How Brexit brings old tensions back to Northern Ireland | Focus on Europe
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- In Northern Ireland, Protestants remain loyal to the United Kingdom, while many Catholics favor a united Ireland. The sectarian divide is growing, as uncertainty about a hard border with the Republic of Ireland continues.
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Please stop reporting this as a 'catholic' vs 'protestant' thing. It has NOTHING to do with religion. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
I agreed it's political economical mostly and cultural
Different cultural histories going back generations. Sadly old hatreds seem to be passed down to the next generation. The young woman featured in this video was probably born after The Troubles finished at the end of the last century. These old feuds belong in in the last century! Sadly this video didn't show that there are still bigots and hot heads on both sides even today. I can understand the young woman's fears about the "other side" if her family was once targetted by the IRA. I believe a united Ireland will happen and all cultures will be a part of it!
British protestants, haircuts from the 1960's and ideologies from the 1690's
It's both a political and religious conflict. For some, it's more religious, for others, its more political. But as the role of religion starts to gradually lessen in our society the political implications behind the conflict become more dominant. And to me, its easier to re-educate someone politically than religiously.
It's not about what nationalists or unionists want it's what the majority in Northern Ireland wants
Which are made up of both
@@TomNook. Yes so a referendum should be held
Foreign flag but sues UK for wages
Can you explain what it says in the video?
Freedom to Ireland! Enough of the British rule!
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Please leave Ireland to those of us that know the first thing about Ireland
@@samsonsoturian6013 You spam every subthread with that comment. Since you make yourself out to be such a notable authority on Ireland & the Troubles, why don't you list a few of these basic facts for us uneducated folk? It's only fair, since you apparently know _so much more_ about this than everyone else. 🙄
@@schechter01 woah chill out bud, maybe snide know it all comments is all Sammie can muster, don’t be too harsh
I agree
Imagine being so nationalist, yet not wanted by the nation that you identify by. I feel sorry for Unionists, too British to be Irish, too Irish to be British.
@@danielleswanson4443
Unionists want to live in the past
Belfast is as British as Wales. End of story.
@@samsonsoturian6013 Is it? That's odd the city is run by Irish Republicans and Nationalists with 27 seats vs loyalist and Unionists with 19 seats 😂 hardly as British as Wales now is it.
*TICK TOCK*
@@danielleswanson4443 The city council, it's called democracy.
@@danielleswanson4443 Triggered much? My original reply wasn't even directed at you 🙄
"The songs were well-rehearsed"
Cut to band playing out of tune
EIRish'
The band was as coherent as Northern Ireland's connection to Britain.
@@mxk1019 B'nai B'rith(ish)
Yes🇨🇮 United Ireland🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮
That's the Ivory Coast flag though
As an outsider, I truly feel Ireland should unite, but then again, who am I to say?
I once had a husband from Northern Ireland. He was impossible. 😊
That's akin to saying Taiwan should join China, but it's up to the people.
@@edward_lee I meant that northern Ireland should unite with Ireland, not Ireland with the UK
@@mrravehat5563 and allow the ira to slaughter them again? Have you forgotten what the Republic of Ireland actually done to the Northern Irish purely based on religious beliefs and loyalties? Sorry but the only word for such a thing is a genocide and a targeted one at that. Who'd want to be ruled by a political part known and verified to be associated with an internationally recognised terrorist organisation? Have you really considered what the northern Irish want or feels? They want nothing to do with the Republic after what they've suffered and sinn fein only has themselves to blame.
@@edward_lee no its the opposite actually- its akin to saying Tawiwan should be free from colonialism
Brexiters: "Oh no, what is happening? Who would have expected this?!"
literally everybody else: .....
Please leave Ireland to those of us that know basic facts about Ireland.
@@samsonsoturian6013 If you're a Brit that isn't you.
@@seankavanagh7625 That’s both racist and silly. And no, I'm a historian from a different continent.
The fact of the matter is Irish unity is almost as dead as "the south will rise again" nonsense.
@Dubjax you say that as if you are unaware when the last time Ireland was a unified independent state.
@@samsonsoturian6013 Frankly, I don't put much stock in the statements of historians who don't even live in the country whose future they are so sure about.
Free the North
The colonization of Ireland was both the very beginning, and the last pathetic vestige of British Colonialism. It’s an injustice that’s resolution is long overdue.
England was in Ireland since the 12th century. Britain has only existed as a country since 1707.
