Reality Is A Strange Loop - The Beauty Of Paradox + GRAPHICS
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Strange Loops - A guided tour through Douglas Hofstadter's paradoxical concept of 'strange loops', and what they reveal about the ultimate nature of existence and consciousness.
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Uploaded early this time. I'll be sure to check this video out first thing in the morning. Too beat right now to have my mind blown. :)
Actualized.org Thanks for your video my brain was raped thanks to you, no really I liked your video
awesome video, I'm super excited. so if nothing looks at itself, it proves its own existence which is illusory. That means there are infinite (which is itself denoted by a loop (horizontal 8)) things looking at themselves and proving their beingness. it feels like the rumours of buddha's teleportation powers come out to be true...... Tadaaaa, *giggle giggle*.[VERY EXCITED] dmawkdjnawldjn
If there were more Leo’s in our western society, holyshit, society would certainly evolve and transform.
Actualized.org it is possible to build why not, limited beliefs systems in us makes us so confined
I am a student of Computer Science. The first time I really understood recursion mathematically I started crying, and never really understood why, but when I noticed all the implications of that phenomena I had a very beautiful experience. I think that's worth sharing.
Definitely 💗🙏
Spiritual experiences happen in many different areas of life 💗🙏 Thank you for Sharing Brother 🙏
That was my reaction to sacred geometry
I cry every time I see a recursive function. Nothing spiritual, I just fucking hate recursion 😁 it's like sticking your head up your ass and swallowing yourself from the inside out... lol
my reaction when I learned about virtual particles
Strange Loopz - the breakfast choice of enlightened kids everywhere!
Brett Wright Funny😂
lol
DK it DanmarkNot DonkeyKong eyy troede jeg var den eneste dansker
Silly rabbit, Loopz are for monks!
Lmao I literally just woke up and started this one
I love that look on Leo's face when he drops some knowledge on us and he looks like a happy little kid with a "I nailed it didn't I" expression in his eyes.
LMAO
You could not expressed it more accurate
And usually some profound thing
Totally 💗 I noticed that 🙏
It is the same kind of face Teal swan 🦢 makes when she talks About different topics 🙏
Telling other kids😅
"Beauty is eternity gazing at itself in a mirror. But you are eternity and you are the mirror." - Kahlil Gibran
Which is why I am not a fan of Gibran. Cosmic Narcissism.
@@thethikboy are you a narcissist when you're the only thing in existence? Narcissism is only possible in comparison to a norm of normal, not narcissistic beings. Can you be overly obsessed with yourself when youre the only thing there is? What else can you think of but yourself?
🔥
...which has absolutely nothing to do with strange loops but rather with so-called "spirutual enlightenment". The "I" is a strange loop. The presence of awareness, which is basically what you're describing in your comment, is simply the ultimate reality of our being.
At around age of 5 , my dad built sets of wardrobes for his room. All doors of the closets had tall mirrors installed on them. When the two side by side closet doors where opened widely, an infinity mirror world would manifest in between. I used to play in between the mirrored doors for hours everyday, looking for my beginnings and my ends. One day, i was so mesmerised by the infinity of the mirrors, that i got lost in them. To this day, I haven't been found again.
Haha, nice!
wow
i used to do that with bathroom cabinets lol
The fact that you manage to talk about strange loops for more than an hour without actually explaining anything about them, having at the same time all the facial and tonal expressions of someone that is successfully explaining the subject, somehow feels like confirming that you in fact are a strange loop.
And the fact that still, given all the above, I totally get what you mean, is a further confirmation that I too am a strange loop.
The thing I like about Leo's videos is they seem to encourage the kind of mindset in which you value the scientific method as one of our greatest tools for exploring reality but don't put it upon the highest of pedestals where every last buck stops.
it's like rock beats scissor, and scissors beats paper and paper beats rock
you got it mah boi.
btw where are you? I cannot see you .
It's like the political system - which is oncorrectly mapped as a linear spectrum from left to right. In actual fact it's a strange loop - where the further you go on either direction the closer you are to coming back out the other side.
From how to make your girlfriend squirt to the fundamental building blocks of reality
They are one! ;)
Leo like a Boss
We've come a long way..
LMFAOO!!
Reminds me of a poem by Rumi:
Gazing at the Light
The lamps are different,
But the Light is the same.
So many garish lamps in the dying brain’s lamp-show,
Forget about them.
Concentrate on the essence, concentrate on the Light.
In lucid bliss, calmly smoking off its own holy fire,
The Light streams towards you from all things,
All people, all possible permutations of good, evil, thought, passion.
The lamps are different,
but the Light is the same.
