What a case study from F.R.M. OMG!!! CHRISTMAS CAME EARLY Gotta love the DIY guys espically when they dont want to pay for there mess ups And folks thats why we charge by the hour on electrical repairs no flat rate apply,s on those circus jobs
Glad to see that you can fix cars 😜 Good video, always more challenging when someone has been messing! So the route cause would have been the window switch that blew the main (missing) fuse in the first place? (at least, as far as we know)
Really nice video and enjoyed the diagnostic case study. It's jobs like this one that shows why we make the big bucks in the shop! Like to see more of them. Also since it sounds like you are the shop foreman/manager have you ever thought of doing a video about "divorcing" a problem customer? Just thought you might have a few thoughts on the subject and I have a problem customer that I might be needing to "divorce"
This is exactly how om starting my 2004 grand marquis i believe my ignition switch actuator rod has broken . Would of be better off just replacing the rod or just the whole steering column?
They was helpful I am having the same problem with my 2004 grand marquis and I have replaced everything has a new battery, new stater, new starter Relay and it boils down to have a bad ignition switch this video was helpful so that’s the new route to put a new ignition switch on it and hopefully that’s exactly what it is and was
Hi, what about us folk who have a Wal-Mart budget and want to weld automotive exhaust or body panels, will the Walmart off the shelf stick welder do the job ?
Do a vid on what type of cigars and whisky you like. what type do you perfer size, wrapper type, brand, box or round. also do you hang out at a local cigar lounge?
Oh the ones you have to figure out after someone else monkeyed around it first... Good find. Funny you posted this video because I JUST had 2017 RDX yesterday from a body shop that had no communication after they did some right frame rail repair and an engine room harness. Long story short, the right front window connector and the F-CAN connector on the cabin harness are interchangeable where the cabin and engine room harnesses connect. Kinda need F-CAN connectivity at the PCM.... oops haha. I would have loved to see the look on the body guys face when he was told.
I stated this befor and I will state it again. some customers should not try to fix there own cars because sometimes they just make it worse and make more work for the pros..
Nice one. What is your opinion on putting a car on a assymetric lift in reverse. Just wondering cause i have a rotary spoa9 in my home shop and i havnt done this but i was just kinda speculating. It seem as long as the weight is distributed correctly it should be fine right? Figured uv been using lift your whole life so ud be the one to ask. Thanks frm
I also worked for challenger lifts;) as long as weight distribution is right you shouldn't have issues, now getting the correct distribution is a little hard.
my son has a 2002 grand marquis, it had a drain on the battery. charged it up, started it and he ditched the car in snow storm. had car towed to shop. car would not start, thought it was frozen. had shop put in inside for the night. went to shop the next day to get the thawed out car, had to use jump pack. fuel pump working-check. brake cable had been stretched out either while putting in the ditch or getting towed out. turned car over again after testing fuel pump, and smoke comes out from inside the driver side front wheel well. any ideas what is in there???
wow got some testing to do tomrrow i lit just had my car on 15 min ago went back to turn it on and dash lights up battery good fuse good just no crank NEED HELP
my crown victoria 2002 crank no start new battery new starter check ignition fuse starting relay fuel pump relay fuel pump prime is working what causing this weird crank no start
Whats that shop labor again for when the customer last worked on it or someone else touched it last??? 199.99 per hr? That includes double time on the techs flat rate pay lol.
