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  • Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
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    The V10 engine is all but gone from the car industry, but with the V8 and V12 still going strong, why has the V10 died? Mike Fernie takes the DriveTribe M5 Touring for a spin to investigate this mystery.
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  • @Drivetribe
    @Drivetribe  Год назад +38

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    • @grantandre79
      @grantandre79 Год назад

      Cool plates but hilarious to me that they chose to feature/place movie art plates on DRIVETRIBE?

    • @ToTheGAMES
      @ToTheGAMES Год назад +4

      21% of this video is an ad

    • @Games_and_Music
      @Games_and_Music Год назад

      @@grantandre79 That was just Mike being a nerd, and taking advantage of the free goodies.
      I wasn't bothered by the choice to go for movies, but it is kinda funny to see how much we differ but still agree on some things, like i'm born in 1983, so i got a bit of the tail from the original trilogy, for me the Star Wars prequels were bad, but Darth Maul was pretty cool and underused.
      Shrek is okay, still kinda funny that it's a Canadian doing the Scottish accent, but he does it well (i guess, i'm not Scottish).
      But yeah, cool plates, i actually printed those as well on my previous job (2017), but they were more game related, lots of Witcher III concept art from the official artists, but we usually put epoxy on them, which would probably make them too heavy for the magnet.
      Just in case, don't hang them on the ceiling or above your bed/head, or stick some extra magnets on them, i'd hate to think what happens if they come loose.

    • @johnmoruzzi7236
      @johnmoruzzi7236 Год назад

      @@ToTheGAMES painful…

  • @UKBIGBLUENATION1
    @UKBIGBLUENATION1 Год назад +821

    The V10 era in Formula 1 was by far the best. That sound was so exhilarating. To hear them screaming down the front straight just made the hair on your arms stand up. Unfortunately, those days are gone.

    • @vibingwithvinyl
      @vibingwithvinyl Год назад +24

      I always preferred the V12 though.

    • @ckaspersen
      @ckaspersen Год назад +25

      V6 turbo with limits on absolutely everything sounds horrible 😭

    • @Scoots1994
      @Scoots1994 Год назад +7

      Nah, by the time the V10 came around there were so many limits on the cars they were all too similar.

    • @andljoy
      @andljoy Год назад +12

      the v10 F1 cars where just insane , this tiny little car just screaming a high pitched scream as it goes past the camera. Amazing.

    • @russotusso1695
      @russotusso1695 Год назад +6

      Well best if we talking sound (and that's debateble, I for example prefer older 60-70s engine sounds), but racing? It was if anything worse then now

  • @15DEAN1995
    @15DEAN1995 Год назад +751

    ill give genuine praise to audi for keeping to of the all time great engine layouts around for a while longer. they audi 5 cylinder and the audi lambo v10 are 2 unicorn engines abandoned by every other company but they kept them alive.

    • @NealyLL
      @NealyLL Год назад +42

      Volvo made a cracking 5 cylinder .

    • @15DEAN1995
      @15DEAN1995 Год назад +23

      @@NealyLL yeah it was used it a bunch of their cars like but also in some fords like the focus st225 (i own one of these and the sound is phenomenal) and rs as well as the mondeo etc. sadly though they stopped making those engines near a decade ago.
      the audi tt rs and audi rs3 i believe are the last cars to use a 5 cylinder petrol engine
      thinking about it i vaguely remember hearing ford made a diesel 5 cylinder? not sure if im remembering that right though.

    • @RicardoReview
      @RicardoReview Год назад +8

      That it's just because they are lazy and run by economists instead of engineers, also helps cheating all the emissions testing.

    • @NealyLL
      @NealyLL Год назад +7

      @@15DEAN1995 spot on, it’s just that 10yrs ago seems like yesterday these days😂😂.
      Your correct that Ford owned Volvo and used the Volvo engine a lot in a typical Ford fashion. It was a belter of an engine and the T5 was awesome. Easily tuned aswell . I think the diesel 5 cylinder was also a Volvo engine as the v70 and v50 also came with that unit. Could be wrong …. It’s been known😆

    • @diltd3989
      @diltd3989 Год назад +5

      @J M everything is heavy now; we can't make a 1800lb tin can anymore due to safety regs

  • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
    @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 Год назад +737

    Small correction... The BMW S85 engine is still one of the least expensive ways to own a V10 motorcar. There's no cheap way of owning one of these.

    • @Neawoulf
      @Neawoulf Год назад +48

      At least not a working one

    • @gg2324
      @gg2324 Год назад +33

      isnt the rs6 or the s6/s8 a bit more reliable?

    • @TheM5Dog
      @TheM5Dog Год назад +24

      @@gg2324 probably. But less power in the s6/S8 and they suffer coking issues, but I don't think they have any biggies.

