Thank you. I myself am getting tired of the idea that Christianity should be defined by acceptance and inclusion rather than understanding and obeying the Word of God. Niceness is fine, but largely limited to manners. Goodness is altogether greater than this. Christians may be nice, but they MUST be good. Otherwise we feel that kindness will see us all through, and that is not enough to bring us to maturity in grace.
Impressive statement of dissent by that gentleman from Oxford. Barron is my Bishop. He seems to be an orthodox Catholic and has been good for our diocese. Thanks.
Yes, very impressive and admirable statement of dissent by the Oxford gentleman. Bishop Robert Barron has done more for me these past 3.5 years since coming into the Catholic Faith (The Plenitude) than I can say. God be praised.
Polish church officials wrote letter week ago to Pope Francis on this absurd synod in Germany, calling it unacceptable. Just other day German Bishop wrote open letter in response to Polish Bishop, in short he is not happy about PL church directly writing to Pope Francis. I say we pray for everyone who oppose German absurd and ungodly behavior in catholic church.
Love the Blessed Mother! Never, ever let go of her guiding hand that will lead us to Jesus. Pray as never before - especially the Rosary (daily) for her intentions.
GOOD WORK BROTHER...WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN CHURCH TO GET THE FACTS OUT... I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH FRANCIS AND HIS NOT FIRING THOSE GERMAN DEVILS... HE GETS RID OF GOOD BISHOPS AND RETAINS BAD ONES... THANKS FOR YOUR HELP EXPLAINING THIS MESS...
Hi, greetings from the US in Virginia. It’s getting cold outside now. While praying the prayers in the back of the 62 missal, this came to me; Yours is the only sweetness that bridles our lives. I believe there is no other thus far. What is a bridle? An instrument of control. We choose Christ’s ways freely, without coercion, to allow Him to rule our lives. The King of kings. I have been harsh in my criticisms of Bishop Barron. I publicly apologize and amend my life in this sin I’ve committed. I will go to confession ASAP. God Bless Bishop Barron
As someone who's felt Bishop Barron took way too much unfair flack from the trad community, I'm very grateful for this unexpected comment. God bless you in your humbling humility.
Hello Robert , hope Derry went well, no doubt it did ,well done to all who organized and attended , and to those like me who were there in heart and spirit. Regarding B Baron who I had many a run in with previously , he has to be commended for turning around and pointing out many wrings from Vatican to Germany. We have to resust what's not right in our beliefs as Catholics. We must not fear or be naive to be saints without fault, standing against the powers that show themselves to be anything but christian , catholic in how they operate and impose their thinking outside of the Gospels. Well done to Bishop Baron he has my respect in spades . Well done to the Derry prayer gathering . Praise be Jesus praise be his holy name
If that german spirit is not tempered and yoked by the cross... the old blood that stirs in the deep dripping forests of bavaria starts to churn and curdle. Something comes on an ill wind from history that gives a memory of whats to come
As we articulate the magisterial position on morality, our disposition should necessarily carry a conviction that the sinner is in us, and we, in the sinner. Not one of condemnation but that of being 'nailed' together with the sinner. Of salt and light (Mattew 5). It is in reaching this basic christian understanding that we are ultimately able to rise above what Merton calls the 'eternal conflict' that is 'lived' christianity. If we cannot recognize ourselves as underserving of forgiveness, we will never be able to fully proclaim the good news of repentance to the world. Be salt that is salty and illuminate as a candle would, consuming itself to give light to the world.
Bishop Barron should be asking why does the Pope does not remove the German Bishops for their evil doing in the Catholic Church, but he removes the good bishops who defend the Sanctity of the Church...
Thank you I mean this is worse than whatever Bishop Strickland did or a Bishop like him I mean actions of these bishops should result in their being retired yesterday as opposed to The Pope sending a delegation and or reiterating what The Church doctrine says!!! I pray for the Papacy and since 2013 I admit never liked that he was chosen as Pope.
Pope Francis has already signed the German bishops up for Catechism courses in 2024. The Pope may have good reasons not to straight up remove them. This includes the complex history of the Church in Germany, the state ownership of Church property and the hope of avoiding another schism
@@MikeyJMJ I hope you are being sarcastic, because otherwise, your comment is entirely nonsensical and delusional. Catechism class for Bishops? Are you joking? Why didn't he give such a class to Bishop Strickland? You guys would twist yourself into a different species just to defend the Pope's indefensible betrayal of the Church of Christ.
