The format of the beta and VHS systems are totally different to one another - you cannot play a beta recorded tape on a VHS machine and vice versa. Contrary to what you stated, I would suggest that the movie Goldfinger was indeed recorded on half inch beta tape, but recorded on the VHS machine and played back on the VHS machine
@@juliabrnssr Yes you're right ON BOTH COUNTS, but in the video at 5:40 you say "so I've (re)wound the tape to the beginning, let's see what's actually on this thing" which suggests you don't know. But I think you do, because you, or someone you know, already taped over the original content that was on the videotape after it was transferred from the Beta cassette to the VHS cassette, probably after finding out that the formats ARE NOT COMPATIBLE
@@warrenmacdonald1372 A very good point. Main reason I said that is because I had recorded a lot of things on that tape. Wasn't sure if it was gonna be Breath of the Wild, Goldfinger 64, Infinity Train or something else. Just to be clear, all of this was recorded with a VCR. I took the spool out of the Blank Beta Max and pressed record. Only after making this video, as well as making part 2 did I find this isn't always the case. I have a few people that claimed to have gotten this to work with a Raw Beta Signal. One person even offered a theory. If you where to play a NTSC Beta on a PAL VCR you would get something. All the same, I would love to do a part 3 where I try the same thing with a Beta player. They are just hard to find and expensive where I am.
@@juliabrnssr Thanks for clearing things up. Just a note: VCR ( Video Cassette Recorder ) is a blanket term used for almost any VTR ( Video Tape Recorder ) that uses a cassette to house the videotape, so Beta and VHS are both VCR's. Beta is a standard introduced by SONY and licensed to Sears, Sanyo, Toshiba and Zenith; and VHS ( Video Home System ) was introduced by JVC and licensed to the many manufacturers who sold VHS machines.
Super helpful! I have a client of mine that asked me to convert her VHS tapes and in the bottom of her stack was a Betamax. I use a VCR and I had a feeling it wouldn't work in there. She'll be so happy I was able to get that tape converted it has her husband's grandmother on it. She wants to show her daughter to be able to meet her because she passed away before she was born. Stay positive people!
Let me know if it works. I've heard some say you can only get distorted sound from this process, others say it works fine but with low quality, and still others tell me if you have the right VCR it will play beta just fine. I do want to note though the the footage on the Beta was recorded using a VCR, so that may change a few things.
@@juliabrnssr This is TheJakeThatVlogs from my busienss account. I intend to try this method this weekend on a client's betamax. I'll be sure to let you know how it comes out and what troubles I run into.
This is clearly fake. There's no way that a Beta recording would play on a VHS machine, since the way the signal is recorded onto the tape is different and incompatible with VHS machines. You can get sound, but absolutely no signs of a video would play.
It's not fake, you see the footage recorded onto the Beta tape was done through a VCR. That is why there was sound an picture. The main purpose of the video was to see if anyone with a proper Beta could do it. Odd thing is there is one person in the comments that claimed they got it to work, even though the picture was blurry. I do also want to mention I did a follow up video to this (I found a real beta tape for cheap) . ruclips.net/video/SZDN-TpO-p8/видео.html
You keep saying “recorded on VCR” which could mean any format: Beta, VHS, Umatic, Video8. Please be more specific Also it’s TAPE not “film” as you claimed
No, it's no fake. VHS and beta uses different tapespeeds and so the videoangle on the tape is different. But the signal is nearly the same. When you're able to modify the tapespeed to the same amount vhs uses, you could play the tape with a reduced quality. But the problem is, that the syncing on vhs has not the range to come down to the beta's specs. But on the end of beta, there was a try to make a fusion of both systems! Some VHS Machines of that time could really play beta formated tapes. The sycing scematics used in this machines are the same as on a beta machine and can reach the correct tape and headdrum speed. When you look at the video footage, you see the player starting with VHS Specs and goes down to beta Specs after 2 seconds.
as I own both beta and vhs machines that work I can guarantee that this works because you can also put a Betamax signal on a vhs tape and play it through a Betamax player but you would need a special tool to get the correct magnetism levels about the same as a U-Matic machine the machine I use is a Sanyo VTC-5000
You obviously made a recording onto that Beta tape using the VHS VCR. Beta is a completely different format, not just a different cassette shell. However they both use a 1/2" oxide tape. If you were to play a Beta recording on a VHS VCR, you would just get horizontal lines and incorrectly-pitched audio.
I was hoping in doing this I would be able to find someone else who could do the experiment proper. This is the 4th Beta Tape I've ever seen in my life, so I did my best.