    • @xyroah
      @xyroah Год назад +30

      I could give you a really corny answer but it kind of defeats the purpose of having a v10 in the first place.....I believe volkswagen made tdi v10 engines for the phaetons and the tourags. A lot more cheaper but....well its a volkswagen saloon engine

    • @TheMrJappo
      @TheMrJappo Год назад +8

      @@xyroah haha was about to say this before i found your comment. Indeed, but still a v10 is a v10. Will still sound cool just saying your cas has got a v10😎

  • @HansDelbruck53
    @HansDelbruck53 Год назад +240

    Well, as I recall, someone was supposed to create a Connaught V10 Miata, but I don't believe it ever got done.

    • @frostyl4269
      @frostyl4269 Год назад +16

      savagery

    • @Priapos93
      @Priapos93 Год назад +19

      I heard that there was a video showing a test drive where the car failed catastrophically, but I cannot find it. That makes me suspect litigation, or maybe just badly hurt feelings on both sides.

    • @WCHADWICK
      @WCHADWICK Год назад +11

      @@Priapos93 I’m pretty sure his mx5 is still at the workshop he was getting al the rust dealt with at. I’m not convinced it ever got the v10 installed to a drivable condition.

    • @mikehipperson
      @mikehipperson Год назад +2

      I was wondering too! I guess Connaught tried to run before they could walk? The induction system on the original engine seemed very Heath Robinson!

    • @clonetrooper576
      @clonetrooper576 Год назад +2

      It aint gonna happen, he just hopes you forget

  • @proesterchen
    @proesterchen Год назад +130

    The V10 was already dominant in the 3.5l era, winning the 1989, 1990, 1992 and 1993 championships.

    • @BJWT1047
      @BJWT1047 Год назад +8

      Dominant in terms of success, aye. But he meant that V12 and V8 layouts firmly fell out of favour from 1995-2005, with some cheeky and glorious exceptions.

  • @avoqado89
    @avoqado89 Год назад +209

    I'm surprised there's no mention of engine balance related to the number of cylinders. You can engineer some of the vibrations out, but V6's don't shake themselves to death like a V10 can.

    • @ianwright4255
      @ianwright4255 Год назад +45

      I was thinking that too. V-6's and V-10's should exist but they do. You'll get a much smoother ride out of an inline 4 or strait 6 or a V-8, V-12, or a V-16.

    • @cameraprepper7938
      @cameraprepper7938 Год назад +4

      Turbocharged V6 engines are the best !

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 Год назад +29

      @@ianwright4255 they should exist but they do

    • @singular9
      @singular9 Год назад +14

      That or the fact that the efficiency gains were due to transmission innovation and not engines them selves.

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 Год назад +20

      V6 would shake itself to death without balance shafts

  • @michaelcapon4871
    @michaelcapon4871 Год назад +268

    Definitely right about the 90s era people preferring V10! I bought a V10 Audi this year and I love it.
    Save the V10's!

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo Год назад +5

      i thought i was the odd one out. it's my favorite layout.

    • @Squidgy55
      @Squidgy55 Год назад +24

      Save the ICE in general.

    • @v8vince761
      @v8vince761 Год назад +3

      @@Squidgy55 ICE and Hydrogen fuel 😎

    • @Squidgy55
      @Squidgy55 Год назад +3

      @@v8vince761 👍😎

    • @christinecrockford1654
      @christinecrockford1654 Год назад

      I agree love my R8 v10

  • @ca9968
    @ca9968 Год назад +164

    I worked at a very exclusive used car dealership from 2008 until 2015 in Johannesburg and was the unofficial "Test Pilot and Fault Finder" when new stock came in, this would involve me taking the car home on a Saturday afternoon, with the company petrol card and putting a few km`s down and seeing if everything worked how it was supposed to and if there were any serious or not so serious faults that needed sorting before we could sell the car, over the years I got to drive some seriously cool machines but 2 stand out in my memory and both were V10`s...
    The E60 M5 and the Audi R8 V10.
    The highway loop around Johannesburg between 2am and 4am on a warm summer night made for a perfect test track...not much traffic, very few cops around (and the ones that were could easily be bribed with a few one hundred rand notes if I got a little bit lead footed on the throttle) and that glorious engine wail in the still of the night...
    I really miss that job!

    • @Justriding
      @Justriding Год назад +4

      Cool mate... I remember watching the Grand Prix at Kyalami, Hill span off right in front of us.. I was more interested in the 333is in the parking lot.

    • @ca9968
      @ca9968 Год назад +3

      @@Justriding Ah...the glory days...
      We actually had a mint 333i on the floor on consignment back in about 2010...full nut and bolt restoration, it didn`t sit long...went down to Cape Town on the back of a covered truck...stunning machine!

