This is still my hands down favorite in the series. Being stuck in the Asylum with all the insane people still just gives me the feels. The intro is still my favorite moment in the series. Walking Joker through the entrance while knowing something is off and then seeing Croc walk by being insanely intimidating. The riddles are so good tying in characters from the Batman franchise. The PA system is still my favorite thing about the series. Hearing that very defining ring with Joker chiming in to taunt me is just so damn good. This game for it's time was so damn revolutionary that people still talk about it even today and it paved the way for all the other game. The map layout is hands down the best in the series and was so meticulously well done that you felt every area you visited meant something. This game is also, the most dark and scary one that it feels like a semi horror game. God I love this game.
same. And this also makes me hope that in the future we can get another sort of claustrophobic and horror skewed game like this. I love the entire series, but I think that angling Batman into a claustrophobic confined environment where he was stuck with his enemies, many of whom were terrifying like you pointed out, really benefited the games overall atmosphere.
@@DegenerateJay I agree, I would love for them to go the Asylum style route again. After Asylum they strayed so far away from what made it so good imo. It started just being this open world of chaos where you never truly felt in danger as you did in Asylum. Don't get me wrong I love all of the games in the series, yes, even Origins and Knight. I just still prefer this closed off feeling where I had to truly master my abilities as the batman. The other ones felt so much more forgiving and never gave that feeling of being Batman struggling outside of those epic moments with the joker battling inside your brain in Knight(definitely the highlight of that game imo). I truly hope Legacy can capture that feeling again because I missed it so much playing the other 3. Thanks for responding and genuinely caring about the series enough to take time out and speak with others on here. Believe me when I say that responding to your viewers who take time to respond to your videos is a big deal so thanks for that.
@nabil chowdhury Actually in several comics and even animated runs batman does dodge all over against them while getting in free hits because he cant straight up fight them head to head power wise without some type of suit or piece of equipment. Not saying origins fights werent awesome but comics depict batman fighting more like asylum more often. Also, everything is opinion and nothing is fact. I just prefer this game because of all the things mentioned above. If this wasn't directed at me then disregard.
@@CreekGamingMontages there have been a couple of performances as good as Sorkin's, but mainly by avoiding trying to sound exactly like hers. (The Telltale series & ArkOrigins were both very toned down for different reasons, and benefited greatly.)
I would say... 1] Titanlike boss fights (Joker's included). 2] Some of the character concepts you could unlock being a bit defunct later in the series. 3] Inconsistent dropped combos in combat, yeah I'm with you there. 4] Gordon's character model. 5] Bane's character. And what it did more right than the others... 1] Sense of verticality, despite being in such a smaller game area. 2] Question marks unveiled in detective vision, from only a particular angle. 3] The glitch sequence (although I'm not asking for another one - once is enough). 4] Presentation graphics like the angular boxes and bats flying to reveal area names and such. 5] The batmobile. It's a car, not a tank.
@@Darthox200 damn I forgot about the lunatics. Interrupting their attacks was quite satisfying. As for your suggestion... if they'd had time, I wouldn't have minded a tiny bit of driving but in general I liked that they kept it as a background prop (I posted two lists and I listed it in the good half).
for the suits thing i'd say it was probably influenced by the fact that at the time of making asylum at rocksteady they were only 40 people in fact one of them had only one role and it was animating batman's cape and spent two years on doing it...so i think it was more of a problem of men power
Yeah and like Degenerate Jay pointed out that plan made no sense at all. Usually Joker in City, Origins, and even Knight they all had a plan where as his endgame in Asylum he had no plan. In the beginning of the game, it seems like Joker's plan was to take over Arkham Asylum and release all the inmates to cause havoc and destruction across Gotham.
I actually liked the Bane fight (minus minions) and Poison Ivy, because yeah it's basic just fire batarangs but you've got to dodge the spore, vines and fight a few guys while doing it, good challenge. Overall I don't think there's a boss I dislike minus the bland titans for being bland, they're all pretty fun
5 things it did wrong 1.it was too scary for my age. 2. It was too scary for my age 3.it was too scary for my age 4.it was too scary for my age 5.it was too scary for my age
One of the things that it got wrong was that the origins of the characters are from the comics and in later games,their origins don't make sense,for example at that point,Bruce didn't know that Hush was Thomas Elliot and he found out in Arkham City. Also,even though Quincy Sharp's bio said that he has schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder,he doesn't show signs of it in any of the games
@Gustavo Montoya yes but I meant it during the games except the spirit of Arkham.If Batman found out that Quincy killed all those patients,why couldn't he report him to the police? He has the evidence to prove it
Here are my biggest issues with the game, granted some could be considered really nitpicky 1. The nonexistent lip syncing, just look at any character's mouths when they're talking, it's worse than a typical anime dub when it comes to their lip movements matching the dialogue 2. The thugs all look way too similar. Granted every game in the series has this issue to a certain extent, but in this it feels like they just took the same 3 models, gave them two different skin tones and *maybe* add clown makeup from time to time 3. Lack of alternate skins. This is a cardinal sin for any superhero game imo, they could've added so many iconic suits but all we got was an armored version of the Asylum batsuit, which we couldn't even use outside of challenge maps
It was the first in the series and was pretty much a new engine in use and there are probably rights issues with getting certain costumes that would make it harder at the time. Rocksteady I would say was relatively new at the time
@@burnwitch1293 I think they had other games under their belt at the time. But nothing like Arkham. However skins and modeling is pretty basic for game design. I think it comes down to time or money why we didn't get more.
@Chandler Burse Yeah don't get me wrong, I completely understand why these issues are present, hence why they're nitpicks and not the worst thing ever committed
In defense of The Joker in asylum He did have a backup plan to break the bat psychologically. His original backup plan was to make Batman fight Titan Gordon Considering Joker have 2 Titan serums, he probably was planning to make Batman choose between saving himself or Gordon.
Joker's plan actually seemed to mutate Gordon. The only reason Batman was almost mutated was because he took the shot for Gordon. Joker then wanted to even the odds and fight a mutated Batman while being mutated himself, but then Bats took the antidote.
