Interview with EVP & CTO Rahul Fotedar from Morrow Batteries
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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Great News , We need more Batteries to be manufactured across EU .
Awesome episode Bjørn👍. Important topics made easy to understand. More episodes like that, please😊.
Very knowledgeable guy. Great to hear.
This was amazing. More please! Evidence- based discussion by experts. Just what the internet needs more of.. ❤
I don't always remember to like the videos, but this was a no-brainer.
Great episode Bjørn, but should've asked him what car he drives 😁😁
Excellent interview Bjørn and Rahul! Thanks for bringing more information about battery technology. It will be interesting to know more about their customers when that becomes available.
Tack!
Thank you :)
I would love to see more about batteries. Especially about repairing and reusing them. Compare for example a Kia/Hyundai battery with 32 modules that can be easy and cheap individually replaced with a VW/Audi/Skoda that has about 10 modules or a Tesla that has a capsulated battery or 4 module variants. It's not the same if you can fix it with by replacing a 200 EUR module or you need to pay 10.000 EUR or more for an entire sealed battery. The SH market will become significant and people will need to learn what is a good designed battery that can be repaired easily in case some cells go bad or a rock damages it. The 150.000km warranty that most producers offer goes fast, sometimes in just 3-4 years. After that, being able to service your car battery at a decent price becomes critical.
P.S. This will also affect the insurance costs a lot in the future. I hope the EU wakes up and they will implement some minimum requirements for this. It's not normal to scrap the whole car for a small dent in the battery that we should be able to fix easy by replacing just the battery cover or the few cells that were damaged. I've seen quotes for batteries that were more than the entire car. Some dealers take advantage of this for now, but on the future this will increase costs a lot if nothing is done about it. I'm sure that a way can be found, if they managed to force Apple the change a stupid charging port, this is orders of magnitude more important to regulate.
a battery standard would be better for consumers but might stifle innovation.
@@jean-marcgruninger9019 I am not talking about standardization of cells or batteries, we want innovation but also repairable and reusable packs. The best way to approach it would be to limit the minimum number of modules inside the pack or the maximum size of a module that can be replaced individually. The minimum number should be 10 modules, like VW has, the recommended could be 20 and the ideal would be closer to 30, like some Kia and Hyundai offer. Or limit the module size at something between 3 to 5 KWh each. This way one module should not cost more that a few hundred EUR each. And the battery should not be glued, only replaceable (rubber) gaskets that can be easily swapped if damaged.
@@flaviandd ok , yer, that sounds good, so everything with repairability in mind.
I'm sure this will happen in EU first, then others will follow. Once batteries are easy to repair, there will be a boom in repair shops with specialist knowledge of taking them apart and replacing weak cells. Good for the independent automotive industry.. and good for the environment. Will help the world to cope with EV demand too. When the next global supply crisis occurs, there will be another option to keep cars and electric public transport on the road.
battery recycling is a very interesting topic to explore
The progress of battery development is fascinating, would love to hear more about the new chemistry being developed. I'm also curious about the benefits and disadvantages of cylindrical and prismatic cells when it comes to cooling etc. The prismatic cells are much bigger so are they target to cool evenly?
Thank you for sharing that valuable informations.
Very interesting and worthwhile interview, thanks Bjorn.
Very interesting to see as a Northvolter :D
Perhaps labour cost is not as big an issue when the manufacturing process is technical and highly automated.
Interesting.
Great Review Bjorn!! When it comes to Cobalt does No One Know that GAS REFINING USES 100X THE AMOUNT OF COBALT Than the same amount of energy produced for batteries !! Hmm What ! ? Y E S THE refineries producing fuel use thousand of TONS of cobalt in the refinery process. You do not hear them say anything about that when they try to spread FUD about the electric cars and power stations.
Would love to get the excact size of the VW unified cell.
Batteries are getting better and better. I have a question about battery swapping stations. If you swap a battery, how do you know that you'll get a battery back with the same performance? And not an old one that drains very fast and doesn't charge quickly anymore?
