Ari Aster | Hereditary | Film Comment Talk
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2018
- For our latest Film Comment Free Talk, we head into the belly of the beast: Ari Aster’s terrific upcoming twist on the horror genre, Hereditary. If at times Hereditary feels more like an askew domestic melodrama than a horror movie, that’s not accidental: Aster’s new film is one of the most effective examples of the genre in recent years, terrifying in its refusal to shy away from difficult emotions. The filmmaker, a cinephile who counts Mike Leigh as one of his influences, sat down with Film Society Editorial Director and Film Comment columnist Michael Koresky to discuss how exactly he mixes the mysteries and traumas of dysfunctional families with his exquisitely controlled and cathartic filmmaking. A talent (and a film) not to be missed this summer!
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I can't get over how this guy made two of the most emotionally scarring movies of the last five years but looks like the barista at your local Starbucks.
With that adorable stutter
I strongly disagree with the "barista" part.
Try church camp counselor
reddit comments , its what we are now
Make that 3 now!
I’ve only seen Hereditary, Midsommar, Beau is Afraid, and Strange Thing about the Johnsons, but my conclusion is that Ari Aster’s goal is to create scenarios where it would literally be better to be dead than still in that scenario. Each film has its own tone and way of getting to that point, but let’s just say he’s VERY into family-based trauma.
God he’s so right though, the pacing of Hereditary is so integral to the movie. Would have loved to see the 3hr footage anyway
Agreed. Love the avatar. All hail the may queen!
I agree also when he talked that, the slow built up is a horror!
Ari Aster talking about films is one of the most interesting things ever tbh
I completely agree!
Why would you go see a film commentary about a movie you haven't seen yet
megan byrne Because they didn’t only discuss the movie, and when they did they did it in a spoiler-free way.
Isak Dahl Short Films ehh still would ruin it for me.
yeah, it’s the worst. amazing opportunity to have an hour conversation with the director but we have to cater to the people that didn’t care enough to see the movie?
Very weird
Good question, because it seems ridiculous. It probably has a certain recent then. Perhaps it was a matter of scheduling?
Adding him to my list of favorite directors.
Ari Aster gets major points for talking about "Return to Oz". Hereditary was a genuinely intriguing, impressive, original and finely constructed work. Look forward to more from him.
"The Wiz" is scary as all hell.
Ari Aster is a genius. I'm not even that much of a movie fan, but I find myself hanging on his every word and wanting to watch all the films he references. I think it takes great strength and courage to face the horrific parts of life. In that way, it's very life-affirming to watch a horror film, because it's like you're accepting a dare to look and not flinch.
The corpses and Gore look so real and life-like in his movies
What I love about that dinner scene is Annie's complaint of no one taking any responsibility applying to her directly. She speaks about her life and history as if it belongs to someone else. She is always distanced, even in her approach to miniatures.
The rapport between these two is unreal.
The director of two of the most brilliantly devastating horror movies I've ever seen being such an awkward nerd is just perfect.
Wow! The Baby of Macon’s play on pageantry, theatre, and audience complicity in watching/participating in the horror is also present in Midsommar. I had no idea that it was not available in the USA. In have also watched those Iconic films discussed, plus I recommend Blue Velvet, and The Innocents (adaptation of The Turn Of The Screw).
Ari Aster is such a refreshing addition to the horror genre.
40:00 with "Sweden's history" cough cough midsommar
Haven't seen that one yet.
LordMalice6d9 It’s good I recommend it if you’re depraved.
I’m pretty sure he wasn’t referring to midsommar when he said that. It does take place there tho
There aren’t many human dramas I can only stomach once. In fact, I think there’s only one and that’s his Johnson’s short. Just thinking about it makes my stomach turn. This man is a genius.
I find that almost too comedic it’s a great idea and disturbing but I find some weird comedy element in it I don’t know why ?? Maybe I find it ridiculous even tho I understand completely he’s thinking behind it I can’t seem to take it seriously
Return to OZ is so insanely disturbing, if you saw it as a child this movie stays with you its so freaky!
I've never seen it. Is it worth watching?
50:13 - There you go! As a black man, I didn’t get the anger, myself. Like Aster says, he gave interesting parts to black actors. I’m thankful for that.
I'm a big time horror fan and Hereditary is my 3rd favorite horror film after The Thing and The Shining.
Wow, so interesting to hear about Aster's childhood shared cinema experiences with his mother, to which I can relate incredibly hard! Truly, I was exposed to the in-depth classics of cinema from a very early age by my late mother, including silent b&w films, Dr. Kaligari, all that jazz, and on the regular basis, too! (I guess the second blessing was an immortal "Museum of Cinema" in our homecity). My all-time favorite childhood film was Kurosawa's "Kagemusha" when I was 10! (And I saw it at least a dozen times on a large screen).
I feel awkward becuz i can hear the people in the room who haven’t watched the movie
We finally get to see a genius work a horror film. Ari is up there with Kubrick.. Argento..Blatty.. Hooper.. my all time favorites
Finally someone recognizes Dario Argento!
