I don't know how some of you guys assumed that this video was me suggesting that "You should go into the wilderness with bank risk" but yeah, it wasn't suggesting that. Don't bring items to the wilderness you don't want to risk. Feels like what I'm saying is obvious, but apparently not. Don't go to the wilderness with any item's you don't want to lose. This is me going into the wilderness with max gear because I want to make it interesting. Again, don't bring item's to the wilderness if you don't want to lose them, that includes being unskulled with any +1's. Anyway, hope you enjoyed the video and I'll see you soon with another :).
@@spectre722 is that considered unfair or something? There's literally a prominent setting in-game to remove the ability to skull ???? Something something ezscape
@@berdyderg900 No there isn't, there's a setting that completely removes the ability to attack other players. You either completely surrender your ability to fight back, or run the risk of getting skull tricked. This is part of the reason why people hate the wilderness.
@@berdyderg900 So either you let them kill you with 0 chance to fight back. Or you risk getting skull tricked for attempting to defend yourself. That's the entire reason no one risks fuck all. There is no incentive to fight back.
My problem with the wily bosses is that the only viable tactic to kill them is this glitchy-ass safespot method. Definitely not how Jagex intended them to be killed.
Hard part is when they're in the open wilderness with a set wander radius, safespotting will always be a viable option. Don't think it needs to be the only viable option to solo, but it'd be hard to make it not an option entirely
@@RIAN10287 yeah and if jagex fixes one safespot some nerd players just find a new way of safespotting and people will catch on and it will be ruined by safespotting again
Framed: Risk vs reward just deal with it, its how the wilderness is supposed to be. (pker framed) Also Framed: This boss is so poorly put in the hot spot of the wilderness where pking is active, they need to rework it so it's better. (pvmer framed)
I think he was referring to the mechanics. I think callisto’s defense is too high and I think they safe spot meta is dumb. The rewards aren’t worth killing it in teams like the bosses are designed for
Yeah but the bosses aren’t designed very well nor are they really fun since they have a lot of broken/buggy mechanics. They’re actually going to redesign them later on in the year (so they say) so we will see then. Personally I think the real fun comes from the risk of being pked which is why I wanted to do this
@@FramedYT but you’ve minimized the risk by utilizing safe spots that aren’t supposed to be there, Making it extremely easy for you to teleport or log out. Ruining the point of the wilderness, no wonder no one goes there anymore. Dragon pickaxe is 4m and you safespot so you can tp. Why would pkers bother
the teams in the wilderness are exactly why pvp is dying, not complaining about being killed in the wildy as a pvmer or whatever as i know the risk. but it's not fun trying to solo pk and having a 10 man clan dump all their specs on you.
It’s ridiculously easy to tank singles in the wildy lol. Just look up common npc aggro spots and ull be fine. If ur at chins tank to hobgoblins and get a box on one of them, wildy altar go to ankous, etc.
Lmao not all of us can sit at home and play osrs all day to get all our gear back. It's not even about losing the gear in the wildy honestly, it's about giving those mouth breathers satisfaction of getting free money. I only go to wildy for master clues, and I bring 3 items and still get pked for bones. It's not that I'm scared of the wilderness, it's that it's a legit cesspool of window lickers that don't let you finish shit.
People don't think the wilderness sucks because they don't want to risk/reward. They think it sucks because of shady tactics used by PKers like skull tricking and calling in a 10 guy squad to kill 1 person doing a boss
'Corp isn't in the wilderness and you can tele out so, uhmm, that isn't a wildy boss sweety' Kills 1000 kbd without leaving the area that isn't in the wildy and that you can tele out of. K then.
Framed: no one is forcing you to go into the wilderness Also Framed: they need to rework those bosses, terrible mechanics NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO FIGHT THESE BOSSES
@@MeatSacked Even the pkers don't risk shit in multi as you saw most of them were in xericians. If you risk anything in multi it is your fault if you lose it. Everywhere else is pretty safe though unless you suck at tanking or are on a pure account.
actually, its the same these days. If you have 2 top tier pkers go 1 v 1, like in most DMM tourny or Oda's tourny, the finalists are both down to their last brew doses. Ultimately its rng. Whether it was a 75 korasi anti-rush spec back then, or a 82-48 ags/gmaul 1 tick current day. It's always been rng. Kevin hit it on the head, entitlement.
@@dannyocean4055 "if you have two top tier pkers gp 1v1" lmao. You and framed are wrong. Pets are a pvm achievement. To get them all people are FORCED to go into the wilderness, and into multi! So now pvmers who want to pvm, and who constitute a majority of the players, are supposed to go through multi way pvp to get their pets? No. The solution is make all wilderness bosses like kbd and corp are already. Then make pvp worlds that are locked to pvp Hotspot like edgeville and GE and let the pvpers play around there. Cat and mouse pvp is bad for the game, it splits the player base, and it's not enjoyable. You a good pker? Go fight other pkers.
The problem with calling people "entitled" that want the wilderness stuff without the risk of dying is: 1: Jagex put an account type in the game that literally cannot die or its over 2: Jagex put BIS PVM gear and BIS skilling gear in the wilderness. THESE TWO POINTS ARE HUGE CONTRADICTIONS. I guess by your logic HCIM arent ever meant to get mage cape 1 or 2, or d picks?
@@jbess04 yea! and im having a blast with it, just the logic of "dont come in the wildy if you dont want to risk dying" falls apart when mandatory PVM gear is placed there. I dont want to be in the wildy, but when PVM gear is there i dont have much choice. Seems pretty shitty design wise! Edit: Just to be clear, I play HCIM for the challenge of trying to do all the PVM i can without dying. This is kinda the whole point of the account style. PKers say "dont come in the wildy if you dont want to risk dying" Jagex says "gear you need for PVM is in the wilderness" This is a massive contradiction.
@@jbess04 yea so im talking about the Mage Arena capes. Its the only real magic cape option for end game as its the only ones that gives magic damage, and it gives more magic attack than anything else, on a scale of nearly triple
Why not just report and move on? I been called bad words for training on goblins. Same for being in someone slayer spot. You blaming the content or the players? And if you don’t like it, with the exception of mage cape (like +1 max hit) there’s no utility items from wildly? Maybe clues?
I love how people always make this argument as if people don't insult you for doing almost anything in this game like going to a contested piece of content. Also "dangerous boss" is a good joke considering the actual threatening bosses in the wilderness all have extremely easy and exploitable safe spots that you can learn in a minute.
I've noticed that removing the world hopping limit has made the wilderness extremely cancerous. One group of 3-4 pkers can cover every single server all by themselves within 5-10 minutes. It's completely unplayable on the pvm side of things when every boss gear setup doesn't even stand a chance against salad robe pkers on top of risking a skull trick.
Using a dinhs and black d hide w torags legs you can tank just about any team as long as your not dog shit and have brews/restores lol salad robes and pures are an easy getaway
@@wyattneville7672 For one the sotd spec is way more useful than the bulwark especially in multi, but regardless if you get caught in multi you're probably just dead anyway.
