I will be doing this project also. Had to buy a new Timemaster because my old one died and I didn't have time to rebuild the old one. Will be restoring the old one this Winter, so I have a backup. Thanks for the video.
The ruts this thing makes it pretty crazy. I don't know if it's because I have clay soil but the ruts are terrible. This thing almost needs pneumatic tires!
My Timemaster has the bigger engine. Just bought it for $800 with less than two seasons on it. It was as if they guy never used it. Power isn't an issue with deep grass as long as it is not wet. But what absolutely sucks is the small fuel tank. I have to refuel 3-4 times when cutting the lawn once.
You should upgrade your Blade brake clutch parts to the Turfmaster ones. Pretty much a bolt-in. Might need to switch one bolt for a longer one and add a nut & washers. Since then I have never had all the worn v-belt issues I used to have. My Kohler CV224 has run great for the past 3 years. With that filter my oil still looks clean at the end of the season! (Only mowing my property though!) I don't waste my money on the expensive Kohler filters & oil though....WIX, Oregon, Briggs all have compatible oil filters, and any good synthetic oil of proper viscosity (with a touch of added ZDDP, if desired) is all that is needed to keep that puppy happy.
From what I'm seeing online, the ferris msrp is $3800 if I'm not mistaken. Definitely looks like a solid machine, especially if it has reverse. I don't think I've ever seen one of those before.
The Ferris FW15 is BADASS. Only thing I’m not a super fan of is the things weight. But it’s literally an actual lawn mower with a walk behind hydro pulling it around so it’s not that bad. Better than the high dollar ass scag 30” I was gonna scoop. Ima flip my time waster one of the days and scoop a fw15 I think, but honestly I try and skip any type of push mowing in general tbh
Here’s the new blocker I put on both my Ferris 36” stander and now on my 52 also, love it compared to my old advanced chute ruclips.net/user/shortsGdmaX7fYLMI?si=Is_zxoWTzZ7A98XF
Damn son you gots some racing slick tires on that thing don’t ya lol. Nice upgrade tho, stock motors suck on the timemaster. I just motor swapped my mcclane reel mower with new predator hemi go cart engines from harbour freight and she’s nasty. Might be doing this to my time waster
Lol got some Mickey Thompsons on there to help keep traction with this awesome motor 😄. I was gonna buy new wheels but those things are stupid expensive. For around $100 bucks those motors are solid. Did a predator motor swap on my go kart back in the day.
@@TheMoreYouMOW gotta get that 60ft time down man I totally understand the Mickey option, good call. I’m more of a nitto triple Nickels type guy myself for the whole shot when I’m trying to bust em out the hole on my time waster. I’ve done wasted everyone on my street wit it already tho so not too many people trying me here lately I think the words out.
@@TheMoreYouMOW oh and yes yes I know the dang tires 🛞 for these mowers, the factory ones are stupid expensive, they act like they should cost what tires on a damn car would cost mane. One of my clients was tossing out his old HRX Honda mower that had a fresh set of mickeys on there, he gave me the mower for free, so I went online and found a set of clone factory tires for like 16 each instead of like 28 they wanted for the Honda tires
@slowb4lls1 I saw where someone cut up old bicycle tires and screwed them on. I don't think I can bring myself to do that even though I considered it a time or 2. I really don't notice it losing traction at all. I mean my yard is relatively flat, but I could see it being an issue if you mow on a hill. Gotta love Kansas 🤣
That I wouldn't know of since my timemaster never had electric start or a battery. I'm sure someone with more experience in that department will comment
I just did this on my 20200 Electric Start model, the Answer is NO. The Kohler CV224-3002 is pull start only and has no starter. In fact I pulled the key start, harness and the battery off of mine. I had never opened the battery compartment on mine and it was full of wet grass that was starting to corrode the deck so I am glad it is gone.
Do you have a part # on that Kholer CV224? I would like to call Small Engine Suppliers and order one of these for my Timemaster. Just want to make sure I'm ordering the right one. Thx!
This is from a previous comment: If I remember correctly the 3001 does NOT come with a gas tank whereas the 3002 DOES come with a gas tank. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I would go with the 3002
You can make anything fit if you really try 😉. I would say if you don't want to drill out your deck, you will need to measure the distance between the 3 tapped holes to mount the motor to the deck vs. the current bolt pattern of your current mower deck. People use this motor on the timemaster because it is a direct replacement with no deck modifications needed
@@TheMoreYouMOW Yes, but not if the motor has the wrong output shaft diameter. Learned that the hard way trying to put a Harbor Freight Predator engine on a John Deere reel mower.
