Gas vs Battery Lawn Mower - Which is better?
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A big difference is probably that the gas and cordless models get a different blade. Although at a quick glance they may look similar, the cordless blades are almost always a bit thinner and have a less aggressive sail (curved part) on the back of the blade. This causes less air resistance for the electric motor and lets it run longer. A more aggressive sail as on the gas model will lift the grass better and discharge and bag better because the taller sail is pushing the air/grass more. That taller sail also means longer edges on the Toro Atomic blade's sail teeth (the "gator" teeth), which helps to cut up debris better resulting in superior mulching. I don't know the exact model numbers for the 2 mowers you are showing but Toro uses different blades between it's gas and 60v models for this reason. Almost all battery mowers have these thinner, less aggressive blades. Toro's 60v Super Recycler even has 3 blade choices which they tell you will get you different run times based upon the aggressiveness/size of the blade's sail curvature.
They mention a slower blade speed too - I suspect that has a lot to do with it.
The electric powered is perfect for small lawns quite for the neighbours but the gas is overall better when it comes at industrial use
Yes exactly!!
Exactly
Wrong! The chargers dont last! Dont fall
For the gimmick!
Dude - the yell made me jump out of my skin! “What’s up everybody!!!”
Same here 😂
I’d say the Toro won
lol
@JDQ no your wrong 😑 the toro won 🏆
@JDQ wait no the toro won
@JDQ no no the toro won
@JDQ I guess your right the toro won 🏆
Really good review, guys! You have helped me make a decision. I was going to try a battery mower until I watched this review, but not now. I mulch 100% of the time, because it is better for the lawn and the environment. I have about 10k sq ft to mow weekly, and it takes one tank of gas in my Honda self -propelled mower. That is one third of a gallon a week, to mow 10k sq ft., so I don't use a whole lot of gas anyway. The quality of the mulching going from gas to battery will keep me from buying a battery mower, at this time. Maintenance is not much of an issue. I change the oil once a year and sharpen blades once a year, and that's pretty much it! My mow time is about an hour and a half, and I mow about 32 weeks of the year (in Kansas). So 48 hours of run time a year, is what I average. That also amounts to about 11 gallons of gas a year, so I wouldn't save much money by going to batteries (electricity isn't free!)
Agreed. Generally petrol is better for a large area and they last soooooo long. My grandfather has a VICTA 2 STROKE and it's a beast. It's 20 years old yet it just keeps going. A lot of battery stuff is made cheap in China and will barely last 5 years before you need a new battery or mower. $$$$$ fix.
Good decision!
I have a 56 volt EGO and it’s no better at cutting leaves than the electric Toro. Fall is the only time I miss the old Honda mower.
Its very cool that Toro was able to use the recycler 22 inch deck w/ personal pace for the battery system.
I bought a greenworks 40v electric chainsaw, after a few weeks i bought the mower, string trimmer and snow blower. If your lot size is 1/4 acer or smaller battery electric all the way. My mower is so quiet i can listen to a audio book while i work. Worth every penny.
Have never used a battery powered lawn mower, used an electric one many years ago, and back then they just weren't that great back then...I'm sure the battery powered lawn mowers are leaps and bounds ahead of corded electric lawn mowers of years past. Seriously considering a battery powered lawnmower next time I buy a new mower. I think with a couple batteries I'd easily be able to mow everything I'd ever need to do with a push mower, have to keep the lawn tractor around as I have an acre plus other chores with the 42" snow blower I have, a battery powered riding mower just isn't an option with the snow blower attachment.
I would say it has to be perfect conditions to use battery though… 1-1-1/2” cut, very flat lawn, dry grass etc. You can look absolutely ridiculous mowing with a cordless mower, go 10 feet, stop, lift the front end up, wait 20 seconds, start the mower, repeat every 10-20 feet.
Also, you can’t tell when the battery is dead or just the motor can’t handle the conditions. You get a 4-year repair warranty on the mower and 2-year warranty on the battery, after that they bcome unusable. Those batteries need to be replaced and could cost anywhere from $80 to $400.
Worth every penny for 3 years, don’t replace the battery, just get a new mower. If you don’t want to buy a new mower every 3 years, buy a gas mower. Might last you 15-20 years if you take care of the engine. Cost you about $40 in maintenance in year 1, $60 in year 2, and you don’t have to worry about replacing a dead battery (which you can’t find anywhere, and if you do find it you can’t believe the cost)...