@@PastryScent yeah but it only lasts for 60 sec, if you get fulled youd rather have the bulwark for the 5 min tank and it honestly depends how coordinated they are and their rng on hits. Ive tanked 6 and 7 man teams in multi for a minute then got to singles to tank the rest of the tb plus theres monsters all over the wildy that you can run to to get a box or to make them hit the pkers its honestly pretty easy to tank any team unless they have max sets or theres more than 10 of them
As a player, I literally just wanna do more clue scrolls. getting wilderness steps doesn't increase my reward or satisfaction at all, it just slows me down and makes me have less fun because I need to re-gear and risk my clue (because clue boxes are also locked behind pvp content now). If I die on a wilderness step, people who kill me get nothing, I lose my clue, and we both waste our time (unless they really liked pking a naked dude for 0 loot.) The fact that clue hunters could theoretically have loot on them doesn't factor in to this interaction. So why is this good game design, if every time I do a wilderness clue step, it leads to less fun for everyone?
@@Alfairyman1 did you think about this before you posted it? if I don't do wilderness clues I forfeit all the steps I've already done, and have to go get a new clue. so it's just less fun in a different way. if that's your best solution, then it sounds like wilderness clues are, in fact, kinda shit
@@MeatSacked He literally tells you not to bring ANY risk into the wild and turn off attack options in his skull trick videos. He cannot possibly be a hypocrite when he followed exactly his own rules (well after he died once).
He tells you to keep attack options off in his skull trick videos, and he kept attack options off during this video. He only died once with any risk and never skulled. I don't see your problem?
Trial of the sword is nothing like the wilderness. A terrible comparison, really. Safe death, lose nothing but some time if you die, a reward that gives some extra damage output. Trial of the sword is literally a Zelda version of fight caves.
@@peachposting They can still log under him or tb him if he looks away a single second. If you wanna get mad about safe spots then bring that up with Jagex.
Jagex have literally gone on record saying the wildly bosses are too hard normally and are balanced around safe spots. Have you ever tried one without a safespot?
@@jaxrammus9165 Typically accounts that optimize their offensive combat capacity at the expense of others. Most often the stat left untrained is defence but it happens with prayer and hp and sometimes even attack.
There is a HUGE difference between your comparisons though... Runescape has the unique mechanic that you lose everything you are carrying (- 3 or 4 items) when you die. No other game that I know of has that mechanic to such a severe scale. You can throw yourself at that challenge in BoTW for hours and hours because you respawn with all your stuff. You don't have that privilege in osrs. You die and then have to spend hours upon hours, days upon days, months upon months to get your items back just to have a CHANCE to try wilderness activity again... While I agree that I like the wilderness for what it is and don't want it changed, you are comparing apples to oranges and it's a completely unfair comparison.
"Locked to the wilderness" - Isn't locked to the wildy at all "In absolute max gear" - Dies once and gives up on the idea "Does a 2-minute monologue about people not being willing to risk gear" - Joins the initiate gang real quick KEKW
@@Mister_Clean I don't talk on twitch it just infiltrated my life. :c Not my fault this video was mediocre and a lot of comments are pointing it out lol. If he skipped the nonsense at the start and the clickbaiting title and just did a video starting with "Imma try kill shit in the wildy wearing max" it woulda been a great video but just like you don't want 'twitch lingo' invading RUclips I don't want shitty video making practices to spread from garbage channels to the ones I respect.
@@Devugly 'Nitpicking' when the things I have issue with are kind of the whole point of the video? One of the points is literally a complete lie which is the title of the video. I'm not saying it's a big deal, but it's not like we should ignore it and not bring it up either.
Though with the wilderness argument, you're totally skipping the fact that this is a multiplayer game where people abuse anything they can. Ie: The clans protecting certain skilling/pvm places in wilderness for cash. Risk and reward is a good system, but there's a lot of problems with the wilderness as the risk factor doesn't come from hard npc's, but from other people, that behave unexpectedly.
Skiller tears everywhere, you people are the worst. There is plenty of zulrahs and infernos to kill for you already. Less than 10% of the game content is in pvp area and you wanna take even that away cause "people take advantage" of game mechanics... Literally only reason protection for cash works is because people like you rather pay for it than deal with other players. I do agree that wilderness bosses have some of the worst designs in game, but they are in pvp area and that itself should always be the risk. If not, its just another giant mole for you to kill brainlessly. You need to have speacial level of entitlement if you wanna take away content from others if you personally dont like it.
Your "oh you chose to step in the wilderness so don't complain about PKing" take is just the standard PvP "risk v reward" meme that doesn't address the actual problem. There are three scenarios for your average player in the wilderness going in there: >I get killed for a spade/100k in bones/whatever negligible amount which wastes time and is basically just greifing. >I bring gear to do a bossing activity and then get rushed by 10 pures risking 30k each. >I do wilderness slayer on a mid level main and get jumped by a dedicated PKing account. Neither of these have any risk for the PKer aside from accidentally running into other PKers. The risk is all on the non-PvPer side. The typical retort is "Well just anti-PK" like someone's level 70 stats main using broad bolts has ever killed anyone -- when has that ever happened lmfao
Then don't go in the damn wilderness..... There doesn't need to be risk for the pker when he's trying to kill a pvmer. Why should they have to risk? Why are you doing a boss? To make money? To have fun? That's what pkers are doing. They enjoy pking, there is nothing wrong with that. They don't know if u have noted bones or not or what kind of bones u have so they kill everyone they see. And as for anti-pking, ur not meant to use broad bolts to anti pk the person. Bring a gmaul switch and ud be surprised at how little they expect it. Use your brain ffs
@@Sidoxenized >bring a gmaul switch and ud be surprised how little they expect it yeah my 70 melee main doing slayer is going to combo out a 99 range/mage pure lmfao when has that ever happened >then don't go in the damn wilderness epic response great game design to lock content behind getting greifed by specialist accounts built for killing you on your generalist account built for playing the game
@@Sidoxenized also as a follow up >There doesn't need to be risk for the pker when he's trying to kill a pvmer simultaneously >Don't whine about going in a risky area and dying the absolute state of pvpers
I like how he says he's going for a wildy pet to prove a point, but ends up camping the safe one and uses an alt to walk through the wilderness for supplies lol
My biggest complaint about the Wilderness is the people that patrol it constantly. They can be very entitled. I got pked once doing a clue and the dude PMd me to complain that all I brought in risk was a spade and some Karambwans. Like, who the fuck do these kids think they are. I check my death risk screen before taking a single step in wildy to check it's not over like 10k.
Your comparison to BotW is a bit lacking. The gauntlet monsters don't exploit the game's mechanics to kill you; if you die there, it's your lack of skill or execution. Going to the wildy is a choice, but it's also the choice of many people to exploit the very nature of the wildy. Bad mechanics are bad mechanics. and as long as things like skull tricking are things that people try to do, your comparison will always fall flat.