@@politicalphilosophy-thegre3894
Norman's where in Ireland from the 12th century. The trouble only really started with the English in the 1600's.
Also neither British nor the uk are country's
Please leave Ireland to those of us that know basic facts about Ireland.
@@politicalphilosophy-thegre3894 They don't care. These pendejos are using colony as a pejorative.
I agree
Just so people know a bit of the history, N. Ireland are largely Ulster Scott's, they were brought to Ireland from Scotland to help give the British a hand in ruling Ireland. Basically they were given land that the British took from the Irish. This colonization, which is what it was, happened the same year as Virginias colonization. . Fast forward a couple hundred years, the Irish were being pushed to America, the ones who survived the Famine that is, largely in order to have a class beneath them, i.e. slaves, in which both were used to bolster the rich Protestants, who to this day have a much higher amount of wealth than Catholics. Please do your own research and see this is all verifiable.
@Patrick Bertlein
The kingdom of Dal Riata was one of the five founding members at the formation of Scotland around 900AD. The kingdom of Dal Riata was a kingdom which had begun in Ulster and managed to carve out a good chunk of the west coast of Scotland so at the time of the formation of Scotland it straddled the Irish sea. In short Ulster became part of Scotland long before any Ireland ever existed feel free to research and verify.
Ps Britain will accept the will of the people as expressed in a referendum, NI tends to run around a 12 billion per year net loss (2021 being 15 billion) and it's population per capita share of Britain's debt stands around 66billion. (a bargain as NI cost Britain that in the last five years alone, I've no idea what the debt figure would be if the amount of British debt NI was actually responsible for was tallied)
I might be E.U citizen (catholic italian) but this british (england) rule nonsense over Ireland needs to stop. Ireland is one, should be one, give them the freedom they so deserve.
If the unionists love the UK so much then they should go live in England and let the Irish reclaim what’s rightfully theirs.
The past is never done not until British imperialism is defeated in Ireland and Russian imperialism is defeated in Ukraine
The"past doES NOT exist!
b'nai b'rithISH
But' BabyLonDON SUBports* Ugrain! ***
I agree
@@seanohare5488 Eye=Ego* *but' OnLY 4Eire/land*
What century are you in
@@joprocter4573 SENT=10%
One Ireland
Ireland Republic
so the population dont get to decide for themselves?
@@davidgalea6113 Unionists don’t even belong in Ireland it’s like letting the Russians vote if Ukraine should be apart of Russia.
@@liamneil8918 does not matter who you think belongs and does not belong in NI. In the end all that really matters is what the majority want.
@@davidgalea6113 That’s the thing the nationalists will become the majority.
@@liamneil8918 have the census results came out yet?
Who in their right mind would choose to be British?
It's either that or be a feinan!! I'd rather identify as a British citizen than a ROMAN Catholic.
@@Raptureready2024Ryan did you mean fenian? thats funny, i didnt realise we had mandatory catholicism in ireland? i better get to mass so! and it doesnt matter how you identify. if youre born in ireland youre irish. a border doesnt change that.
@@Raptureready2024Ryan I don't understand your comment. Religious delusions are a choice.
@@Raptureready2024Ryan and yet you have an Irish Catholic name Ryan 🙄
People that live in the past. They think they still have an empire
Irish unity now!
Deluded
@@GadgetGazza1690
Enjoy Sinn Fein first minister
🤣
@@gottmituns813 👙
@@GadgetGazza1690
Why does a United Ireland frighten you so much?
@@mijicmugendo He’s a Brexiter with a sad nostalgia for the British Empire. His own shadow scares him.
Northern Ireland "Protocol" still confusing after Britain leaves EU. North...Ireland 🇮🇪 REFERENDUM Poll must need too...
Tell the Irish that want to be English to move to England !! Ireland belongs to Irish.
Maybe tell the Irish who live in London Manchester Birmingham Liverpool the same . What about the Catholic's of West Belfast what Call themselves Irish Republician's the Majority of them have never worked a day in there lives claiming British Benefits and get Free Mobility Car's and Free Housing and Free NHS Health care 😂😅 And paid for By British Tax Payer's 🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@GadgetGazza1690 why do you take this position? It's putunesque!
@@aoconnnell small men aspire to be part of 'supposed' Great nations
@@GadgetGazza1690
What has that got to do with NI which is a legacy of British colonialism
Are you advocating razing Belfast to the ground?