One matter, one energy, one Light, one Light-mind,
Endlessly emanating all things.
One turning and burning diamond,
One, one, one.
Ground yourself, strip yourself down,
To blind loving silence.
Stay there, until you see
You are gazing at the Light
With its own ageless eyes.
- Jalal-ud-Din Rumi
Holy fuck!
Wow, Rumi poem summarises this whole video.
I need video on Rumi!!!!
Leo, this sort of reminds me of spiral dynamics, which fundamentally shows the ego being built up from nothing to become tolerable enough to let go off and become nothing again
Lawton's Journal wow u just validated my path. Thank u af!
Your channel has 1irrelevant video and 13subscribers
Chintan Desai thanks
What thanks?
This video is superb! I help big-brained people see and orient to This every day, and it is always, always exciting! You've made it fun, too! Thanks so much!
Hey Fred, cool to see you around.
I'm just now posting a link to this on my website. Great, great job, Leo!
I love your stuff Fred. Your channel and Leo's are my favorite on RUclips. Very few people can explain nonduality like you two can.
Sweet ❤️
Yes yes and YES. We live in a zero energy universe because we are nothing, and infinity. It must be an illusion to even exist, it's perfect, and the ultimate life affirming epiphany. Once you get this, you can engage with life again and see that it was made for you, and by you. Much love to you Leo, thank you so much for you work.
+Weston Portman My pleasure :)
Sometimes I have strange glimpses when I am just in the moment. And I thought to myself, “this is it. It just is. It’s perfect. It just is...” and then I got back to being the egoic self.
Keeping doing the work. You're just at the beginning stages.
Fabulous cat on a unicorn I think that everyone that does meditation of some sort does that. What I had also was watching myself do things... or let things just do themselves... Very interesting experiences.
in this video (ruclips.net/video/GfqLdOgoB98/видео.html) leo says at one point "notice that your thoughts are arriving at... NOWHERE" this was the first time I realised that my thoughts are objects just like tables and chairs... there is nothing "internal" about them... at that point I laughed for about 8 hours straight and injured my ribs :) My ego came back after a day and a half. But that was a long glimpse! :O
Which I would say is still part of what is, or are you implying an ego somehow superceeds your prior comment? :)
yeah I know the theory brah... :) but a sense of being separate self is apparently happening here :) and apparently there is also a sense that that's a pity :P
as eckhart tolle wrote it in "The Power of Now" - if you've really understood being - you will BE IT
Hehe, nice
too bad just like ram dass, the guy that started the 'now' stuff that tolle spouts... both those guys never really acheived self realisation. this shows understanding and being are an infinity apart.
I love Speed Levitch's quote from Waking Life as follows:
"An assumption develops that you cannot understand life and live life simultaneously. I do not agree entirely. Which is to say I do not exactly disagree. I would say that life understood is life lived. But the paradoxes bug me, and I can learn to love and make love to the paradoxes that bug me. And on really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
Esteemed Beans So happy to see this quote from this man, from this movie here. Much respect!
ty man, i can only take credit that I let my friend expose me to both. Also the man to show me the wonderful Mushroom. My first awareness exposure to these things, certainly. It's also no coincidence that man is now a champion in his field when we were only a couple of 20 year olds now nearing 30. He had a clue, thankful he shared his perspective with me.
This Video should have an infinite amount of views.
Just give it infinite time
It will always have only one :)
Strangeloop is the ultimate outcome see you in the next life or whatever matter and energy we continue as. Life never ends just enjoy the higher consciousness while we got it.
It does
The degree of profundity of any teaching should be measured by the number of times the teacher says "Tuh-Dah". Thank you Leo 😊
Underrated channel
I am so glad I stumbled across this channel back when I was trying to get over my ex girlfriend!
100% agree with you, same boat. lol
Same here lol when life gets so bad you come to Leo to escape it, and ironically end up becoming it (;
It sometimes feels more like leo found those of us who were struggling by helping us finally make more sense of why everything was happening the way it was. C:
I am trying now and since I already know his latest content I jump straight into the enlightenment thought mind thingy. It's like a super charge
Me for meditation.
Leo is having so much fun. I smile when he smiles. Thank you.
I think you are the only youtuber I see myself watching in 30 years...
Romazho same
same here
I have PTSD from my last trip and am terrified of the realization that i'm in a strange loop. that i've been here before and that this will never end.
This video helped me so much in the fact that I am not alone(and also alone). That there are other people understanding reality in this way. You are a magnificent speaker.