There seems to be some confusion. Betamax and VHS both used half inch tape, but that does not mean they are compatible. If you take the tape from a Betamax cassette and put it inside a VHS shell you will generally be able to record on it on a VHS machine, and vice versa. This is because the tape itself was very similar and sometimes even identical. However VHS and Betamax used different methods of recording, so a recording made on a VHS machine will NOT playback on a Betamax machine, and a recording made on a Betamax machine will NOT playback on a VHS machine, the two recording methods were incompatible with each other. In the case of playing a tape recorded on Betamax machine on a VHS machine what you tend to get is weird horizontal lines, although you may be able to hear distorted audio. Another problem is the way the two formats dealt with the beginning and end of the tapes, VHS used a clear leader tape through which a light was shone. This light was picked up by an optical sensor so the machine knew when you had reached the beginning or end of the tape. Betamax uses a foil leader to identify the beginning and end of the tapes so doing what you did means the VHS machine cannot see through that foil leader, hence it cannot identify when the end of the tape is reached and as a result auto stop wont work, and you risk stretching or even breaking the tape. You CAN splice the clear leader onto the Betamax tape using a VHS splicing kit and the clear leader from another VHS cassette. So basically you CANNOT record on a Betamax cassette in a Betamax VCR then transfer the tape to a VHS cassette, put it into a VHS VCR and have it play properly because the way the two formats record is different.
That's what everyone tells me, but I ran into one person that was able to get blurry picture from doing this so I don't know. I was curious about what would happen if I played a VHS tape in a Beta Machine, that was going to be my third experiment. I later re-did this experiment with a "Pure" Betamax ruclips.net/video/SZDN-TpO-p8/видео.html As for the rewinding of each tape, found out that one by accident when the VCR didn't stop. I know there are 3 types of Beta tapes. Wonder if the same results would happen with the other 2?
I knew the 2 formats were incompatible, but what I did NOT know was how Beta treats the end of tape. So it is the same as the auto channel change on 8 track carts. Seems like just something else that needed cleaning after many hours of use.
Interesting, you are the second comment saying they wanted to see their parents wedding. After following the steps they say it worked but the picture and audio where distorted. I think your best bet would be to get a Beta Player. It may be more expensive then a VCR but it will work for sure. Plus this how to is more intended fro those that already have a VCR.
I have a beta machine that works inconsistently, so I tested a beta tape that I know played. When I switched it to the VHS shell, only the audio would play and the video was raster and no figures could be seen. Do you know what the problem could be? Not going to try on family videos until I figure out why the video did not play. Tried a good VHS on the VHS machine and it played perfect.
I'll try to keep it short. The footage in this video was recorded using a VHS signal which is why it plays fine. As I have been reminded time and time again sound is the most you can get out of it. However there is one thing I have found. If your Beta was recorded in the PAL format rather than NTSC it should play fine. I later redid the same experiment with a True NTCS beta and these where the results. ruclips.net/video/SZDN-TpO-p8/видео.html
@@juliabrnssr No, PAL, SECAM or NTSC makes no difference, Betamax and VHS are completely and utterly incompatible apart from baseband linear audio. Different head wrap, azimuth angles, modulation frequencies, control tracks.... Need I go on....
@@musmodtos I was wondering if anyone caught onto this. I think even the video head drum speed is different. One other thing that is the same is the width of the tape. They even used the same width for those later reel to reel "VTR"s for consumers from the late 70s. I had one that was a "2 head" and sadly, one of the heads were bad.
Whatever tape you use, as long it is half inch and not a metal tape you can use it there is no Betamax, VHS nor V2000 specific tape If you have a working Philips/Grundig VCR (VCR was the name of the system) from the seventies but only a worn tape, just wind a VHS tape on it
So it's just the speed, and the player that separates those 3 types then? I'm also having a hard time figuring out what you mean by that last part. Are you saying I could play a VHS tape in that Beta player if it was worn enough?
johnbrnssr no, I meant tape is tape. You need a VHS to play back VHS, a beta to play back beta. In case - for example- - you got a worn out beta cassette you can wind a tape from a VHS to the beta cassette. Then you can use it as a beta cassette and record and play back beta. I bought my last beta tapes in 1998. In case you need beta tapes try eBay. My example with VCR, a Dutch/German system from the seventies this method will make sense. But this system just made a try in the US, compared to beta and VHS it was outdated. It was replaced by Video 2000 in 1980/1981
You should change the title of this video this way: Betamax half inch tape inside the VHS cassette. Obviously you recorded on this new VHS cassette with Beta half inch tape inside, with a VHS VCR ( not with a Betamax VCR). That why some people confused. VHS recording frequency and speeds completely different than Betamax. The only common thing between two format is both use same half inch magnetic tape. If you try it exactly what he did but with a tape that recorded will a Betamax VCR, you will get some blinking and moving bunch of horizontal lines up and down on TV screen but you will get audio that is faster than normal speed. Because audio is recorded linearly at the edge of tape on both format.
