so powerful and this movie took that and used it as a representation of magic and I freaking love that. The editing, acting, dancing, music, everything was what it needed to be, and god was I impressed by Tilda Swinton! She's phenomenal. Some of her scenes, especially as the doctor, blew me away and made my heart ache. I'm glad you guys agree because it makes me so sad that not everyone can see this piece of art for what it is-- a genuine masterpiece. Up there with Requiem for a Dream, Pan's Labyrinth, and The Green Mile as exceptional movies I've only seen once because they got to me so much.
You can definitely see a lot of the inspiration from Pina Bausch’s Tanztheater, which was seeing its development during the same period that the movie takes place in.
I think that’s a little unfair to people with genuine criticisms of the film. For example, coming from taking a college course about objects and the Holocaust, which got into very philosophical ways of looking at biographies of both people and objects and how memory plays into trauma and history and everything, I felt the Doctor’s Holocaust trauma subplot was a little hamfisted. Not because I don’t believe the director was genuinely trying to explore those themes of trauma, because I certainly do, but I think there is a tension and fight for time between the witch stuff and the Holocaust stuff, with the Holocaust stuff obviously losing out.
It’s been quite some time since I’ve last seen this movie, but I remember clearly not really liking the seeming conclusions that the movie comes to about memory and trauma particularly in that context, with forgetting being an act of kindness if I remember correctly. Also, while Jay praises the movie for focusing more on the witch society, I’m actually not a big fan of that change, especially if you mirror it with the Holocaust, then shifting the focus from the stories of the victims to those of the perpetrators and the “saviors” feels pretty uncomfortable to me personally.
Nope. The film's unwavering conviction in dance as a potent, expressive medium is what made some scenes very silly indeed. The Volk dance just looked daft. The ritual dance scene at the end was genuinely hilarious
- "Oh my god that woman's been turned into a pretzel."
- Video ends
- Immediately gets a video ad for pretzels
No you didn't
🤣
Sorry to be so late to the party but a few thoughts...
1) There is a scene where they show a portrait of Markos and Blanc with Blanc seated next to Markos, hands in her lap... when I first saw that image I thought that Markos was Blanc's mother, which would also fit the overall themes of the movie but also mirror the complicated and toxic relationship that Susie had with her mother.
2) No one spoke to the dramatic change of Susie's eye colour, from blue/green to dark brown. We saw that same motif used with Sara's character before and then after her breaking her leg and the dance performance, it suggested to me a sort of possession was occurring.
3) The actress that played Susie's mother also played death, which I think was her actual mother after Susie was instructed to kill her. I don't think it's a coincidence that both mothers (Markos and Susie's mother) are depicted as monsters, with both daughters (Susie and Blanc [if it is that Markos is indeed Blanc's mother]) struggling to enact their own autonomy.
That's all I have for now! Loved this movie!
great theory!
Yes great theory
I love the take that Susies mother is the demon! Every time I see this movie or something about it I find another super cool detail like this it’s so awesome!
Who instructs Susie to kill her mother and when was that shown in the movie? I don’t remember her being instructed nor do I remember her killing her.
@@EastSide-qc5oyMarkos tells Susie she needs to "put down the woman that bore you" and it flashes back to Ohio, everything turns red and you see the shadow of Death's hand over Susie's mother as she takes her last breath
Thom Yorke singing "Unmade" over that sabbath turned it into one of my favorite scenes ever made. Strange how a sequence with so much carnage (and dancing naked girls) can be so beautiful and heartfelt.
Yeah being a bit of a fan of his music and hearing the soundtrack album before, I thought it was such a great album, and that song was one of my favourites! It was shocking when it was used in a scene like that, just a true madman's move, really loved it.
@@surroundgatari I was impressed and surprised how well the song fit. Personally I think it was due to the context of mercy-killing those three girls. If the scene had been exclusively blood and gore one might as well have used some death metal.
It’s a really great song, when I was watching the scene I was like “wow I love this song, is this Radiohead?” then I found out Thom wrote the soundtrack for the movie
This soundtrack is so so good, I still haven't seen the film but a few of the tracks I listen to regularly.
I love that the director said that this film isn’t so much a remake as it is the film equivalent of when an artist covers another artists song
It’s less of a remake but it’s a cover of Suspiria
I want more covers by this man.