Yes... Leo is amazing 💗
I have just come back to his work after years of not looking and now I found this video 😍... What a beautiful gift 🙏
Sometimes it is nice just to switch of your mind though and drop into your heart ❤️... You will find some peace there Brother 💗🙏 and yes you are most definitely not alone 🥰🌹🙏
I also suffer from PTSD from my last trip, It terrifies me. Truth be told I struggle to watch this video. I know some things can’t be changed but all I want is to be at peace with reality
@@Madrozias learning to manage my anxiety and therapy really helped me overcome my panic. I started going to therapy 3 years ago. after finding the right therapist, learning what a panic/anxiety attack is, and discovering my triggers really helped me. Death and the experience of death is terrifying, and a question as old as time. All we can do is live a good life, and do things we’re proud of while we’re here man. I hope you find peace, although it’s really hard, hang in there and stay away from hallucinogens for a while.
@@Madrozias if I saw this video a year earlier from when I commented, I definitely would’ve had an episode. I feel you
What goes around comes around.
Revolutionary Thinking true
Justin Timberlake.
Hey Leo, you are the only RUclipsr I take seriously. I look forward to every new video to aid in my personal development and how I view reality/non reality. The path to enlightenment is incredible!!
Hey Leo. I was watching this and once it was over I swear I started feeling nauseous. I almost wanted to through up. I study in a hostel so everywhere I went people just.....stared at me. I didn’t know why. Then one of my friends asked, “dude.....are you okay? you looked like you saw a ghost.” i stared at him, confused. Then I looked at myself through the mirror, I was pale and weak looking. I guess these insights were too mind boggling. Thanks Leo
Leo needs to get an award for his ground breaking work. He's got material that nobody else has, he's a trailblazer and highly creative and disciplined person that needs more wide recognition for his work. Any way to nominate him for some sort of award?
Well if not for any other reason than to help spread the knowledge he's been giving to more of humanity.
In one highest level of the strange loop of values, metaphysical content is more practical than the material endeavors people often see as practical. I've come to the same realization when moving toward spirituality and enlightenment. When listening to "experts" speak about enlightenment, they often say many things that seem to suggest the search for enlightenment is a roadblock to enlightenment. When reflecting back to an experience like being at work focusing on entirely practical matters, I realize that in that time I am often fully engaged in what I am doing. This makes me think that in those moments I am closer to enlightenment than when I am thinking about it.
There's some truth in that.
Don't Desire too much to not desire.-Me on behalf of Alan Watts on behalf of some bold dude.
That this sort of material is just out here is just absolutely incredible.
I found this video while researching content related to Francisco Varela's "closed system" concept of self-organizing systems. It brought up Gödel, Escher, Bach (which terms I searched for on RUclips).
As I was initially writing my discussion post for my class, what I wanted to say I felt I couldn't without realizing it's contradictory nature. I've been studying Zen Teaching of Huang Po for months now and its teaching is all I found relevant to what I wanted to say. That's when I started searching and found your video. Not many people, I've found, and that have not passed, that realize this.
Bravo for the excellent explanation, and more so for the actualization.
Mind blown. Thanks for your great work. Tomorrow will be the 200th day in a row that I am meditating.
Arthur Colombini Gusmão wow, awesome. What are your results so far?
My heart was fluttering the whole time when you got to the hardcore points. It's such an alluring topic.
Oh My God Leo. I think I saw it.. Yesterday when I watched this video I had the biggest 'aha a' moment I've ever experienced in my life! In the last exercise I realized how the strange loops existence was solely based on my perception, and at the same time my perception was existing only because I had something to perceive! :D This realization was like the example of "your brain is in the reality and reality is in the brain" you mentioned in the video, but so much more profound.
What surprised me even more was that I had already discovered this on my own (kinda)! :D Many months ago I had been contemplating (I didn't call it contemplating at the time but any way) about existence and I had wrote down this same conclusion, which goes: "Reality can only be if some one is perceiving it. And perceptions can only be if there is reality to preserve." But I had missed the bigger conclusion! :D The application of me, my perceptions, my fucking Perceptions!! I didn't see at the time the paradox that this statement holds and now that I experienced the paradox yesterday... oh boy.. :D This experience meant that the strange loop on the screen was as real as me! As real as the background of the strange loop on the screen (and of course as unreal). So I realized I have no way to ground myself! I realized that I can't be physical! I can't exist.. and still I exist, like the strange loop on the video. I can still remember myself going: "Oh my god.. this is what Leo has been talking about.. Reality is just a huge illusionary paradox and that IS reality!!":D I'm just a perception paradoxically existing with my perceptions, because it could not be any other way.