The only thing that confuses me though is I have some comments from people who have done this and gotten blurry picture but pretty good sound, so I have no idea. As for the title, I wasn't sure how to leave it. Plus as I've said in the video, and the description, I didn't know what would happen with a pure Betamax and assumed this would work. Now I know.
The main question is are they home made Betamax, or store bought? If it's a professional movie there is copyright protection to get around. If they are home movies it's pretty simple provided you already have a beta player (This VHS trick rarely works). From the Beta Player you can plug the signal into a DVD recorder and go from there. Or, they make adapters where you can record it onto your computer as an MP4. It's a lot so let me know if you have any questions.
@@juliabrnssr Thank you for replying, they are home movies. But unfortunately I don't have a beta player and they are very expensive on ebay. However, I have Sony betamovie BMC-110. I am not sure if I can use the BMC to play the beta cassette and then plug it with an adapter to save the footage.
That's why I made this follow up video.ruclips.net/video/SZDN-TpO-p8/видео.html I thought I said it in the video, or at least said it in the description, that the footage on the BetaMax was recorded using a VCR, which may have changed things. I'm also a little confused, if you scroll in the comments, there was one person who did the same experiment, with a real betamax and got good picture. Maybe it's the VCR?
I have done this in the past and it doesn't work. You cannot take beta recorded tape out of the case and put it in to vhs (and vica-versa) and expect it to play those recordings. . The angle of the video heads between vhs and beta are very different, the drum is larger on betamax creating longer video tracks and the positions of the control and audio tracks are also in different locations. You can swap the physical media between beta and vhs and re-record cotent on them without issues. I suspect that the playback shown is on a beta machine hidden away as the recording shows head-switching issues at the bottom of the tape (common on misaligned beta). One other scenario is that the tape taken out of the beta cassette in the video was recorded on a vhs machine originally Nice try but people who know how video recorders can see thru this little deception
I see you didn't read the other comments in this video that say the same thing, Part 2 that corrected my mistakes, or read the title very carefully. My intention was not to fool anyone. The tape in this video was recorded with a VHS signal, and so I assumed this is was the case with an actual Beta Max. Part 2 was using a real Beta Max to do the experiment proper. One thing that confuses me though is there are some people that have done this experiment and have gotten it to work. One told me if you take a PAL Beta and put it into a NTSC VCR it will work. By the way what should I entitled the video? I thought it was obvious but I see comments like this every so often.
@@juliabrnssr The whole point of being able to put your own comments on someone else's video is to give feedback to the content maker. I myself have 3 other channels. Why on earth should I read other comments on your video apart from the first few at the top? I don't have time to read a ton of comments on someone else's video to then make my own comment.. Ultimately your video your comments to trawl through. if you are getting lots of comments (constructive or otherwise) that are similar then maybe you should use them to build better videos? That is what ive done with my channels.
@@Robert_Wolf Point taken. That is why I pinned a comment section that straightened out the issues. (I honestly forgot that was a feature). I'm not a very big youtuber and don't get a lot of comments. Occasionally I'll get a comment similar to yours yesterday. When I asked for a better approach, I never get a response. That's why I ask. I have made several tweaks to the video since the comments, but I see there are still problems.
I hope you realized that your opening the casing the wrong side. The tiny things that help turn the vhs and ultimately allows it to play in the vhs recorder will just fall out lol. YOU TAKE THE SCREW OUT AND THEN YPU FLIP IT OVER AND PULL THE TOP HALF OF THE CASING APART AND THEN ITS SUPER SUPER EASY TO DEAL WITH WHATS GOING ON IN THE CASING ITSELF - not the other way. IM assuming that the video on the batamax was recorded from a vhs because a bata can’t show video on a vhs player
First point. How interesting, There are very few times I've taken these tapes apart and have yet to find a good technique. This sounds much easier. As for the second point, I thought I made that very clear in the title and the description. Yes the tape was recorded with a VHS signal. When I originally made this video, I didn't know if the 2 formats where compatible, so I figured ask the internet. I'm sure they would tell me if I was wrong. One thing that confuses me though is there are a few people that have tried this experiment and have gotten picture as well as audio. No idea what is up with that. One theory I've heard is, if you want to play a NSTC Beta in a VCR, it will yield better results if the VCR is from the PAL region.