need help have a 1998 gran marquis replace fuel pump still no start but crank install new battery no start but I notice the gas is real brown red looking car set for 4 years since 2015 I spray some starting fluid it started for 1 second started puffing help please thank you
I can make this A LOT more difficult. (Also, that looks like an 03-04 GM, based on the steering wheel buttons. 05 and up had fewer). So, same problem, no crank, has ignition power, ACC, etc, but no crank. HOWEVER, all the fuses are fine, the Jcase is fine, the relay is fine. All voltages check out at the solenoid, yet no crank. Has a brand new Ford starter (old one was good but so corroded the terminals broke off, and overall nasty with rust). New Ford neutral safety switch (which I think was more of a parts cannon diagnosos, my bad, but still kept the old OK one. It was rusted and fused to the input selection shaft, which needed cleaning anyways. Car sat for over 7 years). Still no clue. Yes, I know I should have some kind of diag, but dont (Maybe you can recomment what I would need, since Im looking at a Snapon Apollo D9, since it can do some coding, adding the VIN to the PCM/TCM unless I'm wrong and I need a full blown setup with a Bosch Jbox. Im not looking forward to that spending, nor going into debt but Im not seeing a solution. Ive had to shift to modern cars lately because not many people bring me their classics anymore, as most of my clients passed away, traded in for C8 Vettes, or moved to Florida...Im kind of using this car as me learning ECU problems, since it was my car, that got totalled, has a lot of sentimental value, as well as being a very rare 1 of 1 CV Sport model, the only 1of1 known to have been made during the whole Panther Platform lineup) Anyways, any help would be great. Both on the no crank issue, as well as what diag setup I should get (I wish I could say money is no issue but...)
@Donald Prairie I did, but the shop manual as well as Chilton and Hayes has some very strange wording regarding the ground side. I was getting 12v, but since the neutral switch is on the ground side, it made it seem as if the computer was doing A LOT more than I would normally have assume. I can chalk it up to reaching that frustation point. Since I wrote the comment, I managed to get a Zeus, and that showed no codes at all... That along with the voltage drop while turning the ingition (so igntion switch works) confirmed that despite it being a new part, it was bad. I know the saying, just because its new, doesnt mean it works...but this is a tough repair. This was the car I wrecked in, and broke my neck in. I should have checked that first thing (I did check the starter itself by hotwiring it with jumpers, but I skipped checking the solenoid)
Got one for ya. 2000 mercury grand marquis. Changed out the starter and the battery. Get one click then everything goes dead. Wont light up dash, the gage says battery is dead. Put the charger on brand new battery and it says %50, sometimes nothing at all. Tried to jump it, one click and everything dies again. Checked the wires on the starter and battery, they're all tight. I give up.......
Cranked and cranked until the battery died. Engine ground, battery ground and terminals all got extremely hot. Re charged the battery (new) replaced engine ground, battery terminal and now acting like bad ground again........😫
My car was running perfectly fine till I had someone replace my a/c compressor now my car want crank. I got a new battery new starter check fuse . I need help
Great video thanks brother. I sure am glad it's you and not me. Well at least you know what to look for. They probably went to an auto parts store and was told the switch was bad. Sounds like a great challenge for you and you got it. Keep up the great work see you in the next video thanks again brother
Scott Pearson TOOLS &MORE Yep those "SO CALLED" Auto parts stores are HORRIBLE now days no experience what so ever.And those free diagnostic checks for check engine lights are a joke they should not even offer those services.
I thought this was pretty cool. Like most this is not my strength. My mentor was old school and didn’t care for electrical diagnostics at all. So never learned any tricks in this area. With the way today’s cars are I’d take to any videos that help with learning. Nice change up 👍
Great video Mike more of the DIY trying to fix it them self's or getting advice from a so called want-to-be autoparts store with absolutely no experience but anyway great video until next time PEACE.
The videos would be great if you video tape the work on the vehicle as you know. I understand the shop owners don't allow you to video the session , but I can't watch a video that does not show the work , and just talk about it. It actually is not worth the time , sorry. Thanks.
Make more videos so youtube pays ya more and while ur at it make one about 2010 crown vic p7b ignition ruined by thief with screwdriver how to repair and what parts syep by step ! I know keep on wishing , i had to try
Sounds very familiar, most of the times if you have multiple problems they are created by the last guy working on it!
Almost always!
you got that right
Finally some repair or diagnostic videos 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
What a case study from F.R.M.
OMG!!!
