Love the Bigfoot series Cliff. I believe that most stories have truth in them somewhere. Me, myself, I think there is something to the Bigfoot stories as there is just to many sightings. Can everyone of them be fake?
Good video . Thanks for the history info. I talked to a older man who saw something similar to what you are describing in southeast Alabama near Pea river about 50 years ago
A friend once said that my walks in nature's parklands and forests must be much like deep sea diving. I had to agree. I dive in and do my best to deep see into the world(s) around me.
Cliff, I love Cryptozoology knowing that many species of plants and animal that existed within Human recall have gone instinct for a number of reasons, but mostly us. so, there is always a possibility, no matter how unlikely, that some small humanoid creature lived on our Continent. Bigfoot, not so much, they would need numbers to survive, so with modern technology, where could they hide, especially with sightings close to modern developments. I really like your thoughtful and studied approach to this mythology. I live in the Upper Pacific Northwest, the home of "Bigfoot" sightings since 2013 and have never heard of any ape like creatures, of course they have the "Bigfoot Restaurant", at Seatac INternational Airport:) Best Wishes, Frederick "Rik" Spector
I'm not saying there are or aren't such creatures here. But as a point of comparison, there are over 15k black bears in PA and how often do any of us see them besides those who foolishly actively feed them? I find their scat in my yard on a regular basis, but I've only had maybe a dozen or so sightings over the past 40+ years, most of which has been spent living in rural woodland areas where these animals thrive and are highly active and not particularly shy about humans.
A statement I find humorous is, "Mention his name and his aura lights up." Judging from my past experiences with natural phenomena: "Do not forget your sense of humor." What truth could lie beneath? "There is nothing to fear but fear itself."
No reason why it wasn’t there. Lots of bush where they could live. So much out there we don’t know. If the Native Americans believe in them then I would go along with them. Thanks for taking me along, please stay safe and take care
Nice walk and story of a creature. I would think the native Americans had their legends/stories to tell the children just as Germans, Italians, Irish, English, etc. have. I think this is just a story about a cub/bear that lived on/in the woods that stole food if you were not alert. It probably was meant to teach the children to watch and protect food as I think there was little of it. Handed down and embellished by others who came along later they live on. You know, the old "Once upon a time, long ago"................story we all loved as children but had a life's lesson to be learned too.
I went on a picnic there, with a then-girlfriend in 1986. I remember us joking about seeing a Bigfoot while there. No sighting, just a pleasant time. I still live in the area.
So, my nephew had 2 sightings very close together, my brother was there for one of them (they are not Bigfoot fanatics), of an upright creature that was splashing in the creek that runs thru their farm. Vegetation blocked some of their view, but it was not a deer, and not a bear, and was not human either. Shortly after that, 2 of his friends were further down, different property, same creek towards evening time-no one would have been down there, not an occupied area-and for fun they did a "bigfoot"type call. Something very close answered back....it was definitely not a human voice, not a coyote either. This was in North central Ohio farm country. Since then, no other sightings, so its possible it was wandering thru. Does Bigfoot exist? My opinion is yes, a distinct possibility!
Maybe in pre-settler times, but too many people after that. Growing up in York County some of the old timers used "Arbatrotch" as a catch all term for wild animals that robbed gardens, hen houses, did boogeyman type stuff, etc. I think maybe a PA German folktale along the lines of The Long Lost Friend.
I think I saw an albatwitch up in Tioga county. It was like a sasquatch, but only about 4ft or 5ft tall and of a very slender build. If a sasquatch looks like a gorilla/man cross, this was like a monkey/man cross. I assumed it to be a juvenile sasquatch, but it may have been an albatwitch.
A great bit of history just days away from... Albatwitch day Saturday, October 8th, 11:00 AM - 5:00 PM Haunted Trolley Tour Artists, Authors, Family Fun, Food, Lectures, Music, Tours, and Vendors Happening in Columbia, PA
It’s fun listening to all your info on the old lore. You forgot to bring your apples! I think the first wild man in literature is Enki-du from Epic of Gilgamesh c.2100 BC. I’ve always imagined that these stories are a blend of boogeyman tales and attempts to grapple with long passed down stories of prior hominids that became extinct during evolution.