@@SCraig-Handsome I would say a few years ago you'd need perfect conditions. I think this Toro and the new EGOs really do perform pretty competently though. Not as well as gas as they demonstrate here, but good enough for most homeowners.
plmn93 I think it depends on your application, and investment you want to put into it, I can get an EGO with a replacement battery for $1,200 CDN or a $600 Husqvarna with a Honda engine. Which one will still be working 5 years from now? The Husky. There are people with a 4-5 year old EGO that still runs but here is the problem, it bogs down in tall grass and stalls. It’s a motor, not an engine, believe me, I’ve had the same result after using them. So many I’ve lost count. I have the top of the line Greenworks commercial mower, I could invest another $200 in it to get it back up to mow the lawns I have, but why would I? I can buy a new one for $300. My Husqvarna I know will mow the entire lawn, front, back and both sides. No recharging, no stalling, done in 1/4 of the time of an electric mower. I’m not talking about just now either, I’m talking 4-5 years from now when that electric has no tourque left and gets dropped off at the local landfill...
@@SCraig-Handsome my grandparent just bought a greenworks electric mower and for their yard it works great. cant say much about the reliability though cause its only been used a handful of times. On my yard i've got a couple of older commercial honda gas mowers from my father who used to own a lawn care business. Growing up using nothing but commercial gas units and having about 10 100+ft tall trees in a 1/3 acre lot i cant get away with electric mower yet, but the electric weed eaters, blowers, chainsaws and other more short use tools have definitely peaked my interest. honestly very surprised that this little 8" electric chainsaw is able to cut better than my 10" stihl gas powered saw though definitely not quite there in replacing my 36 inch husqvarna saw.
I’ve had both. Got rid of the gas and kept the battery. Quieter, cuts the same( idk why your mulching was bad), no gas-oil-spark plug-air filter-fraying pull string.
I’ve had both too, prefer gas because you can mow in extreme conditions and don’t have to replace it every 3 years, Battery starts no problem, but the motor doesn’t last... not to mention replacing the battery is almost as much as buying a new mower
@@SCraig-Handsome - Just curious what the extreme conditions are.
I'm very rough on my lawn mowers. I go over small twigs, weeds, baby trees, etc. My old Craftsman mowers plowed through all that crap with ease.
I hate gas, maintenance, not wanting to start, etc, but definitely don't want a weak mower.
danlc95 we get a lot of rain and sometimes it only takes 3 days for significant growth. So extreme for me would be mowing 6” or more of thick Kentucky bluegrass. With Battery Powered the battery powers the blade so you want significant voltage like 60-80 volts to power through the thick stuff.
Those are expensive but if your mower is under powered for the conditions then there will be lots of stalling
I’ve also had both, and I’m going back to gas due to more power and longer run time.
@@SCraig-Handsome I've stalled my 80V Kobalt
Gas powered mowers...
The satisfying sound
I got 1/4 lot, i bought toro 60v 6.0 battery and it works fantastic
How many batteries do you have? 2 or 4
For the home owner, electric is great for the usual weekly maintenance of a lawn. Gas is better for the occasional uses such as mulching leaves, scalping a lawn, or knee high grass. I pretty much transferred over to completely electric for home use, but I still keep a gas mower for those ugly jobs. For bigger lawns, electric zero turns are starting to become an option, but I hope a company decides to create an electric mower that is similar to a belt driven walk behind SCAG. Those were my favorite commercial grade mowers.
Cordless electrics may have come a long way from their primitive early designs spanning the early '70s to the mid '80s, but the best electrics were always corded; my favorite corded electrics were the Sunbeam twin-blade models.
I'm thinking that will be the last gas mower type to see battery conversion because it's almost exclusively used for commercial purposes. But the format would allow for large batteries to give a bit longer runtime. In sure it will happen eventually but will probably be very expensive initially.
I have the Toro Flex force 22" 60V battery mower. Replaced my gas mower (it wasn't a Toro) nearly two years ago and never looked back, as this machine gets the job done: no more gas fumes, no more messy oil changes. I have a batteryToro string trimmer as well.
All mine does is overheat. Electric sucks in Texas if the air temp is over 85. I have two 405 battery packs and got about 1/3rd of the lawn done on a quarter acre lot. Garbage.
Changing oil in a mower is no big deal, I can have one done in 5 minutes
Handy review as I head to the store. Just a note, years ago I asked handy dandy father why the wheels locked up when I wanted to walk backwards. He said it's technique. We went to hill and he said walk behind it up the hill. Then just let go of the propel handle. I did it and it stayed right there. It's a safely brake on all mowers so it's less likely to run you over while the blade could be running. If you walk on the straight and level let that propel handle go about a foot before you want to pull it backwards. No brake if you let it roll just a bit.