Finally, something to actually watch while I do absolutely nothing.
Is this JoJo refference?
Please help I have so much work to do
We’re all completely lost
I rather do nothing and stare the walls instead of this.
This is how I currently feel and probably the rest of y’all too, happy April 2020
i hope there's eventually a movie where every character is played by Tilda Swinton
Tilda Swinton for The Nutty Professor remake please.
Sounds like a spiritual sequel to Being John Malkovich. I’d love to see that.
There already is. But she's so good no one has figured it out yet.
She already came close in Orlando. There are a few characters she did not play, but those characters had very short appearances and no deep meaning.
Last and First Men is kind of what you're looking for.
The "shutter speed" thing at the end is a direct reference to "Haxan", a Swedish 1922 documentary that (necessarily) uses that exact aesthetic.
I honestly didn’t know that guy was Tilda Swinton, just blew my mind honestly
Same.
I thought it was an old man. I never thought otherwise whilst watching it.
Schmuck.
Yeap, same!
It was so obviously a woman. Sounded nothing like an old man
Oh cool, they're reviewing Thom Yorke albums now.
/woosh
feeling a light 10 on this.
Is a review of Gasper Noe’s Climax next? Dance horror.....a new genre?
Fucking loved Suspirium.
@@Dethmaster64 - SITION! Did you give this album a listen?
14:04
Jay: Also played by tilda swinton
Me: Hahaha good one
Me ten seconds later: Wait what
She also played Mother Markos.
Rich Evans didn't play mother Markos??!
Or is Tilda Swinton playing Rich Evans?
@@stevenflores5988 haha nice try Rian Johnson, you won't subvert my expectations anymore!
Rich Evans was the mastermind afrer all.
I’m still convinced it was Rich Evans playing Tilda Swinton playing Mother Markos even more now
it wasn't Elton John?
This video literally helped me make a friend. Had I not watched this I wouldn't have understood it and been able to talk about this movie in depth. So thanks
Aww, that sounds cute.
This re:View would be even better if all the nudie bits have been blurred out by a pic of Rich Evans' face
sure would've helped me bust a nut.
It would have been guaranteed if mike was the editor lol
I think you miss-typed “sexier”.
But Rich Evans is too erotic for RUclips.
Protip: Taking an "Intermission" after Chapter 4 of the film is a good place to pause and walk around in that 2.5 hour experience. Kind of nice of the film to have chapter titles actually.
I think Dakota Johnson must regret the 50 shades movies. everything else I've seen her in she's been great. her bit in social network, and her recent role in bad times at the el royale, now this
Stephen Grigg I dont think so. Made her money now can choose projects like Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart
i know. Back before 50 shades she did a short lived sitcom that she was really good in and she had clear moments were she was trying to make something out of the horrible script she was given. I had been hoping for a while to see if she really had something and it was the shitty movie or if she was as bad as the script. In the end thankfully it turns out she is pretty good actress.
Maybe? But I remember reading somewhere that mcconaughey literally said yes to every script sent to him for like a decade so he had enough wealth to only do movies he wants to now so I hope that’s what she did cuz yeah she’s great
she seems to have a natural talent from what I've seen.
I know right? completely underrated. I loved all the performances and the direction was great. it was also original in a somewhat contrived era. too bad it didn't even make back half of its budget.
I had no idea that was Tilda Swinton. The way he walked and looked was enough to make me not even think about the voice. H
That's a good question. _Why?_
@@EggBastion To not have any male actors, of course.
At first I was like, that's a weird looking old man. Then I realized it was someone in makeup and I assumed it would come into play later in the movie. I figured they'd de-age him or something. But then I decided I wanted to see what the guy looked like in real life and found out it was fucking Tilda Swindon.
It was fine, but it took me out of it a little bit. Instead of appreciating him as a character and being immersed in the movie, I switched to appreciating Tilda's skill as an actress. It's like when you listen to a song and pay more attention to the musicianship than the song itself.
@@canstermeat8171 I mean, there are male actors....
Tilda Swinton was totally convincing as the old man but I recognised her voice. Then I thought it was madam Blanc posing as the doctor and it would be a big reveal she had been impersonating the doc all this time to get in the girls’ heads. And then the movie went and subverted my expectations.