If I remember correctly the 3001 does NOT come with a gas tank whereas the 3002 DOES come with a gas tank. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I would go with the 3002
@@leadnsteel1428 Toro uses a timed deck to make a more compact mower ,you get your blade overlap with them side by side. Staggering the blades does the same thing but makes the deck longer but has a less expensive drive system . The best cutting and bagging is the single blade 28 like a Ybravo but it makes for a longer mower than the Toro and takes more power to run versus the shorter blade like the Toro uses that let them use a smaller engine to make it lighter.
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I will be doing this project also. Had to buy a new Timemaster because my old one died and I didn't have time to rebuild the old one. Will be restoring the old one this Winter, so I have a backup. Thanks for the video.
Might put the Kohler on the new mower and put the new Briggs on the older mower. Good move?
I would put the Kohler on the old mower as long as everything else is fine. If you have a warranty on the new mower, swapping the motor may void it.
Now you can saw your mower is "Built not bought" lmfao 🤣😂 Great job on it, excited to see how it cuts with the extra 30+ CC's. Cheers!
Absolutely! I had to make it my own. It will be a brand new mower in no time lol 😆 😂
I have the commercial hdx. You’re going to like the new power. My only regret is the heavy deck ruts as you know.
The ruts this thing makes it pretty crazy. I don't know if it's because I have clay soil but the ruts are terrible. This thing almost needs pneumatic tires!
Nice I will be doing the same shortly, had to buy an b&s pro last year but really wanted this motor 😢
My Timemaster has the bigger engine. Just bought it for $800 with less than two seasons on it. It was as if they guy never used it. Power isn't an issue with deep grass as long as it is not wet. But what absolutely sucks is the small fuel tank. I have to refuel 3-4 times when cutting the lawn once.
Replace the fuel tank ?
You should upgrade your Blade brake clutch parts to the Turfmaster ones. Pretty much a bolt-in. Might need to switch one bolt for a longer one and add a nut & washers. Since then I have never had all the worn v-belt issues I used to have. My Kohler CV224 has run great for the past 3 years. With that filter my oil still looks clean at the end of the season! (Only mowing my property though!) I don't waste my money on the expensive Kohler filters & oil though....WIX, Oregon, Briggs all have compatible oil filters, and any good synthetic oil of proper viscosity (with a touch of added ZDDP, if desired) is all that is needed to keep that puppy happy.
Where did you buy the engine? Link please
www.smallenginesuppliers.com/shop/html/pages/products/kohler_vertical_engines1312.html
The Ferris FW15 needs a larger tank and a quick chute but for the same price it has reverse
From what I'm seeing online, the ferris msrp is $3800 if I'm not mistaken. Definitely looks like a solid machine, especially if it has reverse. I don't think I've ever seen one of those before.
The Ferris FW15 is BADASS. Only thing I’m not a super fan of is the things weight. But it’s literally an actual lawn mower with a walk behind hydro pulling it around so it’s not that bad. Better than the high dollar ass scag 30” I was gonna scoop. Ima flip my time waster one of the days and scoop a fw15 I think, but honestly I try and skip any type of push mowing in general tbh
Here’s the new blocker I put on both my Ferris 36” stander and now on my 52 also, love it compared to my old advanced chute
ruclips.net/user/shortsGdmaX7fYLMI?si=Is_zxoWTzZ7A98XF
Same price? 😂
Damn son you gots some racing slick tires on that thing don’t ya lol. Nice upgrade tho, stock motors suck on the timemaster. I just motor swapped my mcclane reel mower with new predator hemi go cart engines from harbour freight and she’s nasty. Might be doing this to my time waster
Lol got some Mickey Thompsons on there to help keep traction with this awesome motor 😄. I was gonna buy new wheels but those things are stupid expensive. For around $100 bucks those motors are solid. Did a predator motor swap on my go kart back in the day.
@@TheMoreYouMOW gotta get that 60ft time down man I totally understand the Mickey option, good call. I’m more of a nitto triple Nickels type guy myself for the whole shot when I’m trying to bust em out the hole on my time waster. I’ve done wasted everyone on my street wit it already tho so not too many people trying me here lately I think the words out.
@@TheMoreYouMOW oh and yes yes I know the dang tires 🛞 for these mowers, the factory ones are stupid expensive, they act like they should cost what tires on a damn car would cost mane. One of my clients was tossing out his old HRX Honda mower that had a fresh set of mickeys on there, he gave me the mower for free, so I went online and found a set of clone factory tires for like 16 each instead of like 28 they wanted for the Honda tires
@slowb4lls1 🤣🤣🤣 man I'm DYING HERE lmao.