The other bit of useful information he gave me was if your mowing uphill buy front wheel drive so the mower is less likely to raise up on you in the front. Rear wheel drive for flatter lawns.
Another big advantage for electric that I don't think you've mentioned is the ability to mow on a steep slope without risking lubrication issues. Remember the old 2-stroke Lawn Boy mowers, with no crank case oil they could be operated almost vertically with no issues. Most gasoline engine mower manuals warn against mowing on steep slopes due to oil starvation in the engine. An electric mower can operate at any angle without worries.
So true, some might have a sensor that detect the angle and shut off at a certain point for safety.
I had one of those Lawn Boy 2-stroke mowers - the damn thing would out-smoke hell if the grass was tall, and leave you standing in a stinky blue cloud. It did a good job, but I couldn’t stand the smoke. I used it for half a season and went out and bought a Briggs-engined mower.
Unless if that gas mower has bigger rear wheels.
I have been using the Toro rear wheel drive gas mower for three seasons. I mow about three to four yards a week. The main problem I have found is the gas tank. If you overfill it, it runs into the air filter. Then it doesn’t want to start. I stopped trying to fill it completely up after the first few months. Other than that, it starts on the first or second pull and runs great. (Even after it sets all winter.). I replaced the drive belt this year. I would probably buy another one if needed. I’m not sure I would consider the electric one. I will check on the price. Thanks for your review.
Thanks!
I attached a plastic tube to the gas tank vent on my recycler, wrapping around the top and left side of the air filter and out the bottom. If I overfill, the excess gas runs out the tube, keeping filter dry.
@@12guppies I put a screw in the end of the overflow several years ago. The engine still runs great. I replaced to carburetor on it this year to stop surging.
Lots of comments saying electric is better for small yards or homeowners, etc. You also have to consider the type of grass regardless of yard size. In TX, most lawns are a very thick-bladed grass like St Augustine which an electric mower will struggle with regardless of lawn size. Throw in a little slope or a slightly overgrown lawn and the electric is no bueno.
I purchased the Ego 56 V push mower with the 5.0AH battery last year and the negative for me is the suction, especially on the higher height settings and you end up with matted down grass which then can cause other issues. I purchased the high lift blade hoping that it would fix the issue and IMO, the differences isn't that great either as it still mats down the grass. I like to mow my grass at 3 inches but I really can't do it with the Ego and have to mow at the #3 setting which is 2.5 inches.
Yeah. I am really at odds. Want to go electric because I don’t want to deal with gas then I think of this.
@@07BSPtC Same here.
i like can cut real early morning neighbours dont hear shit lol
WOW. For yards that big you need a riding type mower.
I'm a gas mower and electric trimmer kind of man.
I mow alot of properties and just no way to make a electric mower work for me runtime alone, and the lawns I'm cutting it can't handle 2ft overgrown grass. But I like a electric trimmer since I can efficently just trim here and there and not stress to much about efficient gas usage and dealing with mixing fuel additives. Also since its for unmowable areas the battery runtime is less of a hinderance.
I love the Toro personal pace mowers. I worked landscaping and we tried many commercial brands, but always came back to the personal pace mowers. I was sad to see that Briggs gas engines are cheaper now (not designed to be serviceable, basically China junk), but I still ended up buying one for my yard because it's the best self-propel design. Now if Toro could just design a blade that cuts more consistently. I always have to go back and get the straggler blades of grass that it missed... Same back in my landscape days.
Personal pace 👍🏻
You had me at the leaf challenge. GAS!! I own the older model of that Toro and love it. Thanks for going 4K!! I can finally see shit on my monitor.
lol
The gas runs at maximum torque while battery operated adjusts to the density
I paused it at 3:10 and it looks like the battery model has more leaves in it's row. Doesn't seem like a fair comparison.
lol
Or you just want the battery to do a better job so now you're nick picking lol
@@carloshill76 lower the wheels
Winner 🏆 toro with more leaves (electric)how much is that puppy??💯💯🤙😎
Well looks like I'm staying gas.
My issue between the two is bagging performance. The 60v does not have enough blade speed or lift to throw the grass through the deck cut out into the bag. It constantly clogs even in dry grass.
