How i’d go pro in CS2 asap if i had to start again

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024

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  • @keocs2clips
    @keocs2clips 7 месяцев назад +24

    Incredible video honestly. Just bear in mind that recommending 18yr olds to put 15hrs a day into a 1 in a million career opportunity isn't very wise. I would recomend that imbalance on something a bit more safe (I would recommend this to a guy that is so naturally good that he can get 3.5k+ elo on his own without grinding at all, not to the average lvl 10 that is sweating to maintain 2k elo). Cheers and keep posting.

    • @Leo-uo9lb
      @Leo-uo9lb 7 месяцев назад +2

      Lmao who is getting 3.5k without grinding

    • @keocs2clips
      @keocs2clips 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Leo-uo9lb I'm sure that pros had the skills to get 3.5k on their own without regular aim practice/theory, on mechanics alone.

    • @meandnature6452
      @meandnature6452 7 месяцев назад

      thats like saying dont believe in your dreams

    • @keocs2clips
      @keocs2clips 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@meandnature6452 You can pursue most dreams while not sacrificing your whole life. CS isn't like that. For you to go pro, you need to put in 10k hours.

    • @meandnature6452
      @meandnature6452 7 месяцев назад

      yes but thats like working a full time job for 5 years. so not that much time if your are a pro after 10k hours @@keocs2clips

  • @wingman548
    @wingman548 7 месяцев назад +21

    Nice video, didn't realise how many hours the best were sinking into this game. 14+ a day seems absurd to me. As for the Donk method of grinding a ridiculous amount of pure faceit and doing little theory crafting etc, I feel like this only really benefits someone who has already sunk a ridiculous amount of hours into every map and knows every bit of utility/how to play certain positions.
    I have 800 hours in CS but played competitively in other FPS, I didn't really try to go pro but I definitely committed towards bridging the gap between myself and top level players in OCE. I basically put everything you said in the video into practise; this was basically my routine:
    - 30 mins demo watching - usually pro demo to learn how to play a specific position
    - 15 mins utility prac - the same map/side I watched the demo on I would learn a piece or 2 of utility
    - 20 mins warmup (start with recoil control, would spend 1 week per gun, then refrag to warmup everything)
    - grind faceit
    I did this for 3 months and played about 5-6 hours per day after work, I hit faceit level 9.. and then suddenly just stopped. I haven't played the game for a few weeks now, I just don't know how you guys do it. It doesn't feel fun at all when you bring it to that level and the stress slowly eats you up.

    • @savagecs
      @savagecs  7 месяцев назад +14

      Hey bro, thanks for watching:). I would say the average amount of playtime per day for paid EU players on teams is the same as a normal day job, 8 hours. I think the fact that donk was racking up 6-7 hours more than everyone else is one of the main reasons that he has become so good so fast, remember he's still only 16 years old.
      I know that now he is doing less, the main point in the video was to explain how there can be periods where if you want to get better fast you can up your hours to 12-15 daily which will likely result in rapid improvement, but the amount differs from player to player and depends on your goals. If you have full time work you can't do 15 hours a day obviously, so just maximise your free time and put it into the thing in life that you want to improve at, this could be CS, tennis or cheese rolling.
      Level 9 by 800 hours is extremely impressive and you obviously have a lot of talent (maybe from the other fps games you mentioned that you played). Already you are ahead of 95% of people having a specific routine that you are following, so don't slow down on that. It also sounds like you might have reached a burnout point, so i'd say identify that point (5 hours a day for example) and live just below that point and find what is manageable (for example 3 hours a day). This is different for everyone and will allow you to maximise growth while avoiding burnout.
      Thank you again for watching - hopefully his helped - your comment has given me a lot of ideas that I can make videos about - so stay tuned :D

    • @Lucas_2705
      @Lucas_2705 6 месяцев назад +2

      hey man faceit level 9 is still a great achievment

  • @ByeBaybe
    @ByeBaybe 7 месяцев назад +6

    pushing one's self to the limit is how the base line is increased. the whole thing about extracting info from experienced players is very interesting. one day i figured out. there are some semi-pros that treated me like shit but if i stroked their ego i could get some amazing information. i had a day job working 40 hours in a week, and also played cs 40+ hours a week. worked very hard for two years until i needed to focus on not starving. some people just can't go pro in a sport. at least it's lots of fun!

