What gives his daughter the right to decide when its time to fix his relationship with his brother? What does she stand to gain from it? IMO she's being selfish. Putting the brother back into the picture at the cost of her father's pain is selfish.
@@wyzu Looks like i hit a nerve in you... No I don't go around trying to make fun of people to make myself feel better about myself because i'm not insecure. People who need to frame themselves as better than you are just bullies. IT's a form of abuse. but hey thanks for showing your true colors. Maybe you should trying having integrity and self respect so you don't hate yourself deep down. :(
@jetset808 lmao bro typed a whole paragraph u the one who's in ur feelings the daughter was clearly in the wrong and she admitted that and I love myself alot and have ppl who do unlike some loser who stays inside all day have cope harder stay mad about it
I know this story and looks like they change it a lot and in the og story the op talk a lot more about his brother and ex wife about how his ex wife cheated on him and more full story also has a video on it too and it's more then 2h long
His daughter is a MAJOR POS for talking to the uncle behind her father’s back. Op should’ve said that she broke his trust in response to her petty threats. Is she even an adult? She sounds like a child stamping her feet because she got caught doing something she shouldn’t have been doing.
Totally agree! The daughter's secretive behavior and threats show a complete lack of respect for her father's feelings. She's acting immature and selfish by trying to force a reconciliation on her terms.
Story 1 op has no one who sides with him. He was traumatized by two people who betrayed him and his daughter is like get over it. Good riddance to her. Op deserves so much better. His whole family are a bunch of traitors.
no, OP is embarrassing himself completely still negatively feeding on something that happened DECADES ago. besides that, he has a now grown daughter, obviously not with his then GF, so why hating on her and his brother instead of being thankful to the universe/god/whatever he believes in that this (forced) separation over twenty years ago led him to the mother of his daughter? i would exclude such a petty miserable blackmailing grudge-holder as well and have no sympathy with his butthurt teenage behaviour. no one wants him to LOVE his brother, but he could at least make an effort to not care at all or even be civil with him. would also make his own life easier if he allowed himself to shed the heavy hatred-chain around his neck.
OP warned Lily about his brother, I'm glad that she found out and made the right choice before it was too late. His brother was scum, he could've gotten his niece disowned for his actions.
It’s good Lily learned about her uncle’s past before the wedding. The father’s warnings were crucial to help her understand why he feels so strongly and to avoid repeating past mistakes.
I find it so fascinating that a lot of commentators were telling OP to just get over it. Yet, I guarantee if they were in this situation they would’ve reacted exactly the same way OP did. I’ll never understand why the daughter even bothered to build a relationship with OP relative despite what he’s done. What the relative did was unforgivable & there’s no excuse for it whatsoever. The daughter, inviting the relative & his partner into his home without his permission is also unacceptable. Now all of a sudden that the daughter finds out that her uncle was just using her this entire time now she wants to post all over social media about how he was using… pathetic.
People have this idea of a beautiful moment of healing and BS because they watch too many feel good Hallmark Channel movies and shows. They are movies because that shit don't happen RL. You stab someone in the back in ANY way...expect them to never forgive you. Also expect them to cut out of their life anyone that insists on maintaining a relationship with them.
You damn well know they wouldn't. People have been buried in the dirt for far lesser slights then this. The daughter is completely in the wrong and I wouldn't blame OP if he told her he never wanted to see her again.
Exactly. People can be real self righteous hypocrites when they're passing comment on things they have not (yet) experienced. I feel bad for OP: surrounded by AHs.
How dare his daughter n the family think they have the right to tell him to get over it. They dont get to dictate who he forgives. He can hold a grudge til he dies, his brother n family betrayed him n he's suppose to get over it. Screw them all.
In my family the brother would have been beaten within an inch of his life, then after he was let out of the ICU he would be informed that he was cut out from the family and to never contact anyone again. That kind of betrayal deserves no forgiveness, even after a thousand years.
And this is my thought exactly. I don’t take betrayal well and I’m very good at disassociating feelings for anyone this betrayal would end any kind of relationship to ever be had.
in my family the first GF would be dismissed by both brothers for being a a cheater(i would use a more vulgar and brutal word, but my comment would be removed by youtube) and kicked out, but i'm 3mins into the video and i don't know the whole dynamic of the cheating.
I don't know who this daughter thinks she is, ‘cause she’s not. She’s not Dr.Phil, she’s not Oprah, she's not even a Better Hell therapist, so she should have stopped acting like it from day one.
WTF is the daughter playing at? It's not her place to dictate to her father. Why is she being so deceitful and treacherous to her own father? Her behavior is disgusting. All she has to do is tell her Uncle to stay home, since its not his child getting married.
“It’s pulling the family apart!” Emotional blackmail, much? If all it took was OP to pull the family apart, then they weren’t very stable in the first place. Also, the family deserves it for their betrayals.
when the father comes home to find his brother and ex-girlfriend, who betrayed him, sitting in his living room. His shock and anger are clear as he confronts them and struggles with his daughter's request to include them in her wedding. This scene powerfully shows the deep hurt and unresolved issues between the father and his family.