    • @jackkennedy7078
      @jackkennedy7078 Год назад

      Cap

    • @Priapos93
      @Priapos93 Год назад +1

      Dream job

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 Год назад +12

      @@Lofi.z34 🤨 Johannesburg is in South Africa...

  • @nathanielhampton2559
    @nathanielhampton2559 Год назад +25

    I’m really glad I’m not the only one that prefers the sound of a V10 over a V12.
    V12’s and V8’s both sound great but I just like the sound of a V10.
    I realize it’s inherently not as naturally balanced as a v12 but still.

  • @l042987
    @l042987 Год назад +56

    I Own a 94 viper.. One of the original v10s.. And it never stops pleasing.. Amazing cars... I understand the audi and Lamborghini statements you made. But you could of touched on how the viper inspired a viper racing series and also the 17acr dominated 16 major track records with its pushrod v10... And the fact vipers were pushrod v10s were just amazingly cool!

    • @Mirage8v
      @Mirage8v Год назад +10

      05 owner agrees. Unfortunately Mike shows his bias really badly here. The remark "and then came the heavy hitters" is definately misplaced.
      Not to mention that Audi and Lambo started V10 production (over) a decade later then the Viper! Yet they only keep it 5/6 years after the Viper ended production.

    • @gctzx
      @gctzx Год назад

      @@Mirage8v Be honest, would you rather own a Viper or a Lamborghini?

    • @metalswifty23
      @metalswifty23 Год назад +10

      @@gctzx Easy, Viper.

    • @mikeoxlong6351
      @mikeoxlong6351 Год назад +7

      @Charles Robinson Agreed, the Viper is criminally underrated and overlooked for what it originally brought to the table. People just didn't care simply because it was a Dodge :/. Seeing the SRT badging gets me just as excited as seeing a Lamborghini badge, personally.

    • @Welcometofacsistube
      @Welcometofacsistube Год назад +2

      @@gctzx viper all day

  • @OGDemonburn
    @OGDemonburn Год назад +51

    I still love the fact they shoved a viper v10 into a ram back in 2004-06. Can't wait to get mine back

    • @Pugjamin
      @Pugjamin Год назад +10

      Wait till you see that a guy named Alan shoved one between 2 wheels and made a Viper Motorbike!!

    • @OGDemonburn
      @OGDemonburn Год назад +4

      @@Pugjamin Dodge also made a concept bike called the Tomahawk with a viper motor. Seen 2 different designs on it.

    • @Pugjamin
      @Pugjamin Год назад +3

      @@OGDemonburn I remember seeing the tomahawk. Alan’s bike is street legal and he regularly rides it. He’s on RUclips, Alan milliard.

    • @OGDemonburn
      @OGDemonburn Год назад

      @@Pugjamin yeah I remember his version, Hulk of a cafe racer done with a gen 1 engine. There is also a v8 one called Lazarath that's similar to the Tomahawk but looks wicked in comparison.

    • @R.J._Lewis
      @R.J._Lewis Год назад +1

      @Rj's Custom and Classics Channel get back to work, this isn't what I pay you for.

  • @Kalepsis
    @Kalepsis Год назад +28

    Speaking of V-10s, what happened with the one you were building for the Miata?

    • @staLkerhu
      @staLkerhu Год назад +3

      Make this top comment!☝

  • @bertram-raven
    @bertram-raven Год назад +38

    Judd is definitely not an odd choice if your want a V10. Also, the Judd LMP engine is not really a ten year old design - Judd do keep updating their designs.

    • @playgt326
      @playgt326 Год назад +4

      And possibly, their type of fuel, in the future they will run on hydrogen and biofuel (or e fuels). 🏎️♻️

    • @zqzj
      @zqzj Год назад +4

      @@playgt326 hydrogen in a combustion engine is a terrible idea. It produces a ton of nitrogen oxides, and requires about 5 times the space for fuel storage

    • @playgt326
      @playgt326 Год назад

      @@zqzj Today engines are more efficient than old ones, between them, low NOx.

    • @zqzj
      @zqzj Год назад

      @@playgt326 please point me in the correct direction, because my most recent research says otherwise. Other than NOx, the other problem is energy density which is about 1/5th of gasoline

    • @playgt326
      @playgt326 Год назад

      @@zqzj Not only hydrogen, biogasoline and green electricity have the same problems, we need of all of them, using one technology makes what you say, energies crisis, the efficient also starts from the energy generators.

  • @wikussnygans600
    @wikussnygans600 Год назад +51

    To this day I tear up when I those v10 F1 cars down shift after a long straight! That is why the Lexus LFA remains my favourite road car.