I was waiting for them to make a joke comparison of how Tilda Swinton is the Eddie Murphy of independent horror with how she plays multiple characters in elaborate make up costumes. And have a Nutty Professor Meet The Klumps trailer but with disgusting monsters instead.
Howled with laughter at the clip of the baby being thrown off the bridge.
its a natural response for stress relief...its ok.
Made me jump, dammit. I hate "poppets in peril" trope. Most of us are hardwired and socially conditioned to be horrified at a baby in danger.
Even if it's pretty obviously a puppet. Augh
"Woof"
He threw a baby? I thought he was throwing a bunch of objects
@@compa6251 she
Victor Klemperer had a book: I Will Bear Witness. It was about a professor's day to day life in the 3rd reich. Might be nothing but the filmmakers might have known.
Dancing has historically been associated with witches casting spells. They've just been a little more subtle about it until now.
Gurdjief also taught dance as an ancient form of magik. Sacred movements across specific patterns on the floor. Some of which resemble the patterns the witches dance in this film.
@Boreeng Vajay What you should be asking yourself is "if it does not work, why have people been doing it for thousands of years?"
Didn’t the craft have a bit of that
Geometry magic like how they put down the aluminum tape lines in specific patterns has to do with alchemy too
Is this a remake of your last Suspiria re:view?
Yes
It's like poetry
It rhymes
Not all poetry has to rhyme you PHILISTINE
Is this Suspiria re:view replacing the old Suspiria re:view?
It’s replacing it
"A dancing movie, I wanna see dancing...Oh my God that woman's being turned into a pretzel!" 🤣 Too funny!
I love the lighting cast on the two of you. So subtle, yet ground breaking.
It's perfect in its simplicity, but complex in its subtlety.
@@Tychoxi lol I bet you're proud of yourself for that comment
@catsinthepluralform how does that affect my comment exactly?
hahaha don't exagerate :D
It's just a reference on Dario Argento's Suspiria. They did the same last video inspired by the colors and lightning of that movie
This is the only film Ive seen that I genuinely wanted to turn off because it horrified me. Watched that final scene in a pitch black room at 2AM and it is the single scariest film experience I’ve had hahaha.
Sweet! I can't wait to watch it
I felt the same way in the last 30 minutes of Neon Demon. Like physically difficult to watch.
But the real question is: when's the episode on Twin Peaks:The Return 😢 ?
You mean the re:turn?
@@Sifeus Are you re:ally gonna start this
PunkSoupBlueWood is that show good I’ve never watched it
@@jakegetscake4672 It's a love it or hate it kind of deal with Twin Peaks season 3; quite slow and easily viewed as incredibly pretentious, but I loved it because it didn't fall into the trap of trying to cynically get by on nostalgia for the original show and went its own weird way. It was frankly incredible, though it ends on an equally incredible (frustrating) cliffhanger.
@@itsokay7989 Eh, it's all up for interpretation, as David Lynch and Mark Frost intended. I just see the ending as keeping up the Twin Peaks tradition of each season ending with Dale Cooper and Co. in hot water.
This was a great review. I just enjoyed hearing someone talk at length about what this movie did right. I feel like most people just complained about it.
Agreed. I'm excited to see it now
Boreeng Vajay What the hell does that descriptor even mean? Goofy? Like, this film was a goof for Guadagnino? No. It had flaws, but I liked it way more than the OG. I saw it twice in theaters.
@Boreeng Vajay *slow clap*... *Thousands of others join*... An applause for the ages for your last comment.
This review made me seek out the movie and it was truly something special. The tone, the lore, the choreography and sweet elements in it as well. It was something special. More than just a horror.
It's one of the most beautifully directed and edited films ever made. It exists on its own, like Carpenter's "The Thing" or Cronenberg's "The Fly". Truly great re-makes are rare and this is one of them.
I remember one of my friends telling me about how she chose this movie to do her essay on in her actual Performing Arts course. They had to choose a movie that heavily involved dance in some way and then do an essay on the style of dance shown in the movie and how accurate it was to real life dance. I found that pretty amusing. I think she originally chose this film as a joke thinking their teacher would say no.
I'm re:ally excited to watch this re:view of the re:make of Suspiria.
@Spit Dragon What a great joke! Do you want a re:ward?
