Rowing technique - why the pause after the finish makes you a better rower
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- In rowing this is an often debated topic, so let me clarify one important thing here in the description: I refer to the pause after the exit / finish in low steady state. There is no pause in higher stroke rates, simply because the rhythm changes.
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great video aram, a wonderful explanation in addition to the video you already did going over the force curves for the pause at the finish. much appreciated.
Thank you! I have all of our sweep rowers utilizing this style and am trying to get the sculling side of my Club to come around to this very idea.
what a wonderful vid. Im a casual erg rower but took away alot from this
Thank you. Excellent
Hi Aram. One more great analysis. I should say I'm just an "amateur" coach in an average rowing club, but anyway, last week, I was next to a women double presenting this "hands away" issue (moreover slightly differently from bow to stroke). I told them to focus on the finish (very short pause at the tap down, connection, feel the boat). After a short moment of disturbance (likely pushed out of their confort zone) they achieve the drill rather well, and, by the way, I actually had to speed up my boat.... I then asked about their feelings : they told me that at the finish, they clearly heard the waterflow under the boat ! Which I think a rather good conclusion.
Yess! Well done mate! Thank you very much for your feedback!
Hi Aram, Thanks for the great video! 2 questions: 1. Should there be a pause at the catch? 2. I don't have the budget for a unique erg, so I use the Concept2 at the gym. Any tips for translating this to the Concept2 for winter training?
I strongly disagree!
Maybe pausing as a drill is useful - but not as a constant low rate rowing style.
Saying that fast hands away stops us from being able to finish the stroke implies that as soon as we go up to race rate and start moving our hands fast that we will no longer be able to finish the stroke. Learn to finish the stroke while also having fast hands is important as thats the rhythm we have at a higher rate.
Eh it's all a compromise, at low rate you have to artificially add time to some part of the recovery. If you have fast hands it means that your body swing/slide will have to be slow, and I think that's worse than slow hands - encouraging a lazy body swing, being too heavy on the footplate on the recovery, and body bouncing out of the finish. Taking time around the finish encourages a strong, emphasized finish, still bodies, dynamic swing, and feeling the run of the boat.
@@mghgriffiths Just follow the same ratio at a low rate to a high rate. There isnt a compromise IMO.
@@JackBurnsEdgeRowing I'm not quite sure how you can have the same ratio at low and high rates - the recovery takes 3 times longer relative to the drive at low rates compared to high rates, so there has to be some difference in the movement patterns. Also the acceleration profile > r28 (peak velocity mid recovery) is fundamentally different to the acceleration profile < r24 (peak velocity at finish). If you row the same rhythm/ratio in both those regimes you won't be moving with the boat at one of those rates. So I believe you have to pick which of your arms away/body movement is going to be 'out of rythym' at low rates. Given a choice between getting the arms and the body movement 'right' in the recovery I would prefer to get the bodies moving well as this is going to set up better the posture and weight distribution into the front end.
Broadly speaking this isn't really a hill I'm ready to die on, so I think the answer to fast vs slow hands is whatever the crew/squad finds easiest to execute well - I've seen a lot of decent rowers struggle to execute slow hands (though if a crew rows with fast hands I don't generally like having them paddle < r20).
Sure, the pause and other drills help technique at low steady state. The problem is then getting rid of it at the higher rates and on race day, after making it part of muscle memory for weeks or months. And no, coach saying ‘okay high rates today no pause’ doesn’t make it vanish suddenly.
I have not seen anybody capable of having a pause at SR 30
@@AramTraining Agreed, the hands should never stop moving at higher rates. Yet weeks and months of finish pause rowing steady state can build in a finish hesitation that should not be there, gets in the way of higher rates without sharp direction to eliminate it. A club crew so trained can really fight to get high rates at starts etc, unless strongly coached to not stop the hands, causing other mistakes like rushing the slide to catch up.
Other drills can have side effects, ie square blade rowing stops feathering in the water, but can cause pulling down at the finish to get out, etc.
A good reason to stop talking about the oar going through the water. That’s the last thing we want.