  • @ElvisKremmen
    @ElvisKremmen Год назад +92

    I must agree with you Mike, the content this year has come along leaps and bounds, such a great channel to watch. Thanks

  • @micahsnyder7299
    @micahsnyder7299 Год назад +25

    I think the Ford Triton 6.8 is a real underdog in the V10 world. It sounds amazing and it’s an absolute monster.

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 Год назад +5

      All the older trucks where I work have the Ford V10 and when ever we get hit by catalytic converter thieves as much as I hate the mountain of hassle I am about to go through to fix them they do sound amazing.

    • @Welcometofacsistube
      @Welcometofacsistube Год назад +4

      Owned one and own a dodge truck v10 and both are great engines. Dodge more power but the Ford better gas mileage

    • @jaredkennedy6576
      @jaredkennedy6576 Год назад +3

      I love the howl they make, unfortunately they ended production last year.

    • @CadgerChristmasLightShow
      @CadgerChristmasLightShow Год назад +1

      At my landscaping job, the truck I drive is a 2003 f350 with the triton v10. It is SO much nicer to drive than the newer late 2000s v8 f250's that we also use. Those v8 trucks barely feel capable to pull 5-10 thousand pounds. They are slow sluggish dogs to drive. The v10 truck has some real get up and go when you want it to, and you can't even feel if you're towing something, even with 150k miles on it.

  • @rciscon
    @rciscon Год назад +12

    Across the pond, here in America the dominant V10 was the SRT-10 Copperhead engine in the Dodge Viper.

  • @pppphillip
    @pppphillip Год назад +14

    V10s are great but since the Porsche 919 Hybrid existed I also love the sound of this V4. And if this is one of the solutions cars are efficient, reliable and sounding great, I'm definitely here for it

    • @Indskret
      @Indskret Год назад +1

      Ducati and Honda V4's sound awesome as well.

    • @rhamlet5290
      @rhamlet5290 Год назад

      There is no such thing as an efficient ICEV

  • @quantin2500
    @quantin2500 Год назад +21

    V10 Forever in my heart

  • @eugenendungu4062
    @eugenendungu4062 Год назад +11

    V10's were always a special type of engine because it was just soo rare its a shame they are dead

  • @LiamNI
    @LiamNI Год назад +13

    The best, according to most manufacturers (for power vs cost), is a 500ml piston (almost square), hence the trend for 2 litre 4 cylinder.

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 Год назад +1

      Racing doesn't really care about power vs cost. They care about power predominantly with size and weight also being a consideration.
      Big inline 4s have balance issues with high rpms. Bikes can do it thanks to being around 1 liter or less but you're going to have a hard time pushing a 3 liter inline 4 to 20k the way the V10s and V12s of F1 did. Even V8s couldn't quite do it. When they went to the V8 spec teams had to back off to 18-19k max rpm due to some bad harmonics over that. For big displacement and big power, it's hard to beat a V12 unless you're talking 14 or more cylinder multi-row radial.

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 Год назад +1

      As well as 3-liter 6-cylinder engines and 4-liter DOHC V8s. 😁

    • @BenLMitchell
      @BenLMitchell Год назад +1

      Interesting, maybe that's why I absolutely adore my 2.5L, 5 cylinder diesel. It's smooth, power delivery is nice and linear and plentiful when on boost and more torque than you can shake a stick at.

  • @derosiflo6524
    @derosiflo6524 Год назад +20

    Wasn't a common engine to begin with. with the i5/vr6 type of engines I'd reckon it was the least used (not counting W16's bc only bugatti has it)

    • @Pugjamin
      @Pugjamin Год назад +6

      W8 was probably even more rare.

  • @bogdanolariu2651
    @bogdanolariu2651 Год назад +8

    V10 and v12 naturally aspirated are the best sounding cars ever made!

  • @SabotsLibres
    @SabotsLibres Год назад +8

    The Dodge Viper was the first but it was not F1 that influenced the engine choice, it was more the availability of a V10 truck engine that could be tuned up. Don't forget, even when the Viper was launched, the average V8 was pushing almost as much power stateside and appreciably more this side of the pond.

    • @Welcometofacsistube
      @Welcometofacsistube Год назад +2

      Ummm ya the viper engine was a bit more than a "tuned up: version the truck variant.

  • @BasicTravel1
    @BasicTravel1 Год назад +2

    Content about V10 without even mention the Mazda V10 project. I guess we can totally forget that, that will ever happen. What a shame.

  • @__Ben
    @__Ben Год назад +11

    With regards to fuel consumption figures on modern F1 cars, they are only allowed to consume somewhere around 100-110kg (couldn't find the exact number) of fuel throughout a race which should give you a rough idea of consumption.

    • @russotusso1695
      @russotusso1695 Год назад +12

      Basically around 35L/100KM, for a race car making over 900hp, with drag coefficient of a brick depending on aero setup, and going flat out, that's incredible.

