😍, perfect for one person traveling nurse and who needs to make the bed out for one person just take off the backrest cushions and it’s a twin bed. Love all the storage. The fridge is great as well. Good entry level price too. Thanks 😊
Thank you for your video. I have been looking at a lot of class B vans, I prefer the short ones 19 or 18 feet long. I like the thor layout the best with the bath in the rear and a very open space to hangout and an easy way to set up the bed. Unfortunately I read a lot of bad reviews about the quality and craftmanship of these RV's. Have the new ones corrected these issues. Thanks!
That van is almost as beautiful as you look today. I love the van but I'd prefer a full-time bed. The price on this one is pretty good too. Thanks Ruby for the walkthrough. Cheers 😘😘😘
Good to hear from you. The bed is a bit of a disappointment but the price is not bad. Without making the sofa into a bed, the bed could be used as a twin bed for a single person once all the cushions are removed. Thanks for Watching my videos!
I see this version has the seatbelts for the sitting area (bed). Is this an option or should all 20K have them? I ask because I cannot locate my seatbelts on my 20K...so wondering if I'm not looking hard enough or they may not have been included. Thanks if you read this :)
Great review Ruby. One observation, please go over the electrical systems. I love the floorplan and would be fine with the bed traveling alone. Room enough for my 5'11" self to sleep with a spot for my CPAP on the aft side table. A Murphy bed would block the windows, perhaps a jack-knife sofa instead of the pull out set up with the cushion jamboree/origami. I think the overall power system gets overlooked. The propane/lithium combo is a game changer IMHO. Factory 3,000 watt inverter with 200 amp hours of lithium standard and the option of the 460 amp hour upgrade, while still keeping the propane for heat, 2 burner cooking and hot water. Bonus point for the convection microwave. Not sure if the coach AC will run off the batteries with the Re(Li)able 460Ah Power Pack. If so, this power system will be a boondocking beast combined with the auto start under hood generator. Still a beast with the 200 amp hour base lithium if you don't need to run the AC. Put this floorplan in the new Ford Transit Trail AWD chassis and call me a customer (preferably with a Jack-Knife sofa instead of the cushion jamboree/origami).
I agree the electrical system is one of the most important aspects of a great off-grid (boondocking) RV. Unfortunately, I have not seen a really great lithium system yet, but they are improving each year. I agree that current RVs need both a propane system as well as a generator until such time as we have a lithium/solar system that is capable of continuously powering a RV. Thank you for watching and supporting my channel!
I have a 20j tellero and think I'd miss the garage area, popup & easy to assemble bed but the interior storage space, refrig and bathroom in the sequence sure looks nice.
It is hard to trust their quality though. I have seen one youtuber having that sink in the shower break and another one there was water leaking from the ceiling fan area, also other issues as well. Hopefully this new model is better.
I think it's safe to say there is no longer a shortage of Class B RV's. Looks like the dealer lot (I assume you're at an RV dealer) you're on is filled with them! Thanks for the great content - really enjoy your RV tours.
Hello Mike, La Mesa RV in FORT MYERS definitely has ordered many B-Class RVs and does have a lot in stock. Thanks for the compliment and Thanks for Watching my videos!
Like some of the updates from the 2023. Not a bad for two people, maybe retired, traveling, or a couple who work remote. The bed is a bit cumbersome to setup but, again, it’s a class B, so there are always compromises. Great review Ruby, always enjoy your thorough reviews and your insight.
Hello Merlin, Thanks for the compliment. I agree that the bed required more effort than many people would care to exert . Thanks for watching my videos!
I will be glad when the new higher roof promaster van is released in the United States. A lot of people can't stand up in the current promaster platform. Nice job on the tour 👍
"I will be glad when the new higher roof promaster van is released in the United States. " Yeah what is it with the Promaster being 8 years behind? The Promaster is based on the Fiat Ducato which had an upgrade way back in 2015, but RAM are still using the 2014 model in 2023?
Nice overview. Thank you. The sofa makes an easy twin bed for a solo traveler without needing to extend it. Not too bad otherwise either. [Hey, people, this is for campers, not cry babies. 😄] Do you know if the air conditioner will run on the inverter and batteries? Would like to see more windows that open. Perhaps aftermarket items can be used on the front door windows to shield rain, provide screens & airflow, and security when sleeping.
Hello Rick, I think this would be a great layout if you did not need to pull out the bed and yes the AC will run off the inverter. Thanks for Watching!