When that one person made the comment that said that if he stands his ground, he will miss out on things like grandkids birthday and stuff like that, I can’t help but think, “Would that really be that bad?” The reason I say that is because if he doesn’t stand his ground here, the brother would also be at those events. Seeing him and his ex together will tear at old wounds every time he sees them together. It would wreck that man emotionally from the inside out. So, honestly, being truly cut off might not be as bad as that one poster makes it seem. And someone else said “suck it up for one day” but it won’t just be one day. Especially if he backs down this time. She’ll keep inviting the brother to events, and he’ll have to relive that trauma over and over again.
All these mofos.... I would give up my life for my kids but if i have to choose happiness i'd choose me over anyone in this world i dont give damn about any other people.
I though the daughter would just choose to ignore his dad's wounds. OP's parents are just incredible. His brother probably is the golden child for them to ignore that HIS BROTHER betrayed him along with his ex gf.
Je will have his peace IF HE WANTS .... they are not respectful of him and his daughter is insensitive ... As long as he does WHAT THEY WANT everything will be ok???? Who wants to live like that ....???
These AI stories man... Hilarious how the AI got more and more descriptive of things as the story went on. Also, despite the daughter getting married... there was not 1 mention of the goddamn Groom. Not a he, not a name, not the word groom, or husband lmao. It was like the dad married his daughter lmao. Man... im about to just... get into audiobooks. At least those would be more coherent.
There are some things you just don't do. You can't help who you fall in love with, but you can choose what you do with those feelings. In this case, if I had a brother with a girlfriend who I fell in love with... you know what I'd do? I'd bury those feelings and get over it. Because doing otherwise is a betrayal of family. You don't even date ex's of family members for the same reason. Because what happens if you go long term? How awkward would that wedding be? People don't think of the consequences of their actions.
Never forgive, never forget. Any one who can't accept your convictions doesn't need to be in your life and if they try to shame/black mail you into changing your mind, they really don't need to be part of your life.
Here's the thing cheating on him with a friend is one thing but his own brother. That a whole entire new level of betrayal. Family isn't suppose to do you like that. So I completely understand him cutting the ex and his brother out of his life. People assume that just because he has nothing to do with his brother that he hasn't forgiven him. I have forgiven people who did me wrong and I still have nothing to do with them. Ego isn't the problem..The trust is gone. Why should he keep someone who stabbed him in the back in his life. It's about consequences it's about self respect. It's about not associating with someone who would that that to their own flesh and blood. I have brother and never in my life have I ever wanted or had the desire to sleep with their gfs or wives. The moment they together it's not even a thought. So that tells me the brother was twisted asf before she was in the picture.
I would have tricked her into thinking that her sister slept with her fiance and then act like her fiance wanted to marry her sister now and tell her that the dad is paying for the wedding so that she know how it feels
Just because people change doesn't mean that they are allowed to be forgiven. It is a privilege, not a right, and if the brother wanted to mend things, he should have done so for years.
is no one here going to talk about how lily is an adult and she chose to ambush her dad with those scumbags who she knew he absolutely despises. she chose to invite the 2 people that op hates in the entire world and in doing so chose them over him??
He's the victim here, and everyone act as if they were kids and his broker only broke his favorite toy and expecting him to just "get over it". What utter disrespect. Just listening to the story i'm 100% certain they don't have much respect for him.. I'm a firm believer of, "people are not who they say they are, they are what they do". I would have asked them. If their husbands or boyfriends had done the same to them with their sister, would they view that kind of betrayal as just some "grudge" that they need to "just get over"?
So clearly she is her motherd daughter. Point out she is an x wife becouse of her relationship and family values. His daughter repeatedly fully betrayed his trust and even had so little rearguard for him, his emotional well being that it is clearly a stretch to call her family.
I feel so sorry for the son… it’s so unfair that he has to pay the price for having such selfish parents. You might not be able to help who you fall in love with but you CAN help who you fall into bed with.
My older brother (long story but we refer to him as "Road Kill" and rarely do we refer to him as brother) and I have been NC for a very long time. At least 3 decades. And I've always said that when mom died, he wasn't to be at the funeral. That she would be gone and we would remain so it was up to us who and what was there. She had a saying "if you don't send me flowers when I'm alive, don't send flowers to my funeral". RK rarely sent flowers and used his kids as a weapon against her. But he was her oldest and she maintained his odd connection to him. When she was in hospice, my younger brother (who was also NC with him) and I had a long discussion about it. The conclusion was his best friend who had been in the marines, was still a very strong man, would "guard" me at the funeral, keeping him from approaching me before or after. His strength was not necessary really, it was more about making me feel safe. My brother's family and my wife would ensure RK didn't sit next to me and would intervene if it turned pear shaped. My wife would remain by my side the entire time and promised to punch him if needed. My brother could handle everything himself but I was more emotional about the possible contact. Our plan made me feel safe, mentally and physically. Our plans never impacted the service (a Catholic mass that went on for too long, imo). My stepdad told RK we were having a gathering at bro's house and RK invited himself there. (which pissed off my brother because now RK would know where he lived) Without asking, the family managed to keep us mostly apart the many hours the gathering happened. My bro and I decided to go NC with the stepdad (this wasn't his first stunt). The only good thing to come from it was I got to meet my niece and nephew for the first time. My point is, there are usually ways to provide mental and physical safety in these situations. It worked for us. He had some twisted ideas about how the funeral would go (he wanted to play the 'look at me being noble about this' and other similar cards) but he was stopped. He showed up at the gathering but again, he was kept away from me. And my younger bro stopped his attempts toward him, too.