There is a medical condition where a person's body is covered by hair completely. There were brothers that were called the Wolf Boys that were stars in a Mexican Circus. CSI did an episode about a brother and sister that had the condition. Back a century ago a person with this condition could of lived in the area shun by family and others.
Hello cliff great story nice Trail still on the fence about that creature that could have been a small bear on his hind legs let's not forget stories get twisted over the years love from upstate New York
It seems logical that a population of some size would have to exist to keep the species alive. An odd sighting every few years in such a small area doesn't really support their existence today. Did they live in the past? If they don't live today, and yet there are contemporary sightings, then people are seeing what's not there. In which case the chreatures were probably never there to be seen in the first place. I'm skeptical on this one. But I really enjoy the series. The trail was beautiful..
I think that these small or large people were humans BUT had physical defects and were ostracized by society and their only option was to live in the woods. To survive they had to steal etc.
That makes sense. There's always a small %age of babies born with deformities. Centuries ago this type of thing wasn't well understood, if a baby was born mis-shapen in some way, or had certain behavioral problems, they'd often say he was possessed by a demon or the mother was a witch and cast them out of the village; especially if there was something like a drought or natural disaster happening around the same time. I bet a lot of old 'stories' about "giants" , "ogres", and "bridge trolls" etc come from these kids, all-growed-up, living ferally at the edges of towns and villages.
Another thought-provoking subject during a relaxing walk. Again where are the archeological signs that this species existed? fossil remains or skeletal would support such a species like this. Or lore that was inspired by the Indians of ages past of a young bear in low light seen standing on its hind legs after climbing down a tree stealing food that was left unguarded.
I believe that there is some truth... but again when I was a teenager living between Elizabethtown/Bainbridge/Rheems area , I believe I saw a bigfoot while hiking deep within a wooded area not far from where Timber Villa is today.. and the fruit orchard is near Masonic Village. In being a teenager, and in hiking by myself when I saw what I believe is or was a bigfoot, I took off running in the opposite direction... What I remember is that it had dark hair all over its body... was standing on 2 feet and was loping towards my direction which was downhill from its original location that I saw it. It was tall .. over 6 foot from appearances compared to my own height which was barely over 5 foot tall. No I do not believe what I saw was a black bear although black bears had been seen relatively in that area as well... The reason I believe it was a bigfoot and not a bear has to do with speed in which it loping down that hill towards me on only 2 feet. while bears can certainly stand on 2 feet and perhaps even walk a few feet on their hind legs and not on all 4.. I have sincere doubts about a bear loping in a jogging or loping downhill on 2 feet when it would have been much easier if it was a bear to be on 4 legs and not 2....
The older tales of the hairy man seem more true makes me less skeptical the indians would of seen I think more of how things were and tales of truth wonder if there is any siteings ever in north central pa thanks for ur efforts I gain knowledge everytime and u talk like plenty of my old professors
Hi im from Germany as Cliff knows. Elwetritschle are from palatia and is a fairy tale about creatures with funny behaviour also Applesnitch is in palatian and swabian Cutted apple in quarters or more little.
Good story and hike 👍🏼.
Great video I live 3 blocks away from that area in Columbia pa ty Steve
Hi Cliff, I would say that there is always a grain of truth to any legends.
Thank you for sharing, much love. xx ❤
Love the story! No idea "big foot" went that far back. You would almost never know industry was ever there. Nature made a come back.
Thanks cliff for talking about this stuff very interesting
I enjoy meditating on the universal traits that humanity envisions in its legendary characters.
Love the Bigfoot series Cliff. I believe that most stories have truth in them somewhere. Me, myself, I think there is something to the Bigfoot stories as there is just to many sightings. Can everyone of them be fake?
Good video . Thanks for the history info.
I talked to a older man who saw something similar to what you are describing in southeast Alabama near Pea river about 50 years ago
I am the albatwitch hunter. See you all next october 2024.
Everyone has their Lore, including Native Americans. There is always a grain of truth there somewhere.😎
A friend once said that my walks in nature's parklands and forests must be much like deep sea diving. I had to agree. I dive in and do my best to deep see into the world(s) around me.