American God of Horror has spoken.
Absolute genius.
The music on this film which sets up a lot of the suspense, owes a lot to The Shining by its way of pacing and setting up the scenes.
All A24 horror film use music the same way that "The Shining" did. I couldn't have bigger praise for these movies.
Which takes a lot from Eraserhead.
Hi Ari, big supporter of your horroresque cinematic endeavors.
This is so weird...I kept getting a door closing today without any acknowledgement and it was making me so disconnected from the person. Just so creepy when I heard him say that was what was cut out 😂
ari aster is so cute to me and i'm not sure what it is. like I could marry him tomorrow.
he will devour u
Cos hes succsessful and rich and famous.
ME TOO. Except I know what it is for me. His mind, his abilities, his talent and ambition, his soothing voice, his personality, his modesty, his kindness, his sense of humor, his eyes, his smile…Yeah I’ve got a crush on him (respectfully) and I love it!!!
He’s adorable
la película es muy buena . sin desconocer la producción y los que hacen la película , para mi quien realmente le pone mucha relevancia a la producción y la hace muy impresionante es nuestra hermosa y querida actriz Toni Collette , ya que es una excelente actriz. felicitaciones a todos...!!!
Are the deleted scenes available anywhere?
Fantastic editing!
9:00
3:31
16:18
mike
18:32
29:50
40:22
Jor-Els Alexandria Been watching your hereditary reviews. I can tell it’s still with you huh? 😂 rightfully so of course
He's so thorough yet manages to be unpretentious - that's a hard balance to find.
9:55 my rental spots never allowed us to touch the tapes, I wish I had this option lol
Carrie catharsis comment seems so on point after watching Midsommar.
A masterpiece
When the wonderful Walter Murch is credited as a sound designer 8:39 :(
If you’ve ever seen an ari aster interview you know he’s gonna mention Carrie
Wish the volume level was higher...can barely hear this at times; and it get worse as it goes on.
What a way to begin an interview lol
Here from Midsommar movie discussion :)
Really good movie. You should check out "Witching and bitching" its Spanish subtitles but it's really good. So I get it's Paimon at the end but why do they call him Charlie? Saying they got her a better body? Then the head is on a pike that they're worshiping?
mulholland drive shout out!!!!
Love that one
I wonder if ari aster could pull off a horror style war movie.
Damn, y’all!
Come and See
Now that is something I would LOVE to see.
I wish there was a prequel to hereditary. How ellen becomes queen and how she tried to use her son as the vesael for pagan and how and why ellen's husband committed suicide. And then cut to ellen being pushed away from having any contact with peter the first born son of annie and when charlie is born cut to next scence where ellen is breast feeding her grandchild charlie cut scene zooming out of baby closeup sucking nipple as ellen slowly looks up to camera with an evil grin then black screen with director name.
That would be awesome.. I know he wrote a lot of backstory that didn’t even make it into the script.. however I don’t think he would ever do this, it’s more of a standalone piece
I LOVE this guy's work, and I will tell the world what a brilliant, genius filmmaker he is, but my God - he is one wormy, odd little creature.
I feel you have to be odd in some way to create horror
Seems extremely normal here... you can tell he is pretty shy and he tends to point out he gets tired of repeating himself and always imagines the people in the audience who hate everything he is saying and disliked his movies lol. I like how grounded, yet insecure he comes off. Its refreshing,
It’s just anxiety
That's one way to describe the man. Badge produced.
I love the Wiz!
Who is Michael Koresky reminding me of?
I love Aster's work, but I think he's wrong about George Romero. Both Martin and NOLD are aesthetically dynamic in my opinion.
Me encantas Ari! jaja
i'll never forget Ari Aster
What about now? Do you still remember him?
@@20000dino after Hereditary how can i not 👀
@@JiiWoon Well he's certainly not leaving your mind this year, since we're soon to be blessed with Beau is Afraid !
Forget about Denis Villeneuve, Chris Nolan .. this guy is the real deal, not some pseudo intellectual one-note visual style pretender. Ari's movies really makes me carry that mood like a dark cloud over my head long after the movie is over, it feels like an amped up version of real life, he makes the kind of heavy lifting horror no one makes anymore (The Exorcist) ... just stop the James Wan factory churn outs already ..
... more Ari please
You can like Ari Aster without shitting on legendary directors lol
@@chiefinasmith
Not everyone regard Villeneuve and Nolan, .. and Wan as legendary ....... thankfully.
I will shit on anyone I think is overrated ... its fair game, no cows are too sacred, its just make believe movies dear, you're regarding "great directors" as some kind of God, they're not ... my favourite directors (like Ari Aster himself) have detractors and thats fair too ...
Why would someone go to this if you haven’t seen the movie
In one word, Ari Aster is brilliant.
haha he hates Return to Oz, that movie traumatizes me as a kid!
Midsommar is way better!
think Michael Jackson's stuffed, bloated scarecrow in The Wiz might have inspired Midsommar
Oh he is telling as about his first short film the ...Johnsons. Hold up. Did he just reveal the draw-droppage end of it as well? WTF, Drector?!