People are dumb on here. Yall need to realize that it’s easier for the abuser to “get over it” compared to the one being abused. If you can’t understand that then I don’t know how any of you can function. His brother stealing his girlfriend, along with his parents choosing to side with the brother, is unforgivable and that’s a fact. That’s something OP will never get over and can’t get over no matter how much he tries to make a new life. OP has every right to cling on to something so traumatic and betraying and a lot of people don’t seem to understand that. The betrayal didn’t happen to the brother or parents, so of course they can get over it. But not OP.
Wait, so OP's family was always telling him to forgive his brother and let it go while including the guy on everything (making OP feel excluded) but at same time were never forgiving him for betraying his brother and would not atend his son's wedding? Sounds inconsistent.
The only way this could've been burried is if the offending party apologized and actually meant it. He never was or did. Why is the victim supposed to just "Get over it"?? Everyone but OP is jerk here. That daughter is trash. They say OP is pulling the family apart, but they are by refusing to respect OPs VERY SIMPLE boundaries cuz they wanna be selfish playing 'happy family' when they're not. OP wasnt ruining her day SHE WAS. No one was more at fault here than her, the brother and ex who clearly aren't sorry for their betrayals. Disgusting.
I am so pissed right now that I had to stop this video for a while. I am utterly disgusted by his parents and daughter. Who do you think you are telling this man when he should get over something?!? I would have blocked all of them. Daughter made her choice. I would have asked her the question OP posed, if her fiancé did the same with her sibling how would she feel? Absolutely reprehensible family.
14:30 I was suspecting that Lily was lying to get you there. She was already being manipulative when she went behind OP's back and invited Mike and his wife to her wedding.
Does his son really deserve to be left out over his father’s mistakes? What kind of world is this? It’s disgusting, so glad your daughter had her family at her wedding too bad your brothers son thinks everyone hates him for his parents mistakes! Good thing this is a clearly fake story!
In the early days of Reddit (10 to 15 years ago) the stories were real. But not anymore with modern Reddit. It's a business now. People use AI to scan the most popular Reddit stories of the past, and then AI writes a story that is similar.
I also want to know, where the hell is the daughter's husband in all this? 😂😂 She's going back so dramatically with her father with no sign of her husband nearby even though it's her and her husband's marriage 😂. Shiiit
I think they went to Mike’s son’s wedding. And while there, their whole family is sorting all these things out hence “ pieces to the puzzle”. The whole family is kind of reconnecting.
1. The daughter did not understand nor respect her father's boundaries, but she learned the hard way. Mike and his wife deserve everything they get, but not their son. Here is a huge move that will help OP move away and end the bitterness of the betrayal that still haunts him: Reach out to his nephew (not his parents) and tell him the whole story, tell him he is the son he never had, then promise to assist him with getting all the relatives there, including Lily. This does not mean he forgives the cheaters, but it would wipe the slate clean for newfound happiness. He can also forge a relationship with his nephew independent of his cheating parents.
Can he stop his daughter from having a familial relationship with her uncle? No. But on the flip side of that, she has no right to disrespect his wishes and disregard his boundaries by trying to force him to have one! OP is not the asshole here in any way at all.
First story fake ai updates he posted it one year ago. He also said he doesn't have a good relationship with his parents in the comments because after they found out about the cheating for two months, they had the loudest s*x that he needed to move out of the house.
@douglaskeyser8584 there are two stories IIRC that are similar. The one you reference, where he brings the girl to meet the family and she is banging the brother 8 hours later and the family tells the OP in that one, the brother is happy, the girl is happy, get over it and go find someone else. The second (this one) is the scenario where the brother bangs the girl, OP tells the family he wants nothing to do with the brother. Brother marries the ex, have kids. OP is stranged from family. He marries, has daughter and divorces, and drops the bomb that for four years prior to her wedding that she has been in contact with the estranged brother and 1st Ex and planned to have her cousins in the wedding. That ended with comments blasting OP that estarnged brother would win if he (OP) did not show and she let her uncle walk her down the aisle. I don't recall updates from that one. The original was up to the the 1st update.
Oh right, I remembered, this story was so short, so I was wondering when someone would finally upload the full story and not the first part, cause the first part ended with the last Reddit comment saying he'll miss out on his daughter's other milestones and his grandkids milestones.
The only thing that I thought was disappointing is that we never knew anything about Mike's son, except that nobody wants to come to his wedding. He was just a side character that was very important but at the same time played no role in the story.
Everyone disregarded his feelings so just give in but then make it clear after the whole thing that because you have done your duties you can now let her have the family she clearly cares for more than the one you thought you had…
Who the hell does the daughter think she is. There are something better left alone. She had no right especially since she knew how much her father suffered.
The daughter is horrible. She asks her uncle why he wants to come to her wedding. She invited him behind her father's back. She chose her uncle over her father until she learned about the scheme.
@@musiclova6368 She was naive and trying to fix the relationship. When she realized it couldnt work she took the side of her dad and realized her mistake.