I re:ally like this comment
@William Burns thats funny because i re:member it from last time
Re:re: Please stop it.
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This movie should've won the editing Oscar for those scenes in the mirror room alone.... But... Violence and horror is 2spooky for the Oscars I guess... A shame.
Graceful dance quick hand chop->watching olga take that force in the other room. Brutal but very well done
Everybody was too busy jacking off Bohemian Rhapsody, which had shit editing and pacing, but somehow got an oscar
@@billtree52 Yeah the Oscars are a joke... For that, the Suspriria (and Hereditary) snobs, and Greenbook winning best picture. 🙄 (and that's just this year...)
Well, no movie is as good as "Black Panther."
Horror is treated so unfairly at the Oscars, no news here
I didn’t know Tilda Swinton played that old man until you mentioned it in this video. That was how good the makeup was
She also played Mother Markos.
I really hope the studios give this director the oportunity to "remake", actually make a new version, of anything he chooses
Same. He knows how to handle it.
Jay liking the remake more- I feel so validated.
dancergirl...that reminds me of something
Srsly who prefers the original after this masterpiece
I like them both for different reasons. The remake didn't even come close to being the absolute visual feast that the original was, but it was a much more complete story. It's a trade-off but I wouldn't call one better than the other.
DancerGirl3.
You feel validated because someone else prefered it ? Forget about what other people think of things. If you like it thats all that matters. You dont need other people to make your personal opinions valid.
@@Tony-1971 Some people like to be sheep, more meat for the wolves.
so happy you guys loved it! i was totally obsessed for a week after i saw it in theatres. def gonna pick up the blu ray and revisit
I swear red lettermedia stuff is like drugs for me
Readily available and of dubious health benefits?
So much of the imagery of the dreams are pulled from female artists! From Ana Mendieta, to Gina Pane, to Francesca Woodman, to Pina Bausch, to Claude Cahun
Thom Yorke nailed the soundtrack for this film, it’s exceptional.
What did you expect? The man is a genius.
I thought it was terrible, it's unnoticeable unless it sticks out like a sore thumb (the climax ending)
Calm down, it's good but not _that_ great...
It’s magic, literally
Jonny's soundtracks are exceptional. This one is good but there are moments I'm not too crazy about.
Just finished it. Okay, so also in retrospect, there is one more scene that gains a different meaning. It is when mum says "she is my sin". And you think because it is her dream of being a dancer etc. Turns out it is pretty literal lol. And the lights going all red when she revealed at the end was fantastic!
2018's Suspiria shows the most realistic depiction of witches ever out on film. If witches are real this movie shows exactly how they would be and is fucking terrifying.
Yeah, they really created a realistic world. It kind of reminded me a little of the swedish let the right one in. In the sense thst it felt like more than a horrormovie.
@@busimagen Yes, that's another great one but on that movie shows more of the Witches' victims perspective and the time period is way back. Suspiria shows witches blended with everyone out there, doing things most of us do. You see them doing really fucked up stuff & later on they just go to a restaurant for dinner like everyone else 😆😆😆 That's what makes it disturbing, the idea that they can be anywhere and you wouldn't notice, you'll just assume it's a group of weird women 😆😆😆
"The most realistic magical work of fiction."
Get a grip, you clown.
i really liked how prominent breath/sighing was in this movie. especially during the dance scenes and scenes w/ susie's mother. i guess it would make sense with mother suspiriorum being the mother of sighs. anybody else notice that?
The editing on this video is worth applauding. That ending tho
The framerate makes it look like cheap shot on video
Patricia having a playbill for Salome in her diary has HUGE significance too
YES! Finally someone else notices that! For those not in the know, Salome was a dancer who asked for John the Baptist. She was Herod’s granddaughter. There’s so much to unpack in this film it’s outrageous
Damn. I didn’t know that the old guy was Tilda Swinton. The voice didn’t give it away at all to me. 🤯
I saw this version before the original (GASP! NO!) and was simply blown away by the story and perfomances. I also didn't know Swinton played three roles (GASP! NO!). This movie is probably one of the most impressive horror films I've seen in awhile. I've watched this version over and over without ever being bored. I'm always learning sometning new with each view. Watching your review brought up the line "I believe that a group of people can organize to commit crimes and call it magic. This I believe." Totally referring to 1933 National Socialism and their creation of the Aryan myth. This horror film is one of my favorites. I went back and watched Argento's original. It was challenging. I agree with you that the remake was able to take story beats fromt the original while "fleshing" out an intense power struggle that was mirroring split post-war Germany all contributing to a complex and frightening experience. Nice review!