Acting like every single person with any criticism of wildy content is just "entitled" is a pretty piss poor take, tbh. There are legitimate criticisms. Just because not every Average Joe redditor has them doesn't mean everyone is equal to the least common denominator.
@@joshr4257 actually, I just finished 85-99 prayer in nothing but a weekend of wildy altar. It was pretty sick, and honestly more fun than poh altar. I just don't think someone who breaks the skulling mechanic by taking none of the risk and all the reward doesn't have the right to turn around and claim that other people feel entitled to rewards with no risk. You don't get to discard legitimate criticism becuase of a straw man.
@@TheL0rd0fSpace if you get skull tricked, you did something mechanically wrong. It’s happened to me, but I’m not gonna get butthurt and cry over my stupidity lol. I laugh it off and think, damn they got me but why the fuck did I fall for that lol.
@@zc630 it used to be worth it but the osrs team killed pking content. look how dead it is now compared to when people knew about rs solely from pking vids back in the day
@@Hadrian77 It never was worth it for normal players. Maybe for clans and good pkers, but the bosses were buggy from day one. The rest of the content is so outdated and replaced by better gear that it's not even worth doing unless you're an ironman in need of a dragon pickaxe.
Lmao that was me at 17:52, if I had actually spotted framed in pretty much max str, in multi, in deep wilderness I think I would have noped it out of there expecting it to be a lure
The devs have literally gone on record stating the wildly bosses are too hard to do normally and are balanced around safe spots. Go try killing one without a safespot if you're so hard
@Theodore Jenkins The only wildy boss that is that overpowered is Venanatis. I have killed them the hard way and the only reason I don't use these safe-spots is because there is no fun in that to me...no real rewarding feeling...I did not comment to bash players for taking the easy route and do not blame anyone for taking advantage of something that can't really be changed overnight. I love this guys content and have mad respect for what he has done for himself and this game. But I had to say something about the similarities in his rant and how the rest of the video basically went.
Completely missed the point, he means the people who complain about wanting to complete all pvm pets but need to be in the Wildy, or that mage cape 2 which is bis is in wildy
Lmao, shits on irons for not wanting to risk their hard earned drops, while only playing main accounts so he never actually risks anything he cant get back at the GE
@@TheFriskySquid No for sure, Im not saying he's gotta play on an ironman to be valid. I just mean, it's funny he talks about risking when a main is never REALLY risking like an iron does.
your "don't do risky content if you don't want to do the risk" argument falls apart when you factor in the type of risk that each scenario is... hear me out in non-pvp combat when you die your items are returned to you at a cost of unlocking your gravestone, but in pvp combat if a player kills you they get your items and you are required to re-acquire those items entirely because they dropped as loot for the person who killed you. if i die with a very large amount of risk in non-pvp combat the most i have to pay to get back to where i was before the death is 500k, but if i die to pvp combat i lose 100% of the value of the items that i didn't keep on death. this is the difference you're ignoring when you called people entitled, and also doesn't include some of the major problems with pvp combat in the game and skull tricking. people who may have legitimately tried to fight back and learn how to pvp are now massively dis-incentivized to do so if they are aware of that risk additionally, the higher risk that comes from pvp areas is that there are people out to put you into an unfair situation such as having teams, having items that combo you out faster than you can heal, and being geared for the boss instead of fighting other players. yes, i very much understand that you can gear yourself properly for both situations but at the cost of not being able to more efficiently kill the boss that you were there for in the first place. usually people going to fight a boss are not there to fight other players, and vice versa i know i've probably lost you at this point, but the recent death changes actually made me be more willing to bring higher risk to the wilderness because a death where i lose 500k even in non-pvp situations now makes me more willing to bring 500k risk into the wilderness as well because it feels like an equivalent setback. this is how jagex can get players like myself to be more accepting of the wilderness in my opinion. i believe that the reason why people were less afraid of the wilderness back in the rs2 times is because death wasn't a mult-million gp risk. gear prices have drastically changed but the loss of gear on death hasn't Thank you for attending my TED Talk
@@Sirsipeed It'e basically just the concept of not risking what you don't want to lose/can't afford to lose. If you go into the wilderness and your only risk is black d'hide and some monkfish, you aren't really risking anything. If you go in with max ranged gear, you should be ready to lose it all
@@ElysianAura yes, that's exactly what i was saying in my comment. people take minimal risk into the wilderness because if they die they lose their items instead of having to pay a fee for the items they didn't protect. that's why people don't like to take risk into the wilderness, because it's far more expensive to die with the exact same equipment when you're shoehorned into taking worse gear then the boss takes longer to kill and hits you harder in return. this ultimately makes the content less fun to do and less profitable. the greatly additional risk isn't worth the additional reward in every case for wilderness bosses
Super new to Framed, but is it common knowledge that Framed loves Zelda hahaha! Pretty much every video I've seen has a Zelda theme there! Not complaining, it's very nostalgic and I love it!
And yet it’s pkers constantly complaining that they can’t access content because they choose to make accounts that don’t have certain stats and then cry about how it’s not fair
lmfao like what? you don't list specific examples because its just a garbage strawman, the only people that cry about not being able to access content are cringe iron helmet boys. nice reddit story u got there timmy
thank you bro im fairly new at this not at the game but at bosssing in general which i mean this shit has helped me out tremendously bro so good job and good editing bro
I go into the wilderness for a clue with l it literally nothing but a spade and the clue and there is always some nooby virgin pker who decides to attack me
The issue people have with the wilderness isn't entitlement, it's the unbalanced dynamic of Pking right now. Between skull tricks, spearing, and exploits you have to be so hypervigilant, one tick equals you lose everything. Also the fact that every single wildy boss is completely cheesed with safe spots is kind of depressing.
Don't bring items into the wilderness you dont want to lose, attack options off, spearing bug has been fixed for a while now, and I agree that every boss needs to be reworked into something that is more mechanics based as opposed to just having raw power and slapping you silly if you dont safespot it
nope, its entitlement, and has always been. people want all the wilderness rewards to be moved to a nice and safe area because they dont want to get pked, Runescapes pvp has always been the same, always had skulltricks and all the other mentions. it really is that simple, if you dont wanna risk something in the wild, dont bring risk, if you dont wanna get pked, then dont enter at all, its just like framed says in the video, its a concious choice you make to enter. if you die, thats on you and that is never going to change.
hey i know you're done with it but a helpful tip at vet'ion. during the dog phase, stand at the stump below the 2nd tile its in 30 wildy, and you're able to seed pod it quick :D im sure you already know but i just had to share it lol keep coming with the content brother! cheers!!
I really love Framed's new video style for a new months now. He explains things to a level that non-players or new players can easily understand, but that's not at the expensive of long-term players.
yeah, even as a long-time player I enjoy these detailed explanations. The worst thing for me is when a video is about something that I don't understand, and the video just goes into the subject without explaining the basics, so I'm there like "ok..? what does that mean...?"
