What Happened to the First Electric Vehicles?
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2021
- Between 1900 and 1920 Electric Vehicles were a viable alternative to Gas powered cars. The EV has come back in a big way a century later. With the gaining popularity of EV's around us today are we entering a new era in Automotive history? @AnyHistory
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Thank you for the informative video. Here are a few Electric Vehicle facts.
1) On May 20, 1899 New York City taxi driver Jacob German, driving a battery electric Electrobat, made U.S. history by getting the first speeding ticket in an automobile. He was going 12 mph in an 8 mph zone. He was chased down and arrested by a policeman riding a bicycle.
2) After 61,000 miles, my 2017 Tesla Model S gets an average 3.4 miles using one kilo Watt hour of energy. That is about 114 miles per gallon of regular gasoline equivalent.
Hilarious! Thank you for sharing.😆
I call BS, many say EVs are more expensive.
@@bipolarpunt5721they are and the insurance is double the cost because in ANY accident, if the undercarriage was damaged in any shape or form, the battery has to be replaced. Since the battery costs more than the junk, insurance companies just write it off, hand you a check for what it’s worth, raise your premiums for putting in a claim and send the car to the junk yard.
This video didn't answer the question in the title. I took the title literally, and was expecting to find out where they all went, and why we don't hear about them in collections, etc. From what I remember, New York City had at least one electric ambulance in use by one of its hospitals in 1900. It's too bad that car is no longer around. It would be interesting to see today. The only old electric that I ever heard about is Jay Leno's Baker Electric. There must be more around, but I haven't heard about them.
What about the time Jay had his baker electric out to a restaurant and they thought he was an old woman who took her baker electric there regularly
There was another documentary about this that said it was the invention of the electric starter that killed the electric cars. Before that, the cars had to be hand cranked to start. For some people, that wasn’t an easy task. On top of that, the cars did not have the simplicity of todays cars-turn the key, put it in drive and step on the gas (which unfortunately is about the extent of most people’s driving skills). Those cars had a switch to adjust the points, a manual lever connecting to the carburetor to adjust the choke-to name a few. You actually had to be a little mechanically inclined to understand what the engine was doing to drive the car (IMO makes you a better driver). They tried to go all electric again in 1991 and failed. Now they’re pushing electric cars hard but it’s backfiring because people don’t want them. The ones that are on the road now are the people that bought into a dream and are learning that they’re not as great as advertised. Dealers have them collecting dust on their lots. Even with deep discounts, no one wants them.
Yeah. I was hoping for this too. Where'd they all go? Why are they never found anywhere?
There are amazingly quite a few electric cars still workable. There was never a good enough battery system available. Nor was a cheap extension cord long enough.
There still aren't any suitable batteries available.
I never knew they were that popular way back then.
There is an 1897 electric car at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan.
Great video. Well done on illuminating us to the early history of EVs.
Well done and factual. Thanks.
The electric starter for gasoline cars killed the electric car in the 1920s. Turning a crank by hand was a pain in the butt and most women couldn't even do it. Electric cars were usually marketed and sold to women because there was no crank involved. When gasoline cars could be started with the push of a button woman made the switch to gasoline. Then the market for electric cars pretty much disappeared.
Electric starter helped but it wasn't 'smoking gun' you think it is. What killed electric cars in the 1920s is far more foundational in nature. The fact is you need a source of electricity to recharge your electric car. But that 'source of electricity' the vast majorly of Americans DID NOT have at that time. In the year 1900, 60% of Americans lived in rural areas. Those same areas wouldn't even START to get electrical service until the passing of the Rural Electrification Act of 1936. That means those first electric vehicles were doomed from the start, only being useful for a percentile of customers who live in biggest of cities that had electricity...Meanwhile, those rural customers who could stay up past sundown (due to kerosene powered lamps) could take the same Kerosene, commonly bought at local general stores, to power their converted gas cars.
@@MSWMSW1Yep, if people on a farm wanted electricity back then, it meant either windmill generators and batteries, or carting jugs of gasoline out to the farm for a Delco Light Plant which was a system of a gasoline engine-generator, lead acid battery bank, and automatic charger that would start the engine when the battery voltage dipped. They had 32 volt light bulbs and electric motors for washing machines and feed grinders and stuff.
very interesting
Great. Thanks for sharing this
hi stumbled on your channel very interesting bits of US history we don't get to here much of especially here in uk keep it coming thanks
Thank you!
nice channel man !!! do more videos plz
I would LOVE an antique, or even a repro-antique EV. If we’re talking about bicycles, and golf carts, or similar products for urban transit: THESE would be a BLAST to have and use.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you to save a part of history.
Love historical thing it's bring us now day that we're starting 2 use again 😎🤓
The main problem was a distinct lack of Tesla Superchargers
Even with the superchargers-they cost 💲 to use. It’s still on average 20-40 minutes for a charge-assuming there’s no one already on the charger and you have to wait for them to finish charging before you get your turn.