I bet of they ever get around to offering The Ram with an All Wheel Drive system and worked the suspension, they'd sell a bunch more of these B Vans! Not for real off roading but to gives you more security in inclement weather, especially for those that love too venture out in the winter months!
@@billredding2000 I was thinking I'd have to put something on the floor to keep it from sliding out, easily enough to do. But I backed out of it and am getting my 2011 21QB fixed instead.
@@geocacherny7030 I don't have my RV (at least not YET)...but if the housing market continues it's "inflationary" trajectory (as the auto-truck market has been as well), I may be priced-out of a house/town-home/condo (I already AM here in CO -- going back to TX shortly!). In that case, an "also overpriced" $200K Class B will be a STEAL in comparison to a bricks & mortar property. ;-) Happy Travels, -- BR
As a camper van fan I was surprised by how much I like the floor plan. Setting up the bed looks like a pain but it beats sleepn on the floor. Thor does a good job with the decor too. Quality? That's debatable.
At least it's not built on the ubiquitous Mercedes-Benz Sprinter (diesel) chassis, even if the ProMaster isn't that great of a Class B platform (and anemic as its gas engine is). Hopefully we'll see more Bs being built on Ford Transits, even though their AWD Transits SHOULD also be available in true 4x4 -- I mean Ford DOES know how to make 4x4 vehicles, yes? Imagine a B with Ford's FX4 package (and lift). Nice...and that would give MB/Sprinter "4x4s" like the Winnebago Revel and Jayco Terrain( ?) a run for their money AND challenge MB's long-time dominance in the Class B RV segment. Still, it seems ProMaster and Transit-based Class Bs aren't out in enough numbers yet to do that...and a true 4x4/lifted model isn't even on the ProMaster or Transit radar. -- BR
@@billredding2000 Completely agree! I never understood why Ford didnt offer 4x4 in the transit. I am seeing more adventure van builds on the Transit now but MB still dominates.
@@richbowie76 For a few years now, the off-roading/over-landing/boon-docking segment (which has been GROWING) of the Class B buyers have been asking for more capable Class B RVs. Only when Winnebago's Revel came out did we see some movement in that direction. But that was a few years ago, and that's STILL all we've had -- except for the Jayco clone of the Revel. Aside from being SLOW to innovate, the Class B makers seem to be deaf, or, just refuse to get serious about more-capable "camping way out in the sticks" vehicles. Even Dean Rumple of Pleasure-Way -- who keeps touting how "innovative" they are -- is missing the irony of that claim because P-W is NOT that "innovative" when it comes to going farther off the beaten path to camp. It's really silly how SLOW the Class B industry moves... Well, maybe in 2 years of so when I can afford one (when my Jeep Gladiator is paid-off and I have $200K+ of spare change under the couch pillows) there WILL be more capable Class B available...but I'm not counting on it. -- BR
Hello Rich, I agree that this floor plan is good but the Bed system needs a complete redesign. The decor was nice and Thor has had some quality issues so a very good PDI should be done. Thanks for Watching!
It's nice to see compressor refrigerators in them instead of the old type. Really, still seeing the old/obsolete and poorly-performing absorption/ammonia-based refrigerators in BRAND NEW RVs today has become boring and tiresome. We dance now... -- Dieter (SNL's "Sprockets" sketches, 1980s)
What would be innovative would be to bring back the Winnebago Rialta Q, on a Dodge Promaster, with Cassette toilet, tankless hot water , blue tooth, wifi, upgraded generator and batteries
@@Adventure-Mom literally the night before it was going to finally be ready, I don't know how, but I ended up on the floor in my living room and like that TV commercial, I couldn't get up! I was finally able to use my nose to operate my cell to call a friend who came to rescue me. Was on the floor 11 hours! I took it as a Sign! So instead I'm having my C fixed up... New toilet because it was leaking, which was what started this whole journey.. and now the old RV is waiting for parts so who knows when that'll be done!
Love this RV. Remove sofa with one thousand cushions for reclining sofa with a couple of throw pillows which were in cabinet! Wish they had different color RV. Only white,silver, charcoal. Would like to see a blue or red color like Winnebago has! Great storage and bathroom is awesome! Kitchen very functional, nice layout! Great review!
Hello Max, One of the biggest negatives I hear all the time is around the looks / style of the Ram platform and I agree that there are other layouts that suit my needs better. Thanks for the support and watching my videos!
why would they make a sofa like that? - lose that mess and put in 2 theater seats that lay flat / this is a seeing the country van not a live in RV,/ drive for a day or 2 / nap when you get tried, / hit the road / pit stop at a hotel for a day or 2 hit the road again / too many drawers lose a few of those and make storage space for luggage / bring that microwave forward /lose the drawers under the fridge and make it a bigger . other than that it's pretty much perfect --other than that (:
I enjoyed this video so much. I hope you never stop making videos.