CHRISTMAS CAME EARLY
Gotta love the DIY guys espically when they dont want to pay for there mess ups
And folks thats why we charge by the hour on electrical repairs
no flat rate apply,s on those circus jobs
Love your content man! It's nice to see realistic work and attitude going on in a day to day shop!
Glad to see that you can fix cars 😜
Good video, always more challenging when someone has been messing!
So the route cause would have been the window switch that blew the main (missing) fuse in the first place? (at least, as far as we know)
I like this video, your diagnostic , I hope you keep going whit this videos like this diagnostics and repair 👍
Really nice video and enjoyed the diagnostic case study. It's jobs like this one that shows why we make the big bucks in the shop! Like to see more of them. Also since it sounds like you are the shop foreman/manager have you ever thought of doing a video about "divorcing" a problem customer? Just thought you might have a few thoughts on the subject and I have a problem customer that I might be needing to "divorce"
Gotta love fixing and trying to find out what the customer or other people did before you start actual diag👍
Always love those customer built in problems I would like to more vids like this great job FRM 👍
Saw those a lot at Ford. People will replace the ignition but not program PATS.
It's like I was there with you... need more like this! =)
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This is exactly how om starting my 2004 grand marquis i believe my ignition switch actuator rod has broken . Would of be better off just replacing the rod or just the whole steering column?
They was helpful I am having the same problem with my 2004 grand marquis and I have replaced everything has a new battery, new stater, new starter Relay and it boils down to have a bad ignition switch this video was helpful so that’s the new route to put a new ignition switch on it and hopefully that’s exactly what it is and was
I told a hack customer once that someone should lock his tool box and throw away the key. He wasn't amused but i felt better.
Hi, what about us folk who have a Wal-Mart budget and want to weld automotive exhaust or body panels, will the Walmart off the shelf stick welder do the job ?
Do a vid on what type of cigars and whisky you like. what type do you perfer size, wrapper type, brand, box or round. also do you hang out at a local cigar lounge?
Hes got a hello kitty steering wheel cover lol
Or the SAE SMEWXL8 set. Think I’m going to buy these but wish they were a flex end option as well
Oh the ones you have to figure out after someone else monkeyed around it first... Good find. Funny you posted this video because I JUST had 2017 RDX yesterday from a body shop that had no communication after they did some right frame rail repair and an engine room harness. Long story short, the right front window connector and the F-CAN connector on the cabin harness are interchangeable where the cabin and engine room harnesses connect. Kinda need F-CAN connectivity at the PCM.... oops haha. I would have loved to see the look on the body guys face when he was told.
As Mr. O would say. Ahhh the sweet smell of frustration!
Had an Interstate battery last 8 years in a Chevy s10. Got about 2 out of an Autozone recently.
Awesome great help. I owe you a beer.
I stated this befor and I will state it again. some customers should not try to fix there own cars because sometimes they just make it worse and make more work for the pros..
Now I get to work on mine doing the exact same thing except the switches to the doors for the windows are still in
Very interesting. Good job on the fix
Good job ace !
Nice one. What is your opinion on putting a car on a assymetric lift in reverse. Just wondering cause i have a rotary spoa9 in my home shop and i havnt done this but i was just kinda speculating. It seem as long as the weight is distributed correctly it should be fine right? Figured uv been using lift your whole life so ud be the one to ask. Thanks frm
I also worked for challenger lifts;) as long as weight distribution is right you shouldn't have issues, now getting the correct distribution is a little hard.
Need more of those type of videos!!greaf diagnostic
my son has a 2002 grand marquis, it had a drain on the battery. charged it up, started it and he ditched the car in snow storm. had car towed to shop. car would not start, thought it was frozen. had shop put in inside for the night. went to shop the next day to get the thawed out car, had to use jump pack. fuel pump working-check. brake cable had been stretched out either while putting in the ditch or getting towed out.
turned car over again after testing fuel pump, and smoke comes out from inside the driver side front wheel well. any ideas what is in there???
How much time did you spend the vehicle and how much DIAG time did you get???