Sure, Bishop Barron. But resist how? By holding fast to Catholic Tradition. There is no other way. Unfortunately it seems that the German synod is only one step ahead of Rome's Synod. Time will tell, but it looks like 2024 is going to be a rough year and the only way forward is to hold fast to tradition.
It seens now that more and more the teachings of the Church Fathers and the early Christians are being treated like mere decorations to be ignored. Such tragedy. If Catholics, both clergy and laity, want to know the morality of certain "desires" just read St John Chrysostom homily with respect to Romans 1:26. Clearly and without ambiguity!
We keep obfuscating the moral truths with veils of mercy that how is someone ever presented with the crucial decision to repent and turn form their sins. There has to be at some point a clear and stark presentation of the moral truth for one to decide just like the question of Jesus is a grave decision of eithe rYes or no. Salvation or damnation. Pride or humility.
🙂 Robert's not going to criticize the Pope ? I don't understand that statement. It's up to the laity, as well, particularly given the current set of circumstances. Archbishop Fulton Sheen, certainly had a strong opinion, about such matters. 💖💖💖❤❤❤
What scientific evidence? I don't see that biology (the real science) tells us anything new about sexuality, and it tells us absolutely nothing about morality. All I see is some pseudoscience about non-falsifiable ideas and the invention of multiple "genders" (gender being an untestable/not objectively measurable concept and therefore having no place in science).
The scientific evidence would provide a basis for why a same sex attracted persons predispositions could limit personal culpability but say nothing about the objective morality of the acts themselves. There is also scientific evidence to explain why many men seek multiple sexual partners but that doesn’t say anything about the morality of promiscuous sex and adultery.
Another Tempest in a Teapot. God's Living Word is not found in a silly old book written by wrinkled old men. The love of Divine Presence is at all times for all people. There is no special consideration or rule-sets for large and aged multinational Christian cults or any other religious or political group for that matter. The mind that is in Jesus is also in you, same mind.
What is it with religions and their fixation on homosexuality? One would be forgiven for thinking that this so-called sin is the only one mentioned in the Bible worth gabbling on about. It is ironic to say the least that the Church of England whose Head is a self-confessed adulterer married to another adulterer get no condemnation from the Church on biblical grounds or berated by Vicars, Bishops or other officials as frequently as homosexuals are. This is blatant hypochrisy. Something I'm sure an all-knowing and all-seeing God is fully aware of.
It's active homosexuals, or people with a strong homosexual tendency that they show no sign of controlling, who are the ones who not supposed to be ordained. If a heterosexual person showed an unwillingness to be chaste he should also be refused ordination. Incidentally you probably mean chaste. Celibacy is simply the situation of not being married.
It is discouraged because homosexual attraction implies many other love issues, which show on the reason behind such attraction. As we know it is not being born that way, but a psycolical, emotional development, and it shows there is a disorder. It's harder for a homosexual man to love a man, than for a heterosexual man to love a woman. For homosexual men find it harder to put aside their attraction, as there is a maleness hole inside that affects. It is not impossible, just harder. So homosexual men are discouraged, but exceptions could be taken into consideration based on such man development. I believe the rule is against, nevertheless.
I really feel sorry for the faithful of the Church of England. We need to wise up, we are not far behind this mess. Boundaries are there for a reason.
Communism has to be stopped
Thank you. I myself am getting tired of the idea that Christianity should be defined by acceptance and inclusion rather than understanding and obeying the Word of God. Niceness is fine, but largely limited to manners. Goodness is altogether greater than this. Christians may be nice, but they MUST be good. Otherwise we feel that kindness will see us all through, and that is not enough to bring us to maturity in grace.
Impressive statement of dissent by that gentleman from Oxford.
Barron is my Bishop. He seems to be an orthodox Catholic and has been good for our diocese. Thanks.
I think he is an amazing bishop and love his Word on Fire stuff, especially the New Testament
Yes, very impressive and admirable statement of dissent by the Oxford gentleman.
Bishop Robert Barron has done more for me these past 3.5 years since coming into the Catholic Faith (The Plenitude) than I can say. God be praised.
Polish church officials wrote letter week ago to Pope Francis on this absurd synod in Germany, calling it unacceptable. Just other day German Bishop wrote open letter in response to Polish Bishop, in short he is not happy about PL church directly writing to Pope Francis. I say we pray for everyone who oppose German absurd and ungodly behavior in catholic church.
A man with a backbone! Now that is refreshing!
Love the Blessed Mother! Never, ever let go of her guiding hand that will lead us to Jesus. Pray as never before - especially the Rosary (daily) for her intentions.