People who are overstepping others boundaries always ask for apologies for having boundaries. If your daughter values her uncle so much that he is able to lie for 5 years, clearly he has to be one who walks her down the aisle. And pays for her wedding expenses as well 😂 No? So she's back. That girl lays a red flag too. Pretty manipulative at a young age. The whole family is untrustworthy.
The whole story is actually like an hour long on how the whole story started and his ex wife having an affair. Yup OP was cheated on twice. The story changed up a bit.
This sounds kind of fake to be honest. It's too descriptive i think. And the daughter caved in conveniently the moment the wedding was about to happen. Because aren't a lot of people stubborn to change in real life? Not just that, the updates don't address the people commenting in reddit. It's as if the writer is writing episodic essays once they thought of something to write.
It feels like there was a chunk missing in the middle of the story. It was like the wedding happened and then boom, it was like a different story! I read a comment below that indicated the daughter’s husband cheated? But that was not included here.
The more I see these videos and read these stories, the more I understand that there's a good possibility that many of these are AI-generated or written by folks wanting to become authors somewhere down the line. Who talks, in their internal monologue, in such a manner? Not that folks across the world don't know English, but I find it hilarious how these stories don't sound conversational or natural at all! But, it's still fun to read these non-fiction and fiction stories ;)
true or not, and i don't even recall if i commented here, but here the daughter is not only a backstabbing little brat, someone who oversteps boundaries but it's her true reason: she wants to believe is she is some sort of hero, who with her wedding will unite/fix a family, that can't be fixed. Imagine deluding yourself into thinking that a major tragedy in a family can be solved/fixed because of you and ONE event, while you do everything to make the whole worse(in this case: secretly be in contact with OP's brother, and insisting that the brother has to be at the wedding)
Firstly, OP isn't in the wrong, simple as that. Second, you can tell this is a creative writing story someone wrote, too many ajectives and minute details for it to be anything else.
This could have been resolved years ago if the brother and girlfriend had apologized at some point but not only do I get the impression that that never happened and that the brother and girlfriend were sociopaths to begin with.
Feels like the narcissist gene ignored OP in this family. These stories tend to have narcissistic antagonists. And OP tends to be the outsider in the family.
What gives his daughter the right to decide when its time to fix his relationship with his brother? What does she stand to gain from it? IMO she's being selfish. Putting the brother back into the picture at the cost of her father's pain is selfish.
@jetset808 nah u just dumb 😂
@jetset808 u aint one of them😂
@@wyzu Looks like i hit a nerve in you... No I don't go around trying to make fun of people to make myself feel better about myself because i'm not insecure. People who need to frame themselves as better than you are just bullies. IT's a form of abuse.
but hey thanks for showing your true colors. Maybe you should trying having integrity and self respect so you don't hate yourself deep down. :(
@jetset808 lmao bro typed a whole paragraph u the one who's in ur feelings the daughter was clearly in the wrong and she admitted that and I love myself alot and have ppl who do unlike some loser who stays inside all day have cope harder stay mad about it
I know this story and looks like they change it a lot and in the og story the op talk a lot more about his brother and ex wife about how his ex wife cheated on him and more full story also has a video on it too and it's more then 2h long
His daughter is a MAJOR POS for talking to the uncle behind her father’s back.
Op should’ve said that she broke his trust in response to her petty threats. Is she even an adult? She sounds like a child stamping her feet because she got caught doing something she shouldn’t have been doing.
Totally agree! The daughter's secretive behavior and threats show a complete lack of respect for her father's feelings. She's acting immature and selfish by trying to force a reconciliation on her terms.
You did not watch the whole thing. I would advise it because it makes your comment invalid.
Story 1 op has no one who sides with him. He was traumatized by two people who betrayed him and his daughter is like get over it. Good riddance to her. Op deserves so much better. His whole family are a bunch of traitors.
Right?
Rule 1 ☝️ of the bro code you never steal a guys girl without consequences.
no, OP is embarrassing himself completely still negatively feeding on something that happened DECADES ago. besides that, he has a now grown daughter, obviously not with his then GF, so why hating on her and his brother instead of being thankful to the universe/god/whatever he believes in that this (forced) separation over twenty years ago led him to the mother of his daughter? i would exclude such a petty miserable blackmailing grudge-holder as well and have no sympathy with his butthurt teenage behaviour. no one wants him to LOVE his brother, but he could at least make an effort to not care at all or even be civil with him. would also make his own life easier if he allowed himself to shed the heavy hatred-chain around his neck.
OP warned Lily about his brother, I'm glad that she found out and made the right choice before it was too late. His brother was scum, he could've gotten his niece disowned for his actions.
It’s good Lily learned about her uncle’s past before the wedding. The father’s warnings were crucial to help her understand why he feels so strongly and to avoid repeating past mistakes.
I find it so fascinating that a lot of commentators were telling OP to just get over it. Yet, I guarantee if they were in this situation they would’ve reacted exactly the same way OP did. I’ll never understand why the daughter even bothered to build a relationship with OP relative despite what he’s done. What the relative did was unforgivable & there’s no excuse for it whatsoever. The daughter, inviting the relative & his partner into his home without his permission is also unacceptable. Now all of a sudden that the daughter finds out that her uncle was just using her this entire time now she wants to post all over social media about how he was using… pathetic.