ISE LA PRUEBA CON UN BETA LO PUSE TAL COMO ESTA EN EL VIDEO PERO LOS CARRETE DE LA CINTA NO ENCAJABAN CAMBIEN DE CARRETE Y LO PUSE AL REPRODUCTOR BHS Y SOLO SALIO AUDIO UN POCO LENTIZADO DE IMAGEN NADA, PUEDO AFIRMAR QUE ESTE VIDEO ES FALSO NO FUNCIONA, ESTOY PENZANDO E N COMPRAR UN BETAMAX NOMAS NO HAY OTRA INFORMACION QUE LES COMPARTO NO FUNCIONA HOY DESDE BOLIVIA SANTA CRUZ 29 DE MARZO DEL 2022
There is one minor thing. Experts have told me that if it's an actual Beta tape (an official movie release), the picture and the audio will be a little off but it will still work. I'd be pretty curious to see how that would look if you ever try it.
johnbrnssr I did do it. But the video was blurry. And the audio was their but scatchy. My parents wedding tape from 1985 Middle East. Tryna our some anniversary together. Is it best to buy a Betamax player instead ?
Seems the longer this video stays us, the more results I get. I've got one that got fuzzy picture but great audio. I've heard of several that some audio but no picture. First I've heard of picture but no audio. I do also want to note the footage on this tape was recorded using a VCR, which may change the results.
pero como? la orientacion del cabezal giratorio del betamax es diferente al del vhs!! como es posible esto! yo lo probe en su epoca, lo mismo que aqui mestra este video y no resulto!!! lo extraño es que aqui si funciono!!! curioso no....
El metraje de la cinta se grabó con una videograbadora. Hice lo mismo aquí con un Betamax real y no obtuve la misma imagen. Lo extraño es que una persona en los comentarios afirma haberlo hecho funcionar. ruclips.net/video/SZDN-TpO-p8/видео.html
*FAKE* There's no way the tapes are compatible beyond maybe some out of speed audio. Betamax and VHS are totally and completely different systems with different head angles, head azimuths and modulation frequencies. Please don't attempt this on a prized video....
I'll take it you didn't read the description, or see Part 2. However I have been given another perspective. People have told me you can play Pal Region Beta tapes on an NTSC VCR. I only know how to get me hand on one of those though.
@@juliabrnssr Given that PAL and NTSC operate in fundamentally different ways, I can assure you the answer is *NO* the initial issue being the tape speeds are wildly different and as I previously mentioned the wrap angles are not remotely similar. I own a video archival company in the UK, and own many, many different format machines and can tell you that you have been misled. My contention is that somebody will see this video and destroy a valuable home video.
@@musmodtos Interesting, a had a few users do the experiment and say that it worked. That was the only explanation I had with it being possible. By the way what would make this less misleading? I've tried to straighten this out as much as possible but I see there are still problems.
This is total bull .. the format is different . the speed of betamax is slower than vhs and the picture quality will be bad and you did not put the tape correctly through .
It's very curious. I've had a few comments that did the experiment again. Most of the time they are unsuccessful, but there are some that say they have gotten it to work. I have no idea.
The format of the beta and VHS systems are totally different to one another - you cannot play a beta recorded tape on a VHS machine and vice versa. Contrary to what you stated, I would suggest that the movie Goldfinger was indeed recorded on half inch beta tape, but recorded on the VHS machine and played back on the VHS machine
So I'll take it you didn't read the title correctly, or see the 10 other comments that said the same thing?
@@juliabrnssr Yes you're right ON BOTH COUNTS, but in the video at 5:40 you say "so I've (re)wound the tape to the beginning, let's see what's actually on this thing" which suggests you don't know. But I think you do, because you, or someone you know, already taped over the original content that was on the videotape after it was transferred from the Beta cassette to the VHS cassette, probably after finding out that the formats ARE NOT COMPATIBLE
@@warrenmacdonald1372 A very good point. Main reason I said that is because I had recorded a lot of things on that tape. Wasn't sure if it was gonna be Breath of the Wild, Goldfinger 64, Infinity Train or something else. Just to be clear, all of this was recorded with a VCR. I took the spool out of the Blank Beta Max and pressed record. Only after making this video, as well as making part 2 did I find this isn't always the case. I have a few people that claimed to have gotten this to work with a Raw Beta Signal. One person even offered a theory. If you where to play a NTSC Beta on a PAL VCR you would get something. All the same, I would love to do a part 3 where I try the same thing with a Beta player. They are just hard to find and expensive where I am.