Yes🇨🇮 UNITED IRELAND🇨🇮🇨🇮
go to britain if u love it so much
True
Britain doesn't want them either.
“Go to the Republic if u love it so much”
Is it an issue between Catholics & Protestants, a religious issue?
Or, is it really, like you show here, an issue between the Irish & the UK, or British, because those who are aligned with the British should really consider emigrating, to leave the Irish Isle in peace.
True why be such a pariah
It was never a religious issue - the ‘protestants’ are descendants of the British who were planted in that region of Ireland to control and ethnically cleanse the indigenous ‘catholics’ . Its really an issue between the British Anglo saxons and Irish Gaels
Why should the Ulster Protestants, who’s home it has been for 400 years (longer than the Europeans been in America) leave their homes since a German man told them to?
@@dan-860 No one is asking them to leave? There is a role for them in a new Ireland. Lots of people have settled in Ireland before and after the plantation, they just became Irish. The problem with the plantation was it was a campaign of hate which still survives. The protestant man just has to realise the day of the empire is finished and its time to become Irish while keeping your own heritage.
@@mulhern1988 how and why should an ulster scot for example "become Irish while keeping your own heritage". That does not make sense thats like telling the Taiwanese to become Chinese and keep their heritage... This attitude is this problem they already have their own identity/heritage/country. why should they give it all up?
Free the 4 🏴🇮🇪🏴🏴, End the British Dictatorship now
All these comments demanding unity now are mostly from uneducated foreigners with little knowledge of NI history. the republicans may have bombed and murdered their way into power sharing but the fate of Northern Ireland will be decided by the majority it's called democracy.
It's time for the British to get out of Ireland, if you don't you will face severe consequnces on a global scale
America stands with Ireland
Will the Americans get out of America as they stole lands for the Red Indians and all their minerals from the land?
@@robertdavies8305 Will you be making them?
@@seankavanagh7625 why? The morals are the same if not worse
Just one off the last remains what used to be British empire..India parts of Africa and the list goes on. Ireland 🇮🇪is the whole island.
I hope the Irish can reclaim N. Ireland back toghether, even if takes Vladimir Putin to get involved, then kick Brits out of the game 🇮🇹🇷🇺
Who could ever have predicted this? Oh wait, everyone who said this would happen back in 2016, 2019, 2021 and in between.
free nothern ireland
Free the Uyghars too! Free the Hong Kongers too!
free scotland
@@michaelhalsall5684 really
Those towns in Northern Ireland are truly grim. Drove through it in 2016. Never seen so many mud-brown, grey, mass-produced, cheap little squats in all my life. I feel sorry for the people living there.
Please, let us all see an image of your own, bought and paid for, ivory tower. A dwelling that clearly equates so significantly to your sense of personal status. Such pomposity! Also, I would be indebted if you could now turn your insightful expertise (as you cruise along in a hire car at 50 mph) to showing us all precisely the improvements to these "cheap little squats" that being governed by Dublin will bring to the "poor people" of Ulster.
What would Northern Irish people be inheriting in a United Ireland - A ludicriously bad housing crisis that the government refuses to do anything about. A discussion for a new Ireland can only happen by people willing to consider radical changes to the country. That change won't come from the likes of Fine Gael and Fine Fail.
@@CiaranGallagher1 in fairness the only difference there is Dublin is closer than London.
Still sooner FFG are replaced in government the better
@@CiaranGallagher1 Hence why Sinn Fein will be replacing them in the next election.
@@handsomenumber1393 Someone's an extremely sensitive soul! I suggest Gestalt Therapy, it can do wonders for soothing the nerves after a particularly stressful bout of reading moderately disagreeable comments on RUclips. There there.
You pose an important question *"how done is the past in NI?"* As an Irishman with experience in the area, I'll try to answer for an international audience:
Compared to the future, in NI things are definitely more done in the past. If we look at the present, I mean they're _almost_ done but not quite. I'd definitely say they're "doing", but I wouldn't say they're quite done yet. It's safe to say that things that were doing before at now mostly done, but some of them are still doing. Some things just were done at all. It's a nuanced picture.
It's been suggested that we can put the past ahead of us by accelerating County Antrim close to speed of light and bringing it back again. However, research shows this isn't necessary as it was already done in 1691 and they only just arrived back in 1972 and they don't fancy another trip just yet. I asked why, they just said they're done.
😂😂😂 Jesus Dave that was some head spinner 😬
What...???