People have this idea of a beautiful moment of healing and BS because they watch too many feel good Hallmark Channel movies and shows. They are movies because that shit don't happen RL. You stab someone in the back in ANY way...expect them to never forgive you. Also expect them to cut out of their life anyone that insists on maintaining a relationship with them.
The problem is people need to stop acting like everything to be healed. Sometimes when things die they stay dead. You can't fix everything.
@@Nempo13💯
You damn well know they wouldn't. People have been buried in the dirt for far lesser slights then this. The daughter is completely in the wrong and I wouldn't blame OP if he told her he never wanted to see her again.
Exactly. People can be real self righteous hypocrites when they're passing comment on things they have not (yet) experienced. I feel bad for OP: surrounded by AHs.
How dare his daughter n the family think they have the right to tell him to get over it. They dont get to dictate who he forgives. He can hold a grudge til he dies, his brother n family betrayed him n he's suppose to get over it. Screw them all.
A man's self respect (feminist calls it Ego) is everything they have, EVERYTHING. Can't compromise.
My selfrespect whould still disown the daughter.
In my family the brother would have been beaten within an inch of his life, then after he was let out of the ICU he would be informed that he was cut out from the family and to never contact anyone again. That kind of betrayal deserves no forgiveness, even after a thousand years.
And this is my thought exactly. I don’t take betrayal well and I’m very good at disassociating feelings for anyone this betrayal would end any kind of relationship to ever be had.
Sadly I can't say the same for mine. My extended family is eerily similar to OP's
in my family the first GF would be dismissed by both brothers for being a a cheater(i would use a more vulgar and brutal word, but my comment would be removed by youtube) and kicked out, but i'm 3mins into the video and i don't know the whole dynamic of the cheating.
I don't know who this daughter thinks she is, ‘cause she’s not. She’s not Dr.Phil, she’s not Oprah, she's not even a Better Hell therapist, so she should have stopped acting like it from day one.
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The daughter should have minded her own business. She had no right to do what she did
WTF is the daughter playing at? It's not her place to dictate to her father. Why is she being so deceitful and treacherous to her own father? Her behavior is disgusting. All she has to do is tell her Uncle to stay home, since its not his child getting married.
If I saw them in my house I would call the cops real quick
that's exactly what I thought
i would feel so cornered that i would either have a panic/anxiety attack or go violent. either way you wouldn't be able to reason with me.
“It’s pulling the family apart!” Emotional blackmail, much? If all it took was OP to pull the family apart, then they weren’t very stable in the first place. Also, the family deserves it for their betrayals.
the daughter is garbage for pulling this stunt. if she needs someone to pay for the wedding her uncle can pay since hes so important
when the father comes home to find his brother and ex-girlfriend, who betrayed him, sitting in his living room. His shock and anger are clear as he confronts them and struggles with his daughter's request to include them in her wedding. This scene powerfully shows the deep hurt and unresolved issues between the father and his family.
When that one person made the comment that said that if he stands his ground, he will miss out on things like grandkids birthday and stuff like that, I can’t help but think, “Would that really be that bad?” The reason I say that is because if he doesn’t stand his ground here, the brother would also be at those events. Seeing him and his ex together will tear at old wounds every time he sees them together. It would wreck that man emotionally from the inside out. So, honestly, being truly cut off might not be as bad as that one poster makes it seem.
And someone else said “suck it up for one day” but it won’t just be one day. Especially if he backs down this time. She’ll keep inviting the brother to events, and he’ll have to relive that trauma over and over again.
I knew many people who thought they could be Dr Phil and it always backfired on everyone
I hope the daughter's husband cheat on her, and op still befriend him just like how the daughter want to reconcile with her uncle and aunt.
All these mofos.... I would give up my life for my kids but if i have to choose happiness i'd choose me over anyone in this world i dont give damn about any other people.
The nerve of that b saying he choosing pride over her when she isn't doing the same
she is choosing her uncle(a cheater and backstabber) over her own dad...
I though the daughter would just choose to ignore his dad's wounds. OP's parents are just incredible. His brother probably is the golden child for them to ignore that HIS BROTHER betrayed him along with his ex gf.
This can be fixed if the offending party ever tried hard to apologize but from what I'm hearing the cheater and the stealer never did that.
I don’t think an apology would fix anything. What happened to him seriously messed him up. One apology won’t fix anything
He's not his brother, none of this would have happened if people could just accept this.
There's at least 3 different variants of this same story.
Imagine if OP hadn't stood his ground. His daughter would've been taken advantage of.
Man it feels more like a story at this point
Je will have his peace IF HE WANTS ....
they are not respectful of him and his daughter is insensitive ...
As long as he does WHAT THEY WANT everything will be ok????
Who wants to live like that ....???
These AI stories man...
Hilarious how the AI got more and more descriptive of things as the story went on.
Also, despite the daughter getting married... there was not 1 mention of the goddamn Groom. Not a he, not a name, not the word groom, or husband lmao. It was like the dad married his daughter lmao.
Man... im about to just... get into audiobooks. At least those would be more coherent.
Half is real ending is ai
Also mother is missing. Who’s the mother.