    • @cameraprepper7938
      @cameraprepper7938 Год назад +3

      100kg/hour en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One_engines#Combustion,_construction,_operation,_power,_fuel_and_lubrication

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 Год назад

      I guess every car would run out of fuel with just 100kgs, they're really not gonna go a full race distance with this

    • @afoxwithahat7846
      @afoxwithahat7846 Год назад +1

      @@russotusso1695 mate, they don't go flat out, and they don't make 900hp.

    • @arranchace1306
      @arranchace1306 Год назад +3

      @@afoxwithahat7846 2022 F1 cars have around 750 BhP without the use of the Hybrid electric motor system, what adds a other 150Bhp, giving them a total of 950BHP, accourding to some sources, MB, RB, Ferrari can even reach little over 1000BhP with assist of the Hybrid system.
      On Monza, the track they drive the most full throttle (70% of the lap) fuel they drive the race with 105kilo fuel (110max) over 360Km race lenght, so do your math.
      The biggest feat of these engines are their fuel efficientie what lies around 50% to have some reverence, normal cars are around 20 to 25%
      And this all from a V6 1.5l engine, my car has that that regard a bigger engine and much more displacement, but nowhere near those numbers in preformance and efficiency

  • @1991julez
    @1991julez Год назад +7

    Even amongst all the F1 that carera GT stands out for me. Heroic engine

    • @nightdriver7216
      @nightdriver7216 Год назад

      Most of that is exhaust. When people put straight pipes on it, they ruin the sound.

  • @kyleholloway3470
    @kyleholloway3470 Год назад +2

    I literally couldn't give a toss about the "greeness" of modern F1 cars. They are not a patch on the V10 era cars.

  • @Worldsupercars
    @Worldsupercars Год назад

    Fascinating, and great video, cheers guys !

  • @hensh911
    @hensh911 Год назад +5

    Great video! It's definitely an ambition to own a V10 engined car before it's too late. As the LFA and Carrera GT will likely stay out of reach the R8 will do nicely!

  • @Speedy_dew
    @Speedy_dew Год назад

    These are great info snippets with some DriveTribe finese, I'm really enjoying the content and banter

  • @C.I...
    @C.I... Год назад +8

    This better be an update on the V10 MX5

  • @KingDeadMan
    @KingDeadMan Год назад +7

    10:35 It's not just the engine, it's also the tech that goes into it that makes the car drive. Drag racing, Formula Drift, engine swap madmen & the car companies themselves proves it. Engines like the Viper, 2JZ, RB30 series & LS series can stand the test of time, because a car is more than just the block that runs it.

    • @blocksource4192
      @blocksource4192 10 месяцев назад

      b58/s58 exists… 2jz is outdated

  • @volvos70t51
    @volvos70t51 Год назад +1

    Very cool video!, thanks!👍

  • @rubencaceiro3776
    @rubencaceiro3776 Год назад +4

    Simply the best layout of all with the Lexus LFA as the king for a road car, so lovely

  • @anvilsvs
    @anvilsvs Год назад +2

    One quick simple answer. Fuel consumption. The most fuel efficient engine for any power output is one cylinder. More cylinders are required to tame vibration and peak torque impulse which destroys transmissions. Thus you see more cylinders required as power output increases. For the power levels required in cars 8 cylinders are enough to tame the noise, vibration and harshness at the highest power levels needed.

    • @straightpipediesel
      @straightpipediesel Год назад +4

      Less cylinders are better for thermodynamic efficiency, however you run into problems in a gasoline engine ensuring that the air-fuel mixture is uniform throughout the cylinder, and ignites uniformly, particularly before gasoline direct injection was developed. This problem is less critical for diesels, which are stratified charge engines and don't need a spark plug. That's why the largest diesel engines, in trucks, are inline 6s. The largest road gas engines only approach 1 liter/cylinder, whereas a Cummins X15 is 2.5 l/cylinder.

  • @ralph.aguinaldomd
    @ralph.aguinaldomd Год назад +2

    V12s have perfect balance. V8s are much simpler to make. The V10 sound is my favorite though.

  • @monsieurcommissaire1628
    @monsieurcommissaire1628 Год назад +2

    I've been trying for years to come up with the right adjective(s) for the unique sounds a V10 makes at lower rpms. The high-pitched scream of a 3000cc F1 engine at 18,000rpm or thereabouts is iconic indeed, but I've noticed that most V10s make some wonderful noises at much lower revs that I can only describe as positively lewd. I hope the V10 has a future, but I pray that, if so, they won't all be muzzled by the ubiquitous turbochargers manufacturers are so enamored of these days.

  • @bendipranav6089
    @bendipranav6089 Год назад

    I have actually been looking forward to someone making this video……. THANK YOU.