Done, doing …. I almost thought that it was a troll writing this
@@Elainna888 Maybe read the title in the thumbnail before writing something. It will come across less American.
Can you explain what it says in the video?
The Red Hand of Ulster that the unionists use is an ancient gaelic symbol of the O'Neill dynasty 😂😂😂🤦♂️
Ancient? It was first used and created by the Normans, no historic evidence at all exists of it being an “ancient Gaelic symbol”
The hand represents historic Ulster,
Who’s inhabitants were the Cruthin (ancient Britons). So the red hand is consistent with their British heritage.
and the orange in the Irish flag represents the protestant orange order and the uniform that the republicans wear during their parades are surplus uniforms from the British army..😂😂😂🤦♂
@@davidgalea6113 no the orange on the flag represents the British living on the island of Ireland.
The republicans marching in NI have nothing to do with Óglaigh na hÉireann (Irish defence forces) so I have no idea why you mentioned private citizens marching.
@@RazorMouth doesnt matter citizens or not they are republicans wearing surplus british uniforms..the orange represent the protestants not the british. and its orange because of the orange order.
Give peace a chance.
That's all I am saying. 💙
NI will never have real peace as long as it is a colony of britian
They are at peace but like to pretend otherwise
A comments section on a story about Northern Ireland. Lots of fun in here
lots of clueless people dictating what should happen. yet they don't know anything about the region or it's history.
She's scared? Say that to the Catholics who were murdered just for being Irish. Like is happening in Australia it is time that the protestants acknowledge that the land belongs to the Irish. Too bad no sympathy for you. The Irish are the indigenous people to that land.
A week ago the official numbers were announced and for the first time catholics out number protestants in Northern Ireland. But religion has become less of an indicator of people's politics there. And people are becoming less religious there too. All three of those things are good news- especially the last two.
Were a referendum held in England re a United Ireland, the English would vote in large numbers to ditch N Ireland. Nothing but a headache for many years.
"we've got out of Brexit..." So, has UK rejoined the EU?
The" EU/Ssr IS 'fROMe tHE UK
@@eyeswideshot7347 ???
@@NoName-hg6cc THE "name is' th' MARK of THE "beast!
@@eyeswideshot7347 I don't understand
@@NoName-hg6cc Eye=Ego
UNDERstand=STANDunder
Protestants always screwing it up 😆
More than 160 countries had been invaded and colonized by the UK . Wow!
thats how things worked back then.. roman empire, the ottoman empire, spanish, french etc etc the weak were defeated and the strong survived. That is how the world worked, that is how natural selection and evolution works. survival of the fittest. Unfortunately today political correctness and victim points take priority.
@@davidgalea6113 We are not Barbaric anymore that is the difference, or do you want the Germans, French, Spanish, Swedes, Russians, Poles, Italians, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, Austrians and Americans to start testing that idea again and start a new bloodshed?
@@davidgalea6113 not so Darwinistic as all that but yes, and it is still going on. How much does China own?
Off topic a little bit but, what is the function of the man at the end of the band who is holding some sort of rod or baton an not an I instrument. The woman in the front is obviously the drum major that is leading the band. Is the man at the end an assistant director that steps in if needed? I don't see him holding a flag, banor, or other symbol other than the aforementioned rod which he is not brandishing or prominently displaying. I'm from the US, so maybe this is a role we'll known in the UK that we don't have?
He's there to beat off any Catholics that try to sneak up behind the band.
He channels Gods hatred of homosexuality
Am I the only still stunned by the fact that Ireland and Britain are divided because of religion?
Eire a nation once again very soon
This makes it seen like they just picked a random band. Those rands are like klan marches. Of course everyone in the bad feels that way.
explain how are they like klan marches?
times are thicc, hang on to peace
Ah yes .. just waiting for some pileck to shout UDF FOREVER 🙄
Why can't you be just people
We need Ulster belongs to Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪☘
One EireLAND
Ulsters-Scotts should return to Scotland, where they came from, darn colonizers.
Part of ulster belongs to the Republic, its only 6 counties that need to be freed.
@DW News "Sinn Fein the political arm of the IRA". Sorry, but to be correct, wasn't the IRA the military arm of Sinn Fein?
Yes but after the 97 when the Good Friday Peace Deal was signed in 98 the members of the IRA who denounced the deal split off and became the Real Irish Republican Army.