And still there was nothing sad about it. This realization was actually calming and innocent in a way. I wasn't even feeling any smarter than anyone else, which I usually feel after watching some kind of video about reality. I just saw the strange loop and its beauty (its funny that its actually sooo beautiful :D). But as you said is another thing to imagine it and another to accomplish it. Thank you Leo. This experience/realization was incredible and I hope I was able to articulate myself even though this is such a tricky thing to explain and English is not my mother-language. Now excuse me and let me go buy some Hofstadters strange loop.
PS: I'm sorry about all the ":D" in the text. I just think it's appropriate because I'm smiling like crazy all the time while writing this text :D
PPS: waiting on Gödel's incompleteness theorem and how to get a witch girlfriend ;D
edit: because I can't grasp or recreate this experience I would love some kind of response. Is this just more conceptualizing? Am I on the right track? It felt very real and realizing it was so profound that I don't know what to believe anymore. I'm obviously not enlighten so is this just another trap? Can I even ask these questions in a hope for guidance?
Yes, of course. That was what we call a "direct consciousness" or a samadhi experience. So you got a little taste of nonduality. Just a little, little taste ;) Keep digging deeper and you'll have a lot more where that came from. You've just scratched the surface. But that first glimpse is an important achievement because now you know what's possible (a bit).
Welcome to true spirituality.
omg so this is what spirituality is all about.. Wow.. I have a lot to learn :D Thank you Leo! You have changed my life direction forever.
Can you make an episode on samadhi experiences? :)
heyyyyy Vsauce, Leo here
i'm going to watch this before my next trip!
"The only way the ego can survive is by lack of self-reflection, because self-reflection leads to the collapse of everything. That is why paradoxes and contradictions are outlawed from logic by fiat. Not because they don't belong there, they are at the very core and center of logic. Without paradox and contradiction, there could be no logic, but they are dismissed and discounted and demonized... because they literally threaten the collapse of all of reality."
I felt/realized (theorized?) this deeply intuitively, and you have put it into words beautifully. This quote made me recall a time I was broaching such abstract notions during a therapy session, when I said something that hit a little too close to home. I remember the feeling in the room shifting intensely, my heart sank unlike it ever had before. The look in my therapist's eyes was akin to terror in some ways. It was as if the universe was looking back at me through his eyes and saying "Shhhhh, I don't want to remember the truth." I immediately back-peddled and spent the rest of the session trying to make both of us forget about what had just been said.
If this didn’t blow your mind you didn’t get it, I’m 18 now I was 13 when I found out the law of attraction was real and then I discovered Neville Goddards teachings. It all fits perfectly together, I AM EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE 🤯
Cheers for being ahead of the curve.
I wonder if Leo ever cries after finishing a video. He pours an immense amount of energy into each topic and what he creates is so profound I can't help but think he realizes that he is helping to change the world. That would certainly bring a tear to my eye. 🥲
I just Loooooooooooooooooooove where your craft is going Leo! I swear your work's gonna be part of the next step in the human evolution LOL.
I was watching a few videos on quantum theory last night; it seems as if science is coming close to discovering that everything is everything and nothing at the same time haha!
Hahah took them long enough!
Yes, Buddhism and Hinduism have taught this for thousands of years. That everything is "empty" or "formless", and that there is only the appearance of things or what is called "luminosity".
The Ancients knew what reality actually is. But overtime, individuals were corrupted by their egoic perception and used this knowledge to change others' perceptions of reality, ultimately changing reality itself. This forced people to go into hiding, use code and spread this information to the few who were initiated into the mystery schools.
Nah dude I have seen that too, they aren't close. Their perspective confused me for few days, they said that everything isn't deterministic. Which is totally wrong. BECAUSE A 50% CHANCES OF SOMETHING TO HAPPEN, IS THE WORST CASE OF HUMAN'S ABILITY TO PREDICT FUTURE ...you understand what I am saying ?
I hope you do. If you have been correlating it with quantum physics. You can surely relate to what I'm saying.
Maybe I'm saying something nonsense ... NVM ..I'm just excited
Honestly, the idea is silly. These thoughts are coming from people who base their understanding of science on what their education has taught them. Past already is present is future.
The data of a supercomputer is the codification of information that already exists.
Anything that can happen has already happened. Time is an illusion in the sense that it is completely relative. Time is not something that forms consciousness. Time is consciousness. You are time, You are space, etc. Our point of perspective is limited to the barriers of time-space linearity. But, if we allow ourselves to experience ego-death, we can see beyond this linearity. Ultimately, everything is nothing. So time itself is empty, formless, manifesting and progressing through form. There is unlimited potential.