@@juliabrnssr Thanks for clearing things up. Just a note: VCR ( Video Cassette Recorder ) is a blanket term used for almost any VTR ( Video Tape Recorder ) that uses a cassette to house the videotape, so Beta and VHS are both VCR's. Beta is a standard introduced by SONY and licensed to Sears, Sanyo, Toshiba and Zenith; and VHS ( Video Home System ) was introduced by JVC and licensed to the many manufacturers who sold VHS machines.
now im curious what interesting patterns you would get.
Super helpful! I have a client of mine that asked me to convert her VHS tapes and in the bottom of her stack was a Betamax. I use a VCR and I had a feeling it wouldn't work in there. She'll be so happy I was able to get that tape converted it has her husband's grandmother on it. She wants to show her daughter to be able to meet her because she passed away before she was born. Stay positive people!
Let me know if it works. I've heard some say you can only get distorted sound from this process, others say it works fine but with low quality, and still others tell me if you have the right VCR it will play beta just fine. I do want to note though the the footage on the Beta was recorded using a VCR, so that may change a few things.
@@juliabrnssr This is TheJakeThatVlogs from my busienss account. I intend to try this method this weekend on a client's betamax. I'll be sure to let you know how it comes out and what troubles I run into.
Correction: “ the footage on the Beta was recorded using a VHS VCR” (Also it’s called tape not “film”.)
This is clearly fake. There's no way that a Beta recording would play on a VHS machine, since the way the signal is recorded onto the tape is different and incompatible with VHS machines. You can get sound, but absolutely no signs of a video would play.
It's not fake, you see the footage recorded onto the Beta tape was done through a VCR. That is why there was sound an picture. The main purpose of the video was to see if anyone with a proper Beta could do it. Odd thing is there is one person in the comments that claimed they got it to work, even though the picture was blurry. I do also want to mention I did a follow up video to this (I found a real beta tape for cheap) . ruclips.net/video/SZDN-TpO-p8/видео.html
You keep saying “recorded on VCR” which could mean any format: Beta, VHS, Umatic, Video8. Please be more specific
Also it’s TAPE not “film” as you claimed
No, it's no fake. VHS and beta uses different tapespeeds and so the videoangle on the tape is different. But the signal is nearly the same. When you're able to modify the tapespeed to the same amount vhs uses, you could play the tape with a reduced quality. But the problem is, that the syncing on vhs has not the range to come down to the beta's specs. But on the end of beta, there was a try to make a fusion of both systems! Some VHS Machines of that time could really play beta formated tapes. The sycing scematics used in this machines are the same as on a beta machine and can reach the correct tape and headdrum speed. When you look at the video footage, you see the player starting with VHS Specs and goes down to beta Specs after 2 seconds.
as I own both beta and vhs machines that work I can guarantee that this works because you can also put a Betamax signal on a vhs tape and play it through a Betamax player but you would need a special tool to get the correct magnetism levels about the same as a U-Matic machine
the machine I use is a Sanyo VTC-5000
You obviously made a recording onto that Beta tape using the VHS VCR. Beta is a completely different format, not just a different cassette shell. However they both use a 1/2" oxide tape. If you were to play a Beta recording on a VHS VCR, you would just get horizontal lines and incorrectly-pitched audio.
I was hoping in doing this I would be able to find someone else who could do the experiment proper. This is the 4th Beta Tape I've ever seen in my life, so I did my best.
There seems to be some confusion. Betamax and VHS both used half inch tape, but that does not mean they are compatible. If you take the tape from a Betamax cassette and put it inside a VHS shell you will generally be able to record on it on a VHS machine, and vice versa. This is because the tape itself was very similar and sometimes even identical. However VHS and Betamax used different methods of recording, so a recording made on a VHS machine will NOT playback on a Betamax machine, and a recording made on a Betamax machine will NOT playback on a VHS machine, the two recording methods were incompatible with each other. In the case of playing a tape recorded on Betamax machine on a VHS machine what you tend to get is weird horizontal lines, although you may be able to hear distorted audio. Another problem is the way the two formats dealt with the beginning and end of the tapes, VHS used a clear leader tape through which a light was shone. This light was picked up by an optical sensor so the machine knew when you had reached the beginning or end of the tape. Betamax uses a foil leader to identify the beginning and end of the tapes so doing what you did means the VHS machine cannot see through that foil leader, hence it cannot identify when the end of the tape is reached and as a result auto stop wont work, and you risk stretching or even breaking the tape. You CAN splice the clear leader onto the Betamax tape using a VHS splicing kit and the clear leader from another VHS cassette.
So basically you CANNOT record on a Betamax cassette in a Betamax VCR then transfer the tape to a VHS cassette, put it into a VHS VCR and have it play properly because the way the two formats record is different.