The Progressive Union Party who are closely aligned with the British Government have the Ulster Volunteer Force and Ulster Defense Association.
It wasn't that simple, Sinn Fein never had control of the IRA. In fact the IRA didn't have control of Sinn Fein either but there were certainly many overlaps.
@@RazorMouth : Never said it was dippy. But its good to know you like to discuss things you make up in your own head and try to make it seem like someone else said it.
@@briendoyle3823 Learn how social media works, I was replying to the original post 🙄
@@RazorMouth : My bad gowl, and I do know how social media works but thanks anyway. And I will leave my comment because I have a strict policy of not deleting anything.
I view this as incredibly weak journalism, at best. People of RUclips, the issue at hand is complex. It transcends soundbites chosen from interviews with young people from a boarder village. I am sure this misrepresentation has not escaped your awareness. As they say in these parts: "get your finger out DW" and send properly trained professionals if you wish to report on such contentious and potentially inflammatory subject matter. Half a day spent talking to children and the rest of the trip spent doing what?
You're good at calling out things you disagreed, yet you failed to give anyone any facts or information to think otherwise. Epic failure on your part trying to discredit DW's reporting. 🤔
Northern Ireland is Europe 🇪🇺
Is Europe 🤡
As soon as a UI happens that is automatic
Europe isn't a country at this time.
no
@@bjolie78 yes, in NI Remain won with 56%, and btw also Scotland is Europe 🇪🇺
I hope there continues to be peace and prevention of a time like the Troubles, which for some may not know was a time of civil strife and violence.
Eye=Ego*
HOPIUM
PEAce=paxROMANUS
PREventZION
*ti/me=FICTion*
Ww3
Witch*
MAY=asSUMPtion=FANTasy
CIvil=SLAVE
Maybe they should both join Australia and be done with their never-ending bickering.
Go on let's make London Dublin London
sorry london is now londonistan.
@@davidgalea6113 slan
How is that song? You'll never beat the Irish?
Ironic statement from a country that never successfully seized territory.
@@samsonsoturian6013 Ironic you think that's something people should aspire to.
@@seankavanagh7625 As if people on this thread aren't goading Ireland to invade Belfast........
@@samsonsoturian6013 Ireland isn't invading anywhere. It's already ours.
If both sides reformed their slants on religion, it'd be a far better place. The revolutionary changes brought about over 400 years ago, haven't rid the island of Catholic ideology. But, not that the ideology of Protestantism is any better. This is a real shame. Turn the churches into cultural centres of learning and lets make progress. THIS however, will never happen...
This isn't about religion- it's about triumphalism.
Video shows, a white supremacist band marching, by their own admission, through adjoining communities- of a different political party.
I see the band as Republican & the others as Democrats.
If i am not mistaken, catholic ireland has quite a progressive abortion law since last year, right? Anyways, if they can get that done, i can't see them not tolerating protestants. I don't know enough of the history there, but for the english crown was it really that much about relgion or was relgion a way to get territory?
Lol..no surprise why western civilization is degrading into potholes...😂😂
I would definitely vote for less religious delusions, more Reality, especially in this 21st century. ✌
This has nothing to do with religion. This is a legacy of Britain's imperial past
Theres big sid
Half baked journalism
‘How Done is the Past in Northern Ireland’
COMPETITION: Rearrange this statement into something which makes sense and WIN a book on English grammar!
It makes perfect sense to me. It's like asking "How done is the roast?" When it has been cooking for awhile, and you are not sure if it is time to start setting the table to eat. "Done" also means "Over with" or "no longer a part of current life". "That was done during the War.", implies that it is not being done now. Hence, the title implies the question "Are we as far away from the past troubles in Northern Ireland as we think we should be?" (I am from the USA and made a deliberate, but entirely speculative, word choice. I have no axe to grind on either side.)
Maybe it should be "How is the past done in Northern Ireland?". The answer is "same as always".
@@edwardblair4096 spent 16 years on the border dealing with terrorist funding.
A comment made to me went along the lines ...
Old man on the Monaghan Border near Scotstown after a shooting incident (sniper fired on Revenue & subautomatic weapons returned fire).
...
The South (of Ireland) was invaded in 1169 & exited from that in 1923 c.750 years.
The North was ethnically cleansed and settled in the late 1600's (approx 370 years) so we're about halfway there!