When we are operating from the perspective of the mind, of habit, of repetitiveness, we are working like clockwork, not fully conscious; we are predictable. But when we are wholly present, we have the ability to see reality as it is, completely united. When we have beliefs, habits, thoughts, we are operating within the time-space matrix. When we let go completely, we return to the beginning, which is also the end, being beyond time.
"I am the wisest man alive for I know one thing and that is that I know nothing".
When we truly let go, we stop limiting the potential manifestations of the universe. You can only really perceive what you allow yourself to perceive because if there is no "you" to be the perceiver, there is not a perception. Too many people are stuck in their egos, they only see one dimension, they're too scared to consciously know they are a multidimensional being. You wanna see a supercomputer? What do you think you are?
Honestly, a lot of people are looking at AI like it is a god, something above them. We need to stop this before it begins. A product of reality can not be better than reality itself. I mean we already have a church of artificial intelligence, we are looking for what is right in front of us. I'm just gonna say it: some of the dumbest humans right now are people who are believed to be the smartest. When in fact, the intellect by itself is complete asinine, it doesn't hold a matchstick to truth. Wisdom is silent. Reality already is as is.
Thanks so much Leo.
About quantum mechanics and physicists: You're right. Usually there are two reactions to the paradox of measurement in QM: 1) The "shut up and calculate" approach. Despite the lack of determinism, one can still compute probability amplitudes which give us reliable predictions for particle accelerators (since billions of collisions take place in there). So it's deterministic at that level.
2) Argue that somehow QM is an intermediate formalism, but we haven't gotten the right framework yet. This is the approach of G. 't Hooft, one of the great modern QFT experts who proved the renormalizability of Yang-Mills theory, found the first magnetic monopole solution, etc. He posits that QM is just an extremely efficient piece of mathematics that gets the right answer, but with a funky inconsistent interpretation.
I think it's fair to say that no physicist is satisfied with the current paradigm of QM. But they just get on with their lives and "push the symbols" as you say.
"Tell them that there is nothing to understand."
U.G.Krishnamurti
Wow, this is for sure one of THE BEST videos I have seen my entire life! So many deepest concepts put together in such a clear way... Bravo Leo! You've definitely got it all together:)
Hey there Leo,
I just watched this video, and felt this truth deeper than I ever have before. I might even go as far as to say that I've never fully understood it before, only seeing hints of it during meditation and psychedelic trips. In any case, I had a breakthrough experience toward the of the video. I spontaneusly started crying, and after a while the crying turned to a deep laugh. I see it now.
Thank you.
+GregorizZ :)
I cherish your words, they affect me deeply. I appreciate your hard work to convey the points you make. You're my friend. Take care
Fractured but whole
Precisely!
Leo, I wanted to thank you for making and posting videos like this. I find metaphysics and the nature of reality a fascinating topic, and there aren't many people like you who are willing to invest time and energy into investigating what's really going on. I look forward to following you on your journey.
This guy is amazing I must say the topics of getting complicated but fundamental🔛
Around 26:00 to the end, he goes beyond deep into the subject of strange loop lol I love Leo! He makes you think paradoxically
But Leo. . . I was going to sleep. . .
So youre subconscious mind have some juicy food for thought
I don't know how to express my impressions, respect, wow-ness to this guy. It takes so huge effort to create these videos! Almost infinite effort...should be thousands of hours of thinking, creating, editing...God's reflection...So intelligent, clear in explanations and also clean in resolution and sound quality. We watch this for an hour and pass...I don't know how a human can find time in our current life to read so many books, contemplate life, create videos, write books, etc. It should be very interesting to see a day of life of this guy - Leo.
T A D A
David Reynolds xD
David Reynolds than you
That tada had me busting up lmao
Best comment ever.
Now where's that chocolate cake???
Thé true was a mirror in the hands of God.
It fell, and broke into pieces.
Everybody took a piece of it, and they looked at it thought they had the truth.
Thank you for your wonderfull work 🙏
Hi Leo. I m discouraged by the phenomenon of pain. We can talk a lot about some philosophical stuff, but when you face pain, it seems very real, you know. So please can you discride may be in future episodes or here, what is nature of pain? Is it just one of infinite aspects of reality or it is something else, something more complex? Thank you Leo.
"it seems very real"
*Seems* is the key word there.
At high levels of consciousness, you can literally deconstruct pain into nothingness. I know people who can get root canals done without Novocaine, and enjoy the process because they are conscious enough to see that pain is literally nothing.
Maybe you have a low pain threshold?
Actualized.org i want to understand the nature of suffering in all degrees
Who wants to know, and why do you not want pain? Why don't you understand it?