In fairness, listening to that marvellous chap speaking, I'm confronted with the reality that one wouldn't get that in a circle of Irish bishops.
Thanks Robert+
GOOD WORK BROTHER...WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN CHURCH TO GET THE FACTS OUT...
I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH FRANCIS AND HIS NOT FIRING THOSE GERMAN DEVILS...
HE GETS RID OF GOOD BISHOPS AND RETAINS BAD ONES...
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP EXPLAINING THIS MESS...
Hi, greetings from the US in Virginia. It’s getting cold outside now. While praying the prayers in the back of the 62 missal, this came to me; Yours is the only sweetness that bridles our lives. I believe there is no other thus far. What is a bridle? An instrument of control. We choose Christ’s ways freely, without coercion, to allow Him to rule our lives. The King of kings.
I have been harsh in my criticisms of Bishop Barron. I publicly apologize and amend my life in this sin I’ve committed. I will go to confession ASAP. God Bless Bishop Barron
As someone who's felt Bishop Barron took way too much unfair flack from the trad community, I'm very grateful for this unexpected comment. God bless you in your humbling humility.
OFFER UP YOUR ROSARY AS OUR BLESSED MOTHER HAS ASKED US TO DO FOR THE CHURCH 🙏🕊️🙏SHE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT 🙏💯🙏
Grateful for the Bishop's clear write up ... there was time I wondered where he stood
Too little, too late
Well I'm sorry you are choosing that path @@Dan-nv7ur As for me and my house ... CATECHISM 1766 ... James 4:6 ....Matthew 18:21-22 ....Luke 6: 20-26
Hello Robert , hope Derry went well, no doubt it did ,well done to all who organized and attended , and to those like me who were there in heart and spirit.
Regarding B Baron who I had many a run in with previously , he has to be commended for turning around and pointing out many wrings from Vatican to Germany.
We have to resust what's not right in our beliefs as Catholics.
We must not fear or be naive to be saints without fault, standing against the powers that show themselves to be anything but christian , catholic in how they operate and impose their thinking outside of the Gospels.
Well done to Bishop Baron he has my respect in spades .
Well done to the Derry prayer gathering .
Praise be Jesus praise be his holy name
It is always the Germans, when it comes to "reforming" the Holy Church.
Yes, isn't that odd.
It is always Germany for so many painful things....
And yet each of our countries have bishops and priests that propose these ideas. Unfortunately its not just Germany anymore.
@@rebeccadanvers884not least Bratwurst
If that german spirit is not tempered and yoked by the cross... the old blood that stirs in the deep dripping forests of bavaria starts to churn and curdle. Something comes on an ill wind from history that gives a memory of whats to come
He's not happy with the so-called Synod of Synodalality of recent times either, which is refreshing to hear.
It mustn’t become The Synod on Sexuality
As we articulate the magisterial position on morality, our disposition should necessarily carry a conviction that the sinner is in us, and we, in the sinner. Not one of condemnation but that of being 'nailed' together with the sinner. Of salt and light (Mattew 5). It is in reaching this basic christian understanding that we are ultimately able to rise above what Merton calls the 'eternal conflict' that is 'lived' christianity. If we cannot recognize ourselves as underserving of forgiveness, we will never be able to fully proclaim the good news of repentance to the world. Be salt that is salty and illuminate as a candle would, consuming itself to give light to the world.
Bishop Barron should be asking why does the Pope does not remove the German Bishops for their evil doing in the Catholic Church, but he removes the good bishops who defend the Sanctity of the Church...
Thank you I mean this is worse than whatever Bishop Strickland did or a Bishop like him I mean actions of these bishops should result in their being retired yesterday as opposed to The Pope sending a delegation and or reiterating what The Church doctrine says!!!
I pray for the Papacy and since 2013 I admit never liked that he was chosen as Pope.
Pope Francis has already signed the German bishops up for Catechism courses in 2024. The Pope may have good reasons not to straight up remove them. This includes the complex history of the Church in Germany, the state ownership of Church property and the hope of avoiding another schism
I pray for the Papacy
@@MikeyJMJ I hope you are being sarcastic, because otherwise, your comment is entirely nonsensical and delusional. Catechism class for Bishops? Are you joking? Why didn't he give such a class to Bishop Strickland? You guys would twist yourself into a different species just to defend the Pope's indefensible betrayal of the Church of Christ.
The German church is very wealthy, they own companies and probably donate large amounts of $$$ to the Vatican.