I did like the criminally insane fight where you fight until you run out of health as pose to Arkham City where you had a timer. But in City it was cool you could block two enemies, which was improvement from this one.
i’ve completed all of the games about 5 times and i never got tired of them despite noticing some of the mistakes before you pointed them out in your videos. I love that you talk about these stuff and i enjoy watching your videos a lot
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t joker’s original plan to make an army of titan monsters. Then when Batman blew up the titan reserve at the gardens, joker used the titan on Ivy. Then when batman stopped that crisis, joker used tried to use it on Batman, but ended up using it on himself. Using titan on himself was way down the list of backup plans.
I actually punched a thug so hard, it glitched his head into a jail bar. It looked like the bar would pierce through his eye and brain. It actually looked brutal and deadly. ,,Batman never kills, he just won't save them from their destiny."
Shehmi eh he’s fine, little do you know he met killer croc and they started a beautiful family together and are loving happily ever aft- OH GOD CROC ATTACKED THE AIRSHIP
If not for getting this game by total accident for Christmas one year, I would not be where I am. This game definitely has my highest level of appreciation, despite being second last in my ranking. Honestly, the only thing I can think of that you didn't mention was... actually, never mind, you pretty much covered everything actually wrong here.
One thing that I completely hated and will never get over was the white flash that would appear whenever you activate and deactivate the detective mode. It’s like looking into the sun
It does feel like Joker's plan was changed at the last minute as the whole game made it clear he wanted an army. But then he says the whole thing was to turn batman into a titan which was never brought up once through out the whole game.
1. No NG+ 2. No one left to beat after story 3. Wish I could change back to the undamaged suit 4. Final boss fight wasnt bad but it was underwhelming 5. I dont think I can find a 5th... lol
those are very good points, they could have done so much more with the post game but i guess they didin't have enough time but they later fixed literally everything that we complained about lol
I can't remember if you get all the interview tapes by the end of the game, but looking for those was kinda cool too, also completing all of the profiles and the Arkham story. I agree on the boss fights. When you catch Harley, there's no boss fight, and even Killer Croc wasn't actually a boss fight.
I'm willing to give the Ivy boss fight a minor pass because (1) it's different than anything else in the game (though you're right about it being dodge/batarang again); and (2) it does sort of make sense for an Ivy fight in that situation -- she'd send minions and try to tank with her plants giving them special powers. The main problem with her fight is that Batman IMMEDIATELY shows he could have called in the Batwing remotely to help but just forgot to...? Or maybe that's supposed to be his arrogant competence. {g} The main problem with the Croc fight is that it's never even a fight. It's just Croc trolling you for ten minutes of paaaaddding. I hate playing it when I get there in the game, but I do give it points for trying to be different and creative. The two Zzazz fights aren't really fights, and that's okay, he isn't really a physical threat to Batman. He was supposed to be a Lecter-like super-criminal, but that got written out (handled a little better in ArkCity though!)
Yeah this game was incredible but there were some mistakes that's for sure. I wish they'd have remade it properly too instead of Return to Arkham which was just ok.
I wouldn't really call the Killer Croc and Scarecrow segments as boss fights. They were just that, gameplay segments. A Boss fight would suggest an actual fight.
Of course there’s no consistency in Batman’s combat in this game, he’s not Freakin Superman. Plus in City and Knight it feels like he’s flying all over the place!
i love your videos, man! one thing i do wanna add to this one of their challenges. it's hard for the wrong reasons. in the DLC where you fight an infinite amount of enemies, maniacs are among them. you actually cannot knock them out by beating hitting them enough like normal thugs. you need to crouch over them, hit triangle and bam. another thug can stop that by hitting you. they can't do that when breaking someone's limb or throwing someone else, but batman won't do either to maniacs. eventually, there'll be too many maniacs and the number just keeps growing. yes, i'm aware that you can get lucky by knocking them into one of the the electric gates but that's hard to do considering you're fighting other enemies. i mean... if you give me unlimited enemies, at least allow me to beat them unconscious. if i'm missing something, please lemme know. i'm trying to beat my high score here.
What I always got from it was that Joker's plan was to create an army of monsters out of the Titan formula, and to try and add Batman to those ranks. When Batman started resisting the change, Joker shot himself up in order to try and get Batman to give in to the effects so he would either kill Joker, go crazy and kill others or just... hurt him a lot? Make him ugly out of spite? Look, you can't expect sense out of a senseless man. This was all just a bit to the Joker, I'm sure.
something all 4 did right though is how replayable they are and mainly the first 3 but can be Knight if you leave it a while but there's so much nostalgia when you replay too, it's just something these games are perfect for is all the feels they give you
9:22 The plot of Asylum was a joint one between Joker and Scarecrow trying to drive Batman insane and turn him into a monster with a combination of both fear gas and Titan to prove he was as crazy as everyone else in the asylum. I think Joker planned to turn both himself and Batman into Titan monsters so they could have a final fight to the death and no matter if Joker won and went on to use an army of monsters to destroy Gotham and kill everyone in it or Batman, despite killing Joker would be a rampaging Titan monster wreaking havoc on the city it would be a win for Joker.
It was honestly just such a stupid plan that I replay through this game more than once every year and constantly don't even care at the very end what he's trying to do. Oh I should hulk out Gordon, oh I guess I'm gonna hulk out Batman, oh it didn't work I'll hulk out myself.
Going on that "how long ago this game came out" thing. I realized that I still lived in our last house when I got that game, and that was a while ago, and then I thought like "didn't City come out when I lived there too?" And yes, fall of 2011! That's insane to me, that feels so long ago. A way that I can put that into perspective for myself is that, on the run up to City (and even Knight) I would log in to a forum that was all about the Arkham games and see other peoples ideas, share my own, etc. And, while I'm sure people still do, but when was the last time any of you were on an actual set up forum (website) for just ONE specific thing? Not a subreddit, not an "Amino" but a real, on its own forum
Going back and playing Knight is even frustrating after playing games that have perfected the Rocksteady combat formula because you'll randomly drop combos and Batman will go off flying in random directions even when your are pointing the analog in the direction you intend for him to go.
Ngl the Joker boss fight would been better if it was like the Mr Freeze Boss in City where he adapts and you have to use different ways to attack him instead of him just trying to hit Batman before leaving to pose while sending out thugs. Then again, boss fights were last minute additions to the game (plus Rocksteady at the time only had a handful of people).