Thanks for the compliment and Thanks for watching my videos!
😍, perfect for one person traveling nurse and who needs to make the bed out for one person just take off the backrest cushions and it’s a twin bed. Love all the storage. The fridge is great as well. Good entry level price too. Thanks 😊
Hello Abigail, I agree that this would be a great layout if you use the bed as a twin without pulling it out. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your video. I have been looking at a lot of class B vans, I prefer the short ones 19 or 18 feet long. I like the thor layout the best with the bath in the rear and a very open space to hangout and an easy way to set up the bed. Unfortunately I read a lot of bad reviews about the quality and craftmanship of these RV's. Have the new ones corrected these issues.
Thanks!
Hi Ruby another great tour of this van. As always you look so sweet and lovely. ❤️🌹💕
Hello Max, Thank you so much 😀
That van is almost as beautiful as you look today. I love the van but I'd prefer a full-time bed. The price on this one is pretty good too. Thanks Ruby for the walkthrough. Cheers 😘😘😘
Good to hear from you. The bed is a bit of a disappointment but the price is not bad. Without making the sofa into a bed, the bed could be used as a twin bed for a single person once all the cushions are removed. Thanks for Watching my videos!
I see this version has the seatbelts for the sitting area (bed). Is this an option or should all 20K have them? I ask because I cannot locate my seatbelts on my 20K...so wondering if I'm not looking hard enough or they may not have been included. Thanks if you read this :)
All in all I’d say good value I really like the cabinet style. Thank you nice job.
Thanks for the compliment and Thanks for watching!
This is a really smart design.
I agree the layout is great but Thor needs to reconsider the complicated bed design. Thanks for watching!
Nice job
Hello, I am glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you so much for watching! 😊
Great review Ruby. One observation, please go over the electrical systems.
I love the floorplan and would be fine with the bed traveling alone. Room enough for my 5'11" self to sleep with a spot for my CPAP on the aft side table. A Murphy bed would block the windows, perhaps a jack-knife sofa instead of the pull out set up with the cushion jamboree/origami.
I think the overall power system gets overlooked. The propane/lithium combo is a game changer IMHO. Factory 3,000 watt inverter with 200 amp hours of lithium standard and the option of the 460 amp hour upgrade, while still keeping the propane for heat, 2 burner cooking and hot water. Bonus point for the convection microwave.
Not sure if the coach AC will run off the batteries with the Re(Li)able 460Ah Power Pack. If so, this power system will be a boondocking beast combined with the auto start under hood generator. Still a beast with the 200 amp hour base lithium if you don't need to run the AC.
Put this floorplan in the new Ford Transit Trail AWD chassis and call me a customer (preferably with a Jack-Knife sofa instead of the cushion jamboree/origami).
I agree the electrical system is one of the most important aspects of a great off-grid (boondocking) RV. Unfortunately, I have not seen a really great lithium system yet, but they are improving each year. I agree that current RVs need both a propane system as well as a generator until such time as we have a lithium/solar system that is capable of continuously powering a RV. Thank you for watching and supporting my channel!
I have a 20j tellero and think I'd miss the garage area, popup & easy to assemble bed but the interior storage space, refrig and bathroom in the sequence sure looks nice.
I agree that the best features in this RV are the Rear bath, Storage, and refrigerator. Thanks for watching!
It is hard to trust their quality though. I have seen one youtuber having that sink in the shower break and another one there was water leaking from the ceiling fan area, also other issues as well. Hopefully this new model is better.
I think it's safe to say there is no longer a shortage of Class B RV's. Looks like the dealer lot (I assume you're at an RV dealer) you're on is filled with them! Thanks for the great content - really enjoy your RV tours.
Hello Mike, La Mesa RV in FORT MYERS definitely has ordered many B-Class RVs and does have a lot in stock. Thanks for the compliment and Thanks for Watching my videos!
Like some of the updates from the 2023. Not a bad for two people, maybe retired, traveling, or a couple who work remote. The bed is a bit cumbersome to setup but, again, it’s a class B, so there are always compromises. Great review Ruby, always enjoy your thorough reviews and your insight.
Hello Merlin, Thanks for the compliment. I agree that the bed required more effort than many people would care to exert . Thanks for watching my videos!