Britain used to be the hard man of Europe, so subservience doesn't sit well with the over 50s and "economic prosperity" didn't even come into the equation (and still doesn't). Regarding change, well today's liberal youth are tomorrow's conservative right, and an economic downturn is historically linked to an increase in popularism, so we're probably talking decades not years.
Keep Ulster British.
No, because it's Irish.
DIvide BRITAin!
It's about the cause
The elected government in northern Ireland should decide its future... rather simple I know... oh wait, which party is currently the largest...
Imagine actually caring about nationalism and religion in 2022. 🤣
We all do. Including you.
@@samsonsoturian6013 nice to see you are a reader of minds.
@@ares106 Nah, it's just the people who say that turn out to be liars every time.
Imagine wanting to British living in Ireland 😂😂😂
@@shaneryan9040 Except some Irish are Brits
We need to stay together ❤️ we are strong people and united we stand
True that. Ireland needs to be reunited again.
@@doom8082 Ireland 🇮🇪 and England 🇬🇧 United Side by Side as we are the People of Europe 🇪🇺
@@east_coast_ceo1070 Too bad the UK decided otherwise when it left the EU. Sovereignty for me but not for thee.
Get rid of religion and English, problem solved 👌🏻
Dream on boy....it's called nationalism boy...which ur brain never heard about it
You forgot Climate Change. We Earthlings have so little time remaining if we cannot collectively fix the environment of this Planet we trashed.
This has nothing to do with religion
@@mijicmugendo : Yes and No. While religion played a motivating factor in the beginning it is now just about heritage and recognition. Unfortunately the RIRA / IRA and UVF / UDA are nowhere close to seeing eye to eye. And to many Protestants see themselves as British subjects now that they don't want a united Ireland. Its such a difficult subject.
It’s that genocide?
Strange how some people think an island should be run by one government except when the island is Great Britain...
Strange that you think Westminster cares about anyone other than Southern England.
@@seankavanagh7625 How many MEPs would an independent Scotland have in the EU?
@@Iazzaboyce No idea, even if it's one they'd still be listened to more than the SNP are in Westminster.
@@seankavanagh7625 Scotland would have around 10 MEPs in a EU parliament of around 700 MEPs. Scotland has 59 MPs of 650 MPs in UK parliament. I don't think any MEPs get 'listened to' - they just get told how to vote...
@@Iazzaboyce 59 MP's who aren't listened to unless they tell you what you want to hear. Basically worthless.
No one will be crying too hard on the mainland if NI chooses to leave the UK. It's incredibly costly to pay for. I do wonder when someone is going to tell the Germans that they will have to pay the massive fiscal payments that the UK currently pays to NI, because it would bankrupt Southern Ireland.
Germany would have an understanding for having to pick up the slack on a mismanaged part of a partitioned state, they have been rebuilding east Germany for a few decades and will no doubt be happy to help if it is required
Southern Ireland isn't a term unless you're referring to Cork. Also like you said, not your problem anymore. Don't worry about it 👍
Mainland???? Is this numpty referring to an island as the mainland?
@@KinchasaurasRex it’s just a British view from Britain, typically larger islands or continents can be referred to in this sense but yeah take your point.
Have heard it made about small islands off the Irish coast
Tbh it is sinn fein bringing the past into the present. The people of n. Ireland have already said very clearly, they won't learn Irish as it is a waste of time, they won't break from the UK for personal reasons I do not know but sinn fein only talks about reunification, they don't support sinn fein because the head of the party is associated with the IRA who if you remember is the group killing the northern Irish based on religion and loyalty (nigh on genocide). Who would want to be ruled by that kind of political party that has known and confirmed ties to a UN recognised terrorist organisation?
Quite clearly you are as guilty as they are of bringing up the past then kiddo.
As much as I dislike Sinn Fein at least it has been moderating since before the peace agreement. Not to give them any more credit than that.
As for Irish people do actually and actively want to learn it or have it taught, bunscoils have never done so well before which is a great sign for preserving culture
🤔
It doesn't.
It does. The Northern Ireland conflict is an ethno nationalist one. The EU was all about subsuming individual national identities into an overarching identity of European. That was the background to and bedrock of the Good Friday Agreement. Brexit has rendered that decline in importance of conflicting identities and move to a more shared identity null and void. It has holed our peace process below the waterline. We are now back to conflicting identities and our path out of this Brexit created quagmire is difficult to see.