Diffrence between dying in zelda and in the wilderness. In zelda i just have to do it again with minimal loss except to the challenge itself. In the wilderness I lose that PLUS whatever gear is on me. I don't mind the pk'ing aspect of it. I do mind the losing all my stuff aspect of it
It's not a matter of not taking what you don't want to lose. It's the fact itself that I can lose anything that I might have wordked hours to get, in just a minute to a pk'er. Even when risking nothing, and just dying to pk'ers, it's just an annoyance. You lose nothing, just a big waste of time for you. The pk'er gets nothing, a big waste of time and resources for him.
@@Curu if the only thing there was just pk'ing gladly, sadly the best in slot mage cape can only be earned in deep wildy. Like 10% of clue scrols take you to wildy. Even some quests take you to wildy. Saying "just don't go then" is easy. Fact is there is a lot of content in the wildy, wich is either locked away for people who don't want to risk it, or a mayor annoyance to do for those that do risk it. I could just as well say: wanna pk? You got dedicated worlds for that!
Breath of the Wild did have save points for the master sword trials, and at every big step the sword became more powerful. At least know what you're saying before spouting it out.
Is it weird that I actually enjoy the being hunted aspect of being in the Wilderness? For instance, I usually hate skilling, but I really enjoy doing Black Chins
@@trae4571 not weird, there are all kinds of Games like this. But this isn't a survival horror game, it was intended for you to be able to fight back but you will get multi logged skull tricked faster than you can thinj
I don't know how some of you guys assumed that this video was me suggesting that "You should go into the wilderness with bank risk" but yeah, it wasn't suggesting that. Don't bring items to the wilderness you don't want to risk. Feels like what I'm saying is obvious, but apparently not. Don't go to the wilderness with any item's you don't want to lose.
This is me going into the wilderness with max gear because I want to make it interesting. Again, don't bring item's to the wilderness if you don't want to lose them, that includes being unskulled with any +1's. Anyway, hope you enjoyed the video and I'll see you soon with another :).
@@spectre722 is that considered unfair or something? There's literally a prominent setting in-game to remove the ability to skull ????
Something something ezscape
@@berdyderg900 No there isn't, there's a setting that completely removes the ability to attack other players.
You either completely surrender your ability to fight back, or run the risk of getting skull tricked.
This is part of the reason why people hate the wilderness.
@@Thougar ??? You can set it to right click only, this is LITERALLY a get gud issue (I don't pvp by the way and even I know this shit)
@@berdyderg900 So either you let them kill you with 0 chance to fight back. Or you risk getting skull tricked for attempting to defend yourself.
That's the entire reason no one risks fuck all. There is no incentive to fight back.
@@mikehawk8065 am I getting trolled or do you actually not understand the mechanic you're complaining about??
Torvesta: spends months trying to get malediction shard on hcim
Framed: first kill - "well this is worthless"
lol, watched that video, poor guy, the stress is real !
My problem with the wily bosses is that the only viable tactic to kill them is this glitchy-ass safespot method. Definitely not how Jagex intended them to be killed.
Agreed, particularly when soloing
Hard part is when they're in the open wilderness with a set wander radius, safespotting will always be a viable option. Don't think it needs to be the only viable option to solo, but it'd be hard to make it not an option entirely
They are looking to rework them
@@RIAN10287 yeah and if jagex fixes one safespot some nerd players just find a new way of safespotting and people will catch on and it will be ruined by safespotting again
@@amcub give the boss a ranged ability that automatically hits you if you hit the boss 3 times without it hitting you.
Runescape, but I'm locked to the wilderness until...
I go back to the grand exchange and restock.
Hahajaha
Bringing more supplies on my alt account(dragon claws)
Yeah pretty pathetic honestly
Framed: Risk vs reward just deal with it, its how the wilderness is supposed to be. (pker framed)
Also Framed: This boss is so poorly put in the hot spot of the wilderness where pking is active, they need to rework it so it's better. (pvmer framed)
No kidding. Not to mention the groups that rushed him are all salad robes and yet he wants to scream about risk
I think he was referring to the mechanics. I think callisto’s defense is too high and I think they safe spot meta is dumb. The rewards aren’t worth killing it in teams like the bosses are designed for
doesn't it kinda take the fun out of these bossfights if you just use a glitch that prevents the boss from even attacking you?
It would if the bosses were any good in the first place! LOVE your vids btw
Yeah but the bosses aren’t designed very well nor are they really fun since they have a lot of broken/buggy mechanics. They’re actually going to redesign them later on in the year (so they say) so we will see then.
Personally I think the real fun comes from the risk of being pked which is why I wanted to do this
@@FramedYT fair point, hopefully the boss reworks make them much better fights!
Sure does
@@FramedYT but you’ve minimized the risk by utilizing safe spots that aren’t supposed to be there, Making it extremely easy for you to teleport or log out. Ruining the point of the wilderness, no wonder no one goes there anymore. Dragon pickaxe is 4m and you safespot so you can tp. Why would pkers bother
the teams in the wilderness are exactly why pvp is dying, not complaining about being killed in the wildy as a pvmer or whatever as i know the risk. but it's not fun trying to solo pk and having a 10 man clan dump all their specs on you.
facts, they should make whole wildy singles+ like they did to rev caves..
@@Stoff_Rocks_Packs The wilderness is supposed to be dangerous, not a fair dueling battleground.
You're mad bc you don't have nerdy friends to jump ppl. Otherwise you'd love it. Stick to pvm you Tim Allen cowboy. W0w
It’s ridiculously easy to tank singles in the wildy lol. Just look up common npc aggro spots and ull be fine. If ur at chins tank to hobgoblins and get a box on one of them, wildy altar go to ankous, etc.
I personally don't like facing teams in the wilderness either which is usually why I don't go in too often myself
Lmao not all of us can sit at home and play osrs all day to get all our gear back. It's not even about losing the gear in the wildy honestly, it's about giving those mouth breathers satisfaction of getting free money. I only go to wildy for master clues, and I bring 3 items and still get pked for bones. It's not that I'm scared of the wilderness, it's that it's a legit cesspool of window lickers that don't let you finish shit.
Lmao spot on.
Frames next video: Real life! except im locked out of the bathroom until...
Until I get my wife a pet
@@FramedYT wait your wife isnt your pet? i messed up i better get mine out of the cage
@@felipeg8520 boo
@@FramedYT I’m in the same boat, pal.
@@felipeg8520 that was shit
the entire intro was justification for his skull tricking videos lol
All I heard was him whining about not being able to trick noobs to make videos.
"i'm locked to the wilderness" - Framed in Grand Exchange
😂😂
SHHHHHH
Framed: Creates skull tricking content
People: get fed up with wilderness and what is basically jagex approved scamming
Framed: :O
People don't think the wilderness sucks because they don't want to risk/reward. They think it sucks because of shady tactics used by PKers like skull tricking and calling in a 10 guy squad to kill 1 person doing a boss
Can’t edit my comment because well idk I’m on my phone I guess. But I hope you know what I meant.