I have a toro super bagger and would love to go battery and could all summer long...but soon as the fall hits with the leaves which I bag of course, I just know I would be swapping batteries like crazy. I like that battery is on the rise but I also think of cycling and overall battery life and replacement cost this early in the game will rear it ls ugly head. I don't know...
Appreciate the review. Could you please work on the audio? I hate going from quiet to loud in 2 seconds
yes sorry
The difference in mulching ability between the two Toros is surprising, but understandable given the battery version's variable blade speed. I have DeWalt's 40V mower, which does not have variable blade speed (i.e. it runs at full speed/power all the time), and it mulches leaves very well (cuts grass well, too). However, without variable blade speed, it does not have nearly as good of run time. DeWalt really should have given the 40V mower their 7.5Ah battery instead of the 6Ah. Maybe they were saving the 7.5Ah for a future self-propelled model that never came to be (unfortunately, afaik, the whole 40V line has been discontinued). All that said, despite battery power having a few shortcomings, I wouldn't switch back to gas.
Dan is right... the lifetime of the battery can be greatly effected by how you take care of it. Just like the life of the gasoline engine is determined by how well you maintain it.
But how do you take care of it? Seems to be a lot of Bro Science out there on the matter and little to nothing in the owner's manuals.
@@plmn93 The manual contains information on keeping the battery vents clear and properly charging and storing the battery including the ambient temperatures at which the battery should be charged, used and stored. That's about all there is to keeping a Li-Ion battery healthy.
Keep them dry. best to store them in air conditioned space, try to avoid fully discharging the cells. clean the contacts occasionally to make sure corrosion doesn't build up. Dont over-heat them (avoid cutting the grass in extremely high temperatures).
Its a decent practice to let the batteries cool off after use before placing them on the charger but some manufacturers may or may not have built the auto shut off and charge cycles to minimize the degradation of the cells over use.
plmn93 I had a battery stop working because I left it in the garage and the temperature was too cold, same thing could happen in the heat I bet
I am so tempted by the battery mowers. The replacement cost of the large batteries is pretty high, I think the 7.5 Ah are about $350.00. On the gas Toro it will say "Smart Stow" if you can fold it upright to store it. #TIACREW
I have a Greenworks 60V which I will sell you for a very good price.
One would think that the engineers would evaluate blade speed, weight, pitch, in coming up with a better mower. Also, the vacuum effect makes the battery mower less powerful, leaving some center grass and edge clippings behind. Battery mowers: a work in progress.
If the electric one is actually slowing down because of the leaves, that makes total sense, but the cut quality is the same, you say. Curious if I'll ever mow leaves that dense, and if needed, another pass would be worth it to be rid of the gas can. Thanks
Gas powered is better, it smells fantastic and more powerful
The only problem many battery operate mowers seem forget to sharpen you blades about once every two-three year time frame!
Good to see battery power getting better.
Yep, although it still has always to go.
I personally think gas is the way to go just because it’s more efficient and parts for them are cheap and also I’m learning how to be a mechanic and working in gas lawn mower engines are great practice
I would made the obvious inquiry as to the difference in blades on each mower when mulching the leaves. To just stand there rather blindly wondering why one was better. Just my opinion though. Good video!!
Keep those indepth mower reviews coming. Lets see if we can get 6 more in 6 months.
Great video! You mentioned needing a new batter around year five. Does the lifespan of the battery decrease per full charge after a few years ?
I can understand having a battery for ur own lawn but working as a gardener I can't mess about for an hour waiting for it to charge then go back to work and your right the battery's get weaker and are expensive to nreplace
@@cameronrichardson3108 As a gardener you would have probably 4 batteries. While two are charging, you're using the other two, so you're never waiting.
@@mathieuclement8011 4 batteries thats a large expense and 4 batteries isn't going to do a whole day so at some point your still going yo need to charge them up which means either driving home.... not always an option to sit around for hours or find a way to charge on the job... generator so defeats the purpose...
Battery powered lawn mowers for me for the rest of my life. No gasoline,oil,pulling a string countless times to start...!
Does your electric mower stripe the lawn?
e1234 he’s just lazy lol
@@fireblazing1692 we're all lazy...hence why we're on RUclips
Gas mower for me. Yes, I’ve tried both gas and electric.
It’s cool to see how they compare. I’m sold on electric, I don’t use a push mower much mostly my zero turn
Me too. Electric all the way
The Eletric toro brushless motor changes in speed/power because of how the self-pase system works. It’s now integrated into how fast the motor spins. With gas the motor is always at the highest RPM no matter your speed.