The entire audience at my screening hated this movie but I thought it was the best cinematic experience I’ve had in a theater since Blade Runner 2049.
I saw it twice. Both viewings had multiple people walkout about halfway through. My favorite thing I've seen in the past couple years, but I see how it isn't for everyone, especially someone expecting a typical modern horror film.
@@Garffy98 Agreed, definitely a movie for people who like patient, slow build up horror.
@@xXYourShadowDaniXx I love slow build up horror but I'm extremely torn on the remake. The first and third act of it has some of the best horror film making I've seen but that second act is fucking insufferably BORING SLOG of pretentious euro-arthouse wank.
I thought it was a painfully straight forward remake
Amen
Please do a Possession and/or Event Horizon re:view. Creepy Sam Neill is the best!
They did it
@@gwh3013 huh which one
Is this the remake of REM LAZAR?
Your children have touched me. And I have touched them - Rem Lazar
@@jdunnatl Really? Is that not what we all do, when watching any of their videos?
Is remlazar replacing josh
OH so that blackened figure was Rem Lazar appearing in the "mind-blowing" ;) climax of Suspiria 2018!
I’m so proud of this community.
This might be my favorite of all the re:Views. Revisited it many a time. Such a great discussion.
I want more videos of Jay and Josh talking about obscure flicks, its fun.
Same. This shit ain’t obscure, though
I suppose, but I mean more niche than something that usually gets on half in the bag @@christopherlowery3797
Okay, Jay... after showing that from Mother of Tears, you GOTTA bring that up.
The original Suspiria was a beautiful looking mess of a film (like most Italian horror) a triumph of style over substance. The originals storyline was shambolic, which just created a film that looked and sounded great and that's it. I look forward to watching the remake, and by the sounds of it, its been handled with respect and has created a very different movie.
I completely agree! Have you seen it yet?
The remake is also style over substance but boring and pretentious
I know this comment is like 2 years old but i hope you've seen it now. I loved the originals visual style and it was a fun horror flick, but the remake is genuinely a great film.
@@adamgates1142 pretentious is the most overused word in film criticism.
I have to kindly disagree. The original is perfect. A very German fairytale about witches using the innocent to fuel their wealth and power. The soundtrack by The Goblins was, to me, the equivalent in sound as to the true feeling I get when I am truly afraid but I don't know why. It's rough, but the theme of a foreigner coming to bust up a bad gang, is one I have always enjoyed, especially in Westerns. Maybe a woman can relate better to the "scare" of the original. One can see the innocence of the protagonist, yet she is compelled to lose it as she comes to discover the horror of the truth behind this powerful establishment. I name the original film as one of the top ten best horror films of all time, regardless of the dubbing. It captures the feeling that even if one is totally alone, "they" know what you are thinking and where you are at all times. But then again, not everyone is scared of witches, though they should be...especially of the ones who claim to practice "white" magic. There is no such thing.
I love the way you guys edit your re:views. I feel like the cut to black, hold on silence, then resume with non sequitur to signify a topic change (and usually a minor tonal shift) is really beneficial to being able to digest these videos, and I wish more creators would use them.
They're also ad breaks if you're a mobile/sucker lol
I was waiting for this review. I’m so damned pleased you guys liked this film as it’s bloody fantastic.
Didn't notice until now that the dance floor is tiled in a swastika pattern. It's evident in the overhead shots, like at 10:12. Even the small scale, like 8:45.
These two seem to represent my taste the best out of everyone and every movie they review together is a banger. I guess I’m about to carve out two and a half hours!
So far, all the movies I've seen that Jay recommended were up my alley. Which makes me wonder about the greasy strangler 😂
Wait... Madame Blanc wasn't played by Thom Yorke?
loved this film soooo much
acting (Tilda, Chloe, Goth and Johnson), cinematography, choreography, story, haunting score juxtaposing the horror, depth of real life post holocaust, Mother Suspiriorum kiicking ass of the imposters who harmed innocents, 'I regret what my daughters did to you" "her mercy to the three granting a peaceful death 'sweet girl, what do you ask for' and Klemperer peace, 'we need guilt and shame, doctor, but not yours'
loved it, each time I view , it has more layers
I really appreciate these videos, I feel like I learn something every time. Listening to smart people talk about something they're passionate about really helps cement information in my mind. Thanks Jay and Josh!