Exactly, fuck getting 5 manned
Then don't go to wilderness easy just like he said.
'Corp isn't in the wilderness and you can tele out so, uhmm, that isn't a wildy boss sweety'
Kills 1000 kbd without leaving the area that isn't in the wildy and that you can tele out of.
K then.
Framed: no one is forcing you to go into the wilderness
Also Framed: they need to rework those bosses, terrible mechanics
NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO FIGHT THESE BOSSES
"In absolute max gear until I get pet"
*dies once*
*grabs the initiate* After complaining about risk :')
That boss sucks tho, risk your own shit
@@MeatSacked Even the pkers don't risk shit in multi as you saw most of them were in xericians. If you risk anything in multi it is your fault if you lose it. Everywhere else is pretty safe though unless you suck at tanking or are on a pure account.
@@MeatSacked u literally don't know anything
@Chris Camez alright, so why is Framed complaining no one brings risk in wildy?
@@goblingenesislv5 At no point have I ever complained that people don't bring risk into the wilderness lmao
Bruh wildy back in the day was basically a toss up on who would win a fight. Shit was very different back then..
True but some of the fights I watch now are next level. It’s cool to see how far people have advanced the mechanics of this game
@@Goodvibez_live unless one person wasn't ready to get teleblocked and barraged in place
actually, its the same these days. If you have 2 top tier pkers go 1 v 1, like in most DMM tourny or Oda's tourny, the finalists are both down to their last brew doses. Ultimately its rng. Whether it was a 75 korasi anti-rush spec back then, or a 82-48 ags/gmaul 1 tick current day. It's always been rng.
Kevin hit it on the head, entitlement.
no it was not lol that were way bigger clans like Aggression then there is now. Aggression use to login in on you with over 100 people
@@dannyocean4055 "if you have two top tier pkers gp 1v1" lmao. You and framed are wrong. Pets are a pvm achievement. To get them all people are FORCED to go into the wilderness, and into multi! So now pvmers who want to pvm, and who constitute a majority of the players, are supposed to go through multi way pvp to get their pets? No. The solution is make all wilderness bosses like kbd and corp are already. Then make pvp worlds that are locked to pvp Hotspot like edgeville and GE and let the pvpers play around there. Cat and mouse pvp is bad for the game, it splits the player base, and it's not enjoyable. You a good pker? Go fight other pkers.
The problem with calling people "entitled" that want the wilderness stuff without the risk of dying is:
1: Jagex put an account type in the game that literally cannot die or its over
2: Jagex put BIS PVM gear and BIS skilling gear in the wilderness.
THESE TWO POINTS ARE HUGE CONTRADICTIONS.
I guess by your logic HCIM arent ever meant to get mage cape 1 or 2, or d picks?
@@jbess04 yea! and im having a blast with it, just the logic of "dont come in the wildy if you dont want to risk dying" falls apart when mandatory PVM gear is placed there.
I dont want to be in the wildy, but when PVM gear is there i dont have much choice. Seems pretty shitty design wise!
Edit: Just to be clear,
I play HCIM for the challenge of trying to do all the PVM i can without dying. This is kinda the whole point of the account style.
PKers say "dont come in the wildy if you dont want to risk dying"
Jagex says "gear you need for PVM is in the wilderness"
This is a massive contradiction.
@@jbess04 yea so im talking about the Mage Arena capes. Its the only real magic cape option for end game as its the only ones that gives magic damage, and it gives more magic attack than anything else, on a scale of nearly triple
Yeah except in Zelda I don’t get called the n word after getting ganked by 6 enemies while trying to fight an already dangerous boss
Wait....is zelda multiplayer now
Why not just report and move on? I been called bad words for training on goblins. Same for being in someone slayer spot. You blaming the content or the players? And if you don’t like it, with the exception of mage cape (like +1 max hit) there’s no utility items from wildly? Maybe clues?
I get flamed playing chess online
I love how people always make this argument as if people don't insult you for doing almost anything in this game like going to a contested piece of content. Also "dangerous boss" is a good joke considering the actual threatening bosses in the wilderness all have extremely easy and exploitable safe spots that you can learn in a minute.
@Not a merc btw nothing competitve about the wild
I've noticed that removing the world hopping limit has made the wilderness extremely cancerous. One group of 3-4 pkers can cover every single server all by themselves within 5-10 minutes. It's completely unplayable on the pvm side of things when every boss gear setup doesn't even stand a chance against salad robe pkers on top of risking a skull trick.
Using a dinhs and black d hide w torags legs you can tank just about any team as long as your not dog shit and have brews/restores lol salad robes and pures are an easy getaway
@@wyattneville7672 For one the sotd spec is way more useful than the bulwark especially in multi, but regardless if you get caught in multi you're probably just dead anyway.
@@PastryScent yeah but it only lasts for 60 sec, if you get fulled youd rather have the bulwark for the 5 min tank and it honestly depends how coordinated they are and their rng on hits. Ive tanked 6 and 7 man teams in multi for a minute then got to singles to tank the rest of the tb plus theres monsters all over the wildy that you can run to to get a box or to make them hit the pkers its honestly pretty easy to tank any team unless they have max sets or theres more than 10 of them
As a player, I literally just wanna do more clue scrolls. getting wilderness steps doesn't increase my reward or satisfaction at all, it just slows me down and makes me have less fun because I need to re-gear and risk my clue (because clue boxes are also locked behind pvp content now). If I die on a wilderness step, people who kill me get nothing, I lose my clue, and we both waste our time (unless they really liked pking a naked dude for 0 loot.) The fact that clue hunters could theoretically have loot on them doesn't factor in to this interaction. So why is this good game design, if every time I do a wilderness clue step, it leads to less fun for everyone?
So don't do the wilderness clues. Problem solved.
@@Alfairyman1 did you think about this before you posted it? if I don't do wilderness clues I forfeit all the steps I've already done, and have to go get a new clue. so it's just less fun in a different way. if that's your best solution, then it sounds like wilderness clues are, in fact, kinda shit
Your BotW analogy doesn’t hold up. Because in a game like that I’m not losing things it took hours to get and the combat system isn’t shit.
Half your videos are about how to skull-trick people, and now you're confused that people don't want to expose themselves to that bullshit?
This.
Skulltricks are the IQ test of the wilderness
@@MeatSacked He literally tells you not to bring ANY risk into the wild and turn off attack options in his skull trick videos. He cannot possibly be a hypocrite when he followed exactly his own rules (well after he died once).
Cry more
He tells you to keep attack options off in his skull trick videos, and he kept attack options off during this video. He only died once with any risk and never skulled. I don't see your problem?
Trial of the sword is nothing like the wilderness. A terrible comparison, really. Safe death, lose nothing but some time if you die, a reward that gives some extra damage output. Trial of the sword is literally a Zelda version of fight caves.
when
well, Items cost gp, and gp can literally be translated to time with Gp/hr. Whenever you die in the wildy, you're indirectly and directly losing time.