  • @inferno_au
    @inferno_au 7 месяцев назад +3

    Great video, SaVage! You articulate some simple points that, despite seeming obvious, are actually incredibly difficult to keep in mind as one tries to reach the top.
    Having come back to CS after a 3-year break, I've found it hard to get back into that grind while keeping a stable mindset. This video has reminded me of just how toxic that search for glory really is. It's really no wonder it burnt me out 4 years ago, even though I was improving rapidly. Now, my own return to the game has had me questioning whether or not I want, or even can return to that lifestyle again, especially with a lack of friends who want to chase the dream with you.
    I've dabbled in grinding that much since coming back, and it got me much higher than I was 4 years ago, and I felt like I had caught up skillwise to the people I thought were my equals back then (all without joining an actual team). But with CS2's release, I've felt like I'm back to square one. Who knows, maybe I'll be motivated again once Valve starts fixing issues + releasing content for the game and people start returning. But at the moment, the game just feels hollow, and playing solo feels purposeless.
    Regardless, thanks for the video. I'm probably going to be thinking about it for the next few weeks. I owe you a P250 on pistol-round if our paths ever cross in-game again.

  • @NexusSpace
    @NexusSpace 7 месяцев назад +3

    Agree with the first point 100% didn't realize how impact it was till I tried it myself. Went from 2k to 2.7k elo in 1 month just trying to do the faceit knife challenge. Its still insane tho i was burned out af after 30 days of 12h+ a day crazy the top players do this for years, insane how much you have to sacrifice for a chance to achieve greatness.

  • @NinOyaaa
    @NinOyaaa 3 месяца назад

    The terrible thing is I don't know anyone of more experience than myself personally. Honestly, I'd take any criticism. Hell, they could just outright insult me. The thing is I never know how I am wrong and what's the way to continue improving.

  • @Divinity_vA
    @Divinity_vA 6 месяцев назад +1

    The stay positive point is often overlooked : Just look at NiKo, S1mple, Electronic now in C9. Or even just your own games with randoms, how fast people can tilt when there is one to ruin the vibes and energy. That negative emotions the players i listed above spreads like a wildfire and catches up to the whole team. Heck, look at Vitality, ZyWoo has been calm and collected for the longest and now he's slamming desks and missing shots he's not supposed to, maldpEX non sense is catching up to him and affecting him negatively.
    On the other side we have teams like Spirit, Astralis, Na'Vi, their current roster doesn't even make sense of paper yet they do great and all 5 share the same positive attitude. Astralis vs BIG in Blast Premier when Jabbi messed that clutch in overtime and got frustrated, Device was there within 3 seconds with moral support and they won, S1mple/NiKo would never to put it that way. Spirit are too calm and cheerful. You can see a pattern and the list can go on with old Heroic, new Heroic, VP, FaZe versus teams that have negative environment.

  • @ReDMooNTVV
    @ReDMooNTVV 7 месяцев назад +2

    good point about balance. One doesnt get good without doing it as much as possible

  • @anttoneskola
    @anttoneskola 7 месяцев назад +3

    Algorythm is picking up! Good video!

  • @G0thLily
    @G0thLily 7 месяцев назад +5

    At this point Valve sells you the hopes of a pro career more than a game

    • @camdavis9362
      @camdavis9362 7 месяцев назад +5

      I completely disagree. Most people don't have any intention of trying to go pro whatsoever. The game isn't made in a way that makes esports a necessity. Most players don't watch pro matches at all, most players just get on and queue with friends. Trying to go professional is extremely niche.