To test this, the actual push eletric toro has a better consistent blade speed because it’s always set to a set spin of the motor and battery amps. If you do a Toro eletric side by side push vs self propel the push will actually mulch better.
The best thing toro could have done is throw out the self speed BS let the motor run on the highest the battery amp allows, then have a switch to engage the self propel wheels with a speed adjust,ent that is separate of the blade speed. This way you run high always.
Do you have the push version of the electric? I have contemplated which one to get between the PP or push version.
w will I have the self propelled model I’ll post a video today if you sub to my channel and I’ll explain about the system. I’ll try to post in the next couple hours.
Can’t wait to get that toro battery one !
electric for small lawn. Gas for bug lawn or having a job mowing lawn
lol at the leaf test, the electric side had much more leafs and the guy run through it while the other guy slowly walked with less leafs.
These results aren't surprising. Electric manufacturers love to talk about torque but the fact is that they are only around 2 HP. That's why most electrics are only 20-21" cuts and have specially designed lightweight blades. The power is just not there yet regardless of what their marketing department wants you to believe. This Toro is the closest consumer electric to a gas mower, with a real blade and 22" cut. Still, it's obvious it comes up short in performance. It's good enough for most homeowners, and the quietness and ease of use are strong advantages. But if you are looking for performance and value in overall longevity, gas is still the way to go.
Are they using the same blade, and what is the rpm? I noticed in a another video that the toro electric drive belt housing interferes quite a bit with the bottom of the deck. Is that the same design with their gas equivalent? Any obstruction like that seems to me like that would caused huge lift and mulching problems.
I have a Kobalt 80V and it leaves lines in the yard and it's only 3 years old and it's starting to act up. Also have the weed eater and I love it not impressed with the mower
The gas has higher lift blades and thicker too !!! End result.....better mulching.... I think.
Question: I know the battery “Super Recycler” comes with (2) blades: An economy blade to make the battery last longer and a regular premium blade, like the gas one. Which blade was on the battery one for testing? Also the battery Super Recycler has a max mode to make the blade go faster? Does this one have it too? If so did you have it in max mode?
I went from a gas Honda HRR to a 60V Super Recycler and I'll never go back to gas (unless I move and have more to mow). I'll never go back to Honda, either. Toro makes great mowers!
I would disagree that smaller yards can use Cordless too, sure it makes sense if you have 1 - 1-1/2” to cut, but if you have uneven terrain, wet grass, thick grass etc. it will bog down or even stall. I’ve had at least 3 Cordless mowers in the last 12 years and all did the same thing, they were fine the 1st year unless the grass was really wet or thick, after that though I could only get through part of my yard before having to recharge.
I have a small city lot, not an acre of grass in a rural area. Cordless should be able to handle it on 1 charge but over time I have to break it down into different times or days. No big deal if your neighbours can’t see it but it looks a little funny when you go out to do your front lawn and run out of power when you are half done and the battery is dead because the grass was just a little too wet or thick. I have thick grass and in my area you can get a lot of rain and then boom, your grass is 8” tall and you have to set your mower to the highest setting just to get some of it cut.
You never want to cut more than 2” at once, even the best gas mowers will struggle, but you won’t have to stop mowing and wait several hours for a battery to charge. With gas you can always cut your entire lawn in one cut… most people will do their front then take a break anyway, but with gas you don’t need to wait, they can run all day.
Everyone seems to be talking about what mowers can do when they are new. No one is talking about a Cordless mower after 5 or 6 years of use… there’s a reason for that. Lots of people can tell you a story about how their Toro or Honda lasted them 15 years and all they had to do it oil changes and fill it up with gas...
Heh, yep my Super Recycler is on year 11 or 12 I believe, nothing but gas, oil, a few plugs, and air filters. Still on the original drive belt. All of these electrics will be in the landfill in 10 years, heck probably after 5 years when the owners find out a new battery is 3/4 the cost of a new mower. The quietness and ease of use are very attractive, but I don't quite believe they are environmentally friendly. I may still buy one, but if I do, I will certainly get more battery than I need to get the most life out of it.
plmn93 I agree and it’s easier now to get replacement batteries but for me the new EGO is $400 CDN, which is $100 more than a new mower. You would need a new motor too because they cannot handle the thick stuff after a while and it gets very frustrating. The battery and blades are only part of the problem
Some Cordless come with a different blade. Did these have the same blade.