I will be glad when the new higher roof promaster van is released in the United States.
A lot of people can't stand up in the current promaster platform.
Nice job on the tour 👍
Thanks for the compliment and Thanks for Watching!
"I will be glad when the new higher roof promaster van is released in the United States. "
Yeah what is it with the Promaster being 8 years behind? The Promaster is based on the Fiat Ducato which had an upgrade way back in 2015, but RAM are still using the 2014 model in 2023?
The gear shifter looks hilarious 😂
Hello Paublo, Thanks for watching!
Nice overview. Thank you.
The sofa makes an easy twin bed for a solo traveler without needing to extend it. Not too bad otherwise either. [Hey, people, this is for campers, not cry babies. 😄]
Do you know if the air conditioner will run on the inverter and batteries?
Would like to see more windows that open. Perhaps aftermarket items can be used on the front door windows to shield rain, provide screens & airflow, and security when sleeping.
Hello Rick, I think this would be a great layout if you did not need to pull out the bed and yes the AC will run off the inverter. Thanks for Watching!
I bet of they ever get around to offering The Ram with an All Wheel Drive system and worked the suspension, they'd sell a bunch more of these B Vans!
Not for real off roading but to gives you more security in inclement weather, especially for those that love too venture out in the winter months!
I agree that the Ram needs a better suspension and it would be nice if the Ram had AWD. Thanks for watching!
I was planning on only opening the bed with one cushion so there was room to walk back and forth.
Yes...I would think if there's only a one-person owner/traveler, that would be the way to do it (no need for the full-size bed layout).
-- BR
@@billredding2000 I was thinking I'd have to put something on the floor to keep it from sliding out, easily enough to do. But I backed out of it and am getting my 2011 21QB fixed instead.
@@geocacherny7030 I don't have my RV (at least not YET)...but if the housing market continues it's "inflationary" trajectory (as the auto-truck market has been as well), I may be priced-out of a house/town-home/condo (I already AM here in CO -- going back to TX shortly!). In that case, an "also overpriced" $200K Class B will be a STEAL in comparison to a bricks & mortar property. ;-)
Happy Travels,
-- BR
That could work for some people. IMO this bed needs to be redesigned, maybe a pull out sofa bed or a type of Murphy bed. Thanks for Watching!
I believe I could watch you show anything
Thanks for the compliment and Thanks for Watching!
As a camper van fan I was surprised by how much I like the floor plan. Setting up the bed looks like a pain but it beats sleepn on the floor. Thor does a good job with the decor too. Quality? That's debatable.
At least it's not built on the ubiquitous Mercedes-Benz Sprinter (diesel) chassis, even if the ProMaster isn't that great of a Class B platform (and anemic as its gas engine is). Hopefully we'll see more Bs being built on Ford Transits, even though their AWD Transits SHOULD also be available in true 4x4 -- I mean Ford DOES know how to make 4x4 vehicles, yes? Imagine a B with Ford's FX4 package (and lift). Nice...and that would give MB/Sprinter "4x4s" like the Winnebago Revel and Jayco Terrain( ?) a run for their money AND challenge MB's long-time dominance in the Class B RV segment. Still, it seems ProMaster and Transit-based Class Bs aren't out in enough numbers yet to do that...and a true 4x4/lifted model isn't even on the ProMaster or Transit radar.
-- BR
@@billredding2000 Completely agree! I never understood why Ford didnt offer 4x4 in the transit. I am seeing more adventure van builds on the Transit now but MB still dominates.
@@richbowie76 For a few years now, the off-roading/over-landing/boon-docking segment (which has been GROWING) of the Class B buyers have been asking for more capable Class B RVs. Only when Winnebago's Revel came out did we see some movement in that direction. But that was a few years ago, and that's STILL all we've had -- except for the Jayco clone of the Revel. Aside from being SLOW to innovate, the Class B makers seem to be deaf, or, just refuse to get serious about more-capable "camping way out in the sticks" vehicles. Even Dean Rumple of Pleasure-Way -- who keeps touting how "innovative" they are -- is missing the irony of that claim because P-W is NOT that "innovative" when it comes to going farther off the beaten path to camp.
It's really silly how SLOW the Class B industry moves...
Well, maybe in 2 years of so when I can afford one (when my Jeep Gladiator is paid-off and I have $200K+ of spare change under the couch pillows) there WILL be more capable Class B available...but I'm not counting on it.
-- BR
@@billredding2000 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hello Rich, I agree that this floor plan is good but the Bed system needs a complete redesign. The decor was nice and Thor has had some quality issues so a very good PDI should be done. Thanks for Watching!