I think Yogi and BooBoo were stealing pickinic baskets way back when, and the story changed into sightings of a Bigfoot creature.
Cliff,
I love Cryptozoology knowing that many species of plants and animal that existed
within Human recall have gone instinct for a number of reasons, but mostly us.
so, there is always a possibility, no matter how unlikely, that some small humanoid creature lived on our Continent.
Bigfoot, not so much, they would need numbers to survive, so with modern technology, where could they hide, especially with sightings close to modern developments.
I really like your thoughtful and studied approach to this mythology.
I live in the Upper Pacific Northwest, the home of "Bigfoot" sightings since 2013 and have
never heard of any ape like creatures, of course they have the "Bigfoot Restaurant", at Seatac INternational Airport:)
Best Wishes,
Frederick "Rik" Spector
I'm not saying there are or aren't such creatures here. But as a point of comparison, there are over 15k black bears in PA and how often do any of us see them besides those who foolishly actively feed them? I find their scat in my yard on a regular basis, but I've only had maybe a dozen or so sightings over the past 40+ years, most of which has been spent living in rural woodland areas where these animals thrive and are highly active and not particularly shy about humans.
A statement I find humorous is, "Mention his name and his aura lights up." Judging from my past experiences with natural phenomena: "Do not forget your sense of humor." What truth could lie beneath? "There is nothing to fear but fear itself."
You missed the Albatwitch festival by one weekend
No reason why it wasn’t there. Lots of bush where they could live. So much out there we don’t know. If the Native Americans believe in them then I would go along with them. Thanks for taking me along, please stay safe and take care
Nice walk and story of a creature. I would think the native Americans had their legends/stories to tell the children just as Germans, Italians, Irish, English, etc. have. I think this is just a story about a cub/bear that lived on/in the woods that stole food if you were not alert. It probably was meant to teach the children to watch and protect food as I think there was little of it. Handed down and embellished by others who came along later they live on. You know, the old "Once upon a time, long ago"................story we all loved as children but had a life's lesson to be learned too.
I went on a picnic there, with a then-girlfriend in 1986. I remember us joking about seeing a Bigfoot while there. No sighting, just a pleasant time.
I still live in the area.
So, my nephew had 2 sightings very close together, my brother was there for one of them (they are not Bigfoot fanatics), of an upright creature that was splashing in the creek that runs thru their farm. Vegetation blocked some of their view, but it was not a deer, and not a bear, and was not human either. Shortly after that, 2 of his friends were further down, different property, same creek towards evening time-no one would have been down there, not an occupied area-and for fun they did a "bigfoot"type call. Something very close answered back....it was definitely not a human voice, not a coyote either. This was in North central Ohio farm country. Since then, no other sightings, so its possible it was wandering thru.
Does Bigfoot exist? My opinion is yes, a distinct possibility!
Maybe in pre-settler times, but too many people after that. Growing up in York County some of the old timers used "Arbatrotch" as a catch all term for wild animals that robbed gardens, hen houses, did boogeyman type stuff, etc. I think maybe a PA German folktale along the lines of The Long Lost Friend.
I think I saw an albatwitch up in Tioga county. It was like a sasquatch, but only about 4ft or 5ft tall and of a very slender build. If a sasquatch looks like a gorilla/man cross, this was like a monkey/man cross. I assumed it to be a juvenile sasquatch, but it may have been an albatwitch.
A theorem: Synchronistic synthesis of archetypal imagery.
A great bit of history just days away from...
Albatwitch day
Saturday, October 8th, 11:00 AM - 5:00 PM Haunted Trolley Tour
Artists, Authors, Family Fun, Food, Lectures, Music, Tours, and Vendors
Happening in Columbia, PA
Maybe if you carried an apple you could entice him in!
It’s fun listening to all your info on the old lore. You forgot to bring your apples! I think the first wild man in literature is Enki-du from Epic of Gilgamesh c.2100 BC. I’ve always imagined that these stories are a blend of boogeyman tales and attempts to grapple with long passed down stories of prior hominids that became extinct during evolution.
There is an annual albatwitch festival in Columbia
Interesting story. There are many stories. If there are such beings, could they be Neanderthals? What ever they are, they should be left alone.