Another point to mention regarding "you gotta buy a new battery after 5 years" (which has discussed, is not necessarily the case and doesn't really mean anything, it depends a lot on how you use it and how you care for it), is that a gas mower also needs replacements: oil, air filter, spark plug, and of course gas. The electric mower will cost much less all things considered.
My math came out different. Cheapest battery on Amazon: $85. I will need two for my lawn, so that's $170 + 10% tax makes it $187 worth of batteries. If we assume gas goes up to $5 a gallon soon, 187 divided by 5 comes out to just over 37 gallons of gas. My gas mower takes about 1/4 gallon to do the whole yard, so that's 148 mows. Unless the cheapest battery out there can be recharged 148 times and still hold enough charge to cover my whole lawn, gas is cheaper, even at $5 a gallon.
@@Kragatar Lithium Ion Batteries can be charged thousands of times. 148 times is easily achieveable.
In an effort to sell electric I find many exagerate gas cost and underestimate electric cost over 10 year period. Everyone talks about mntenance expense of gas.I spend $6 a summer for two oil changes, and $10 for a new air filter (less if the old one can't be blown clean). In 10 years I spend at most $160 on maintenance. I use a quart of gas a week for 16 weeks, so 4 gallons or $20 per year. Total 10 year cost $360. Lithium batts of that size won't last 10 years without significant reduction in run time replacment costs for one battery is close to the gas total. Add on cost to recharge and time cost due to inability to mow whole lawn in one session, and I say gas still on top.
Few thoughts.
First, the Toro electric mower is not necessarily indicative of the cutting performance of all-electric mowers.
I have a gas-powered Toro Personal Pace all-wheel-drive 7.25ft-lbs and a Greenworks 60V electric.
The Gas mower wins easily in terms of longevity. if you have more than 1/4 acre to cut and you don't want to pay for an extra battery, stay with your gas mower. Period. Wait for better battery tech.
I have about 1/3 acre to cut (maybe slightly more) and 2 batteries (the mower holds up to 2 batteries and will auto switch between them when the first battery dies). The listed run time will vary based on "full cut" (long grass) and maintenance cut (cutting after an inch or so of growth). For Greenworks the full cut run time is about 30 min give or take, the maintenance cut run time is closer to 45min (which is still 1/2 the run time of a good gas mower), but given the extremes in lawns, I find how much grass by volume I can cut a better way to measure (see my comment at the end).
As far as cutting performance, it's incredibly close. The Greenworks is one of the best in terms of blade speed and ability to cut deep grass. I think my mowers mulching performance would easily beat the Toro we see here in this video.
Overall, gas still has advantages.
Longevity and price.
If you want electric that even begins to approach the longevity of a gas mower, you need multiple high AH batteries. 5 and 6ah batteries are incredibly expensive. The 5ah Greenworks is $180 on sale, two batteries will be $400 or more after tax.
That said, I won't go back to a gas mower. Ever.
I love how quiet they are, the lack of maintenance, never having to worry about gas and oil, and the fact that I can stand it up to store it, all with near or better performance.
One thing to keep in mind with electricity.
There are lots of ways to measure longevity, however, I find that spring cuts when the grass is very thick and often wet really impact electric performance (I cut on a weekly schedule).
I can fill a 45gallon trash can packed tight with grass per battery. However, the amount of lawn that (1) 45gal trash can will cover varies by time of the year. In the spring, when I cut shorter (because the grass is wet and shorter keeps disease away) I can do my front lawn only, in the summer, when growth slows and I cut longer to hold in moisture I can do front and 1/3 of the back before the can is full and the battery dies.
great comment
@@Toolsinaction I should have added I still have an old Lawn Boy 2 stroke aluminum deck 4hp mower and that mower was AMAZING, probably from the 1980s? maybe?). I could mulch down 1" thick sticks into dust with that mower. The 4hp would outperform anything even close, but alas, the environmental impact of a two stroke is something that has to be considered which is why I don't use it anymore.
Do they use the exact same blade?
Bought a Toro electric last Thursday night. Took it home and the battery bag was covered in a orange powder and it wouldn't charge. Took it back and swapped out the battery with HD. Charge the battery while at work and tried to test to mower that evening. It wouldn't start. It would only beep seven times after just barely spinning the blades. Took it back at 9PM and they had one left. Put in the battery there at the store and it started. Now I'm just waiting for the rain to stop and the grass to dry so we can test it out. The safety key solution is so cheesy. And I do feel that if kept outside, this mower wouldn't last. My 2003 Honda quad-cut lived 9 years outside without an issue. I hope this Toro holds up.