I deal with chronic pain, too. What I've found most helpful is not identifying with it. It is still felt, but it is not "mine." This can effectively remove all psychological suffering from the equation. You still feel the physical sensations, but the fear that my life is ruined, that it will always be here, that I failed to obtain the life I dreamed of, that I can't do the things I want to do, that people don't understand my limitations or judge me, etc. - all that is gone. That means a lot less suffering.
You have taken a dualistic grammar and looped it enough here where to what you are pointing skirmishes with the ineffable. Beautifully presented!
The end of the universe is just the beggining again.
Thanks Leo.
Every topic seems like the last piece of the puzzle. I really can't imagine what can be bigger than this piece
My brain hurts now. Oh forgot. I have no brain.
looool
You are your brain.
You must've not watched Leo's video talking about why brains don't exist
lmao
@@katerinapobrezni2011 So you're saying I'm not my brain
Leo, thank you SO MUCH. I can't even begin to explain how much of an epiphany this is for me. For years, I've had an increasing feeling of general overwhelmed-ness in response to the awareness that anything seems to exist at all, or that at the least my awareness seems to exist at all. This feeling has always left me incoherent and speechless beyond simple remarks that "everything is so strange". This video was like the final clue to realize how to put the pieces of the puzzle together.
As soon as you showed the graphic at 21:10, it clicked for me that the waterfall is life, existence, everything. This (consciousness, universe, being, everything) IS the perpetual motion machine, and know one understands why it works. But it just does.
Thank you
That's right! Existence is the one true perpetual motion machine, minus the machinery.
Actualized.org could there not be an infinity of infinite universes all perpetual motion existences being themselves all of existence?
Yes, of course. That's what Absolute Infinity means. It's the collection of infinity infinities.
Hey Leo, how do you handle a social life with all that knowledge and understanding?
No socializing. Busy making infinite videos. People suck anyway.
This is so beautiful that I want to cry. Leo for pres
This is dope ! And I am high
we couldnt have found this channel without being high my man
dotaboy888 yeah brother, I am really enjoying this trip with these strange loops things,
Haven't I just seen you on RSDMax's RUclips comment section? 😆
Leo, you’ve changed my life and probably many others as well. Every insight I have, you happen to release a video that confirms and clarifies it for me. And if you release a video talking about something completely foreign to me, I try to understand and contemplate it, which leads to even more insights! I absolutely love where this channel is going and I’m very excited to follow you on this journey :)
36:55-37:07 Blew my mind
Amazing. This is what I have been contemplating for many years... Thanks, your video cracked the ice..... It's now only a question of leaving that tightly held branch and fly out to the infinite. My brother is an experimental physicist (and a Nobel Prize nominee too..) and I always found him hammering on verifiable proofs. I could smell what he is missing in his approach, but was not able to figure out what it was. This presentation explains it all. Again, thanks a lot. I owe you one.... Just FYI, a mystical book written by an 12th century Indian saint, Dnyaneshwar, titled Amrutanubhav (literally meaning 'Experiencing Divine Nectar') explains the whole phenomenon on the same lines, but your presentation a step-by-step approach more convenient to resonate with. It's not because the Saint said anything different, but the examples given in that book were referencing to phenomenons understandable by people in 12th century, whereas your examples with reference to Quantum Mechanics and Space-time quantum could be easily related. Well, that does not mean I have reached the point singularity. Still, I need to establish / practice the way to merge the Strange Loop with the background and then also merge your 'self'. The Vedas / Saint call this state as merging 'The observed object', 'The process of observation' and the 'Observer itself'.
See my video on Godel's Incompleteness Theorem for an even deeper explanation about the limits of proof.
BUT, LEEEEEEEO
Hahahah gold!
unoriginal 0/10
classics
Never gets old. Someone needs to record saying it in the most whiniest voice ever conceived!
+shitmandood lol
Hello my friend… not sure if you’ll see this or not, but I’m here to remind you of what you’ve been trying to tell us all these years - that your structure stands upon pillars of nothingness, and that is beautiful in and of itself. Keep doing what you’re doing king.
Here my weekly dose of mindfuck. My mind became Leo's little bitch.
As unbelievable and complex as this sounds, I actually understand it. Trying to explain, well that’s another challenge altogether. What a great video. Thanks,
ALL of my darkest experiences on LSD and Mushrooms revolve around this specific topic
Define "darkest".