That's what everyone tells me, but I ran into one person that was able to get blurry picture from doing this so I don't know. I was curious about what would happen if I played a VHS tape in a Beta Machine, that was going to be my third experiment. I later re-did this experiment with a "Pure" Betamax ruclips.net/video/SZDN-TpO-p8/видео.html As for the rewinding of each tape, found out that one by accident when the VCR didn't stop. I know there are 3 types of Beta tapes. Wonder if the same results would happen with the other 2?
I knew the 2 formats were incompatible, but what I did NOT know was how Beta treats the end of tape.
So it is the same as the auto channel change on 8 track carts. Seems like just something else that needed cleaning after many hours of use.
This video is from 2020, but it gives off pure 1983 energy
Looks like you know your T.V.s, that's the year listed on the back of it.
Saya pernah memasukan pita video vhs ke betamax tapi no play,,,😊😊
Omg!!! I wish we have something like that. I really want to watch my parents wedding
Interesting, you are the second comment saying they wanted to see their parents wedding. After following the steps they say it worked but the picture and audio where distorted. I think your best bet would be to get a Beta Player. It may be more expensive then a VCR but it will work for sure. Plus this how to is more intended fro those that already have a VCR.
You keep saying “VCR” as if that separates the two standards. It does not. Both Betamax and VHS were VCRs
You probably mean VHS and Betamax
Mungkin kalau sekarang vcd ke dvd oke,dvd ke vcd no play,,,😊😊
I have a beta machine that works inconsistently, so I tested a beta tape that I know played. When I switched it to the VHS shell, only the audio would play and the video was raster and no figures could be seen. Do you know what the problem could be? Not going to try on family videos until I figure out why the video did not play. Tried a good VHS on the VHS machine and it played perfect.
I'll try to keep it short. The footage in this video was recorded using a VHS signal which is why it plays fine. As I have been reminded time and time again sound is the most you can get out of it. However there is one thing I have found. If your Beta was recorded in the PAL format rather than NTSC it should play fine. I later redid the same experiment with a True NTCS beta and these where the results. ruclips.net/video/SZDN-TpO-p8/видео.html
@@juliabrnssr
No, PAL, SECAM or NTSC makes no difference, Betamax and VHS are completely and utterly incompatible apart from baseband linear audio.
Different head wrap, azimuth angles, modulation frequencies, control tracks.... Need I go on....
@@musmodtos I was wondering if anyone caught onto this. I think even the video head drum speed is different. One other thing that is the same is the width of the tape. They even used the same width for those later reel to reel "VTR"s for consumers from the late 70s.
I had one that was a "2 head" and sadly, one of the heads were bad.
SPEED of the tape advance is different too. A VHS VCR doesn’t run the tape at the proper speed to read Betamax tape.
Whatever tape you use, as long it is half inch and not a metal tape you can use it
there is no Betamax, VHS nor V2000 specific tape
If you have a working Philips/Grundig VCR (VCR was the name of the system) from the seventies but only a worn tape, just wind a VHS tape on it
So it's just the speed, and the player that separates those 3 types then? I'm also having a hard time figuring out what you mean by that last part. Are you saying I could play a VHS tape in that Beta player if it was worn enough?
johnbrnssr no, I meant tape is tape. You need a VHS to play back VHS, a beta to play back beta.
In case - for example- - you got a worn out beta cassette you can wind a tape from a VHS to the beta cassette. Then you can use it as a beta cassette and record and play back beta.
I bought my last beta tapes in 1998. In case you need beta tapes try eBay.
My example with VCR, a Dutch/German system from the seventies this method will make sense. But this system just made a try in the US, compared to beta and VHS it was outdated. It was replaced by Video 2000 in 1980/1981
You should change the title of this video this way: Betamax half inch tape inside the VHS cassette. Obviously you recorded on this new VHS cassette with Beta half inch tape inside, with a VHS VCR ( not with a Betamax VCR). That why some people confused. VHS recording frequency and speeds completely different than Betamax. The only common thing between two format is both use same half inch magnetic tape. If you try it exactly what he did but with a tape that recorded will a Betamax VCR, you will get some blinking and moving bunch of horizontal lines up and down on TV screen but you will get audio that is faster than normal speed. Because audio is recorded linearly at the edge of tape on both format.
The only thing that confuses me though is I have some comments from people who have done this and gotten blurry picture but pretty good sound, so I have no idea. As for the title, I wasn't sure how to leave it. Plus as I've said in the video, and the description, I didn't know what would happen with a pure Betamax and assumed this would work. Now I know.
I have a bunch of Betamax cassettes and I want to convert them to digital video, is that possible? how can I do it?