The battery powered mower is using less power at lower speeds. If you were to push down the personal space more , the blade spins faster, it saves battery power. It has an automatic sensor, but is no use if you dont push the personal pace harder. where as the gas mower blade is going at full power from the start. I own the flex force, i havent had a issue. Easy to start, the only things that i would say is that the battery takes a while to charge. The good thing about it is that you can actually alternte batteries from different toro battery powerd tools like the blower and trimmer (flex force versions)
EGo all the way. I have the string trimmer and the blower for my small lawn care business. Bought the trimmer last season when my Husqvarna died after 6 years and the blower at the end of the year. Love the EGo line.
Love EGO!
High.. i was thinking about starting an electric only lawn service... i used to do lawn service 40 years ago... can you tell me what is best ego mower.?.. I just want to mulch and don't want self propelled..How many batties do i need if i want to cut 4 normal yards per day 1/2 acre lots...i live in sw florida... just want maybe 10 to 20 yards tops close to my home... any help on equipment specs is appreciated...
Very expensive though... you can use them for commercial I think but for consumers it’s a bit crazy. My 1st Cordless was a 15 or 17” Black & Decker, it was around $200, now you can easily pay 5x that much
This video shows my main reason why I went with a gas mower when I bought recently. I really wanted electric for a lot of reasons. But when I compared them the gas mower had a slight edge over electric in terms of performance. I'm still keeping my eye on the electrics for one that can perform better or equal to gas, especially with mulching. I think the new Ego brushless that came out recently is the closest. I have their string trimmer and it's much better than the older echo gas trimmer I had.
I've used an electric mower on my 3/4 acre lot for over 6 years. I loved it. It takes 1.5 hours to cut in spring and .75 but the end of summer. Lawn thicker and physical conditioning.
I wouldn't use anything but electric now. You have to mow a little more frequently, but its worth it and the property looked amazing. I'm electric on mower, chainsaw, hedge clippers, car and I preordered my Tesla Truck. Electric is the future. Quieter and and almost zero maintenance.
Well I'd imagine that electrics will be there by the time your gas mower wears out. Then again, I thought that when I bought my current gas Toro Super Recycler 12 years ago, LOL. Though it will probably be true if I get another 8 years out of it, which I easily should.
Sthil battery vs Toro battery ?
Definitely if you live on a small lot in a neighborhood, just go all electric
Agreed
There was ~2X as many leaves in front of the battery mower for the leaf test. The leaves were coming up over the deck.
That shouldn't matter
You’ll always have range anxiety with cordless and for me will it be man enough to cut through thick grass that’s not been cut regular. We all get it after lots of rain the sun comes out for a few days and the grass has grown like wild fire and we don’t all get the time to mow it. I get you put the cut height to maximum but then u have to go again and petrol will go again whereas cordless you’ll need to charge battery up again so lawn can take much longer to cut.
Damn battery is so expensive when need to replace
I have the 22" gas model that works perfectly fine, but someone is selling their 22"electric mower for $75 on offerup without a battery. I already have a 7.5 amp battery from my snowblower. Should I make the switch?
1:25 my life flashed before my eyes btw I had earbuds in
I want to know how long the batteries last. I only use 5 dollars a gas a year. If I have to replace the batteries after 7 years will it beat 35 dollars used in gas from the gas mower.
You can use gas in your other lawn equipment and automobiles. Batteries are specific to a device.
You can't recycle batteries, you can recycle a gas engine.
Gasoline doesn't employ slave children in foreign countries.
A gasoline engine will last you the lifetime of the engine.
You can only use the electric lawn mower as long as the batteries are available by the manufacturer that wants you to buy another.
It's possible the motor shaft length isn't the exact same on both. The distance between the blade and mower tub will affect the uplift in mulching
It would be great if you could somehow measure the RPMs on both models. I bet the GAS is about 25% higher in RPMs
True but Electronics ramp up the speed in thick or long grass, most are around 200mph
I can't speak to RPM, but I wonder if this is what you're asking.
The blade tip speed between electrics and gas can be close. I say "can" because electrics vary a lot more and they will slow down when the load decreases.
Interestingly, the fastest electric is faster than the fastest gas in terms of blade tip speed 208mph (120v redman electric) vs 199 Honda residential mower.
That said, the Redman120v isn't a very good mower IMO (given other attributes) as its run time is significantly shorter than other mowers.