"There must be risk for there to be true reward"...."So if I stand here the boss can't attack me..." *ahh I see*
There is risk, a risk of dying to pkers...
Nick half of the safe spots he uses, he can instantly log out before they can even get close enough to attack
@@peachposting They can still log under him or tb him if he looks away a single second. If you wanna get mad about safe spots then bring that up with Jagex.
Jagex have literally gone on record saying the wildly bosses are too hard normally and are balanced around safe spots. Have you ever tried one without a safespot?
"ventures into the wilderness"
"dies"
well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my actions
@@hiidenkiuas thats a problem disconnected from the wilderness
Dying at how disgusted you sounded when you said “oh it’s pures”
Whats pures?
@@jaxrammus9165 1 DEFENCE ACCOUTNS
@@jaxrammus9165 Typically accounts that optimize their offensive combat capacity at the expense of others.
Most often the stat left untrained is defence but it happens with prayer and hp and sometimes even attack.
lol yeah he says it so nasally, too. Then again he says everything nasally, but that one was was really bad.
No one worried about pure untill thr 107 max 25 def accs log in
There is a HUGE difference between your comparisons though... Runescape has the unique mechanic that you lose everything you are carrying (- 3 or 4 items) when you die. No other game that I know of has that mechanic to such a severe scale. You can throw yourself at that challenge in BoTW for hours and hours because you respawn with all your stuff. You don't have that privilege in osrs. You die and then have to spend hours upon hours, days upon days, months upon months to get your items back just to have a CHANCE to try wilderness activity again... While I agree that I like the wilderness for what it is and don't want it changed, you are comparing apples to oranges and it's a completely unfair comparison.
Escape from Tarkov does!
Framed: Just don't do it if you don't like it
Also Framed: Why doesn't anyone go into the wilderness?!!
“You’re not here to experience RuneScape, RuneScape is here to experience you...” -J1mmy
im so good with words its crazy
@@J1mmy oh sheeeeit
Just go for all wildy pets. You want the wilderness active, make it active. Let people know it’s your new series.
i wanna go in the wildy i wanna fight people i dont wanna fight teams in singles and i dont wanna get skulltricked. apparently i am asking too much
"Locked to the wilderness" - Isn't locked to the wildy at all
"In absolute max gear" - Dies once and gives up on the idea
"Does a 2-minute monologue about people not being willing to risk gear" - Joins the initiate gang real quick
KEKW
Keep your gay Twitch lingo off other platforms
@@Mister_Clean I don't talk on twitch it just infiltrated my life. :c
Not my fault this video was mediocre and a lot of comments are pointing it out lol. If he skipped the nonsense at the start and the clickbaiting title and just did a video starting with "Imma try kill shit in the wildy wearing max" it woulda been a great video but just like you don't want 'twitch lingo' invading RUclips I don't want shitty video making practices to spread from garbage channels to the ones I respect.
@@Mageofpie I can agree with that much. Sorry for being bitter.
Imagine nitpicking a runescape video and hardly making any meaningful point
@@Devugly 'Nitpicking' when the things I have issue with are kind of the whole point of the video? One of the points is literally a complete lie which is the title of the video.
I'm not saying it's a big deal, but it's not like we should ignore it and not bring it up either.
Locked to the wilderness until I TP out
Though with the wilderness argument, you're totally skipping the fact that this is a multiplayer game where people abuse anything they can. Ie: The clans protecting certain skilling/pvm places in wilderness for cash.
Risk and reward is a good system, but there's a lot of problems with the wilderness as the risk factor doesn't come from hard npc's, but from other people, that behave unexpectedly.
Skiller tears everywhere, you people are the worst. There is plenty of zulrahs and infernos to kill for you already. Less than 10% of the game content is in pvp area and you wanna take even that away cause "people take advantage" of game mechanics... Literally only reason protection for cash works is because people like you rather pay for it than deal with other players.
I do agree that wilderness bosses have some of the worst designs in game, but they are in pvp area and that itself should always be the risk. If not, its just another giant mole for you to kill brainlessly. You need to have speacial level of entitlement if you wanna take away content from others if you personally dont like it.
You know you’ve made a good point when people respond with ad hominem instead of actually addressing any of your arguments.
Your "oh you chose to step in the wilderness so don't complain about PKing" take is just the standard PvP "risk v reward" meme that doesn't address the actual problem.
There are three scenarios for your average player in the wilderness going in there:
>I get killed for a spade/100k in bones/whatever negligible amount which wastes time and is basically just greifing.
>I bring gear to do a bossing activity and then get rushed by 10 pures risking 30k each.
>I do wilderness slayer on a mid level main and get jumped by a dedicated PKing account.
Neither of these have any risk for the PKer aside from accidentally running into other PKers. The risk is all on the non-PvPer side.
The typical retort is "Well just anti-PK" like someone's level 70 stats main using broad bolts has ever killed anyone -- when has that ever happened lmfao
The guy skulltricks people then complains about people not wanting to go to the wildy lmao
Then don't go in the damn wilderness..... There doesn't need to be risk for the pker when he's trying to kill a pvmer. Why should they have to risk? Why are you doing a boss? To make money? To have fun? That's what pkers are doing. They enjoy pking, there is nothing wrong with that. They don't know if u have noted bones or not or what kind of bones u have so they kill everyone they see. And as for anti-pking, ur not meant to use broad bolts to anti pk the person. Bring a gmaul switch and ud be surprised at how little they expect it. Use your brain ffs
@@Sidoxenized >bring a gmaul switch and ud be surprised how little they expect it
yeah my 70 melee main doing slayer is going to combo out a 99 range/mage pure lmfao when has that ever happened
>then don't go in the damn wilderness
epic response
great game design to lock content behind getting greifed by specialist accounts built for killing you on your generalist account built for playing the game
@@Sidoxenized also as a follow up
>There doesn't need to be risk for the pker when he's trying to kill a pvmer
simultaneously
>Don't whine about going in a risky area and dying
the absolute state of pvpers
@@phonyname5307 >goes into the wilderness, an area of the game designed to allow players to attack each other
>calls it griefing
lmao, cry some more
I like how he says he's going for a wildy pet to prove a point, but ends up camping the safe one and uses an alt to walk through the wilderness for supplies lol
Have not played in years, but this popped in my feed, I really enjoyed this. Grats on your drop, that was super cool you deserve it
My biggest complaint about the Wilderness is the people that patrol it constantly.
They can be very entitled. I got pked once doing a clue and the dude PMd me to complain that all I brought in risk was a spade and some Karambwans.
Like, who the fuck do these kids think they are.
I check my death risk screen before taking a single step in wildy to check it's not over like 10k.
Nice content framed. Thanks for what u do. This mustve took a minute. I also got the chaos pet like a week ago from fanatic. Seriously nice bro
246kc btw fanatic
Your comparison to BotW is a bit lacking. The gauntlet monsters don't exploit the game's mechanics to kill you; if you die there, it's your lack of skill or execution.