@slowb4lls1 I saw where someone cut up old bicycle tires and screwed them on. I don't think I can bring myself to do that even though I considered it a time or 2. I really don't notice it losing traction at all. I mean my yard is relatively flat, but I could see it being an issue if you mow on a hill. Gotta love Kansas 🤣
Did you ever rewire the kill switch?
No, I just use the yellow handle that comes on the motor. I just have to old kill switch wire zip tied to the handle
@@TheMoreYouMOW I just installed my Kohler today. Hardest part was finding the Kohler oil. Thanks for the heads up on tractor supply. 😂
You'll enjoy the upgrade. Finding the oil was a PITA for sure!
Did you paint the deck or is that a custom order?
I painted the deck. It was pretty rough originally
@@TheMoreYouMOW oh looks sick haha I just bought a brand new machine and I wish it came in black. Nice move man
@listentofin I almost went black but I went with the grey. Black would look great too!
@@listentofin also, if you want to see the painting process, I made a video showing how I did it. 2 videos before this one
Hey nice tutorial
Does the new Kohler come with charging stator so you can hook up to the battery ??
That I wouldn't know of since my timemaster never had electric start or a battery. I'm sure someone with more experience in that department will comment
I just did this on my 20200 Electric Start model, the Answer is NO. The Kohler CV224-3002 is pull start only and has no starter. In fact I pulled the key start, harness and the battery off of mine. I had never opened the battery compartment on mine and it was full of wet grass that was starting to corrode the deck so I am glad it is gone.
Do you have a part # on that Kholer CV224? I would like to call Small Engine Suppliers and order one of these for my Timemaster. Just want to make sure I'm ordering the right one. Thx!
This is from a previous comment:
If I remember correctly the 3001 does NOT come with a gas tank whereas the 3002 DOES come with a gas tank. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I would go with the 3002
@@TheMoreYouMOW Thanks so much for your info and very fast reply!
@stevenclark5450 no problem! Also, you're welcome!
How long is the run time?
I can roughly double cut 1/4 an acre on one tank of gas.
@@TheMoreYouMOW thank you
This is the knock on the Timemaster with the factory Briggs 223. Small fuel tank.
Can I put that engine on any lawn mower deck ?
You can make anything fit if you really try 😉. I would say if you don't want to drill out your deck, you will need to measure the distance between the 3 tapped holes to mount the motor to the deck vs. the current bolt pattern of your current mower deck. People use this motor on the timemaster because it is a direct replacement with no deck modifications needed
@@TheMoreYouMOW okay I have a old snapper push mower . Probably 2005 snapper. I was just wondering if I can put any engine on it man
@@TheMoreYouMOW Yes, but not if the motor has the wrong output shaft diameter. Learned that the hard way trying to put a Harbor Freight Predator engine on a John Deere reel mower.
Whats the model and serial number for this motor?
@@sixinarow2498 I'm not sure what the serial number is, but it's a Kohler CV224
Nice
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What model do I order? the CV-224-3001 0r CV 224-3002
If I remember correctly the 3001 does NOT come with a gas tank whereas the 3002 DOES come with a gas tank. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I would go with the 3002
You still following Yardbrah?
Yeah, why wouldn't I?
I see what you mean now. I had no idea. No, I’m not anymore
@@TheMoreYouMOW How'd you find out?
Long story short, reddit.
@@TheMoreYouMOW That is exactly how I found out. Reddit is the be all, end all.
Get some new wheels my friend and you are done.
Agreed. They are just so expensive for something so dumb. Might have to bite the bullet and buy some
One would literally not be able to tell the difference cutting between that and the stock Briggs . If you think you do you are on crack .
Coming from the 190cc, yes I can tell a difference. I guess I'm a crack head. Thanks for the comment?
I have the SCAG fsc 30 it's a beast it's better because the blades are offset not timed like this one.
@@leadnsteel1428 Toro uses a timed deck to make a more compact mower ,you get your blade overlap with them side by side. Staggering the blades does the same thing but makes the deck longer but has a less expensive drive system . The best cutting and bagging is the single blade 28 like a Ybravo but it makes for a longer mower than the Toro and takes more power to run versus the shorter blade like the Toro uses that let them use a smaller engine to make it lighter.
@@TheMoreYouMOW This. While the 223 cc stock motor is not likely very different, the 190 to 224 should be night and day.
@@leadnsteel1428 Everything I read about the Scag 30 says that it's heavy and tough to maneuver. At that point, might as well go up to a 48".