This is when a stronger power should swoop in and unify the island and say f-- your feelings. Move to England if you are so British. The world is so tired of the meaningless fighting that would have been solved ages ago over such a trifling area. There's a reason Russia sold Alaska to the US. Not worth the hassle.
Hahaha your dreaming.
No. A new Ireland is only possible by respecting the rights of those who wish to maintain their British citizenship in Northern Ireland, just as how Irish people in Northern Ireland today are (mostly) able to claim Irish citizenship (the British government have not fully honoured the Good Friday Agreement provisions).
"A stronger power" - Russia or China?
@@michaelhalsall5684 elon musk
👍
Half of germany belongs to ussr... A few millions of russians waiting inside germany for putler army to celebrate :))) ahahahaha
We have to give no quarter to their attempts to link themselves to the men and women who fought our revolution over a century ago.
Taoiseach of the Provisional Republic of Ireland
Beal na Blath Micheal Collins Centenary
Sunday August 21 2022
He was speaking of Ulster people..riding his gob off !.shocking to hear that ignorance from a so called leader in Ireland but not surprising given the location the words were spoken .
Under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, “declaring that no quarter will be given” is a war crime in international armed conflicts. The prohibition is contained in numerous military manuals. Under the legislation of many States, it is an offence to issue an order that no quarter be given.
you mean the bootlickers?
Irish people .. will you really continue to do this to your children, generation after generation ?
Shame on you.
Find a good solution now. Work together as one country and make a vote for brittan or for yourself.
Hopefully your children wont have to live their lives in fear.
The problem aren't the Irish, the problem are the occupying power, let them leave the Irish alone!
If we had never joined the EU in the name of "peace in Europe" this would never had been a problem.
how exactly would that have changed anything? Ireland would still have joined and you would still have a EU-Britain border.
Yeah, everyone knows you lot are better at warmongering than peacekeeping. At least you're honest enough to admit it.
@@seankavanagh7625 And "war mongering"...more like piracy
As someone in my 40s from irish side not fussed at all about united ireland all sucks to me the hole thing give me a passport to iran and i would happily take it
I was let out on good friday agreement on 15 counts of murder
What?
EU is the cause of tensions in Ireland. The anti EU protest is growing.
Says a Brit. Ye keep bootlicking the Tories and we still despise ye.
How many roubles do they pay you? You re gonna need a pay raise
Ireanland stay in UK pliz
Sorry, but the majority of Ireland left the UK on Jan 1st 1923. Also, Ulster doesn't (didn't) say no - ⅓ is in the keyed Republic.
And
According to the EU- the British Isles don't exist! 75% of the island of Ireland is an independent country and a member of the EU - no longer owned by Ireland
Ireland is not in the uk
Ireland is not in the uk
Man , you got to study the situation before you write a comment.
@Dubjax 700 years of abuse, ethnic cleansing, destruction of the Irish civilisation - wars of Attrition, and of course Cromwell.
Brexit is not the problem. EU expansionism and vindictiveness is.
No, English stupidity is the problem. Always was actually.
I agree
The British did very well. I hope that Poland will also leave this German "union"
You don't even know what you're talking about hahahaha
Me to. All Poland does is moan and put their handout for money from western taxpayers
Vhut?
By your picture you seem eager to become a US protectorate. Amusing
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the Zulu nation is rising, the most resilient nation of 11 million, after 1000s of years, they will spread the globe and make the world a great place for all, uniting the divided and restoring an equitable world
Climate Change has a totally different plan.
What
They certainly didn't make an "equitable world" during their initial expansion in the late 18th & early 19th centuries before the British arrived...
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Sorry old girl, South Africa and the Zulu's are on the verge of collapsing!
the solution is simple. Ireland should rejoin UK
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So they get another crack at ethnic cleansing us? No thanks. Us and Scotland are better off without ye.
Then the EU should join the commonwealth and become subjects of the Queen of England. Europe's unity solved /s
And Dublin the capital of the new UK.
NI should rejoin Ireland
A recession, calls for Irish unification Scottish independence and the desolution of the UK, a rampant recession, political instability and ravaging strikes but atleast the left the EU
Maybe Wales will stick around with England.
It's all bull. The conflict only exists in our heads
Guess you never heard of the 70s. Things were 10x worse than they are now🤣🤣all these little Europeans
@@tomjones7184 Early days Tom, you're only just out of the EU and what a sh!tfest it already is 🧐
@@setyeva0 said the one who’s gonna rip themselves apart over gas lol