Meryl Streep, Tilda Swinton and Daniel Day Lewis need to be in a movie together where they each play one another.
I don't think anything in a movie has unsettled me as much as that dancing death scene. It's just so intense and graphic. For whatever reason, I really love the scene of Susie just allowing these poor women to die. There was something so intimate about it.
I loved this movie, very atmospheric and dreamlike. I watched this on Amazon prime and I always use the X-ray feature to find out who the actors are, what other movies they were in etc. I kept checking to find who was playing Dr. Klemperer, expecting to find some distinguished German actor with a long and celebrated career. Kept showing me like 2-3 headshots of Tilda Swinton and I still couldn’t figure it out until I watched some RUclips videos about this movie.😊
Suspiria 2018 feels less like a remake and more like a different adaptation of the same source material
Sounds like it takes the right approach to doing a remake : not simply recreating the story but telling it in a new way so that the product is a separate work of art
Not only new but improved, as well. A remake should only be made with the eyes of making an original story better. I wish Disney could hear this.
Thank you for replaying that absolutely traumatizing scene for me. I loved that haha
I never had a movie stick with me like this. I watched it and was thinking about it for days. This is the movie I suggest to people and none of them ever watch it. It's slow... it's brooding, but when it hits, it hits HARD. I now watch this movie at least once a year.
It's ok to admit that the 2018 version is much more compelling. The characters are rich, the acting is amazing, the lore is well explored/explained, the dance is mesmerizing, the conclusion stays with you for days afterward. If I was stupid rich, like a billionaire, I would personally finance Luca's prequel. It's too bad we'll never get to see it. I want to know more about Mother Markos' powers and her dark, terrible history. I want to know more about the coven, especially through the war. I guess we'll never know, unless good old Elon feels the same way I do and ponies up $20M!
i’m glad you guys had positive opinions of both films. they’re both so fantastic. thank you so much for reviewing them back to back.
Goddammit, reliving that contortion scene and leg snap scene again is rough xD
I was literally transfixed throughout every frame and every bit of dialogue
Yeah. Just saw it today and it doesnt feel 2.5 hours at all. Its really well done.
My very first experience of this movie was actually walking into the living room at 2 in the morning to find my brother passed out on the couch, and the whole ending Sabbath sequence had just started. At first, I was confused, but then seeing the visuals, hearing the music, it was just so striking that I had to find out what the hell was going on, and now it's one of my favorite movies.
I am SO incredibly glad you guys are talking about the remake. It was one of my favorite movies of last year and has become one of my favorite movies in GENERAL. My jaw dropped in the theater watching it, it's just SUCH a beautiful movie, and I feel like it hasn't gotten enough love. I'm happy you guys love it as much as I do.
@Climax DeAbsurdum Yeah, I was lucky that I was able to watch it in theaters! It was definitely an experience.
Not many horror movies make me feel beautiful but this one definitely does, and the experience of watching it is something I have never had before.
I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. The cinematography was gorgeous, the acting was wonderful, and the music was stunning. I rarely find movies that keep me interested the entire time.
Wow, i had no idea about this movies but this is really selling me on it, it looks like an absolute trip and event to experience.
Edit: Just saw the movie and god damn as expected, i took advantage of my cloudy rainy morning to watch it and it sure was a extreme experience, the final scene when Mother is explaining everything to the Doctor is way more emotional than i could had expected, i need time to finish processing all of this but what a great movie.
Let us know what you think of it!
This episode is really exceptional in its editing and commentary. It really should be nominated for an award of some kind.
I liked all the individual elements of the movie, but they never fell together for me. I also originally thought what Susie's mom was the original Mater Suspiriorum since you kept having those scenes of her having difficulty breathing and rasping like in the original and it kept cutting back to her. When Madame Blanc tells Susie to kill her mother that is when the transfer takes place. But whatevs. Still a decent movie.
This movie is a modern horror masterpiece.
Just want to mention that Tilda Swintons german sounds very good. Almost like she is fluent. Doesn anyone know more?