I mean realizing that there is NO ultimate solution to the problems of life because of the fact that the relationship between positive and negative is precisely symmetrical no matter what. Understanding on a very deep level that we(organisms) are all just different individual expressions of the SAME entity running around in circles thinking that it can actually escape from it's own equilibrium. Having the gut wrenching realization that the experience of you relaxing on a beautiful day while enjoying a nice cup of coffee is a CONTINUOUS process with someone being strapped to a chair while slowly being skinned alive, or how the experience of you playing with your kids in the backyard is a CONTINUOUS process with a poor kidnapped child being fucked in the ass by a sexual predator. Coming to the conclusion that there is NO escape from suffering because "death" is an illusion, EVERYTHING is connected and "all roads lead to the slaughter house."
In other words according to this idea, your true identity is the entire universe, everybody and EVERY living thing is just a different version of you in a different situation. You can think of each individual conscious entity as a point on a single Gordian knot of experience where all events depend on each other. And so it's a sad, bleak and lonely situation where the universe(you) is trapped in a never ending cycle of fucking itself, eating itself, having relationships with itself, and eternally going to war with itself.
Funny, those are my best experiences on LSD and mushrooms ;)
The darkest are when you realize the boundary between sanity and insanity doesn't exist!
It's actually not dark or bleak though. That's only one perspective on the situation. Yes, suffering is inescapable, but since that is the case, so is ecstasy, since both suffering an ecstacy are in that same yin-yang relationship with one another. You can think of it as infinite torture, or infinite bliss. It's really both, and neither.
@@ActualizedOrg YES. Then WOO,lol
All the pieces are where they belong finally. If any thinking person doesn't see this, just give them time. When you know you know and when you don't you don't.
I lost my mind in the previous episode to understand this...
Stunning Leo, I've grown up with your work and love exactly where it's gone and where you're tasking it. You better keep it up:)
Leos next video: how to make a time machine tutorials
lmao
Leo I really, REALLY, appreciate what you're doing! I love the metaphysical stuff, I'd love to see more of that and I'm excited to hear your thoughts on society and government etc. Keep it up!!!
Leo, did you try to write Hofstadter a mail? Wouldn't he be open for that after working in the field for so long?
I have not tried. I've lost hope in converting materialists. They will have to grasp it on their own, if at all. The materialist paradigm is usually extremely good at ignoring/dismissing/demonizing any attempts made at undermining it. Just like any other religion. And this tends to be especially true of academic-types, whose entire careers are built around advancing certain paradigms over others.
I would that hope Hofstadter is right-brained enough to re-evaluate his position. But I will not be holding my breath.
Actualized.org Leo please at least try sending him this video! I would litteraly cry and grief for days if that guy dies before grasping his own descovery..
You guys are free to send it to him.
Sending it tonight~ better trying than not.
If he dies before realizing it, well, i believe that after death you kinda return the source of formlessnes
IMO, you and Douglas, both missed my favorite (and very satisfying demonstration of the theory) saltwater taffy on a pulling machine. My experience is that consciousness, beingness, the 'I', or the stuff of existence not only makes a loop but pulls, contracts and mixes, too. It's not just the movement of existence in a strange loop. The appearance is always folding, stretching, contracting, mixing, AND looping. The appearance may appear to have made a return to some point on the loop, but in actuality, the appearance that appears to return is always fresh and new. Hope that makes sense to you.
Sunday came early :)
I hope one day you will be heard by the whole world
To trip after watching this episode would be a strange loop of a trip...
I am only 16 min into this video and I had to pause to say that i know reality is a strange loop, because i have literally fallen into this thing. It's a trip.
Is my dog eating his own poop a strange loop?
Buk Choi no its a strange dog
MeditationMan haha lol. Sigh!
Hey Leo, my Mom was overhearing me watch this when she heard you talking about atoms not existing & it's just wave functions. She asked, "What about air?" She made a good point. It seems to have a purpose there, even if we can't see it. Although I did point out fog, clouds, mist, & steam...
Air? What about the floor under your feet?!!
Go ask the quantum physicists why you don't fall through the floor if all atoms are just wave functions and virtual particles.
I sometimes think that Leo just try to triggering derealization, and than control people
Sorry for my bad English
i don't know.. How about schizophrenia? It does't exist?
like cult leaders do
Cepara you didn't understand what he said. Existence and nonexistence is a duality. Illusion.
Серега Водник I catch your drift. I too felt intuitively something cultish here. And then I read through the comments and see all the fanboy praises.
Dan Flynn
Its because there are people who watch Leo's videos for mental masturbation and don't actually apply it to their life.
If you're blindly following what somebody says, Guru or not, you are doing it all wrong.