  • @djp3637
    @djp3637 Год назад +1

    Alot of the sound difference in F1 is from the RPM reductions. The V10 and V8 were 18-21,000 RPM screamers while the current engines are down closer to 12,000 RPM.
    If you listen to the old V10 or V8 at around 12,000 RPM they sound completely different.

  • @STAG162
    @STAG162 Год назад +2

    unfortunately (in my rather biased Toyota mind, at least), the LFA's 1LR V10 engine is the only offering to even hold a candle to the utterly spine-tingling noises of F1 cars from back then. from the 'zip' of idle-to-redline (0.6sec) to the monumental *howling* of it churning out the ponies on a motorway. kudos to the forebears of the V10 tech and for making it available though.

  • @TheTechGameish
    @TheTechGameish Год назад +4

    What happened to the VR10 mx5 you was building ?

  • @MrRandomcommentguy
    @MrRandomcommentguy Год назад +2

    To me, the V10 always felt the Mike Tyson of car engines

  • @satyaprakashprajapati9008
    @satyaprakashprajapati9008 Год назад

    Great work

  • @54mgtf22
    @54mgtf22 Год назад

    Love your work 👍

  • @gerryjamesedwards1227
    @gerryjamesedwards1227 Год назад

    I love that you had a clip from 19Bozzy92, I've been subbed to him for years now.

  • @nathandufton3854
    @nathandufton3854 Год назад +1

    Whatever happened to that v10 miata swap? I remember seeing a video about starting the project, but I don't think I've seen any follow up.

  • @JohnFromAccounting
    @JohnFromAccounting Год назад +6

    I live in Melbourne, and all throughout the early 2000s, I would hear the screaming V10 engines from my house whenever the F1 came to town. Phenomenal sound.

  • @garykee1
    @garykee1 Год назад +5

    i was in Monaco once and was able to see the Grand Prix..the deafening sound of the F1 cars driving under the bridge was outstanding especially with the acoustics of the sound echoing off the concrete wall..bring back the V10! cheers.

  • @gwwick36
    @gwwick36 Год назад

    Great video, thanks for the v10 notes

  • @timothywachowicz8308
    @timothywachowicz8308 Год назад +2

    Top Drawer Mike! What about the Connaught V10 & Your Miata build? There's a place for that small displacement high revving jewel of a motor in the industry somewhere!

  • @dallonperry3639
    @dallonperry3639 Год назад +4

    One of the first vehicles I drove was a V10! a 95 Dodge 2500 with an 8.0 Magnum V10

  • @geuros
    @geuros Год назад +1

    I think it is not just about the engine. Aero, gearboxes, everything came a long way since 2005 let's say. Bear in mind that yes, small turbo can have the same power, but to be as fast you will need to floor it all the time, keep it in the boost range, and essentially each cylinder gets much more stressed. If you drive slow with a big engine it will have lower fuel consumption than a Prius if you drive it flat out.

  • @Tjescoo
    @Tjescoo Год назад +4

    Hmm I do enjoy the current F1 sound. It's refined and sounds efficient. I'd also rather not hear my engine much than having it boosted by speakers...

    • @JohnFromAccounting
      @JohnFromAccounting Год назад +2

      They sound like tractors. It's not a nice sound.

    • @Tjescoo
      @Tjescoo Год назад

      @@JohnFromAccounting I classified it as a low-pitched RC car that runs on ethanol XD Also, I must admit that a few more rpm will not harm the sound of these engines...

  • @myface694
    @myface694 Год назад +1

    Germany’s synthetic fuel industry, 1927-1945, you did mention synthetic fuels after all.

  • @camhyde9701
    @camhyde9701 Год назад

    great topic!

  • @jrbship
    @jrbship Год назад

    The high-pitched roaring whine of those V10s really were something else

  • @Flaretree
    @Flaretree Год назад +1

    Great video

  • @Big__Thicc
    @Big__Thicc Год назад +1

    The fact that we are slowly but surely losing IC engines and that soon roads will be filled with electric garbage without a soul makes me tear up...

  • @glynprice3815
    @glynprice3815 Год назад +2

    70's kid here. Whatever V it is make sure its got the power

  • @sudmuck
    @sudmuck Год назад

    Here in the USA between the 90s & 00s we also got factory V10 pickup trucks, the Dodge Ram & Ford F-series Super Duty.

  • @exotic9514
    @exotic9514 Год назад +2

    I'll just hope for synthetic carbon neutral fuels to power V10 engines in the future if the V10 will never come back.

    • @playgt326
      @playgt326 Год назад

      And that they gets more efficient. 🙏🏻

  • @joonassummanen6130
    @joonassummanen6130 Год назад +3

    I miss the V10 era in F1. For me that iconic sound defines F1. Save the V10 and i wish FIA could somehow bring that distinctive and fantastic sound back to F1.