    • @G0thLily
      @G0thLily 7 месяцев назад

      @@camdavis9362 This is Valve we are talking about, the company who made Dota 2 and CS, please take a step back and realize how jaded you are, normies play CoD or Fortnite, people who wanna a serious competition play CS or Dota, just because you don't have a competitve drive that doesn't mean the game is made 100% so is easy to watch on Twitch hence selling you the hype of being a pro but I doubt you were around when 1.6 was the main CS, you wouldn't get it if all you know is Source or GO

    • @ethhics
      @ethhics 7 месяцев назад

      @@camdavis9362 I would say going pro is niche yes, but you underestimate how many people are watching or at least know the CS pro tournaments. Do I have friends that actively watch CS majors? Yes. Is that a lot of my friends? No, but nearly all of my friends and even friends of my brother know CS tourneys, the pro players and most buy the stickers and capsules aswell.

  • @artisitccunt
    @artisitccunt 7 месяцев назад +2

    Don’t play esports anymore due to sports but a lot of these things go in sports too

  • @PARISONFIRE
    @PARISONFIRE 7 месяцев назад +4

    reminds me of ol olofmeister interview. he was asked how many hours of dm he plays when he was way better then everybody else and he told him that he plays zero deathmatch. he just grinded pugs all day. wich cumulates in gamesense and so forth. thats the key boys. im in for 3 month now and i do 10 faceitpugs per day. went from lvl 7 to 2.5k faceit eu after not playing fps for more then 7 years or so. its working.

    • @savagecs
      @savagecs  7 месяцев назад +1

      So many examples of players who’ve become so so good from grinding EU pugs - olof, m0nesy, zywoo, donk. I think it improves every aspect of your game if you play enough of them and use them as practice and not a yell simulator.

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 7 месяцев назад

      Hey Im not super familiar with CS, wdym by "pugs"? Is that competitive matches with randoms?

    • @PARISONFIRE
      @PARISONFIRE 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@miguelpereira9859 yeah its faceit competetive 5v5 with randoms

    • @jam1ecs
      @jam1ecs 7 месяцев назад

      @@miguelpereira9859 means public games, i think other games call them pubs

  • @azebm47
    @azebm47 6 месяцев назад

    first few seconds into the video and i see you just went straight to the point, very cool, no intro no bs, love it

  • @aaronbong
    @aaronbong 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this video, I didn't know people are spending THIS much time into the game. I am on a journey to CS2 pro as well but it's very hard to find the "balance" between life and games. But what you said kinda clicked for me, there has to be an imbalance in this case. Thank you!

  • @agentofgnar
    @agentofgnar 7 месяцев назад +1

    A lot of this speaks to me really heavy. I got super lucky in GO and got put on my friends IM roster as a lvl4 faceit shitter and basically had to speedrun getting good enough because we qualified for main that first season. Hours and focusing on my problems everytime were massive helps on improving and I kinda need to go back to the drawing board with all the changes cs2 has brought

  • @aNc1esta
    @aNc1esta 7 месяцев назад +1

    This chanell starting to be gold mine :D, thanks for sharing these things.

    • @savagecs
      @savagecs  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you anc1esta, i really appreciate this message:D many more videos this year that you will hopefully enjoy:)

  • @ElfishguyAUS
    @ElfishguyAUS 7 месяцев назад +6

    I'm going to take these learnings and become the worlds best Rust player

  • @MrRihards09
    @MrRihards09 7 месяцев назад +1

    Shoutout mentioning Kobe Bryant. He's work ethic is second to none, even outside or after basketball. He believed, he worked and he succeeded

  • @AidosTheMan
    @AidosTheMan 6 месяцев назад +2

    Pov u pay no bills

  • @RoflkoCs
    @RoflkoCs 7 месяцев назад +4

    Very nice video James :) Love your work!

  • @crippohippo
    @crippohippo 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this video, I really will implement this into my mentality when playing cs!