Going to the wildy is a choice, but it's also the choice of many people to exploit the very nature of the wildy. Bad mechanics are bad mechanics. and as long as things like skull tricking are things that people try to do, your comparison will always fall flat.
If I took a shot every time framed said 'wilderness' I would have gotten pked irl
Puke Killed irl
Acting like every single person with any criticism of wildy content is just "entitled" is a pretty piss poor take, tbh.
There are legitimate criticisms. Just because not every Average Joe redditor has them doesn't mean everyone is equal to the least common denominator.
Spoken like a man scared of the wilderness.
As if those people don't exist though? He is clearly addressing the people with the more extreme opinions
@@joshr4257 actually, I just finished 85-99 prayer in nothing but a weekend of wildy altar. It was pretty sick, and honestly more fun than poh altar. I just don't think someone who breaks the skulling mechanic by taking none of the risk and all the reward doesn't have the right to turn around and claim that other people feel entitled to rewards with no risk.
You don't get to discard legitimate criticism becuase of a straw man.
@@TheL0rd0fSpace if you get skull tricked, you did something mechanically wrong. It’s happened to me, but I’m not gonna get butthurt and cry over my stupidity lol. I laugh it off and think, damn they got me but why the fuck did I fall for that lol.
The wild doesn't have rewards good enough for me to bother with it, so I don't.
Yeah seriously, what's this "high risk high rewards" shit? Black chins and salamanders are like the only worthwhile things to grind in the wildy now.
@@zc630 it used to be worth it but the osrs team killed pking content. look how dead it is now compared to when people knew about rs solely from pking vids back in the day
The only high risk high reward thing that ever existed was rev caves and jagex killed them after it has become the basement of RWT clans.
@@Hadrian77 It never was worth it for normal players. Maybe for clans and good pkers, but the bosses were buggy from day one. The rest of the content is so outdated and replaced by better gear that it's not even worth doing unless you're an ironman in need of a dragon pickaxe.
@@kirayoshikage4057 Old revs was High reward with minimal risk. All you needed was one of the ranged weapons and black d hide.
Lmao that was me at 17:52, if I had actually spotted framed in pretty much max str, in multi, in deep wilderness I think I would have noped it out of there expecting it to be a lure
Only wildy till you get rekt by VHS gang
Love how you had that big rant at the beginning then proceed to safespot wildy bosses 😂 MASTER SWORD AQUIRED! Congrats on Nimbus!
The devs have literally gone on record stating the wildly bosses are too hard to do normally and are balanced around safe spots. Go try killing one without a safespot if you're so hard
@Theodore Jenkins The only wildy boss that is that overpowered is Venanatis. I have killed them the hard way and the only reason I don't use these safe-spots is because there is no fun in that to me...no real rewarding feeling...I did not comment to bash players for taking the easy route and do not blame anyone for taking advantage of something that can't really be changed overnight. I love this guys content and have mad respect for what he has done for himself and this game. But I had to say something about the similarities in his rant and how the rest of the video basically went.
Framed stop being mad the wilderness is dead, if the game is about choice then let people choose to wear no risk
Completely missed the point, he means the people who complain about wanting to complete all pvm pets but need to be in the Wildy, or that mage cape 2 which is bis is in wildy
the i mahatma i clip hit the feels
BEVERLY HILLS
Framed, I just started OSRS and your videos are so nice to watch when skilling/grinding!
Lmao, shits on irons for not wanting to risk their hard earned drops, while only playing main accounts so he never actually risks anything he cant get back at the GE
When did he do that
Maybe he wanted the pets on his main? I mean crazy idea right?
@@TheFriskySquid No for sure, Im not saying he's gotta play on an ironman to be valid. I just mean, it's funny he talks about risking when a main is never REALLY risking like an iron does.
20 mins?! you finally came to your senses and gave us something cool!
your "don't do risky content if you don't want to do the risk" argument falls apart when you factor in the type of risk that each scenario is... hear me out
in non-pvp combat when you die your items are returned to you at a cost of unlocking your gravestone, but in pvp combat if a player kills you they get your items and you are required to re-acquire those items entirely because they dropped as loot for the person who killed you. if i die with a very large amount of risk in non-pvp combat the most i have to pay to get back to where i was before the death is 500k, but if i die to pvp combat i lose 100% of the value of the items that i didn't keep on death. this is the difference you're ignoring when you called people entitled, and also doesn't include some of the major problems with pvp combat in the game and skull tricking. people who may have legitimately tried to fight back and learn how to pvp are now massively dis-incentivized to do so if they are aware of that risk
additionally, the higher risk that comes from pvp areas is that there are people out to put you into an unfair situation such as having teams, having items that combo you out faster than you can heal, and being geared for the boss instead of fighting other players. yes, i very much understand that you can gear yourself properly for both situations but at the cost of not being able to more efficiently kill the boss that you were there for in the first place. usually people going to fight a boss are not there to fight other players, and vice versa
i know i've probably lost you at this point, but the recent death changes actually made me be more willing to bring higher risk to the wilderness because a death where i lose 500k even in non-pvp situations now makes me more willing to bring 500k risk into the wilderness as well because it feels like an equivalent setback. this is how jagex can get players like myself to be more accepting of the wilderness in my opinion. i believe that the reason why people were less afraid of the wilderness back in the rs2 times is because death wasn't a mult-million gp risk. gear prices have drastically changed but the loss of gear on death hasn't
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Look up the first rule of investment
@@ElysianAura care to elaborate?
@@Sirsipeed It'e basically just the concept of not risking what you don't want to lose/can't afford to lose. If you go into the wilderness and your only risk is black d'hide and some monkfish, you aren't really risking anything. If you go in with max ranged gear, you should be ready to lose it all
@@ElysianAura yes, that's exactly what i was saying in my comment. people take minimal risk into the wilderness because if they die they lose their items instead of having to pay a fee for the items they didn't protect. that's why people don't like to take risk into the wilderness, because it's far more expensive to die with the exact same equipment
when you're shoehorned into taking worse gear then the boss takes longer to kill and hits you harder in return. this ultimately makes the content less fun to do and less profitable. the greatly additional risk isn't worth the additional reward in every case for wilderness bosses
Super new to Framed, but is it common knowledge that Framed loves Zelda hahaha! Pretty much every video I've seen has a Zelda theme there! Not complaining, it's very nostalgic and I love it!
“This isn’t a guide” that was actually the simplest and easiest Vennanatis guide I’ve found.
I tried the safespot today it doesn't work
@@robertturni2845 you have to use a magic shortbow or craws bow or it wont work
Loved the video, Framed! Would be really happy to see a part two where you grind more wildy bosses for those pets!!
I subscribed because of that "button" thing you did. Made me laugh
All the Zelda sound tracks in this video make me so happy! ☺️
Just sounds like typical pkers crying about the game going into a direction they don't like.