Diag on the no start took less than 45 minutes, charged 2 hours diag, and charged to put the original ignition switch in
Did you ever find out the original concerns before the other shop got to it ?
Was it originally just in for the window issue ?
What was punched for time on this job ??? How long did it take you actual time👍🏻.
wow got some testing to do tomrrow i lit just had my car on 15 min ago went back to turn it on and dash lights up battery good fuse good just no crank
NEED HELP
Cool first Diag video 😎
Good detective skills.
my crown victoria 2002 crank no start new battery new starter check ignition fuse starting relay fuel pump relay fuel pump prime is working what causing this weird crank no start
Nice Job 😀🤙🏼 Flat Rate Master I Hope You Do More Diagnostic Videos in The Future 😊
I have the same issue it keeps blowing fuse 112 the one that was missing what do you think it could be
It is vary suprising what some people will do to their or someone's else vehicles
"another quick one here. we have a 2015 chevy tahoe with a shorted can wire behind the dash, really easy to fix, took probably 13 seconds"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Whats that shop labor again for when the customer last worked on it or someone else touched it last??? 199.99 per hr? That includes double time on the techs flat rate pay lol.
BWD hahahaha great video, bring more video's like this to the table 😉.
Having the same problem on my 2003 Ford Crown Victoria no crank no start good battery and good starter
same here. you ever figure it out. would appreciate any help
@@blackaspitch631 did you ever figure it out having the same problem
@@ratpackgaming5230 my cars in the shop now. it's a security module and somthing else. ignition switch or something. 1k to fix
mike the video quality is very good . what type of camera do you use?
Sony 4k Camcorder
and all the equipment I use I talk about in this video :)
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You should do more diagnostic videos. Interesting
need help have a 1998 gran marquis replace fuel pump still no start but crank install new battery no start but I notice the gas is real brown red looking car set for 4 years since 2015 I spray some starting fluid it started for 1 second started puffing help please thank you
Starr by draining out that old gas. And refilling with fresh gas
I can make this A LOT more difficult. (Also, that looks like an 03-04 GM, based on the steering wheel buttons. 05 and up had fewer).
So, same problem, no crank, has ignition power, ACC, etc, but no crank. HOWEVER, all the fuses are fine, the Jcase is fine, the relay is fine. All voltages check out at the solenoid, yet no crank. Has a brand new Ford starter (old one was good but so corroded the terminals broke off, and overall nasty with rust). New Ford neutral safety switch (which I think was more of a parts cannon diagnosos, my bad, but still kept the old OK one. It was rusted and fused to the input selection shaft, which needed cleaning anyways. Car sat for over 7 years).
Still no clue. Yes, I know I should have some kind of diag, but dont (Maybe you can recomment what I would need, since Im looking at a Snapon Apollo D9, since it can do some coding, adding the VIN to the PCM/TCM unless I'm wrong and I need a full blown setup with a Bosch Jbox. Im not looking forward to that spending, nor going into debt but Im not seeing a solution. Ive had to shift to modern cars lately because not many people bring me their classics anymore, as most of my clients passed away, traded in for C8 Vettes, or moved to Florida...Im kind of using this car as me learning ECU problems, since it was my car, that got totalled, has a lot of sentimental value, as well as being a very rare 1 of 1 CV Sport model, the only 1of1 known to have been made during the whole Panther Platform lineup)
Anyways, any help would be great. Both on the no crank issue, as well as what diag setup I should get (I wish I could say money is no issue but...)
@Donald Prairie I did, but the shop manual as well as Chilton and Hayes has some very strange wording regarding the ground side. I was getting 12v, but since the neutral switch is on the ground side, it made it seem as if the computer was doing A LOT more than I would normally have assume. I can chalk it up to reaching that frustation point. Since I wrote the comment, I managed to get a Zeus, and that showed no codes at all...
That along with the voltage drop while turning the ingition (so igntion switch works) confirmed that despite it being a new part, it was bad.