I think after City and Knight the combat from Asylum got dumped on so much! But here’s the thing! This happens all the time whatever game you’re playing, the gameplay upgrades piece by piece. The gameplay in Asylum isn’t as good as Knight, Origins or City’s gameplay. Asylum’s gameplay was revolutionary!
I mean I know riddler was like the only thing to do but there was also collecting the tapes and the Amadeus Arkham stuff. That kept me busy when I was going plat hunting. I also felt kind of fulfilled and sad when I was done with doing all that.
I think the upgrade system was pretty weak in this game. You can get all the good upgrades way too early, and like 75 percent of the upgrades are not very useful
about the combo mechanincs, once you get a hold of stuff, you wont drop combos,like at all, thugs become a piece of cake. even like 20-25 are no deal. you have to judge the timings and target the people from there. although it is kinda bland if only 2 guys are there
I was quite young when I first played batman, I was in game( like a uk GameStop )with my brother, and I wanted a new game. I saw batman Arkham city, and it was in offer, so he bought it me. I play Arkham city first, then asylum, then origins and then knight
I consider more effective Ivy's fight than killer croc at least with Ivy you really fight with her and with her minions... but against croc you just have to throw a batarang and that's it... But great video.
I recently replayed arkham asylum, I hadn't played it for nearly 10 years but after playing the other games especially arkham knight the combat was such a huge issue for me, it was hard to come back to.
Nitpick but I wish the ghost of arkham turned out to be hugo strange it would just make more sense because it would tie in to his obsession with the minds of criminals and batman and be a segway to his arkham city plans and show that he himself has a bit of a strange mind I could just see it as a way for him to be involved in the arkham story more like maybe he starts out being obsessed with the joker but after witnessing the events of arkham that’s when he starts focusing more on batman as the cause of all the madness
The one thing I disliked most about the Titan Joker fight was the use of the henchmen. It makes sense, but I feel like for a final boss, henchmen should've been taken out of the equation. It should have just been Batman and Joker to duel it out, and that's it. It would've made for a satisfying ending.
I thought the Killer Croc fight was crap, it hyped it up so much as him being a big challenge only for him to go down with one batarang over and over whilst you walk really slowly
The real challenge in that fight was not losing patience once you're asked to do the exact same thing for the fourth time in a row. Oh, I have to walk slowly through a sewer for 200 meters this time? What variety!
I agree with your complaints about the boss fights in general, but the one boss fight I did like was the Poison Ivy fight, while my least-favorite was the Killer Croc fight. Honestly, it's probably in part because the Ivy fight was extremely brief, while the Croc fight seemed to take an eternity thanks to the no-running rule and the needlessly repetitive "collect the spores" gimmick. And sure, you use the Batarang against Poison Ivy, but at least you're not having to throw it at a character who is charging at you, a la Bane, the Titan monsters, and, yes, Killer Croc. The zoomed-out camera during the Ivy fight also led to a refreshing change of pace in the gameplay. For once, the game felt _fast_ instead of sluggish and plodding as it did in so many of the other boss fights.
Post-stroy in this one is strange, because it not meant to be, due to the fact that after last Gordon conversation Batman fly's off in batwing to go after Two-face, it's said in cutscene. Combat is olay, i would say that it's okay as much as resident's evil movement, slugish at first but nice overall. It might requre a bit used to, btw if enemies are down, just go for ground-pound, it's not restricted.
Good Video ...My 5 are 1. No other Batsuit Skins , except for the PC gamers 2. Titan Monster , Bane , and Titan Joker Boss Fights 3. No Robin , Nightwing Or Alfred 4. No other Villains appearances like Ras, Or Great White Shark . 5. No DLC add ons.
It sucks that this is the only one with the joker as a playable character and we had 0 skins. Imagine playing as Heath ledgers joker or Jack Nicholson’s joker.
Great video I also have a suggestion for another video you should do top 5 things return to Arkham did wrong and right because there are plenty of ups and downs with the remasters
A little nitpick about this game is the flash that appears when you activate/deactivate the detective mode, it always annoys me that you are in a dark environment, and probably you're playing in a dark room, and a sudden white flash appears, I don't know about anyone else but it's annoying to me.
donaldo141194 I feel this I would be in a dark room and turn the detective vision on and would literally close my eyes because it was like getting flash banged
His plan was to turn Jim Gordon into a titan so batman would be forced into fighting Jim but batman jamp infront of the bullet so he had to improvise the acho boss battle sucks but
You know, the idea that you are dead if thugs spot you during a predator mission would have been a pro, were it not for the fact when they kill you the game advises you to try and get out of danger.
This game set the bar for future games like Spider-Man ps4 and even games like hitman absolution Plus the voice acting really brought back my childhood for me Wasn’t really gaming at the time and this game reignited that little kid tucked away Definitely my favorite but for nostalgic reasons
Honestly this is not having a post game is kind of a plus for me. There's kind of too much extra padding in the other Arkham games, this one is just tight all around. Allow the extra missions and Arkham City and night we're just unsatisfying with very little resolution
Joker's plan was to have an army of monsters, ie Titan henchmen and escape Arkham. I don't think Batman was part of his plan (although, obviously Bats would try to stop him). As Joker says before the last boss fight (which was awful), "you're ruining my big night." He didn't necessarily want to turn Batman to a titan freak. But Batman had stopped Joker from escaping Arkham. That's the way I always thought of it anyway
The Joker boss really sours Asylum for me, more than the Batmobile sections of Knight. It laid the ground work for what the franchise would become but it's in 3rd place for me personally.
While the hulking out and fighting batman isn't characteristically joker he also is joker and isn't necessarily supposed to make sense with his decisions all the time he acts impulsively
See the reason I like city better than asylum is because in asylum the whole main plot is to stop joker but in city it’s really to stop Hugo strange joker is just the next big guy to take down and the reveal of Ra’s being the one behind strange and protocol 10 was amazing
Love the video but I only have one problem with one of the points you made and it’s one about the joker trying to turn Batman into a titan monster, the joker is someone that is literally consumed by chaos and lives off it, turning Batman into a titan monster would lead to the destruction of Gotham and Batman would kill multiple civilians giving joker what he wants plus Batman would finally kill him because the joker just wants to see the world burn and Batman knows that a titan version of him would be unstoppable so that’s why the joker tried to originally turn Batman into a titan
I got the 4pack after not playing in a long long time and only played city before in the early 2010s. Played the first 2 games in a row in a handful of days, and I was blown away at the start of city walking around as bruce wayne fighitng and climbing by how much better movement and combat were than asylum. I'm glad I played asylum first here because it would have been a bit annoying (not terrible but annoying) to go to that after trying city first. Still haven't played the other 2 yet but I'm hoping there also good, first 2 were both fantastic.