Her husband is German and she spends a lot of time in the German art scene, so she's probably mastered the accent through being surrounded by them, it's a form of impressionism
Her partner for 15 years is German, so she may have picked up some from him, but beyond that I don't know.
That makes a lot of sense actually. She sounds like she's been speaking it for a long time. While other actors in this (who're not natively german) do sound like they are just repeating lines. But that's of course to be expected. All in all pretty good though.
I enjoyed this video so much! thank u guys!!
You guys really need to review Climax 2018
That’s not the Noe film I’d choose first for them to do. I’d prefer Enter the Void. Either would be great though.
I second, third & fourth this opinion. Just saw it this Thursday, shit is an absolute mind-bender. I’d say this would be a great first Gaspar Noe flick to review since the plot is so (comparatively speaking) cut-and-dry and accessible (also comparatively speaking).
I love Noe movies and I wanted to like Climax . Maybe I need to try again
I really enjoyed the movie, but the shutter speed thing at the end did take me out of it. It would have been cool for a few seconds, but it went on waaaaay too long. In my opinion, for what that's worth.
Agreed. If it was required to cover up some lack in the effects, that's unfortunate. If it was a choice, I just disagree. It reminded me of all the dumb bullshit Rob Zombie does at the end of House of 1000 Corpses. Fortunately, the scene still largely worked, and the movie as a whole was incredible.
I re:Gret my life choices
They mention the constant RAIN --- but miss the most obvious allegory - MOTHER of TEARS -- rain rain rain.
God, the dancing in this movie was fucking mesmerizing.
so, when do we get a POSSESSION review?
Yes 🙌
I am in the belief that Tilda Swindon should play Pinhead in a Hellraiser remake
NO. No Hellraiser remakes, no more Hellraiser Movies if Doug Bradley, and Clive Barker are not involved.
That's like Don Coscarelli letting someone else take over Phantasm with no Angus Scrimm, Reggie Bannister, or Michael Baldwin.
Fuck with Freddie, Michael Myers, and Jason Voorhies all you want, as those series have been fucking destroyed over and over. Hellraiser 1 and 2 stand out amongst the rest of that trash, and should never be touched again.
I know you have to do popular movie reviews for Half in the Bag, but I'm so excited when you discuss more obscure movies that you clearly love.
Dear lord, Tilda Swinton can play anything and anyone?!
Goddamn, I think I could hear Jay talk about almost anything. He just sounds so intelligent. He’s my favorite RLM member.
and I dont want to be a thot here but like
HES SO GOOD LOOKING WHAT THE HECK--
@Carlos Saraiva idk to me it sounds more like he has different opinions about things, and opinions can't really be wrong. Don't you think?
@Carlos Saraiva you don't have to agree with opinions, people can have terrible opinions that are extremely unfounded and nonsensical. Still, especially with art (like movies, video games, books, ect), there is a lot of subjectivity. That means that people might like or dislike something for reasons not even they can explain sometimes, and it's mostly based on experiences people can relate to or not. Since everyone has had different experiences in life, it's only natural to have many people with different feelings towards different media. Doesn't mean they are wrong for liking or disliking something.
Jay, for example, has a love for eeree and disturbing strange movies that he usually finds in the form of art house movies. Mike is a bigger fan of more structured movies with clarity and an emotional core. Both of them agree that The VVitch is a good movie, and Mike doesn't really have any criticisms towards it, but still, it's a movie that resonated with Jay much more, simply because it's more in line with the stuff he is a fan of. That is the beauty of subjectivity, and while you may try to explain the reasons why you are a bigger fan of one type of media than the other, it's not always possible to exactly explain why.
That being said, I agree with you that there are things that aren't subjective, and to have different opinions about it is stupid. One example is the amount of people who believe the earth is flat, despite the evidence that it's not. The fact that the earth is round isn't an opinion, it's a fact. That's how science works. However, art is not like science. That's why, when talking about movies and such, there are no "wrong" opinions, as long as they are genuine, and not just played for attention or something along those lines.
This is my favorite episode of undercover boss!
Fun fact, the dance academy building is on top of a mountain next to the city i live in, when i open my bathroom window i can see it clearly up there, also the crew often came to buy shoe covers in the shop were i was working at the time.