Truth is Truth: transparent, understanding and solid. Not as we interpret truth, to satisfy our ego and lust!
Or prejudice;)
Sure, Bishop Barron. But resist how? By holding fast to Catholic Tradition. There is no other way. Unfortunately it seems that the German synod is only one step ahead of Rome's Synod. Time will tell, but it looks like 2024 is going to be a rough year and the only way forward is to hold fast to tradition.
Stay close to God!
It seens now that more and more the teachings of the Church Fathers and the early Christians are being treated like mere decorations to be ignored. Such tragedy.
If Catholics, both clergy and laity, want to know the morality of certain "desires" just read St John Chrysostom homily with respect to Romans 1:26. Clearly and without ambiguity!
We keep obfuscating the moral truths with veils of mercy that how is someone ever presented with the crucial decision to repent and turn form their sins. There has to be at some point a clear and stark presentation of the moral truth for one to decide just like the question of Jesus is a grave decision of eithe rYes or no. Salvation or damnation. Pride or humility.
Calvin would make an amazing Catholic
There is a Belgian Bishop who is excusing so called euthanasia. I am not aware of any reprimand having been issued.
🙂 Robert's not going to criticize the Pope ? I don't understand that statement. It's up to the laity, as well, particularly given the current set of circumstances. Archbishop Fulton Sheen, certainly had a strong opinion, about such matters.
💖💖💖❤❤❤
Amen 🙏✝️😊
The C of E is an extraordinary concatenation of fearful men and women…fearful of each other…
To be fair , we can’t ignore scientific evidence in regards to sexuality. We aren’t fundamentalists
Ok. But we can’t ignore God’s call to how we should act either.
What scientific evidence? I don't see that biology (the real science) tells us anything new about sexuality, and it tells us absolutely nothing about morality. All I see is some pseudoscience about non-falsifiable ideas and the invention of multiple "genders" (gender being an untestable/not objectively measurable concept and therefore having no place in science).
The scientific evidence would provide a basis for why a same sex attracted persons predispositions could limit personal culpability but say nothing about the objective morality of the acts themselves. There is also scientific evidence to explain why many men seek multiple sexual partners but that doesn’t say anything about the morality of promiscuous sex and adultery.
@@thecatholicman that’s a given but we mustn’t exclude relevant elements
@@Forester- of course not. But many people just go on blind prejudice with this issue
Right
Watch him get hit by Bergoglio's wrath. I wonder what LGBTQIAwxyz bishop will replace him
Tell the pope..francis is out of his head..😢
Jesus said he is Truth
The name they picked begins with the word SIN
Another Tempest in a Teapot. God's Living Word is not found in a silly old book written by wrinkled old men. The love of Divine Presence is at all times for all people. There is no special consideration or rule-sets for large and aged multinational Christian cults or any other religious or political group for that matter. The mind that is in Jesus is also in you, same mind.
If we have the mind of Jesus we would do as Jesus did which is to say “Go and sin no more”.
What is it with religions and their fixation on homosexuality? One would be forgiven for thinking that this so-called sin is the only one mentioned in the Bible worth gabbling on about. It is ironic to say the least that the Church of England whose Head is a self-confessed adulterer married to another adulterer get no condemnation from the Church on biblical grounds or berated by Vicars, Bishops or other officials as frequently as homosexuals are. This is blatant hypochrisy. Something I'm sure an all-knowing and all-seeing God is fully aware of.
The Church is quite proficient in telling Jesus what to teach and how to behave. Why not just excommunicate Him?
He like Jorge are the broken clocks of our time. One can only proclaim falsehoods so many times before you are irrelevant.
Why is a heterosexual celibate priest acceptable, but not a homosexual celibate priest--- or is that OK ?
a celibate priest with homosexual attraction is technically okay since through celibacy he does not actually commit sin.
It's active homosexuals, or people with a strong homosexual tendency that they show no sign of controlling, who are the ones who not supposed to be ordained. If a heterosexual person showed an unwillingness to be chaste he should also be refused ordination. Incidentally you probably mean chaste. Celibacy is simply the situation of not being married.
It is discouraged because homosexual attraction implies many other love issues, which show on the reason behind such attraction. As we know it is not being born that way, but a psycolical, emotional development, and it shows there is a disorder. It's harder for a homosexual man to love a man, than for a heterosexual man to love a woman. For homosexual men find it harder to put aside their attraction, as there is a maleness hole inside that affects. It is not impossible, just harder. So homosexual men are discouraged, but exceptions could be taken into consideration based on such man development. I believe the rule is against, nevertheless.