The main question is are they home made Betamax, or store bought? If it's a professional movie there is copyright protection to get around. If they are home movies it's pretty simple provided you already have a beta player (This VHS trick rarely works). From the Beta Player you can plug the signal into a DVD recorder and go from there. Or, they make adapters where you can record it onto your computer as an MP4. It's a lot so let me know if you have any questions.
@@juliabrnssr Thank you for replying, they are home movies. But unfortunately I don't have a beta player and they are very expensive on ebay. However, I have Sony betamovie BMC-110. I am not sure if I can use the BMC to play the beta cassette and then plug it with an adapter to save the footage.
@@musaed55555 If the camera has any output, such as RCA or Coaxial, you can capture the footage that way.
@@juliabrnssr Thank you very much.
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Fake video,
Vhs and betamax are different head angles so d't not mach each other.
That's why I made this follow up video.ruclips.net/video/SZDN-TpO-p8/видео.html I thought I said it in the video, or at least said it in the description, that the footage on the BetaMax was recorded using a VCR, which may have changed things. I'm also a little confused, if you scroll in the comments, there was one person who did the same experiment, with a real betamax and got good picture. Maybe it's the VCR?
Not only the angle is different
the phase of the color changes track per track
then the tape speed is different
Its not FILM its TAPE
One of my personal quirks I guess. It's like how I use the term RESET instead of RESTART.
I have done this in the past and it doesn't work. You cannot take beta recorded tape out of the case and put it in to vhs (and vica-versa) and expect it to play those recordings. . The angle of the video heads between vhs and beta are very different, the drum is larger on betamax creating longer video tracks and the positions of the control and audio tracks are also in different locations. You can swap the physical media between beta and vhs and re-record cotent on them without issues. I suspect that the playback shown is on a beta machine hidden away as the recording shows head-switching issues at the bottom of the tape (common on misaligned beta). One other scenario is that the tape taken out of the beta cassette in the video was recorded on a vhs machine originally Nice try but people who know how video recorders can see thru this little deception
I see you didn't read the other comments in this video that say the same thing, Part 2 that corrected my mistakes, or read the title very carefully. My intention was not to fool anyone. The tape in this video was recorded with a VHS signal, and so I assumed this is was the case with an actual Beta Max. Part 2 was using a real Beta Max to do the experiment proper. One thing that confuses me though is there are some people that have done this experiment and have gotten it to work. One told me if you take a PAL Beta and put it into a NTSC VCR it will work. By the way what should I entitled the video? I thought it was obvious but I see comments like this every so often.
@@juliabrnssr "Playing tape recorded on vhs but using beta spools in a VHS cassette?" might be a better title.
@@juliabrnssr The whole point of being able to put your own comments on someone else's video is to give feedback to the content maker. I myself have 3 other channels. Why on earth should I read other comments on your video apart from the first few at the top? I don't have time to read a ton of comments on someone else's video to then make my own comment.. Ultimately your video your comments to trawl through. if you are getting lots of comments (constructive or otherwise) that are similar then maybe you should use them to build better videos? That is what ive done with my channels.
@@Robert_Wolf Point taken. That is why I pinned a comment section that straightened out the issues. (I honestly forgot that was a feature). I'm not a very big youtuber and don't get a lot of comments. Occasionally I'll get a comment similar to yours yesterday. When I asked for a better approach, I never get a response. That's why I ask. I have made several tweaks to the video since the comments, but I see there are still problems.
I hope you realized that your opening the casing the wrong side. The tiny things that help turn the vhs and ultimately allows it to play in the vhs recorder will just fall out lol. YOU TAKE THE SCREW OUT AND THEN YPU FLIP IT OVER AND PULL THE TOP HALF OF THE CASING APART AND THEN ITS SUPER SUPER EASY TO DEAL WITH WHATS GOING ON IN THE CASING ITSELF - not the other way. IM assuming that the video on the batamax was recorded from a vhs because a bata can’t show video on a vhs player
First point. How interesting, There are very few times I've taken these tapes apart and have yet to find a good technique. This sounds much easier. As for the second point, I thought I made that very clear in the title and the description. Yes the tape was recorded with a VHS signal. When I originally made this video, I didn't know if the 2 formats where compatible, so I figured ask the internet. I'm sure they would tell me if I was wrong. One thing that confuses me though is there are a few people that have tried this experiment and have gotten picture as well as audio. No idea what is up with that. One theory I've heard is, if you want to play a NSTC Beta in a VCR, it will yield better results if the VCR is from the PAL region.