There is a medical condition where a person's body is covered by hair completely. There were brothers that were called the Wolf Boys that were stars in a Mexican Circus. CSI did an episode about a brother and sister that had the condition. Back a century ago a person with this condition could of lived in the area shun by family and others.
That's a nice trail.. makes me want to buy a bike lol
Hello cliff great story nice Trail still on the fence about that creature that could have been a small bear on his hind legs let's not forget stories get twisted over the years love from upstate New York
Set up some hidden trail cams.
Makes me think of Hexankopf Rock in Williams Twsp. in Northampton Co. lots of spookiness 👻🎃
YES , I believe it , big time 🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄
It seems logical that a population of some size would have to exist to keep the species alive. An odd sighting every few years in such a small area doesn't really support their existence today. Did they live in the past? If they don't live today, and yet there are contemporary sightings, then people are seeing what's not there. In which case the chreatures were probably never there to be seen in the first place. I'm skeptical on this one. But I really enjoy the series. The trail was beautiful..
Hey Cliff this Saturday is the Albatwitch Festival in Columbia at Columbia Crossing I'm planning to attend this event maybe we can meet there
I think that these small or large people were humans BUT had physical defects and were ostracized by society and their only option was to live in the woods. To survive they had to steal etc.
That makes sense. There's always a small %age of babies born with deformities. Centuries ago this type of thing wasn't well understood, if a baby was born mis-shapen in some way, or had certain behavioral problems, they'd often say he was possessed by a demon or the mother was a witch and cast them out of the village; especially if there was something like a drought or natural disaster happening around the same time. I bet a lot of old 'stories' about "giants" , "ogres", and "bridge trolls" etc come from these kids, all-growed-up, living ferally at the edges of towns and villages.
Hmmm, wonder if the 'Albatwitch' was the inspiration for 'Cousin Itt'' ?
It sounds much like the Jersey Devil that resides in the Pine Barrens of South Jersey.
I totally believe it’s native Americans , there are skinwalkers that can change their shape also
Another thought-provoking subject during a relaxing walk. Again where are the archeological signs that this species existed? fossil remains or skeletal would support such a species like this. Or lore that was inspired by the Indians of ages past of a young bear in low light seen standing on its hind legs after climbing down a tree stealing food that was left unguarded.
I believe it is possible.
was that trial a rails to trails path?
Northwest river trail.
Sounds like a bear
I believe that there is some truth... but again when I was a teenager living between Elizabethtown/Bainbridge/Rheems area , I believe I saw a bigfoot while hiking deep within a wooded area not far from where Timber Villa is today.. and the fruit orchard is near Masonic Village. In being a teenager, and in hiking by myself when I saw what I believe is or was a bigfoot, I took off running in the opposite direction... What I remember is that it had dark hair all over its body... was standing on 2 feet and was loping towards my direction which was downhill from its original location that I saw it. It was tall .. over 6 foot from appearances compared to my own height which was barely over 5 foot tall.
No I do not believe what I saw was a black bear although black bears had been seen relatively in that area as well... The reason I believe it was a bigfoot and not a bear has to do with speed in which it loping down that hill towards me on only 2 feet. while bears can certainly stand on 2 feet and perhaps even walk a few feet on their hind legs and not on all 4.. I have sincere doubts about a bear loping in a jogging or loping downhill on 2 feet when it would have been much easier if it was a bear to be on 4 legs and not 2....
It sounds like juvenile bigfoot to me. 🤓
I want to know about the little big foot
The older tales of the hairy man seem more true makes me less skeptical the indians would of seen I think more of how things were and tales of truth wonder if there is any siteings ever in north central pa thanks for ur efforts I gain knowledge everytime and u talk like plenty of my old professors
but there would be skeaton
cousin It
not my scene or tunnels with tons spiders or whatever or paranormal in them Im Spiritual Man i like railway tunnels
Hi im from Germany as Cliff knows.
Elwetritschle
are from palatia and is a fairy tale about creatures with funny behaviour
also
Applesnitch
is in palatian and swabian
Cutted apple in quarters or more little.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elwetritsch