MAZING
The main problems with EVs are charging times, fire safety and range. Obviously it takes longer to charge a EV than fill a gas tank and lithium ion battery’s are very dangerous if they short out. Small lithium ion batteries In phones, laptops etc are dangerous enough the huge lithium ion batteries in EV can have absolutely devastating consequences when things go wrong.
Good Video. Just a small note: Electric = works with electric energy. Electronic = includes semiconductor technology. So I guess you wanted to say electric instead of electronic.
Electric vehicle, not electronic vehicle!
Thanks for catching that.
Did that add from the Washington times say that was a $300,000 bicycle?
The problem with electric vehicles that still is a major issue. That is to get those long ranges that are discussed you have to keep the speed down to 35mph, something that isn't mentioned often in public. However if you look at the data provided by the manufacturer you see a shitload of (@) in the performance data. Seems as if 35mph is the standard for speed, even though tests have clearly demonstrated you reduce this range by around 40% to achieve 65mph and maintain that speed. Seems as if that helpful @ hides this value. Next is the problem that batteries are chemical devices and ambient temps have a drastic effect on power outputted. Again that faithful @ also mentioned at 70deg, now remember those numbers on your automotive battery that are the same on every battery type know known, only a slight percentage difference between types of batteries is seen. One is max power, measured at 70degF and then CCA Cold Cranking Amperage, measured at 32degf, normally it is about 40% lower. Don't believe me about different styles of batteries being held to this chemical issue, take your portable power tool place it under a set load and measure how long it runs. Now stick your tool/battery in the freezer for say 4 hours and rerun the test. May not be the full 40% less but it is going to be not less than 25% loss and most likely 30%. Electric vehicles are a good thing for inter city operations, as the power production emissions are at the powerplant location vice out your tailpipe. Then since most of the time the speed is 35mph you have greater city drive range. In the winter, Northern Climates, you won't get stuck with a low battery in the middle of nowhere, also remember the heating and lighting are going to be provided by the battery pack. This is why the older electric automobiles died out, simply speed and range at speed, around town they worked excellent on the road they were dismal failures. At first autos were ONLY employed around towns, but then when they hit the roads problems with range at speed became very apparent.
The trucks were good for local deliveries and then charged overnight. The trucks were not meant for a long haul.
Duane Reade HAD a whole fleet of electric trucks-proudly advertised on the sides. Then damn near overnight, they went right back to diesel. My guess is they got thousands of road calls all over the country of drivers stuck (no charge) which means a guaranteed tow because you’re not responding to the vehicle with a small can of electric 😂
You're fabricating a bunch of what you said as you clearly don't own a EV. The MPGe from City to Highway speeds is not a 40% reduction in range. Example 2021 Tesla 3 long range has a 141MPGe City compared to 127MPGe Highway and it has very little effect when the average person drives 37 miles per day and 13,500 miles per year. Even if you drive 180-200 miles a day you still have 100-150 miles of battery to spare in a Telsa Long range. So what if your range drops 15-20% driving at 70-75mph? It does not affect most people as they charge at home when they sleep and wake up to a full charge each morning. I haven't been close to zero % or needed a supercharger in years. Most people only vacation for 1-2 weeks. So what if you need to spend 15-20 minutes a couple times a year at a supercharger? The 50-100 times a year you don't have to drive to wait in line and fill up a gas car spending 8-20 minutes in total more than makes up for it. Having an EV and charging at home is like having your own Gas station at home and you save a bunch of time overall. Also most owners of gas cars don't fill up every day. They average 1/2 a tank so EV's on any given morning average more range. My SRT8 costs $92 to fill and has 250 miles range on a full tank. Tesla more range and $10 to fill..
At 3:03 you refer to an electric motor as an engine. They are motors, unlike ICEs which are engines.
That whole motor-vs-engine thing is ambiguous, at best.
Example: MOTORcycle, MOTORboat, MOTORcar. They all have engines.
A steam ENGINE runs on neither gas or electricity.
I assume gas powered cars were subsidized by big oil since they were looking for alternatives for their oil since the electric light removed the need for oil lamps.
There was a recent interview with Exxon-Mobile and they asked the CEO if everything goes electric, what will happen to the company. He said we won’t even feel it. Plants and factories consume millions of gallons a day.
All of those junkboxes went to the big scrapyard down below.
3:50 "Some countries are prohibiting the " and it only took the planet dying to shake things up. 😪
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Wv water vehicles oh yea
They make them sound alot better and more popular than they actually were.... Truth is that they had alot of problems and they were not popular compared to gas powered engines...
Electric cars were very good quality however, they were not Model T"s.
There was an attempt to revive the Detroit Electric brand but politics…
Blame it on politics. The truth is that it's politics that is behind this misguided attempt to revive the EV Renaissance. While we're at it, let's revive blood letting, horse sweat perfume and corsets.
Stupid people repeat stupid mistakes.
Googe this "cut the ev-cord - electricity kinetic generator"
Who rejected this practical idea visualise 100 years ago?
People were smart back then. ICE cars aren’t broken, why fix it?
In the end, we will return to bycicles and horses :/
You’re probably right. Reminds me of the movie “time machine”. Towards the end of the movie, the world hit the reset button.