For me skins would have ruined it. Your suit became damaged as you used it and you had no access to fresh gear, sorta. Like the bright colors of the beyond suit would have just stuffed up the whole atmosphere
At the end of the game the cops come and return everyone back to their cells. You would think the staff would be doing their jobs again and you would see the crazies in their cells, but no, everything is the way it was just before the joker fight. Makes no sense.
That’s why Jim Gordon,Batman and his Bat Family are the only competent people in Gotham City.The rest of law enforcement were once good,or were always corrupt. Also why the villains are always locked up in the Asylum,was mentioned in one of the episodes of the BAS. They’re put there because,they were arrested by a Batman a vigilante and Jim Gordon. However the rest of law enforcement doesn’t think like Jim. Bullock for example was very much deep with Falconi before meeting Jim in Gotham’s standpoint. In the Burtonverse it was Eckhardt and in the Nolanverse it was Flass. Later however the canon character Bullock becomes more trusting of Batman and becomes a good ally of Jim.
I would like to but I don't own VR. I don't have enough room in my place to use it so I'd probably have to watch through the game and base it on that if I did.
If you look up the original design for the joker boss fight in Arkham asylum it was a much better design he looked more like a lanky Monster version of him he wasn't all big and bulky he was kind of like a snake almost I guess would be the best way to describe it a lot of people I've heard from telling me that this design could have made a better boss battle kind of flipping The predator emissions or Batman's being hunted and joker's the Hunter
Joker's plan was to make Batman hulk out and go crazy. And the plan was more about the journey rather than the endgame, making Batman fight everyone else for his own amusement. He just wanted to cause chaos. But when he saw Batman resist the change he thought that he could make just as much chaos if he hulked out so he shot himself with the Titan. Very much in character. Terrible boss fight though.
"Joker had no plan at the end." -- strictly speaking, he did, but Batman foiled it already. (I don't mean "turn Batman into a mad Titan". I mean "TURN ALL OF GOTHAM INTO AN ARMY OF CRAZED TITANS!") This was more like a desperation consolation prize that Joker threw together at the last minute. Which is fine, in context. They even spell that out in the cutscene dialogue. That didn't bother me. What did bother me was that the Joker had captured Gordon, as a surprise hostage, which didn't make much sense, because by the end of the game I felt no particular hurry to go stop the Joker instead of, say, tooling around after the Riddler nonsense.
1. Some mundane bosses, mostly Joker, Poison Ivy and the overuse of titan fights 2. Compared to the newer games, Batman feels less fluent and fastpaced to control 3. The combat tends to get finicky from time to time (which also holds true for the sequels, just not as much) The lack of customization doesn't bother me and to me doesn't get in the way of anything but would still have been nice to see
This is still my hands down favorite in the series. Being stuck in the Asylum with all the insane people still just gives me the feels. The intro is still my favorite moment in the series. Walking Joker through the entrance while knowing something is off and then seeing Croc walk by being insanely intimidating. The riddles are so good tying in characters from the Batman franchise. The PA system is still my favorite thing about the series. Hearing that very defining ring with Joker chiming in to taunt me is just so damn good. This game for it's time was so damn revolutionary that people still talk about it even today and it paved the way for all the other game. The map layout is hands down the best in the series and was so meticulously well done that you felt every area you visited meant something. This game is also, the most dark and scary one that it feels like a semi horror game. God I love this game.
same. And this also makes me hope that in the future we can get another sort of claustrophobic and horror skewed game like this. I love the entire series, but I think that angling Batman into a claustrophobic confined environment where he was stuck with his enemies, many of whom were terrifying like you pointed out, really benefited the games overall atmosphere.
@@DegenerateJay I agree, I would love for them to go the Asylum style route again. After Asylum they strayed so far away from what made it so good imo. It started just being this open world of chaos where you never truly felt in danger as you did in Asylum. Don't get me wrong I love all of the games in the series, yes, even Origins and Knight. I just still prefer this closed off feeling where I had to truly master my abilities as the batman. The other ones felt so much more forgiving and never gave that feeling of being Batman struggling outside of those epic moments with the joker battling inside your brain in Knight(definitely the highlight of that game imo). I truly hope Legacy can capture that feeling again because I missed it so much playing the other 3. Thanks for responding and genuinely caring about the series enough to take time out and speak with others on here. Believe me when I say that responding to your viewers who take time to respond to your videos is a big deal so thanks for that.
@@DegenerateJay Or they could make being trapped in the asylum a significantly large part of the story while also having a major city map
@nabil chowdhury Actually in several comics and even animated runs batman does dodge all over against them while getting in free hits because he cant straight up fight them head to head power wise without some type of suit or piece of equipment. Not saying origins fights werent awesome but comics depict batman fighting more like asylum more often. Also, everything is opinion and nothing is fact. I just prefer this game because of all the things mentioned above. If this wasn't directed at me then disregard.
@@cadepopkin7558 that would take away from the confinement feeling
Harley Quinn's nurse outfit definitely should be on the list of things it got right
It was definitely pretty hahaha
"IS THIS THING ONNN!?" -- Arleen Sorkin's last role as Quinn, F for respects.
@@CreekGamingMontages there have been a couple of performances as good as Sorkin's, but mainly by avoiding trying to sound exactly like hers. (The Telltale series & ArkOrigins were both very toned down for different reasons, and benefited greatly.)
Still disappointed they didn’t put any of her past Arkham skins into Arkham knight like same with batgirl, she didn’t get even 1.
Ye except her face was busted 🤪
Last time I was this early fans actually knew from developers when a teaser for The next Arkham game was gonna come out
Oh no :(
I would say...
1] Titanlike boss fights (Joker's included).
2] Some of the character concepts you could unlock being a bit defunct later in the series.
3] Inconsistent dropped combos in combat, yeah I'm with you there.