OP's limits have been CLEAR for DECADES the family lied to him and betrayed him SCREW EM
Everyone seems to be choosing the op brother over him and ignoring his boundaries every turn.
There are some things you just don't do. You can't help who you fall in love with, but you can choose what you do with those feelings. In this case, if I had a brother with a girlfriend who I fell in love with... you know what I'd do? I'd bury those feelings and get over it. Because doing otherwise is a betrayal of family.
You don't even date ex's of family members for the same reason. Because what happens if you go long term? How awkward would that wedding be? People don't think of the consequences of their actions.
I know this is all fake but it was very well written. I was hooked despite myself.
Never forgive, never forget. Any one who can't accept your convictions doesn't need to be in your life and if they try to shame/black mail you into changing your mind, they really don't need to be part of your life.
Here's the thing cheating on him with a friend is one thing but his own brother. That a whole entire new level of betrayal. Family isn't suppose to do you like that. So I completely understand him cutting the ex and his brother out of his life. People assume that just because he has nothing to do with his brother that he hasn't forgiven him. I have forgiven people who did me wrong and I still have nothing to do with them. Ego isn't the problem..The trust is gone. Why should he keep someone who stabbed him in the back in his life. It's about consequences it's about self respect. It's about not associating with someone who would that that to their own flesh and blood. I have brother and never in my life have I ever wanted or had the desire to sleep with their gfs or wives. The moment they together it's not even a thought. So that tells me the brother was twisted asf before she was in the picture.
I would have tricked her into thinking that her sister slept with her fiance and then act like her fiance wanted to marry her sister now and tell her that the dad is paying for the wedding so that she know how it feels
Just because people change doesn't mean that they are allowed to be forgiven. It is a privilege, not a right, and if the brother wanted to mend things, he should have done so for years.
I have to ask one thing, who got the daughter in contact with the Brother? Was it his parents, his Ex? That may be a lawsuit in the making.
is no one here going to talk about how lily is an adult and she chose to ambush her dad with those scumbags who she knew he absolutely despises.
she chose to invite the 2 people that op hates in the entire world and in doing so chose them over him??
He's the victim here, and everyone act as if they were kids and his broker only broke his favorite toy and expecting him to just "get over it". What utter disrespect. Just listening to the story i'm 100% certain they don't have much respect for him.. I'm a firm believer of, "people are not who they say they are, they are what they do". I would have asked them. If their husbands or boyfriends had done the same to them with their sister, would they view that kind of betrayal as just some "grudge" that they need to "just get over"?
So clearly she is her motherd daughter. Point out she is an x wife becouse of her relationship and family values.
His daughter repeatedly fully betrayed his trust and even had so little rearguard for him, his emotional well being that it is clearly a stretch to call her family.
I feel so sorry for the son… it’s so unfair that he has to pay the price for having such selfish parents. You might not be able to help who you fall in love with but you CAN help who you fall into bed with.
Story 1:
OP = NTA
The World's Smallest Violins 👌🏻🎻👌🏻🎻👌🏻🎻👌🏻 for Mike !!! 😂😂
Wow, using someone as a free nanny and maid, that's really low. Good on you for standing your ground!
My older brother (long story but we refer to him as "Road Kill" and rarely do we refer to him as brother) and I have been NC for a very long time. At least 3 decades. And I've always said that when mom died, he wasn't to be at the funeral. That she would be gone and we would remain so it was up to us who and what was there. She had a saying "if you don't send me flowers when I'm alive, don't send flowers to my funeral". RK rarely sent flowers and used his kids as a weapon against her. But he was her oldest and she maintained his odd connection to him. When she was in hospice, my younger brother (who was also NC with him) and I had a long discussion about it. The conclusion was his best friend who had been in the marines, was still a very strong man, would "guard" me at the funeral, keeping him from approaching me before or after. His strength was not necessary really, it was more about making me feel safe. My brother's family and my wife would ensure RK didn't sit next to me and would intervene if it turned pear shaped. My wife would remain by my side the entire time and promised to punch him if needed. My brother could handle everything himself but I was more emotional about the possible contact. Our plan made me feel safe, mentally and physically. Our plans never impacted the service (a Catholic mass that went on for too long, imo). My stepdad told RK we were having a gathering at bro's house and RK invited himself there. (which pissed off my brother because now RK would know where he lived) Without asking, the family managed to keep us mostly apart the many hours the gathering happened. My bro and I decided to go NC with the stepdad (this wasn't his first stunt). The only good thing to come from it was I got to meet my niece and nephew for the first time.
My point is, there are usually ways to provide mental and physical safety in these situations. It worked for us. He had some twisted ideas about how the funeral would go (he wanted to play the 'look at me being noble about this' and other similar cards) but he was stopped. He showed up at the gathering but again, he was kept away from me. And my younger bro stopped his attempts toward him, too.
And who are these people who use such sophisticated words to tell the whole world how their life is going on
Novelists.
Someone is definitely tossing reddit stories into an AI editor. 😅
People are dumb on here. Yall need to realize that it’s easier for the abuser to “get over it” compared to the one being abused. If you can’t understand that then I don’t know how any of you can function. His brother stealing his girlfriend, along with his parents choosing to side with the brother, is unforgivable and that’s a fact. That’s something OP will never get over and can’t get over no matter how much he tries to make a new life. OP has every right to cling on to something so traumatic and betraying and a lot of people don’t seem to understand that. The betrayal didn’t happen to the brother or parents, so of course they can get over it. But not OP.