THANKS💘
Thanks for Watching!
I found my class b ❤
Hello, I am so glad you found an RV that is right for you. Thank you so much for watching!
The bed is okay but every time you wanna access to the kitchen or to the back you have to remove the bed.... that is kind of work.
It does however have the best refrigerator of all the Bs i looked at.
It's nice to see compressor refrigerators in them instead of the old type. Really, still seeing the old/obsolete and poorly-performing absorption/ammonia-based refrigerators in BRAND NEW RVs today has become boring and tiresome.
We dance now...
-- Dieter
(SNL's "Sprockets" sketches, 1980s)
I agree, this was a very nice sized refrigerator and freezer. Thanks for Watching!
What RV dealer was that at. Best price I find is 110,000 with 200 amp battery system.
This RV was at La Masa RV in FORT MYERS FL. Call Big John at 407-535-1104 for more info and let him know that Ruby sent you. Thanks for Watching!
Ruby, I talked to John at lamesa, he needs the stock number for this unit. They currently are quoting me 125000 for a unit with these specs.
@@jimwiller2079 On the sales price sticker it has FN176194-106300. This is the sticker in the video on the microwave. John should be able to find it.
What would be innovative would be to bring back the Winnebago Rialta Q, on a Dodge Promaster, with Cassette toilet, tankless hot water , blue tooth, wifi, upgraded generator and batteries
Hello Michael, I agree I love the Rialta as it had great interior space. Thanks for Watching!
Why can't they put the Pop top on this model?
There are other RVs with pop tops that may work better for you. Thanks for Watching!
I was buying the Thor Sequence 20K but cancelled the day before it was going to be ready.
What made you decide to cancel? Thanks for watching!
@@Adventure-Mom literally the night before it was going to finally be ready, I don't know how, but I ended up on the floor in my living room and like that TV commercial, I couldn't get up! I was finally able to use my nose to operate my cell to call a friend who came to rescue me.
Was on the floor 11 hours! I took it as a Sign! So instead I'm having my C fixed up... New toilet because it was leaking, which was what started this whole journey.. and now the old RV is waiting for parts so who knows when that'll be done!
Wow
Thanks for Watching!
Thought of pets👍
Hello Michael, it’s great for those that travel with their furry friends! Thanks for watching!
Yeah.. my screen door didn't work well either
The screen door did work but it did not slide as well as it should have. Thanks for Watching!
Love this RV. Remove sofa with one thousand cushions for reclining sofa with a couple of throw pillows which were in cabinet! Wish they had different color RV. Only white,silver, charcoal. Would like to see a blue or red color like Winnebago has! Great storage and bathroom is awesome! Kitchen very functional, nice layout! Great review!
Hello Sharon, I agree the sofa bed needs to be redesigned but I do like the overall layout. Thanks for Watching!
😘❤️👍
Thanks for Watching!
Love the layout and design., hate the puzzle bed. Come on Thor, you can do better than that!
I agree, the bed needs a complete redesign. Thanks for Watching!
And no adaptive cruise control either
That's a PLUS with me: HATE those Driving Nanny features.
-- BR
@@billredding2000 I don't know how it would be in an RV but my MS loves the ACC in my Honda. It helps me greatly
Not on this unit, Thanks for Watching!
American manufactures of class B RV’s need to visit their European counterparts; learn how to make better use of the inside designs
I agree that the EU RVs have some really ingenuitive designs that the US markets need to consider. Thanks for Watching!
Exactly. Most US makers use same tired floor plans
Nice job Ruby, you look sweet in your blue dress. The bed was horrible and i do not like the front style of yhe RAM.
Hello Max, One of the biggest negatives I hear all the time is around the looks / style of the Ram platform and I agree that there are other layouts that suit my needs better. Thanks for the support and watching my videos!
👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for Watching!
why would they make a sofa like that? - lose that mess and put in 2 theater seats that lay flat / this is a seeing the country van not a live in RV,/ drive for a day or 2 / nap when you get tried, / hit the road / pit stop at a hotel for a day or 2 hit the road again / too many drawers lose a few of those and make storage space for luggage / bring that microwave forward /lose the drawers under the fridge and make it a bigger . other than that it's pretty much perfect --other than that (:
I agree that the bed needs a complete redesign, Thanks for Watching!
Perfect, except for that idiotic bed. Come on, THOR, you can do better.
I agree, the bed needs to be redesigned. Thanks for watching!