4] Gordon's character model.
5] Bane's character.
And what it did more right than the others...
1] Sense of verticality, despite being in such a smaller game area.
2] Question marks unveiled in detective vision, from only a particular angle.
3] The glitch sequence (although I'm not asking for another one - once is enough).
4] Presentation graphics like the angular boxes and bats flying to reveal area names and such.
5] The batmobile. It's a car, not a tank.
Yeah, and you don’t use the batmobile at all, you grab gel from it? Like can’t we atleast get to drive about and run over some lunatics am I right?
@@Darthox200 damn I forgot about the lunatics. Interrupting their attacks was quite satisfying. As for your suggestion... if they'd had time, I wouldn't have minded a tiny bit of driving but in general I liked that they kept it as a background prop (I posted two lists and I listed it in the good half).
Jane Ross
Yeah I was just making a joke, I like they kept in the background
@@Darthox200 ah sorry I misread your tone! Tricky to know over the internet.
Jane Ross
Yeah, the internet it the most confusing place
Imagine the final boss would be that joker send you like 5 super villain at the same time
That would of been cool to see him run the gauntlet
(Degenerate Ray makes constructive criticism on Arkham Asylum)
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Degenerate Jay I still love the asylum game and still have it soon to be 2020 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
*"ENOUGH FROM THE CLOWN !"*
@@pokerface4 How about a magic trick?
for the suits thing i'd say it was probably influenced by the fact that at the time of making asylum at rocksteady they were only 40 people in fact one of them had only one role and it was animating batman's cape and spent two years on doing it...so i think it was more of a problem of men power
It’s rlly disappointed the mastermind joker’s masterplan is to just become discount bane with a mohock
Yeah and like Degenerate Jay pointed out that plan made no sense at all. Usually Joker in City, Origins, and even Knight they all had a plan where as his endgame in Asylum he had no plan. In the beginning of the game, it seems like Joker's plan was to take over Arkham Asylum and release all the inmates to cause havoc and destruction across Gotham.
I loved the croc one, I remember being genuinely scared to even play that mission alone when I was 9😂
The crazies scared me too
I played it several times scary
I was in my 20's when Asylum came out, and that Killer Croc fight in the sewers scared the crap out of me.
Yeeeaaaa
I actually liked the Bane fight (minus minions) and Poison Ivy, because yeah it's basic just fire batarangs but you've got to dodge the spore, vines and fight a few guys while doing it, good challenge. Overall I don't think there's a boss I dislike minus the bland titans for being bland, they're all pretty fun
The Lunatics gave me nightmares
5:24 Batman just killed that GUY
Hehehehehe
Batman would never kill not even you.
@@abramsullivan7764 Sir, in Batman's first appearance he killed and a man by shooting them and hanging a man.
Don't worry, there's a bat mattress at the bottom of the pit.
BTW getting tased by the batmobile doesn't prevent the damage, it makes it worse.
5 things it did wrong
1.it was too scary for my age.
2. It was too scary for my age
3.it was too scary for my age
4.it was too scary for my age
5.it was too scary for my age
Just AViewer this game freaked me out when I was young as well 😂
Same😂😂
Just AViewer omg you're so funny kid
Killer Kroc scene reminded me of jeepers keepers
The Bane fight and Killer Croc fight creeped me out when I watched my brother play it back then
One of the things that it got wrong was that the origins of the characters are from the comics and in later games,their origins don't make sense,for example at that point,Bruce didn't know that Hush was Thomas Elliot and he found out in Arkham City.
Also,even though Quincy Sharp's bio said that he has schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder,he doesn't show signs of it in any of the games
@Gustavo Montoya yes but I meant it during the games except the spirit of Arkham.If Batman found out that Quincy killed all those patients,why couldn't he report him to the police? He has the evidence to prove it
@@robtz759 You know that's a good point. He would never had become major and all the crap that happened in City wouldn't of happened.
Actually it all made sense in city and Asylum, Batman did know Thomas Elliot was Hush there's no reason to think he didn't
To be fair.. Does Joker look like a guy with a Plan?
Yeah..
Radin V r/whoosh
@@culturedmonk460 I get the joke moron. I'm saying yeah cause he clearly had a plan.
@@ColdShoulder131 yeah
No one on these replies has seen The Dark Knight
The art from the GUI on Arkham Asylum was the best in the series
Here are my biggest issues with the game, granted some could be considered really nitpicky
1. The nonexistent lip syncing, just look at any character's mouths when they're talking, it's worse than a typical anime dub when it comes to their lip movements matching the dialogue
2. The thugs all look way too similar. Granted every game in the series has this issue to a certain extent, but in this it feels like they just took the same 3 models, gave them two different skin tones and *maybe* add clown makeup from time to time
3. Lack of alternate skins. This is a cardinal sin for any superhero game imo, they could've added so many iconic suits but all we got was an armored version of the Asylum batsuit, which we couldn't even use outside of challenge maps
According to some people I'm the king of nitpicking so I appreciate this comment. In all seriousness these are all issues with the game, I agree.
I agree, however to add to skins compliant. I wished we could use the Armored Batsuit during story mode
It was the first in the series and was pretty much a new engine in use and there are probably rights issues with getting certain costumes that would make it harder at the time. Rocksteady I would say was relatively new at the time
@@burnwitch1293 I think they had other games under their belt at the time. But nothing like Arkham. However skins and modeling is pretty basic for game design. I think it comes down to time or money why we didn't get more.
@Chandler Burse Yeah don't get me wrong, I completely understand why these issues are present, hence why they're nitpicks and not the worst thing ever committed
In defense of The Joker in asylum
He did have a backup plan to break the bat psychologically. His original backup plan was to make Batman fight Titan Gordon
Considering Joker have 2 Titan serums, he probably was planning to make Batman choose between saving himself or Gordon.
Joker's plan actually seemed to mutate Gordon. The only reason Batman was almost mutated was because he took the shot for Gordon. Joker then wanted to even the odds and fight a mutated Batman while being mutated himself, but then Bats took the antidote.