  • @babysaleem1
    @babysaleem1 7 месяцев назад +2

    ZywOo is also well documented to only play pugs and never DM, "pugger" used to be an insult but grinding FACEIT is the only way

  • @GlenBeale
    @GlenBeale 6 месяцев назад

    Very good genuine video. I like how in the gaming world everyone is upfront about how much hours they are putting in. In the academia world, a lot of people lie about how much work they put in. Perhaps it's because they don't want people to know that they 'tryharded' to achieve their success. But putting in the long hours to achieve something is so admirable. Much more admirable than the talented guy who only had to put in 1hour daily because well he's talented.

  • @FreeMonstah
    @FreeMonstah 3 месяца назад

    To be honest I can be wrong but depends on the player olof when he was insane and got major wins he didnt play as much as donk he always said he needed a balance of off game life and game life to get good mental. I speak from my experience that if i grind non stop full time 1 week i will be better but the results are not ideal you start tilting getting tired and depressed and cant control that . Everyone is diferent we should learn but dont copy.

  • @Rex0
    @Rex0 7 месяцев назад +3

    Hard work always beats talent when talent doesn't work hard - this is true in almost every aspect of life.
    But it's always important to learn:
    - Your own limits (burnout will ruin you)
    - HOW you learn and how you can learn more efficiently
    - Where to go to get better (who to watch/what to practice)
    - etc...
    Great video, love the points and the commentary around them. You're very well-informed and you talk very professionally about the realities of trying to go "pro" in any game/sport. I'll be sure to apply them in my own path to whatever I can achieve in CS2 :)

    • @savagecs
      @savagecs  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you bro, I really appreciate your comment, you have some very good points there. If you have both talent and hard work then the sky is your limit.

  • @ccomboxdd
    @ccomboxdd 7 месяцев назад +2

    nice video savage :D keep it up

  • @Hostobi
    @Hostobi 6 месяцев назад

    w take, i needed someone to tell my 20 year old self these, maybe i would've gone somewhere

  • @theLasermans
    @theLasermans 7 месяцев назад +3

    I dont fully agree with you just have to play that much. There is a saying "practice makes perfect" but I think "practice makes permanent" is more accurate. If you put in the hours but dont learn the correct stuff, you will go into a routine of doing the incorrect stuff, you have to also be activly thinking of what you are doing and praciticing if you arent a prodigy.

    • @savagecs
      @savagecs  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hey, you make a very good point. Although putting the hours into something you love and want to become a professional at is the first step, refining what you do during those hours is the most important step.

    • @theLasermans
      @theLasermans 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@savagecs you are right!:)

  • @whosTage
    @whosTage 6 месяцев назад

    I agree with all of this but incase of Donk and other athletes i think it comes naturally and they really want to do it which make it easy, i have always been very competitive and i could play day in day out everyday and it didn''t feel like i had to because i need to get better i just wanted and if you don''t have that need or want to do something day in day out its very hard to force it. So imo its kind of stupid to think that its so hard for some athletes and its all about mindset when in reality for some of the most successfull people it comes naturally and its something they do willingly every single day its not like working a job. And ofc everyone is different but some people make it out to be like everyone has equal chance if they just work hard enough when some people just enjoy doing it 15 hours a day and some people don''t.

  • @CycloidalHeadache
    @CycloidalHeadache 7 месяцев назад +2

    please put regular gameplay w dubs or something, this is the most dreadful background visual ever. Im positive theres clips of this kid playing that you could run in the background instead of staring at walls in an empty server.

  • @FreeMonstah
    @FreeMonstah 3 месяца назад

    Can you tell me how to find a mentor ? I have 10k plus hours but I think Im in a platou I need a experiencie player to guide me . Where ? How?

  • @aNc1esta
    @aNc1esta 7 месяцев назад

    I think you could also mention, that is good to make a content is good in a longterm, organizations want this most of the times you are basically promo them, if you have high viewcount, at least I am thinking like thath.