I love nerds.
Maybe make sure your audience has actually SEEN the film of your guest.
I think it’s the audience that needs to make sure they see the film they’re there to hear about
He's got the posture of creepy old vato, but what a nice talented young dude.
What's artifice?
Michael adams The use of things that are artificial.
Simulacrum-
In its earliest English uses, simulacrum named something that provided an image or representation (as, for instance, a portrait, marble statue, or wax figure representing a person). Perhaps because a simulacrum, no matter how skillfully done, is not the real thing, the word gained an extended sense emphasizing the superficiality or insubstantiality of a thing.
my god I love Ari and he may be the most genius up-and-coming director but fucking hell this interview audio is mixed like ASS. Lincoln Center, out of the bottom of my heart I want to give you better services and will mix you interview audio just out of interest in serving public art. please.
Sucks the audio is so bad
I think "HEREDITARY" is nothing but 3:17m short of a master-piece ! Why 3:17 minutes, you ask ? That's the lenght of "CLOUDS" as sung by Judy Collins, that closes this otherwise perfect movie - much of which (or witch) rests on the very competent shoulders of Toni Collette ; over and over in my head (which I haven't lost yet, no thanks to the movie), I've tried to make sense of the insertion of that otherwise beautiful song at the very end of that beautifully-dreadful movie... but to no avail ; let's say it's what the director wanted and that's that ! But still, I think he should've listened to Joni Mitchell's "CLOUDS" before making his final choice ; Judy Collins' 1967 cover sounds muffled and dusty, while Mitchell's (original) version, re-released in 1969 on REPRISE records, sounds crisp and truly stereo, as if recorded recently ; now there are songs on that LP that might, I say might, have made more sense for the movie's awkward ending ; for instance "THE FIDDLE AND THE DRUM" ; Mitchell's alluring voice has even chilling "over-tones", as they say, in the business ; but it is the way she plucks at the guitar that draws the most attention ; even the album's cover, a Joni Mitchell self-portrait (yes, she also paints), is premonitious : she somehow looks like Toni Collette... and get this : Joni and Toni (LOL) Is it too late to re-release the movie with Joni's song dubbed on ? Oh, but ask Joni's permission first... I've read she wasn't too keen about Collins' rendition (LOL) !
The Aryan papers
Jesus, this man has tiny hands.
My favorite horror movie of all time. If only Ari wasn’t THE WORST public speaker in the history of talking, including just holding a conversation, i would enjoy hearing info from him so much!
I find the avoidance of the key element of the film being in the occult ODD. the family dynamic is the result of the dark art and cult manipulations. why is this not being addressed????
I think it's because the film is based around the manipulations of Ellen and the cult and that would be a bit of a spoiler. I've seen a lot of people who have seen the movie didn't really enjoy it as much as they thought they could have because before they watched it, they heard that it had cult business going on in it.
You are the first people to mention this i've seen. I always wonder the same... both hereditary and midsommar are about blood magic and life-stealing powers channeled through manipulation... nobody seems to adress it and it makes it way creepier when you compare the movies and the interviews.
“I made it in a different climate”, a more INCESTY climate?? What does that even mean? Lol How is the climate different now in regards to a film about a son sexually abusing his dad? I’m obsessed with this comment.
He's referring to climate change he wrote the movie in Mexico which is currently underwater due to adverse effects from methane released when cows fart
@@tonywords6713 😂
Take a shot every time he repeats a word 4 times in a row
He stutter genius
you know? you know? you know? you know? you know? you know? you know? you know?
HAHA good1
Shut shut shut shut up bro
@@mhd1442 He doesn't have a stutter. He proves this by speaking at length during most of the interview. What he has is an annoying habit of repeating the first word of a sentence as means of buying time to respond. It's a habit you can change.
Hereditary was heavily influenced by 'The Sixth Sense'.
I just watched it and besides the easter eggs didn't really see the Sixth Sense influence.
Thumbs down.
Fuck you
@@jajackboss woah there lmao relax
I'm pretty sure the creepy, smiling guy at the funeral was inspired by the creepy, smiling hearse-driver in Burnt Offerings. Midsommar in some ways reminds me of a less campy version of 2001 Maniacs.
I cannot explain the total lack of entertainment this person has produced after watching three movies .I do not understand how or why anyone would allow another one
“ Stately disturbing artifice “ 🤣 is there any end to creepy pretentious gay men ? And Oliver Twist ? Lmfao yeahhhhhh
I want my 2hrs back!!!! Eff this movie SUCKS!!!!!!
I don't know about your two hours (and seven minutes) but you might save some time by quitting complaining about this movie. Or you could shorten your comment to "this movie sux!" That would also save time.
@@floraposteschild4184 🖕🏿🖕🏿
@@MzMary801 Wahhhh. I saw a movie I didn't like so I'm gonna find videos about the director giving input about said movie that I don't like and tell everyone that I didn't like it. Grow up.
😂😂