Playing this as a Nine year old all boss battles were terrifying and intense
I did like the criminally insane fight where you fight until you run out of health as pose to Arkham City where you had a timer. But in City it was cool you could block two enemies, which was improvement from this one.
i’ve completed all of the games about 5 times and i never got tired of them despite noticing some of the mistakes before you pointed them out in your videos. I love that you talk about these stuff and i enjoy watching your videos a lot
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t joker’s original plan to make an army of titan monsters. Then when Batman blew up the titan reserve at the gardens, joker used the titan on Ivy. Then when batman stopped that crisis, joker used tried to use it on Batman, but ended up using it on himself. Using titan on himself was way down the list of backup plans.
Everyone: Batman doesnt kill
Me: 5:22
I actually punched a thug so hard, it glitched his head into a jail bar.
It looked like the bar would pierce through his eye and brain. It actually looked brutal and deadly.
,,Batman never kills, he just won't save them from their destiny."
Luc Germain it was a joke....
I punched a guy into water in Arkham City. Let's just say he didn't float.
Shehmi eh he’s fine, little do you know he met killer croc and they started a beautiful family together and are loving happily ever aft- OH GOD CROC ATTACKED THE AIRSHIP
If not for getting this game by total accident for Christmas one year, I would not be where I am. This game definitely has my highest level of appreciation, despite being second last in my ranking. Honestly, the only thing I can think of that you didn't mention was... actually, never mind, you pretty much covered everything actually wrong here.
I agree. I wasn't nearly the level of Bat-Fan I was before this game came out.
One thing that I completely hated and will never get over was the white flash that would appear whenever you activate and deactivate the detective mode. It’s like looking into the sun
It does feel like Joker's plan was changed at the last minute as the whole game made it clear he wanted an army.
But then he says the whole thing was to turn batman into a titan which was never brought up once through out the whole game.
Not going to lie, as a kid, the killer croc boss fight put the fear of god in my heart. That fight traumatized me
1. No NG+
2. No one left to beat after story
3. Wish I could change back to the undamaged suit
4. Final boss fight wasnt bad but it was underwhelming
5. I dont think I can find a 5th... lol
those are very good points, they could have done so much more with the post game but i guess they didin't have enough time but they later fixed literally everything that we complained about lol
This game holds so much nostalgia for me since it was the first Batman game I played
I can't remember if you get all the interview tapes by the end of the game, but looking for those was kinda cool too, also completing all of the profiles and the Arkham story. I agree on the boss fights. When you catch Harley, there's no boss fight, and even Killer Croc wasn't actually a boss fight.
8:01 that’s cause Joker didn’t think Batman would win this time.
I'm willing to give the Ivy boss fight a minor pass because (1) it's different than anything else in the game (though you're right about it being dodge/batarang again); and (2) it does sort of make sense for an Ivy fight in that situation -- she'd send minions and try to tank with her plants giving them special powers. The main problem with her fight is that Batman IMMEDIATELY shows he could have called in the Batwing remotely to help but just forgot to...? Or maybe that's supposed to be his arrogant competence. {g}
The main problem with the Croc fight is that it's never even a fight. It's just Croc trolling you for ten minutes of paaaaddding. I hate playing it when I get there in the game, but I do give it points for trying to be different and creative.
The two Zzazz fights aren't really fights, and that's okay, he isn't really a physical threat to Batman. He was supposed to be a Lecter-like super-criminal, but that got written out (handled a little better in ArkCity though!)
Yeah this game was incredible but there were some mistakes that's for sure. I wish they'd have remade it properly too instead of Return to Arkham which was just ok.
Bob Bill why are you even watching a video about Batman then
@Bob Bill ?
@Bob Bill everything good at home?
"Just ok", really?
I wouldn't really call the Killer Croc and Scarecrow segments as boss fights. They were just that, gameplay segments. A Boss fight would suggest an actual fight.
Of course there’s no consistency in Batman’s combat in this game, he’s not Freakin Superman. Plus in City and Knight it feels like he’s flying all over the place!
With alot of these, you could say that the series was in its early stages. However, i do agree with most of these. Amazing video btw❤
i love your videos, man! one thing i do wanna add to this one of their challenges. it's hard for the wrong reasons. in the DLC where you fight an infinite amount of enemies, maniacs are among them. you actually cannot knock them out by beating hitting them enough like normal thugs. you need to crouch over them, hit triangle and bam. another thug can stop that by hitting you. they can't do that when breaking someone's limb or throwing someone else, but batman won't do either to maniacs. eventually, there'll be too many maniacs and the number just keeps growing. yes, i'm aware that you can get lucky by knocking them into one of the the electric gates but that's hard to do considering you're fighting other enemies. i mean... if you give me unlimited enemies, at least allow me to beat them unconscious.
if i'm missing something, please lemme know. i'm trying to beat my high score here.
What I always got from it was that Joker's plan was to create an army of monsters out of the Titan formula, and to try and add Batman to those ranks. When Batman started resisting the change, Joker shot himself up in order to try and get Batman to give in to the effects so he would either kill Joker, go crazy and kill others or just... hurt him a lot? Make him ugly out of spite? Look, you can't expect sense out of a senseless man.
This was all just a bit to the Joker, I'm sure.
something all 4 did right though is how replayable they are and mainly the first 3 but can be Knight if you leave it a while but there's so much nostalgia when you replay too, it's just something these games are perfect for is all the feels they give you
6:38 there was a Nolan-verse skin in Origins if you complete the Dark Knight challenges
You said the amored skin was the only other suit but if you think about it you can’t Evan use it in the normal game outside of the challenge maps
9:22 The plot of Asylum was a joint one between Joker and Scarecrow trying to drive Batman insane and turn him into a monster with a combination of both fear gas and Titan to prove he was as crazy as everyone else in the asylum. I think Joker planned to turn both himself and Batman into Titan monsters so they could have a final fight to the death and no matter if Joker won and went on to use an army of monsters to destroy Gotham and kill everyone in it or Batman, despite killing Joker would be a rampaging Titan monster wreaking havoc on the city it would be a win for Joker.
Maybe you can do a series like this for the Telltale series? If you've played them that is
Currently replaying! thanks for the idea!
8:46 actually he tried hulking out Gordon and Batman stopped the shot and it injected Batman, so his original plan was to make Batman fight Gordon
It was honestly just such a stupid plan that I replay through this game more than once every year and constantly don't even care at the very end what he's trying to do. Oh I should hulk out Gordon, oh I guess I'm gonna hulk out Batman, oh it didn't work I'll hulk out myself.