Even worse for battery swap you give away the last percentage that is still in the battery to the company that runs the swap. They'll get 5, 10 maybe 20 percent that you paid for for free each time.
@@theunknownunknowns5168 I wouldn't call that a problem. I mean, you get a service for it in return. And it's up to you how much energy you'll give away. Seems fair to me.
@@theunknownunknowns5168 this is not true - theres a flat fee + the added energy ammount (it substracts the remaining energy in the battery you swapped)
@@operius2385Yeah true people will pay for better service.
Bjørn's conclusion when he tested the battery swap was it wasn't faster on that particular swap station because he had to stay in the car and couldn't do concurrent activities like meals and toilets. So current swap stations aren't really providing a better option.
Company fleet battery swap does make sense though. Truck fleets and such. Australian road trains are a obvious one I saw being done on Fully Charged charged YT.
@@malteroeper3723 I stand corrected.
Super exciting to see such factories exist in EU. I am super hyped about LMNO batteries. I hope in one podcast, you can go into more details about them, especially their chemistry.
With the many battery manufacturing factories being built in Europe, North America and looks like Australia is going to get into it. All that competition is going to drive performance and costs only in a good direction. In 2035 you might be able to put a new battery in your 2013 Leaf that is half the size, quarter the weight and a thousand kilometres of range.
May be enough will be to have the same size of battery, 20% less weight, 40% more range and half cost... but why not to dream...
Interesting video! Thanks
Great interview thanks
Very interesting congratulations
Super interesting! 👍👍
Are you going to Thailand this year? I enjoy your vlogs there
What about the new breakthrough of very energy dense silicon anode material coming out of Group14, Sila Nanotechnologies, Ampirus, OneD, and others.
Are Morrow interested in that?
Gen two from Morrow?, the battery for tomorrow
Hydrovolt is the battery recycle company. Can be an object for a visit and an intervju. How far they have come and so.
Overall lifetime emissions are nevertheless around 80% lower for the electric car since 90% of the petrol car's lifetime emissions are due to the combustion of fuel.
Electrification of the oil platforms will - together with electricity for refining the oil - mean that you use far more ELECTRICITY to drive a fossil fueled car one mile than the equivalent for an electric car!
Good episode 😃👍
Takk!
Takk skal du ha :)
One topic that would’ve been interesting to hear more about is how different/future chemistries are affected when fast charging in the cold. Will there be improvements to LFP chemistry in cold climate etc.? Thank you.
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How much more hydroelectric potential generation does Noway have? Is it relevant compared to needs of battery manufacturing for Europe consumption?
Bjørn, a question you could ask Morrow Batteries. Is there gains to be made in the processing of recycled batteries? From what I have seen whole battery modules are shredded, separating the components in a automated before shredding might make further processing easier, if it's scalable... for example.
Umicore for instance has a different methodology; they just burn the damn thing (they use the energy inside the battery). Pyrometallurgy + Hydro step. Less CO2 intensive & more scalable. They operate a pilot plant with 7000 ton capacity (that is bigger than most recyclers today) since 2011.
Is Rahul talking about LMO or LNMO? Not sure i heard it correctly. Or is he referring to "nickel rich manganese"/"high lithium manganese" chemistry (NMC 370) that gets a lot of traction lately? He didn't get to answer on the charging answer regarding tot that chemistry. I'm curious on the charging capabilities for that chemistry.
LNMO
Fast charging of LNMO will depend in part on the anode material. If they use a graphite anode (which I think they are trying to develop, nobody has managed to do it so far), it will have the same anode-side limitations as NMC/Graphite.
Catl says, ( i assume here in case if nothing major shit happens in the world) the price of their 2nd generation lithium iron phospahe battery will be 50% from the current price
( not the cost for them, the price for the car company's to buy) which should bring down the cost of the cars, and if the car brands use that to lower car prices then we could get even cheaper cars, but only if they use that to make it cheapr not to make more profit on them.
Follow up video please
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Place your bets which oem is it? Tesla Germany perhaps?
I guess BMW. Although Tesla did say they'll buy everything they can get hold of.
What about Das Auto?