    • @savagecs
      @savagecs  7 месяцев назад

      Hey anc1esta, you’re 100% right, content is super important for longevity and orgs love it. I might make a video explaining it more in depth but people don’t realise how powerful content can be for their careers, no matter what field.

  • @MC1000media
    @MC1000media 7 месяцев назад +3

    I used to play cs at a pretty high level, i knew people who played 10-15h a day for years, and never got that good, even against good competition. But the people who are kissing ass and not doing the work got pretty high up

  • @cottys
    @cottys 7 месяцев назад +1

    I’m around ~10k and I do similar things to you in aimbotz, where would you place DMing in this routine?

    • @savagecs
      @savagecs  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hey cottys, General rule of thumb is to DM when your feeling it and aimbotz when your not. More specifically I’d say maintain the schedule that i set out for you in my previous video and slot in 30mins of dm once your daily aimbotz training is finished. Hope this helps:)

    • @cottys
      @cottys 7 месяцев назад

      @@savagecs ty

  • @QueequegCS
    @QueequegCS 7 месяцев назад +2

    look at the camera when you talk blud

  • @spencerrestoule
    @spencerrestoule 7 месяцев назад +1

    Theres only one problem with what I hear Is that no one cares.
    I know It's a hard truth but at the same time you made It seem like that no one cares 100%
    This kinda fucked with me Into thinking none of my friends cared about what I did when I was wrong.
    I'm not mad at you or the video, I'm just saying It would be less confusing If you said that "No one 100% cares" Or "No really wants to hear that 24/7"

  • @PainHustle
    @PainHustle 7 месяцев назад +1

    Good video, bro! very inspiring video. Is it too late for me to start? (I'm 26 years old, and I don't want to give up.) I've been playing CS for years now, and grind is all I need.

    • @savagecs
      @savagecs  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks man. If you look at traditional sports - many athletes are reaching their peak at age 35+ - djokovic, messi etc. So i’d say there isn’t any age limitations until you get to 40+ and your peak can be found in your late 30s. Hope this helps, thanks for the comment:)

    • @PainHustle
      @PainHustle 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, it really helped, bro. I hope you don't stop making this type of content. also wishing you the best, and I hope we succeed.@@savagecs

    • @jam1ecs
      @jam1ecs 7 месяцев назад

      im 18 and asking myself is it too late hahah its crazy tho like donk is 16

    • @savagecs
      @savagecs  7 месяцев назад +2

      @@jam1ecs If you look at other traditional sports many athletes are peaking at age 35+. You’ve got 17 years - go for it.

  • @qweqwe_Flinstone
    @qweqwe_Flinstone 7 месяцев назад

    no one sane on mind would play that much without cheats. Many pro players cheated in the past which gave them more knowledge about game mechanics by manipulating them using cheats 🙂

  • @ruleset
    @ruleset 7 месяцев назад

    yes, you will actually learn more by just playing and learning what you see ingame than looking at a lot of tutorials and learning too many lineups etc, you just need to play a lot, unless you're doing something very bad for example you have no idea how to shoot accurately after a year of playing, then somebody needs to tell you about counter strafing lol
    15 hours a day is just unhealthy though, there is no way he lives on his own, as a normal individual or an adult if you want to go pro take care of yourself and learn to manage your time

  • @cheetman1
    @cheetman1 7 месяцев назад +1

    this is a lot of work for a game designed to extract wealth from youngins, valve isn't worth this effort.

  • @maxuli21
    @maxuli21 6 месяцев назад

    I wouldn't call yourself a professional if you make less money than it requires to make a living, which looking at your winnings I assume is true, you'd make a lot more at McDonalds.

  • @user-zc9ws7yu9t
    @user-zc9ws7yu9t 6 месяцев назад

    donk is noone rightnow, he just a prodigy with 0 achiements. comaping kobe to him is not right