Going on that "how long ago this game came out" thing. I realized that I still lived in our last house when I got that game, and that was a while ago, and then I thought like "didn't City come out when I lived there too?" And yes, fall of 2011! That's insane to me, that feels so long ago.
A way that I can put that into perspective for myself is that, on the run up to City (and even Knight) I would log in to a forum that was all about the Arkham games and see other peoples ideas, share my own, etc. And, while I'm sure people still do, but when was the last time any of you were on an actual set up forum (website) for just ONE specific thing? Not a subreddit, not an "Amino" but a real, on its own forum
The cliffhanger ending was confusing as hell for me.
I assume the canon one is Scarecrow.
Bob Bill *w h a t*
Bob Bill idiot
The 3 are canons, bane, scarecrow and joker come back in the next games
Going back and playing Knight is even frustrating after playing games that have perfected the Rocksteady combat formula because you'll randomly drop combos and Batman will go off flying in random directions even when your are pointing the analog in the direction you intend for him to go.
Ngl the Joker boss fight would been better if it was like the Mr Freeze Boss in City where he adapts and you have to use different ways to attack him instead of him just trying to hit Batman before leaving to pose while sending out thugs.
Then again, boss fights were last minute additions to the game (plus Rocksteady at the time only had a handful of people).
I think after City and Knight the combat from Asylum got dumped on so much! But here’s the thing! This happens all the time whatever game you’re playing, the gameplay upgrades piece by piece. The gameplay in Asylum isn’t as good as
Knight, Origins or City’s gameplay. Asylum’s gameplay was revolutionary!
I mean I know riddler was like the only thing to do but there was also collecting the tapes and the Amadeus Arkham stuff. That kept me busy when I was going plat hunting. I also felt kind of fulfilled and sad when I was done with doing all that.
I think the upgrade system was pretty weak in this game. You can get all the good upgrades way too early, and like 75 percent of the upgrades are not very useful
When he said i love her in the game, i thought he ment something else
about the combo mechanincs, once you get a hold of stuff, you wont drop combos,like at all, thugs become a piece of cake. even like 20-25 are no deal. you have to judge the timings and target the people from there. although it is kinda bland if only 2 guys are there
The combat seems to be just fine in my opinion, I always loved how Batman would send people flying with one kick lol.
I was quite young when I first played batman, I was in game( like a uk GameStop )with my brother, and I wanted a new game. I saw batman Arkham city, and it was in offer, so he bought it me. I play Arkham city first, then asylum, then origins and then knight
the best thing with asylum compared to the others is the lack of filler missions when it comes to replayability
I liked that Harley still called Ivy 'Red', and let her out of her cell as a nod to their friendship in the Animated series 😊
I consider more effective Ivy's fight than killer croc at least with Ivy you really fight with her and with her minions... but against croc you just have to throw a batarang and that's it... But great video.
The big problem I noticed was that whenever I turned on detective mode I was blinded by a whit light
I recently replayed arkham asylum, I hadn't played it for nearly 10 years but after playing the other games especially arkham knight the combat was such a huge issue for me, it was hard to come back to.
Nitpick but I wish the ghost of arkham turned out to be hugo strange it would just make more sense because it would tie in to his obsession with the minds of criminals and batman and be a segway to his arkham city plans and show that he himself has a bit of a strange mind I could just see it as a way for him to be involved in the arkham story more like maybe he starts out being obsessed with the joker but after witnessing the events of arkham that’s when he starts focusing more on batman as the cause of all the madness
The one thing I disliked most about the Titan Joker fight was the use of the henchmen. It makes sense, but I feel like for a final boss, henchmen should've been taken out of the equation. It should have just been Batman and Joker to duel it out, and that's it. It would've made for a satisfying ending.
I thought the Killer Croc fight was crap, it hyped it up so much as him being a big challenge only for him to go down with one batarang over and over whilst you walk really slowly
The real challenge in that fight was not losing patience once you're asked to do the exact same thing for the fourth time in a row. Oh, I have to walk slowly through a sewer for 200 meters this time? What variety!
When games evolved better it makes older games looked like a rough draft under development
Crocs boss fight makes me feel claustrophobic
I remember quitting the game once he showed up loll. I was young
I remember screaming
I agree with your complaints about the boss fights in general, but the one boss fight I did like was the Poison Ivy fight, while my least-favorite was the Killer Croc fight. Honestly, it's probably in part because the Ivy fight was extremely brief, while the Croc fight seemed to take an eternity thanks to the no-running rule and the needlessly repetitive "collect the spores" gimmick. And sure, you use the Batarang against Poison Ivy, but at least you're not having to throw it at a character who is charging at you, a la Bane, the Titan monsters, and, yes, Killer Croc. The zoomed-out camera during the Ivy fight also led to a refreshing change of pace in the gameplay. For once, the game felt _fast_ instead of sluggish and plodding as it did in so many of the other boss fights.
Post-stroy in this one is strange, because it not meant to be, due to the fact that after last Gordon conversation Batman fly's off in batwing to go after Two-face, it's said in cutscene.
Combat is olay, i would say that it's okay as much as resident's evil movement, slugish at first but nice overall. It might requre a bit used to, btw if enemies are down, just go for ground-pound, it's not restricted.
this game did extremely insanely well for just the second game by rocksteady games
I think one of the worst things Asylum did was blind you every time you went into detective mode. God save you if you were playing it in the dark.
Good Video ...My 5 are
1. No other Batsuit Skins , except for the PC gamers
2. Titan Monster , Bane , and Titan Joker Boss Fights
3. No Robin , Nightwing Or Alfred
4. No other Villains appearances like Ras, Or Great White Shark .
5. No DLC add ons.
It sucks that this is the only one with the joker as a playable character and we had 0 skins. Imagine playing as Heath ledgers joker or Jack Nicholson’s joker.