ISE LA PRUEBA CON UN BETA LO PUSE TAL COMO ESTA EN EL VIDEO PERO LOS CARRETE DE LA CINTA NO ENCAJABAN CAMBIEN DE CARRETE Y LO PUSE AL REPRODUCTOR BHS Y SOLO SALIO AUDIO UN POCO LENTIZADO DE IMAGEN NADA, PUEDO AFIRMAR QUE ESTE VIDEO ES FALSO NO FUNCIONA, ESTOY PENZANDO E N COMPRAR UN BETAMAX NOMAS NO HAY OTRA INFORMACION QUE LES COMPARTO NO FUNCIONA HOY DESDE BOLIVIA SANTA CRUZ 29 DE MARZO DEL 2022
What’s up buddy. I like the video. So I can just do this as you did instead of purchasing a betamax player?
There is one minor thing. Experts have told me that if it's an actual Beta tape (an official movie release), the picture and the audio will be a little off but it will still work. I'd be pretty curious to see how that would look if you ever try it.
johnbrnssr I did do it. But the video was blurry. And the audio was their but scatchy. My parents wedding tape from 1985 Middle East. Tryna our some anniversary together. Is it best to buy a Betamax player instead ?
@@Moeq24 If you can find one. I'm not sure how common they are. If nothing else at least you have a substitute till you can find a real one.
Done this, doesnt work. I only got the audio.
Seems the longer this video stays us, the more results I get. I've got one that got fuzzy picture but great audio. I've heard of several that some audio but no picture. First I've heard of picture but no audio. I do also want to note the footage on this tape was recorded using a VCR, which may change the results.
Ok ok !!! Betamax tape to VHC? WOW
superb
Some one have a vcr brand beta for sale i will buy it
It’s tape, it’s NOT film
Thx . BOSS
like the noise in the betamax incopatible vcr :°
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pero como? la orientacion del cabezal giratorio del betamax es diferente al del vhs!! como es posible esto! yo lo probe en su epoca, lo mismo que aqui mestra este video y no resulto!!! lo extraño es que aqui si funciono!!! curioso no....
El metraje de la cinta se grabó con una videograbadora. Hice lo mismo aquí con un Betamax real y no obtuve la misma imagen. Lo extraño es que una persona en los comentarios afirma haberlo hecho funcionar. ruclips.net/video/SZDN-TpO-p8/видео.html
Not related to the video at all but what do you think of the 007 games on the PS2 from agent under fire to quantum of solace?
Only played the gamecube version of Agent under fire, however it's one of my favorites. Still waiting to get a copy of Quantum of Solace.
*FAKE*
There's no way the tapes are compatible beyond maybe some out of speed audio.
Betamax and VHS are totally and completely different systems with different head angles, head azimuths and modulation frequencies.
Please don't attempt this on a prized video....
I'll take it you didn't read the description, or see Part 2. However I have been given another perspective. People have told me you can play Pal Region Beta tapes on an NTSC VCR. I only know how to get me hand on one of those though.
@@juliabrnssr Given that PAL and NTSC operate in fundamentally different ways, I can assure you the answer is *NO* the initial issue being the tape speeds are wildly different and as I previously mentioned the wrap angles are not remotely similar.
I own a video archival company in the UK, and own many, many different format machines and can tell you that you have been misled.
My contention is that somebody will see this video and destroy a valuable home video.
@@musmodtos Interesting, a had a few users do the experiment and say that it worked. That was the only explanation I had with it being possible. By the way what would make this less misleading? I've tried to straighten this out as much as possible but I see there are still problems.
Kermie!!!!
VHS on beta next
Maybe someday. In all my travels, I've only ever seen one Beta machine. I'm annoyed I never bought it.
@@juliabrnssr F in the chat
Hola amigo veo q t critican igual en un momento voy a pasar la cinta de un betamax a una caja vhs igual gracias por tu video muy interesante...
This is total bull .. the format is different . the speed of betamax is slower than vhs and the picture quality will be bad and you did not put the tape correctly through .
Se nota lo bueno
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the video is false the betamax does not have the same heads do not be fooled
It's very curious. I've had a few comments that did the experiment again. Most of the time they are unsuccessful, but there are some that say they have gotten it to work. I have no idea.
Esto no funciona no sirve
Como en todo? Debería poder obtener algo de imagen y sonido. No he tomado español desde la secundaria. Espero que esto tenga sentido.
And by the way this is all fake.
Esto no funcions
¿Tienes la región correcta? ¿Pal o ntsc? Por lo menos debería haber sonido.
Lo que pasa es que no se reproduce tiene mucha velocidad que hago
@@ernestopenaloza3654 Tal vez intente ajustar el seguimiento. Eso es todo lo que puedo pensar.
Escriba en españoñ
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