Unfortunately people think life is a fucking hallmark card
Wait, so OP's family was always telling him to forgive his brother and let it go while including the guy on everything (making OP feel excluded) but at same time were never forgiving him for betraying his brother and would not atend his son's wedding?
Sounds inconsistent.
Karma meet Uncle Mike...Uncle Mike meet Karma muuuuuaaaahhhhhhh
he already stole OP'S daughter.
Ops daughter is a snake, if there wasn't that phone call things would be different.
still adding that AI feel good newfound perspective at the end
That's rich... His mother told him he was being stubborn and selfish... But everyone is is being equally stubborn and selfish...
4 years!!!!! You're dead to me, go ask my brother to pay for the wedding!
This really sucks the dad is right to feel this way, but he'll really lose his relationship with his daughter, a really shitty situation.
He can always have new kids
@@brandonturner97 LMAO
@@brandonturner97LOL if one is messed up, make more until one comes out perfect
She’s a trashy excuse for a daughter so not much of a loss
Even a cobra is more merciful than OP's family.
The only way this could've been burried is if the offending party apologized and actually meant it. He never was or did. Why is the victim supposed to just "Get over it"?? Everyone but OP is jerk here. That daughter is trash. They say OP is pulling the family apart, but they are by refusing to respect OPs VERY SIMPLE boundaries cuz they wanna be selfish playing 'happy family' when they're not.
OP wasnt ruining her day SHE WAS. No one was more at fault here than her, the brother and ex who clearly aren't sorry for their betrayals. Disgusting.
I am so pissed right now that I had to stop this video for a while. I am utterly disgusted by his parents and daughter. Who do you think you are telling this man when he should get over something?!? I would have blocked all of them. Daughter made her choice. I would have asked her the question OP posed, if her fiancé did the same with her sibling how would she feel? Absolutely reprehensible family.
14:30 I was suspecting that Lily was lying to get you there. She was already being manipulative when she went behind OP's back and invited Mike and his wife to her wedding.
Does his son really deserve to be left out over his father’s mistakes? What kind of world is this? It’s disgusting, so glad your daughter had her family at her wedding too bad your brothers son thinks everyone hates him for his parents mistakes! Good thing this is a clearly fake story!
Second variant ending.
When the father called and he spoke, I went click....
Just curious why did the OP's daughter go home with her father on her wedding day instead of with her husband?
Your peace is everything...people don't get to demand forgiveness ✨️
What a nice creative writing assignment! 😂 You could tell the author tried hard to come up with a good story.
He pulled it from a story on the website Literotica. I read it like six weeks ago. 😅
For real. I understand how these videos can be entertaining, but it baffles me how people comment on these videos like their actually real
I feel like the only one who has actual real stories is SecretVoices
In the early days of Reddit (10 to 15 years ago) the stories were real. But not anymore with modern Reddit. It's a business now. People use AI to scan the most popular Reddit stories of the past, and then AI writes a story that is similar.
Op daughter has a serious saviour complex..
Wait, if his daughter just got married, why is she with her dad instead of her new husband? And why was Mike there?
I also want to know, where the hell is the daughter's husband in all this? 😂😂 She's going back so dramatically with her father with no sign of her husband nearby even though it's her and her husband's marriage 😂. Shiiit
Yeah, and what are all these "secrets" and why are they at a town hall? A LOT of story missing here.
I think they went to Mike’s son’s wedding. And while there, their whole family is sorting all these things out hence “ pieces to the puzzle”. The whole family is kind of reconnecting.
AI written. They have trouble with consistency, realistic characters, and an overabundance of random inspirational speechs.
1. The daughter did not understand nor respect her father's boundaries, but she learned the hard way. Mike and his wife deserve everything they get, but not their son. Here is a huge move that will help OP move away and end the bitterness of the betrayal that still haunts him: Reach out to his nephew (not his parents) and tell him the whole story, tell him he is the son he never had, then promise to assist him with getting all the relatives there, including Lily. This does not mean he forgives the cheaters, but it would wipe the slate clean for newfound happiness. He can also forge a relationship with his nephew independent of his cheating parents.
Can he stop his daughter from having a familial relationship with her uncle? No. But on the flip side of that, she has no right to disrespect his wishes and disregard his boundaries by trying to force him to have one! OP is not the asshole here in any way at all.
I still say Mike’s Son shouldn’t have to suffer for his father being a asshole either
Stand your ground ..Lily knew your stance and defied it...thats on her...block them all ..
First story fake ai updates he posted it one year ago. He also said he doesn't have a good relationship with his parents in the comments because after they found out about the cheating for two months, they had the loudest s*x that he needed to move out of the house.
I remember a story like this on another channel
@douglaskeyser8584 there are two stories IIRC that are similar.
The one you reference, where he brings the girl to meet the family and she is banging the brother 8 hours later and the family tells the OP in that one, the brother is happy, the girl is happy, get over it and go find someone else.