That said, Greenworks 189mph and Ego 199mph rank right there with gas-powered mowers and both are excellent choices.
In a comparison between gas and electric, mowers were pushed through 8" of dense grass (I believe in a mulch cut, but not 100% sure) and the Ego beat the top-selling gas brands like Honda, Husqvarna, Snapper etc in terms of how far it went under those conditions before it bogged down and stopped.
That said, the performance on electrics varies wildly and the price is no indication of performance the way it is with gas mowers. Do your homework!
The difference is more than that, my Snapper 82 volt turns at 2000 rpm normally and under increased load speeds up to 2800 rpm. Gas mowers turn at a steady 3600 rpm. My electric bags leafs and grass very well and has very good cut quality. I think it shows that you don't need 5hp to cut grass, the electric puts out 1.3hp at high speed. It is electric for me.
I bought an EGO blower a couple years ago and the battery stopped taking charge after only a little over a year. Right now Lowe’s list a replacement battery for $179 in my area. What a ripoff.
I’ll never buy an electric gardening tool again.
Get a gas powered Toro best lawnmower ever super reliable last you a long time
Like gas
the toro election one at the Sunshine day around 30 degrees hot, it will over heat or not? Because I buy the milwaukee mower, and I use it at around 30 degrees Milwaukee one can not work! 😢
At least with the electric mower, you can cut the grass in the early morning without waking up the neighbors.
Sometimes the loud noise reminds the neighbors that they need to get up and mow also
what is the battery made like CHIAN or USA
I have a Gas riding mower and a battery push for the area's I cant use the rider. I Love the battery mower, the cut quality is great. When my gas mower wears out, I'm hoping Battery riding mowers are really great by then. I'm just shy of an acre.
They are getting better and better. In the next year or 2 someone has to release an awesome one! Then everyone else will follow.
I have the Craftsman v60 mower it's great.wonder how it stacks up to Craftsman gas?
Hmmm Interesting video.
The toro actually has a better motor and a battery then the craftsman my son works a a store that sells both and lots of craftsman are being returned and only one toro they said it was to heavy so they went with a plastic deck ego
The back wheels is making the difference
Takes 1/2 hour to mow my lawn . Had a mower with cord ,was OK. 7 years stopped working. Bought two different cordless. Not any good. Bought a gas gas mower ,like I had 20 years ago. It eats up any grass up to a foot high.
Did you have the mulch plug in that electric one?
There isn't a mulch plug, it has a lever that opens and shuts the chute. Up to mulch, down to bag.
Is the electric mower heavier? That could've affected the mulching test at the same height setting and is an interesting difference to notice for sure.
hmmmm
Top video guys
Wow great test never would have thought that mulching would be that different 👍👊
Thanks 👍
our 36v cannot suck the leaves and grass off the ground cuts sure but cannot clear debris it is > 10 yrs old cuts fine but no vacuum power
I like the new forced negative idea.
Gas is much much better
Gas still rules! Maybe in 5-7 years when better battery ntech and electronics improves maybe than it will be worth it
one major advantage i like about the electric tools over gas is not having to pull start them... Especially some of the older tools i have with the manual choke and primer bulb and remembering to open the fuel valve, and the first start when i forget to do everything the first few times it ends up taking a lot of energy trying to pull start through my own stupidity.
I'll probably be replacing much of my old commercial equipment with electric stuff as they fail. but at 15+ years old it doesn't seem like the honda shindaiwa or stihl stuff will ever die...
Does every gas mower on the market have a Briggs & Stratton engine?!
Good stuff
The 21387 is a Briggs and Stratton engine stow and go
Zero turn mower is wars! Let’s see Exmark vs Hustler vs Wright vs Ferris vs etc.
Ha those are commercial probably more for Stanley the dirt monkey :)
Gas is the best
Awesome video. Can you do a battery vs gas for the riding mowers.
Hmm interesting! Yes we will try
If the cordless had a power over ride button it probably would’ve done just as good as the gas on the leaves.
I wouldn’t change my Troy build Honda engine mower for nothing,always starts on first pull,fresh gas,old gas doesn’t make a difference,I only change the oil once a year.Sometimes I can’t cut the grass due to rain,and it rains a lot here,and when I have the chance to do it between rain breaks,there is no problem cutting extra tall grass.My grass is thick,no place for electric mowers.
What accent do the two gents have. Is that the mid-west accent?
Wondering the same. They sound like Wisconsinites to me. Lol.
my ego battery died at 3 years, just when the warranty went out.