E- bike is pretty good
@@mirkojorgovic e-scooters are the only electric vehicles I like.
Back to trolleys then? Belarus and Russia still have them.
What about the Luton fire and others...
Do you think the first electric car has something to do with the great depression
My biggest issue with EVs is still the charging time. Here in the US where many EVs can barely get you between major cities it's just not practical to stop for hours at a time to charge your vehicle. Where it takes me a couple minutes at most to put gas in the tank and continue my trip. And for the love of all that is good, please don't destroy your priceless classic cars by converting them to electric. If you're worried about the environment then please just don't drive them.
Most of the conversions don't require any cutting or welding on the car. You can set the engine aside, install the electric setup, and then revert if you ever wanted to. So you could make an argument that the conversion preserves the engine by not risking it being run, assuming it is stored properly. It's relatively common for collectors to do something similar if they have a numbers matching car. You don't want to risk throwing a rod in the original block and hurting the originality of the car, so you install a temporary substitute engine to allow the car to be driven.
Well, that's for everyone to decide for themselves, I would think ...
Well, to be fair, you want to replace the wirings in the vehicle that's older than 10 years old, so you don't have to chase down the electrical gremlins especially when converting it to EV, especially with the 12 Volts DC power from the high voltage Lithium-ion traction battery pack. A lot of work but worth it in the end.
I have no problem getting between major cities and no I do not have to stop for hours at a time to charge my vehicle. BTW, how much are you pay for gas? Do you realize that 80% of the gas you put in your tank and YOU PAY FOR is burned off as heat because your 19th century technology gas vehicle is only 20% efficient? My fuel cost is 2 cents per mile and it is 89% efficient. I will never go back to gas. Also, I love seeing the old cars that I was driving back in the 60s being converted to electric.
It doesn't take hours to rapid charge an EV, it typically takes about 30 minutes.
Stop saying electronic! They are electric vehicles. Geez.
Well, in his defense, most of the vehicle is electronic which is scary because that means your vehicle can be easily controlled (and/or disabled) by someone else. But yes, you are correct-electric
Its not electronic as there were no electronic components back then - all electrical contractors, relays, resistors and motors.. Transistors still a long way off
First electric motor was in 1834. Google is free.
Semiconductors were developed in the 60s. Google is free
What happened to the electric car? It quickly disappointed the general public and they moved on to internal combustion engine power. Sound familiar, doesn’t it?
They were electric,, not electronic!
You need a trailer for the fire extinguisher😂😂😂.
Electric cars are wonderful for short day-trips anywhere there is reliable electricity and adequate charging, which eliminates most of the nation and all of California.
Sure limits your distance! I'll stick witht the gas engine! Thanks!
Tesla should have named Edison. Tesla had nothing to do with battery nor DC technology.
Early EVs were not as practical as the EVs we have today, especially Tesla cars, is that the Lead-acid batteries are still not as practical as the Lithium-ion batteries we now have (Lithium-ion batteries are several times more efficient than Lead-acid batteries in comparable of charging efficiency and abilities to dump out as much energy as possible), and of course the AC induction motors that Nikola Tesla invented wouldn't be as practical for almost over 100 years as the computer small and fast needed to be able to drive the motors much more efficiently, in term of controlled DC to AC power conversion, wouldn't exist for a good while, at least until the last 10 years only now such EVs with AC powertrain exist.
EVs were an idea that has come and gone. They should have stayed "gone."
Thanks for this. However, at the end you say, "today's electronic (electric) vehicles will be a bridge between petroleum based transportation to one that is more sustainable and reliable in the future" Why is it a bridge? The evolution is here. Polluting ICE powered vehicles are out, modern electric vehicles with ever improving battery tech are in. We already have the sustainable and reliable future and things will only get better. I drive an EV and wouldn't dream of going back to a gas powered vehicle.
Thomas Edison was not an inventor but a buisnessman who saw an item and made it better so he could sell it and make money. Edison was about making money. He did not invent the light globe but made it better.
Stop saying electronic vehicles.
Too bad that the car companies are waking up and seeing how dangerous these explosive bombs are along with how bad they are for the environment. LOL
Car companies can’t sell them. The ones that are on the road now are the people that bought into a dream but are finding out the hard way that they’re not as great as advertised. Just wait a few more years when they fall out of warranty and everyone is stuck with a $20,000 battery replacement
Stop saying that retrofit thing. West world countries you re not allowed anything. A car can only be on public road, if it s homologated, approved by officials. Thats the original engine as any 11 years old understands. That leaves underdeveloped countries.
You re some salesman, if you can sell oldtimer + retrofit in India or Venezuela. So..the market? Domthis as hobby? Pricey. BTW type Proton Saga, a shrunk sedan car of Maleisië is willing to go under price of Koreans and European? Wasn t ever there.
Actually you can at least in the UK anyway it it’s perfectly legal as long as you do it correctly. Obviously you must tell the DVLA (government organization responsible for licensing all drivers and vehicles in the UK) that you have done so and as long as it’s been done safely by a professional then they are usually fine with it. There is also people who convert both classic and modern cars to LPG or Natural Gas which is perfectly legal