The second (this one) is the scenario where the brother bangs the girl, OP tells the family he wants nothing to do with the brother. Brother marries the ex, have kids. OP is stranged from family. He marries, has daughter and divorces, and drops the bomb that for four years prior to her wedding that she has been in contact with the estranged brother and 1st Ex and planned to have her cousins in the wedding. That ended with comments blasting OP that estarnged brother would win if he (OP) did not show and she let her uncle walk her down the aisle. I don't recall updates from that one. The original was up to the the 1st update.
W to the daughter. She acted nicely
Oh right, I remembered, this story was so short, so I was wondering when someone would finally upload the full story and not the first part, cause the first part ended with the last Reddit comment saying he'll miss out on his daughter's other milestones and his grandkids milestones.
Lol “people change.” Remind me who he is still married too 😅
I just didn't get it. After the wedding-- why was Mike there and Aunt Clara talking? I thought Mike (the brother) was not invited?
Probably because this was created by AI... the ending is unrealistic... and no one checked it if it makes sense. And it doesn't
The only thing that I thought was disappointing is that we never knew anything about Mike's son, except that nobody wants to come to his wedding. He was just a side character that was very important but at the same time played no role in the story.
Tell your daughter to pay for your own wedding and get out
All of the overly descriptive details are annoying
Everyone disregarded his feelings so just give in but then make it clear after the whole thing that because you have done your duties you can now let her have the family she clearly cares for more than the one you thought you had…
this is so detailed and i hate when they are too detailed D:
It's not a problem dude
@@Takuradiorr it is a problem
@@Takuradiorr AI
In 50 years old and I STILL don’t see myself bringing someone his home whom I know that he does NOT wish to make contact.
if this father accepts his daughter...this will prove that this guy has no self respect and is weak
No daughter has no moral compass
Who the hell does the daughter think she is.
There are something better left alone.
She had no right especially since she knew how much her father suffered.
Home Sweet Home Alabama
The daughter is horrible. She asks her uncle why he wants to come to her wedding. She invited him behind her father's back. She chose her uncle over her father until she learned about the scheme.
Sounds fake. Why didn't he change the locks after they came over. Like wtf
It's AI
Ops daughter is just as deceitful as his brother
Did you even listen to the whole story bruh
Yes thanks. Did you? She went behind her father’s back for four years. What part of the story are you struggling with?
@@musiclova6368 She was naive and trying to fix the relationship. When she realized it couldnt work she took the side of her dad and realized her mistake.
4 YEARS!
Did you miss that part? 4 years she was communicating with her uncle behind her fathers back. It is literally that simple
Never forget never forgive learn that early and it'll protect you.
Preach! 🙌
Everything the daughter did to "bring the family together" is BS. Listen close and it's always about ME ME ME ME ME.
People who are overstepping others boundaries always ask for apologies for having boundaries. If your daughter values her uncle so much that he is able to lie for 5 years, clearly he has to be one who walks her down the aisle. And pays for her wedding expenses as well 😂 No? So she's back. That girl lays a red flag too. Pretty manipulative at a young age. The whole family is untrustworthy.
The daughter will never understand the pain till she feels betrayal also.
The whole story is actually like an hour long on how the whole story started and his ex wife having an affair. Yup OP was cheated on twice. The story changed up a bit.
Do you know the name of it?
@@Frosty89 it's been awhile and can't find it sadly.
What is it with creative writers and thinking that the cheating chad brothers of the main character would *ever* marry another cheater?
This sounds kind of fake to be honest. It's too descriptive i think. And the daughter caved in conveniently the moment the wedding was about to happen. Because aren't a lot of people stubborn to change in real life? Not just that, the updates don't address the people commenting in reddit. It's as if the writer is writing episodic essays once they thought of something to write.
It feels like there was a chunk missing in the middle of the story. It was like the wedding happened and then boom, it was like a different story! I read a comment below that indicated the daughter’s husband cheated? But that was not included here.
The more I see these videos and read these stories, the more I understand that there's a good possibility that many of these are AI-generated or written by folks wanting to become authors somewhere down the line. Who talks, in their internal monologue, in such a manner? Not that folks across the world don't know English, but I find it hilarious how these stories don't sound conversational or natural at all!
But, it's still fun to read these non-fiction and fiction stories ;)
Remember, chad always wins
22:16 This jump makes no sense, there must be at least one part missing here.
true or not, and i don't even recall if i commented here, but here the daughter is not only a backstabbing little brat, someone who oversteps boundaries but it's her true reason: she wants to believe is she is some sort of hero, who with her wedding will unite/fix a family, that can't be fixed. Imagine deluding yourself into thinking that a major tragedy in a family can be solved/fixed because of you and ONE event, while you do everything to make the whole worse(in this case: secretly be in contact with OP's brother, and insisting that the brother has to be at the wedding)
Firstly, OP isn't in the wrong, simple as that. Second, you can tell this is a creative writing story someone wrote, too many ajectives and minute details for it to be anything else.
This could have been resolved years ago if the brother and girlfriend had apologized at some point but not only do I get the impression that that never happened and that the brother and girlfriend were sociopaths to begin with.
Feels like the narcissist gene ignored OP in this family. These stories tend to have narcissistic antagonists. And OP tends to be the outsider in the family.