@bjornnyland WOW first time you've replied to a comment of mine, made my day
@@bjornnylandTh!nk-Again maybe? 😜
@@bjornnyland VW is betting on Magnesiumrich chemistry (NCM 370).
Don't forget to mention that Tesla batteries are designed to not be recyclable at all. Other manufacturer do but Tesla rather wants to safe costs. Also car batteries today are not recycled because it is far to energy expensive. They just throw them away.
That sounds very unlikely. How on earth do you make a battery not recyclable? The materials there are always possible to extract.
Car batteries have a second life. Grid Support as one example. And after that you can recycle. There are first facilities that can do this. Videos available in RUclips.
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That is completely false, Tesla batteries are reused and recycled. For example Redwood Materials is recycling loads of Tesla batteries.
Umicore is recycling batteries profitable since 2011; 7000ton capacity annually (that is a pilot plant for them; they want to build a new one with 150000 ton capacity, SOP probably in 2027). They started with cell phone batteries initially. They use the energy inside the battery for their proces... EU requirements are >95% Co,Ni,Cu & >70% Li product to be recovered during recycling proces. (targets probably will move up in the future)
Batteries for cars are fine, the problem is a charging station to power it up. Australia has a size of approx 7.866 million sq kms, I hope our aging coal fired power stations can provide enough power for the anticipated flood of charging stations as well as for the rest of the country and industry.
With the sunshine you have, that's such an easy problem to solve. Just get rid of the coal lobby first. Australia is the biggest coal exporter in the world.
@@rawfromnowhere They could have been kings of Solar.
In Québec (Canada), a scandinavian company, Northvolt, is building a battery production facility. One of the reasons is that we have lithium mines and refinement facilities (lithium carbonate) also being built, therefore the most important raw material is available locally. The sad thing is... media and people in general view this as a violation of nature spaces. News outlets report on this project as an ecological disaster and a waste of gov subsidies. Fortunately, the gov is going through with it and ignore the ecowoke and oil naysayers.
I guess those same people do not say anything about the oil extraction locations, ie shale.
Those Morrow aren’t looking for robotics and automation engineers by any chance? 😄 I know someone….
Raaaauuuuuuuuuuul
Bmw, Audi and Volkswagen.
Large scale competitive European battery production a busted flush thanks to energy prices - great idea shutting down all that power baseload of varying sources, wait till the public find out the consequences of not even being able to manufacture fertilizer, most of the plants shut down and many won;t be reopening.
So basically, so far they are not making any batteries, and end of the year they will make standard lithium batteries that will be more expensive than Chinese competition, and in distant future trust us we will make new battery technology that is made by flowers and sunshine 🤗
What exactly are you trying so say?
There is nothing like a guy with glasses and a tall forehead....
The EU says you must make most components in a car in the same country. So Norway must produce it's own batteries for its EVs otherwise tariffs will be introduced.
That is going to be TH!NK-again than… 😜
Norway is not part of EU
A priority should be to reduce the distances in which the components of a certain car model are made. I mean, you can't claim your car is efficient and enviromentally friendly when the parts come from 20 different countries all around the world. I know its hard to do cause companies are always seeking for lower production costs but this should be a priority. Countries like Spain produce a lot of different car components. We could build a car with stuff from Europe only and the governments from EU could give credits to buy these cars over foreign, non EU, cars.
@@benoit6026 exactly
Sorry but I only hear “Bla bla bla bla” and a serie of buzzwords when this Raul guy talks… 🤔🤗
Ps: Stocks down ca. 95 % (the town of Arendal lost € 1.000.000 in MorroW stock value!) 😵💫
Where did you find that data? My research says that there private company with several high profile backers, the others are not disclosed .
@@freddydad1 The local newspaper… 🤗
MorroW also loaned in total € 1.000.000 to some of their employees, but now agreed that the employees don’t have to pay back their loans.
Really no bs!
@@danielstefanovic2604Hearing this Raul guy, the case is lost… 😏
@Hallo-Hallo didn't think it bs, just interested in maybe investing, most of the data hidden behind paywall.
@@1966Birger thanks