Leo, this is so amazing! I still remember when I started watching your videos since November of 2015 for dating advice. This journey has been such a mind fuck and will continue to be one for the rest of my life. I love it! I know plenty of rationalists that suffer from the same problem and don't even believe in strange loops. Anytime I attempt to tell them to open themselves out of the materialist paradigm.... they assume that there is no alternative. It's a real shame because after I watch these videos.... my meditation sessions are so much better when I open myself up. I look forward to more of your content.
You early Leo. 😊🙏🏽
Not sure if the comments are being cleaned or not, but this channel's comment section is one of the nicest I have ever seen
Leo’s butt. But Leo.
I find it beautiful that Hofstadter could bring such amazing insight yet miss a piece himself.
Yes, the mind's labyrinth runs deep. Easy to get lost for anyone.
Self Enquiry Strange Loop I encountered.
Who is the who, asking who is the who asking who is the who asking who?
I could not find an answer.
The Answer I realize now is right here
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The arrow is the same as what it is pointing to.
YES!
I've had a heavy week with lots of self-inquiry and that's my realization too.
Frustrating as fuck
Yup, indeed
So liberating! Life = death = all = us = fear = peace = water = earth ... Thank you so very much for this wonderful = awful (there is no labeling right) topic Leo. Can't wait for the next steps. Thumbs up!
Please read up on how the right brain/intuitive, left brain/logical distinction is a cultural fiction.
Not from what he said a couple of times in this video.
Its a easy to understand concept to clarify at which angle you should try to approach the harder to understand concepts he is talking about. If its true or not doesnt matter because it doesnt change the purpose and that it was effective at its purpose.
Besides everything is a fiction. Your mind is the biggest fiction creator there is.
Right, I get that. I personally found it jarring to hear references to outdated concepts as a part of what we're told is cutting-edge information.
Thank you for being so strong, Leo. It is incredible what you do. A growing ball of truth that devours ignorance and melt rock into clean metal. Staying on the path proves to be so immensely difficult for me, and insights seems to be the only thing I can rely on. It's like a web of truth that doesn't go away. Like.. memory.
HOW ALL IS ONE?
how is my paper me? those two things can become 1 in the future, but NOW these are two different things...
you don't explain HOW they are the same or WHY...
the why question is hard, don't worry about it... but can you explain the how?
I understand that things can be made out of the same thing, but they can be still separated...
I think that the sentence "all is one" only means that everything is made out of the same thing... am I right?
If the paper isn't you, how are you able to see it?
Hello?? Everything you see is you! More accurately, you are not seeing it. You are being as it.
ok so the paper is me because I can see it in my head? because everything I see "plays" inside my head...
we can take the example of information. "everything is information". there are 3 sticks, there is 1 kg of food, my shirt is blue etc. So I am information. I am like a type of a very complicated paper... I am BEING information... HOWEVER, we are still separated.............................................................................
Do I understand?
If I only had
Im back here re watching this because Leo recommended it along with 6 others at the end of his most recent episode "What It Means To Go Meta". Based on the current total views, there are so few of us. I always knew I was a rare breed. So rare, I just might be....the only One...
For a thing to exist is the same thing as to not to exist.....man Leo i Just dont get this
It's exactly like last night's dream. Does it really exist? No! Ditto for all of reality.
The only difference between a dream and reality is that you think reality is "real", which is just a thought within a dream.
paradoxical eh?
Actualized.org Actualized.org Nice metaphor, but it did not explain the claim, just restated it without adding any explanation for what you mean. And it's not any clearer in the video. Set it up syllogistically and transparently so we can see your reasoning (any reasoning, of course, being always trumped by a strategic retreat to the authority of your miraculously epistemologically superior subjective experience in nondual states of awareness).
Dan Flynn i understand what he’s saying 🤷♀️
This reminds me of how we humans see things. (understand visually) We see the details because of the whole and we see the whole because of the details and this is done simultaneous.
Is meditation only key to accomplish this?
You can do astral projection, self inquiry, contemplation and other things too. Meditation isn't the only way to grasp what Leo is saying.
Thank you so much Leo for blowing my mind and opening my heart 💚 I love what you do and I'm so grateful for you and your love 🙏💛🌱🌍👌✨
I don't understand this episode
Cinderella Man that’s because you’re stupid
Maybe
Don't be mean
Cinderella Man you need to do the work yourself...I admit that there are certain parts that I do not understand...you need to be reading and contemplating and meditating so that you can understand the importance of Leo ‘s teachings
Strange loops occur whenever you feel a sense of "I" or self throughout your day...normally we pay attention to our external or internal world and are fully absorbed with these objects of experience then all of a sudden when our stream of consciousness folds back onto itself it forms a strange loop and we become the subject of our own experience...we feel embodied as an ego. Soon after we drift off into thoughts or sensations again running the loop once more.