I know the saying, just because its new, doesnt mean it works...but this is a tough repair. This was the car I wrecked in, and broke my neck in. I should have checked that first thing (I did check the starter itself by hotwiring it with jumpers, but I skipped checking the solenoid)
Got one for ya. 2000 mercury grand marquis. Changed out the starter and the battery. Get one click then everything goes dead. Wont light up dash, the gage says battery is dead. Put the charger on brand new battery and it says %50, sometimes nothing at all. Tried to jump it, one click and everything dies again. Checked the wires on the starter and battery, they're all tight. I give up.......
Check your engine grounds
Thx. Will check, another mechanic friend says the same thing. Hopefully that's what's causing it. 👍
Nailed it! Thx
Cranked and cranked until the battery died. Engine ground, battery ground and terminals all got extremely hot. Re charged the battery (new) replaced engine ground, battery terminal and now acting like bad ground again........😫
I replaced a fuel pump it ran good then cut off and now it has a no crank no start
Try out the Matco SMEWXLM12 wrench sets.
glad you like stuff like that not me...but I get them
My car was running perfectly fine till I had someone replace my a/c compressor now my car want crank. I got a new battery new starter check fuse . I need help
Take the belt off, and make sure then engine or compressor isn't locked up
It’s not because i could crank it wired jumped to the battery
Great post and job sir
Great video thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing this one FRM
Are you in Houston?
Do more case studies please!
Mike! .. it's summertime, and the sun don't go down until 9pm .. wtf are you doing at the Shop???
more vids like this please!
I've got one just like it help
Killer video 👍🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🔧🔧🔧🔧🔧🔧🙏🏻
Wish you was in detroit my car doing the samething
Good job
I have same problem help me please
Hey man, I was wondering if you have a baseball batt at home w/ barbed wire wrapped around it? Or is that your brother? LOL! Nice video, BTW!
Good work
BWD.... the parts canon deserves better ammo then that!!
Awesome video! I love the Hello Kitty steering cover.
Great video thanks brother. I sure am glad it's you and not me. Well at least you know what to look for. They probably went to an auto parts store and was told the switch was bad. Sounds like a great challenge for you and you got it. Keep up the great work see you in the next video thanks again brother
Scott Pearson TOOLS &MORE Yep those "SO CALLED" Auto parts stores are HORRIBLE now days no experience what so ever.And those free diagnostic checks for check engine lights are a joke they should not even offer those services.
I thought this was pretty cool. Like most this is not my strength. My mentor was old school and didn’t care for electrical diagnostics at all. So never learned any tricks in this area. With the way today’s cars are I’d take to any videos that help with learning. Nice change up 👍
Great video Mike more of the DIY trying to fix it them self's or getting advice from a so called want-to-be autoparts store with absolutely no experience but anyway great video until next time PEACE.
It's tampering and should aquire a tampering fee
I bet the owner him/herself is a case study.
Aww baby Erick o
working late?
Can't film in the shop until the sun goes down and traffic dies down normally start filming about 9 pm
How ya been frm?
Been good, you?
@@flatratemaster I been good just working a lot can't complain
Lol...I had a ford Ranger with a partially blown fuel pump fuse
1994
Broke When Delivered 😂
It's customers like that who provide my livelihood! I love em!
Thumbs up !!
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Grand Marguis & Crown Vics are the standard Ghetto Hooptie in the Detroit area. That car would fit right in.
"case study"??
I just did that
👍, THANKS 🚹
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The videos would be great if you video tape the work on the vehicle as you know. I understand the shop owners don't allow you to video the session , but I can't watch a video that does not show the work , and just talk about it. It actually is not worth the time , sorry. Thanks.
I bet that wasent cheap
Another example of someone who shouldn't be playing mechanic...
Make more videos so youtube pays ya more and while ur at it make one about 2010 crown vic p7b ignition ruined by thief with screwdriver how to repair and what parts syep by step ! I know keep on wishing , i had to try
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