  • @thebigboy-fr9bg
    @thebigboy-fr9bg Год назад +1

    Its such a shame. The V10 is my favorite engine configuration, and I'm sad to see it so underutilized these days. I really hope that Lamborghini will continue to keep the V10 alive.

  • @user-sv4rp3yd4x
    @user-sv4rp3yd4x Год назад +2

    That v10 is close to hitting 100k miles on the clock

  • @MrPuddles3331
    @MrPuddles3331 Год назад +3

    I wonder if, once synthetic fuels take hold the car manufacturers would want to implement the super efficient designs of the current V6 engines in to a V10/V12

    • @johannesgutsmiedl366
      @johannesgutsmiedl366 Год назад

      I very much doubt synthetic fuels will ever take hold for road cars, battery electric is just way more energy efficient... it may make sense for aviation and race/hypercars but that's about it, even hydrogen fuel cell is more reasonable. And even then, I'm pretty sure that at the current F1 displacement regs teams would love to build 4 or even 3 cylinder engines, 6 cylinders is really too much for 1.6 l.

    • @MrPuddles3331
      @MrPuddles3331 Год назад +2

      @@johannesgutsmiedl366 I think it's more efficient to use what we already have. It takes 100,000 miles for an EV to pay back it's carbon footprint where as swapping to synthetic fuels is instant. I think there will be a lot of manufacturers not wanting to retool if they can avoid it.

    • @johannesgutsmiedl366
      @johannesgutsmiedl366 Год назад

      @@MrPuddles3331 by all means drive your fossile fuel car until it breaks down, but the replacement shouldn't be another fossile fuel car that uses incredibly ineffecient synthetic fuel when you can just go battery electric. It's also not an instant switch, production capabilities for synthetic fuels need to be built up first and they are useless if they aren't fed by renewable energy just like battery electric, you just need a LOT more renewable energy due to the overall low efficiency of the system. These days there are only a few car manufacturers still trying to make synthetic or hydrogen fuel happen, mostly the industry has accepted that battery electric is the future at least for personal vehicles (trucks are a different question).

    • @blocksource4192
      @blocksource4192 10 месяцев назад

      @@johannesgutsmiedl366I doubt battery electric is the future, rather I believe once the hype will finally be over for electric hydrogen will take over.
      Think about it, why would people NOT want to drive 500+ miles on one fill up with fillups taking 1-2min and with emissions like battery electric and with speeds like battery electric (since hydrogen still uses electricity to power the car) and with the knowledge we wont break our power grid.
      Its literally the best of a gas engine mixed with the best of an electric engine. All we need is the same investment we had in electric to be put into making the production of hydrogen cheap and efficient (some are produced by gas and not renewable resources such as electrcity) and available to the general market.

  •  Год назад

    This was very interesting

  • @elmurcis1
    @elmurcis1 Год назад +1

    Audi Quattro with I5 engine is probably cheapest way to own "half of V10" and have ton of fun (specially in winter on snowy roads)

    • @blocksource4192
      @blocksource4192 10 месяцев назад

      TT rs is discontinued 😢😢😢😢 Audi rs3 is the only way now

  • @lenz2446
    @lenz2446 Год назад

    Bless you for that outro!

  • @carlgeorgtsigakis498
    @carlgeorgtsigakis498 Год назад

    I like how you pointed out Donkey before the princess... hehehehe

  • @SodiumWage
    @SodiumWage Год назад +1

    The only thing that sounds better than the old rally car 5 cylinders is when you weld two of 'em together and stick the whole thing in an F1 car.

  • @PrinceAlhorian
    @PrinceAlhorian Год назад +1

    Talking about V10s, what ever happened to that V10 Miata you guys were doing. We never got to see the car drive.

  • @ashwinganeshan9697
    @ashwinganeshan9697 Год назад +3

    What happened to the V10 miata?

  • @tuningemporium
    @tuningemporium Год назад +1

    brilliant sound :)

  • @Joe-qj7oh
    @Joe-qj7oh Год назад

    Super Cool, story, well presented.

  • @clausmadsen6754
    @clausmadsen6754 Год назад +1

    Isn’t it necessary to mention the Audi I5 engine from 1976? To me, this was unheard of at the time. A 5 cylinder engine made no sense to me back then. But silky smooth and sounded wicked

  • @lachlanparker570
    @lachlanparker570 Год назад +1

    I've wondered about twin-turbo 1.3L V10s (with an extreme under-square for combustion efficiency) meeting in the middle.