I wish they kept some of the comic book aesthetic instead of the tech style they did in the future games
Great video I also have a suggestion for another video you should do top 5 things return to Arkham did wrong and right because there are plenty of ups and downs with the remasters
A little nitpick about this game is the flash that appears when you activate/deactivate the detective mode, it always annoys me that you are in a dark environment, and probably you're playing in a dark room, and a sudden white flash appears, I don't know about anyone else but it's annoying to me.
donaldo141194 I feel this I would be in a dark room and turn the detective vision on and would literally close my eyes because it was like getting flash banged
I’m annoyed it wasn’t fixed in the “remaster”
His plan was to turn Jim Gordon into a titan so batman would be forced into fighting Jim but batman jamp infront of the bullet so he had to improvise the acho boss battle sucks but
To be fair rockstedy only had 40 people at the time working on the game
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@@chcufcicufufu8030 yup
You know, the idea that you are dead if thugs spot you during a predator mission would have been a pro, were it not for the fact when they kill you the game advises you to try and get out of danger.
Tbh this is probably still my favorite Arkham game
This game set the bar for future games like Spider-Man ps4 and even games like hitman absolution
Plus the voice acting really brought back my childhood for me
Wasn’t really gaming at the time and this game reignited that little kid tucked away
Definitely my favorite but for nostalgic reasons
Honestly this is not having a post game is kind of a plus for me. There's kind of too much extra padding in the other Arkham games, this one is just tight all around. Allow the extra missions and Arkham City and night we're just unsatisfying with very little resolution
Imagine the heath ledger skin on the joker for the maps and the actual full game
The only thing that scared me was Killer Croc, I hated Jump Scares.
Joker's plan was to have an army of monsters, ie Titan henchmen and escape Arkham. I don't think Batman was part of his plan (although, obviously Bats would try to stop him). As Joker says before the last boss fight (which was awful), "you're ruining my big night." He didn't necessarily want to turn Batman to a titan freak. But Batman had stopped Joker from escaping Arkham. That's the way I always thought of it anyway
The Joker boss really sours Asylum for me, more than the Batmobile sections of Knight. It laid the ground work for what the franchise would become but it's in 3rd place for me personally.
While the hulking out and fighting batman isn't characteristically joker he also is joker and isn't necessarily supposed to make sense with his decisions all the time he acts impulsively
Arkham Asylum had the best riddles and boss fights, boss fights in city were amazing but there was too little. But like they were great I miss it.
See the reason I like city better than asylum is because in asylum the whole main plot is to stop joker but in city it’s really to stop Hugo strange joker is just the next big guy to take down and the reveal of Ra’s being the one behind strange and protocol 10 was amazing
Love the video but I only have one problem with one of the points you made and it’s one about the joker trying to turn Batman into a titan monster, the joker is someone that is literally consumed by chaos and lives off it, turning Batman into a titan monster would lead to the destruction of Gotham and Batman would kill multiple civilians giving joker what he wants plus Batman would finally kill him because the joker just wants to see the world burn and Batman knows that a titan version of him would be unstoppable so that’s why the joker tried to originally turn Batman into a titan
I got the 4pack after not playing in a long long time and only played city before in the early 2010s. Played the first 2 games in a row in a handful of days, and I was blown away at the start of city walking around as bruce wayne fighitng and climbing by how much better movement and combat were than asylum. I'm glad I played asylum first here because it would have been a bit annoying (not terrible but annoying) to go to that after trying city first. Still haven't played the other 2 yet but I'm hoping there also good, first 2 were both fantastic.
For me skins would have ruined it. Your suit became damaged as you used it and you had no access to fresh gear, sorta. Like the bright colors of the beyond suit would have just stuffed up the whole atmosphere
I’d like to see u guys do the Five Things on other games. Really enjoyed the Arkham series.
Same here not one game was bad in my opinion
At the end of the game the cops come and return everyone back to their cells. You would think the staff would be doing their jobs again and you would see the crazies in their cells, but no, everything is the way it was just before the joker fight. Makes no sense.
That’s why Jim Gordon,Batman and his Bat Family are the only competent people in Gotham City.The rest of law enforcement were once good,or were always corrupt. Also why the villains are always locked up in the Asylum,was mentioned in one of the episodes of the BAS. They’re put there because,they were arrested by a Batman a vigilante and Jim Gordon. However the rest of law enforcement doesn’t think like Jim. Bullock for example was very much deep with Falconi before meeting Jim in Gotham’s standpoint. In the Burtonverse it was Eckhardt and in the Nolanverse it was Flass. Later however the canon character Bullock becomes more trusting of Batman and becomes a good ally of Jim.
The poison ivy boss fight is exactly the same as the final boss of Dark Sector
Interesting, I haven't played that game.
Are you guys gonna do one of these videos on arkham VR?
I would like to but I don't own VR. I don't have enough room in my place to use it so I'd probably have to watch through the game and base it on that if I did.
Oh ok
If you look up the original design for the joker boss fight in Arkham asylum it was a much better design he looked more like a lanky Monster version of him he wasn't all big and bulky he was kind of like a snake almost I guess would be the best way to describe it a lot of people I've heard from telling me that this design could have made a better boss battle kind of flipping The predator emissions or Batman's being hunted and joker's the Hunter
5:24 Batman just murdered a dude!
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Even batman begins had 3 alt skins you could use in story mode.
Joker's plan was to make Batman hulk out and go crazy. And the plan was more about the journey rather than the endgame, making Batman fight everyone else for his own amusement. He just wanted to cause chaos. But when he saw Batman resist the change he thought that he could make just as much chaos if he hulked out so he shot himself with the Titan. Very much in character. Terrible boss fight though.
"Joker had no plan at the end." -- strictly speaking, he did, but Batman foiled it already. (I don't mean "turn Batman into a mad Titan". I mean "TURN ALL OF GOTHAM INTO AN ARMY OF CRAZED TITANS!") This was more like a desperation consolation prize that Joker threw together at the last minute. Which is fine, in context. They even spell that out in the cutscene dialogue. That didn't bother me. What did bother me was that the Joker had captured Gordon, as a surprise hostage, which didn't make much sense, because by the end of the game I felt no particular hurry to go stop the Joker instead of, say, tooling around after the Riddler nonsense.
They said an injustice skin but wasnt injustice released in 2011
1. Some mundane bosses, mostly Joker, Poison Ivy and the overuse of titan fights
2. Compared to the newer games, Batman feels less fluent and fastpaced to control
3. The combat tends to get finicky from time to time (which also holds true for the sequels, just not as much)
The lack of customization doesn't bother me and to me doesn't get in the way of anything but would still have been nice to see