  • @lucas_sin_s
    @lucas_sin_s Год назад +1

    10:35 mclaren doing this is not surprising at all to me tbh
    The v8 they put on basically every car is based on an engine prototype nissan built in the late 80's / early 90's for their lemans' cars

  • @Mototune16
    @Mototune16 Год назад +1

    The sound of v10 engines make me cry; specially ferrari f2004

  • @user-cn7eq8ix4s
    @user-cn7eq8ix4s Год назад +1

    You can say whatever you want but once you drive that S85 V10 in S6 mode... I don't even know how to explain the combination of that poetry and aggression at the same time 🙌

    • @blocksource4192
      @blocksource4192 10 месяцев назад

      m6 manual v10… dream car right there

  • @roachdoggjr45
    @roachdoggjr45 Год назад

    Much Respect to the people at drivetribe

  • @austinsutton5728
    @austinsutton5728 Год назад

    My truck is a dodge 2500 with a V10. I decided to look this up because it dawned on me that besides my dodge, I've never seen anyone else with a V10, interesting video

  • @ZeeBri
    @ZeeBri Год назад +1

    What happened to the V10 in the MX5 thing?

  • @bendipranav6089
    @bendipranav6089 4 месяца назад

    Just the video i have been looking for😮

  • @Hugo_WP
    @Hugo_WP Год назад +1

    Completely loved my R8 V10 with Capristo exhaust 🔥

  • @Map71Vette
    @Map71Vette Год назад +1

    It's debatable whether modern cars are really more fuel efficient in my eyes, though it all depends on how you are grading efficiency. Ultimately speaking, if you are making X amount of power, you are burning a minimum of Y amount of fuel just based on energy content of the fuel alone. Yes, some engines are better at doing that than others, but in the modern world, even in the past decade or two, I don't think that efficiency number has changed a crazy amount. In fact, if you actually push a modern turbo engine you are probably going to be less efficient than pushing the same power out of an NA engine. The main reason being that boosted engines are usually run even richer at full power to have a better safety net. A max power NA setup might run in the high 12s or low 13s for air fuel ratio, but boosted setups are usually more like low 12s or even 11s for super high power stuff. So basically, if you are actually using the turbo in your car, you might not really be that much more efficient than an engine without one. A lot of the mpg gains in recent history can be attributed to aero and other driveline efficiencies.

  • @arthurdent8022
    @arthurdent8022 Год назад +1

    Why is Lucy Brown gone from Drivetribe?

  • @oliverholt1729
    @oliverholt1729 Год назад

    Where is the v10 mx5 love to get a up date on this pls 😊

  • @greensoul8121
    @greensoul8121 Год назад

    Out of all the sponsors y’all have done, this is one I might actually buy some stuff from. Thanks for not doing raid shadow legends 😅

  • @MNGLD-do2kc
    @MNGLD-do2kc Год назад

    V10s will forever be my favorite engine layout. No other engine layout can match the sound and RPM.

  • @youquagmire
    @youquagmire Год назад

    The play out track wasn't long enough... So sad, I miss those sounds. Especially from F1.

  • @Jaymza30
    @Jaymza30 Год назад

    Mike!!!...waiting for the V10 Miata/MX5 dude!!! Where’s it at? Time for an update mate 🍺😎🤘

  • @magnusshawn4698
    @magnusshawn4698 Год назад

    What ever happened to your small displacement V10 project car?

  • @Vwall007ST
    @Vwall007ST Год назад

    Hé Mike or someone else who knows. What brand and model jeans are you wearing?

  • @latrinedveen
    @latrinedveen Год назад

    I'm enjoying watching Mike mature as a motor journalist. I guess you could say it's growing on me, the cause being a special fizz he seemed to have picked up from the trio.

  • @Skeeter69420
    @Skeeter69420 Год назад +1

    Loved my tuned Volvo 5cyl!! Half of the cylinders tho!

  • @georgesandiford1141
    @georgesandiford1141 Год назад +1

    Whats happened to the v10 mx5?!

  • @michaelking6596
    @michaelking6596 Год назад +2

    @mike .. Actually McLaren Honda switched away from their dominant v10 of 1989/90 to a v12 for 1991 to counter the Renault v10.

    • @TheLeewi98
      @TheLeewi98 Год назад +1

      And eventually it turned out to be the wrong decision. Honda was making better power than the Renault V10, but the V12 was heavy, harder to package and used more fuel. But it didn’t really matter since Honda left after 92.

    • @michaelking6596
      @michaelking6596 Год назад

      @@TheLeewi98 while the motor was heavier and a little larger... i think the 1991/92 active suspension and newey aero had a lot to do with the Williams speed.. not just the motor..

    • @TheLeewi98
      @TheLeewi98 Год назад

      @@michaelking6596 Yes ofcorse Williams overtook Mclaren in other areas, but the Honda engine was a smaller scale problem as well. Williams was far ahead technically.

  • @ayce2553
    @ayce2553 Год назад +2

    Once the V12 is squeezed out
    I think the V10 will return as the top dog
    But that’s a long way out