Can’t imagine why a person would hold this opinion.
IDK how u and Jimmy light up your recent thumbnails but 10/10. Also, a really high quality intro Framed, gj!
pog
And yet it’s pkers constantly complaining that they can’t access content because they choose to make accounts that don’t have certain stats and then cry about how it’s not fair
lmfao like what? you don't list specific examples because its just a garbage strawman, the only people that cry about not being able to access content are cringe iron helmet boys. nice reddit story u got there timmy
Great video would love to see more wilderness vids like this
Breath of the wild has considerably tighter controls and is not internet dependent lol
thank you bro im fairly new at this not at the game but at bosssing in general which i mean this shit has helped me out tremendously bro so good job and good editing bro
I go into the wilderness for a clue with l it literally nothing but a spade and the clue and there is always some nooby virgin pker who decides to attack me
How are they supposed to know what's in your inventory, quit moaning
You could have your cash stack on you or a shit ton of teleports. Has all happened before my friend killed a clue scroller for 62m cash.
I've wanted to make a video about some of these points. Glad you addressed them here. We need more people speaking up for the wildy.
This is a joke pls take it down. Lock in wilderness and tele out when there's pkers? WTF.
I feel like the Legend of Zelda part was just a way for him to rant about his frustrations. 😂
I am once again asking for Halo 3 content.
yes
Great video Framed, congrats on the pet !
Matched your character's purple shirt and pants.
Good Luck in the Gielinor Games 2 !
If Skull Tricking was removed you'd be homeless.
Come for the wiley content, stay for the wind waker soundtrack
We all know that was a sneak paid advertisement for Zelda… Quit frontin.
Great vid framed. At Vet'ion you can bring the dogs down to 30 wild so you are able to tele with seed pod if there are pkers.
That small I Mahatma I clip brought back some memories from the old MM and FOE days way back :) fuck me I feel old.
FOE's 16th anniversary is this weekend :). Oldest pure clan left
@@The2006Scaper Oh wow, they are still going?.... nice. Have only just got back into Old School recently having not played for years!
Great video! Love your work :)
Yeah, we here this early.
i love the pet grind content. you'll have your own monster day-care soon enough.
The issue people have with the wilderness isn't entitlement, it's the unbalanced dynamic of Pking right now. Between skull tricks, spearing, and exploits you have to be so hypervigilant, one tick equals you lose everything.
Also the fact that every single wildy boss is completely cheesed with safe spots is kind of depressing.
Don't bring items into the wilderness you dont want to lose, attack options off, spearing bug has been fixed for a while now, and I agree that every boss needs to be reworked into something that is more mechanics based as opposed to just having raw power and slapping you silly if you dont safespot it
nope, its entitlement, and has always been. people want all the wilderness rewards to be moved to a nice and safe area because they dont want to get pked, Runescapes pvp has always been the same, always had skulltricks and all the other mentions. it really is that simple, if you dont wanna risk something in the wild, dont bring risk, if you dont wanna get pked, then dont enter at all, its just like framed says in the video, its a concious choice you make to enter. if you die, thats on you and that is never going to change.
@@FramedYT loser bad video
@@matiusasoffisal3884 you're cool
@@ArmaKiri loser framed fanboy loser
hey i know you're done with it but a helpful tip at vet'ion. during the dog phase, stand at the stump below the 2nd tile its in 30 wildy, and you're able to seed pod it quick :D im sure you already know but i just had to share it lol
keep coming with the content brother! cheers!!
I really love Framed's new video style for a new months now. He explains things to a level that non-players or new players can easily understand, but that's not at the expensive of long-term players.
yeah, even as a long-time player I enjoy these detailed explanations. The worst thing for me is when a video is about something that I don't understand, and the video just goes into the subject without explaining the basics, so I'm there like "ok..? what does that mean...?"
Diffrence between dying in zelda and in the wilderness. In zelda i just have to do it again with minimal loss except to the challenge itself. In the wilderness I lose that PLUS whatever gear is on me. I don't mind the pk'ing aspect of it. I do mind the losing all my stuff aspect of it
Then don't risk what you can't afford to lose, not like you need expensive gear to do anything in the wild
It's not a matter of not taking what you don't want to lose. It's the fact itself that I can lose anything that I might have wordked hours to get, in just a minute to a pk'er. Even when risking nothing, and just dying to pk'ers, it's just an annoyance. You lose nothing, just a big waste of time for you. The pk'er gets nothing, a big waste of time and resources for him.
@@GameOutdoor Then don't go in the wild if you don't wanna die?.. its the 1 place you can get pked, so if you dont like it that much. dont go.
@@Curu if the only thing there was just pk'ing gladly, sadly the best in slot mage cape can only be earned in deep wildy. Like 10% of clue scrols take you to wildy. Even some quests take you to wildy. Saying "just don't go then" is easy. Fact is there is a lot of content in the wildy, wich is either locked away for people who don't want to risk it, or a mayor annoyance to do for those that do risk it. I could just as well say: wanna pk? You got dedicated worlds for that!
@@GameOutdoor And all of those you risk next to nothing, so why are you complaining about losing stuff?
Breath of the Wild did have save points for the master sword trials, and at every big step the sword became more powerful. At least know what you're saying before spouting it out.
Yes please go for every wildy boss pet. Anything to bring more activity to the wildy helps.
This vid missed the mark so hard lol
8:40 why is it so funny how he said "I have grabbed a lot of vials" lol
"if I didn't get the ring it wouldn't have been worth it" xd
The MM music is absolutely not going unnoticed
Talking about entitlement as a skull tricker... That's rich
Skull tricking a few times for a video doesnt make you a skull tricker
Yes keep making these Wildy boss series!!
I thought this was going to be a pvp hcim locked to wilderness... damn it
When he spawns the hellhounds, run down to 30 wilderness (1 tile north of the tree stump) and kill them there
"Gonna kill each boss in absolute max gear"
Gets teamed at Vet'ion and comes back in prossy
So that was a fucking lie.jpg
The last video was about clue scroll and now bosses, damn i love u'r content framed
Predator prey mechanics are not pvp unless pvp stands for player vs. pinata.
Don't be a pinata then, be a pker?
haha congrats on the chaos elly pet!
Is it weird that I actually enjoy the being hunted aspect of being in the Wilderness? For instance, I usually hate skilling, but I really enjoy doing Black Chins
It’s exciting just frustrating
@@trae4571 not weird, there are all kinds of Games like this. But this isn't a survival horror game, it was intended for you to be able to fight back but you will get multi logged skull tricked faster than you can thinj
I love it for the same reason. I've never PKed in my life but I love the wildly
Chaos elemental is the untrimmed cooking cape of pets
[Cries in Virtoso]
osrs players are wimps lmao don't risk what u dont wnna lose
anyway, here's the account i'm luring bosses with from a multi area to singles.
It’s on Jagex to fix these broken bosses
@@teh5408show not the point blake.
@@Kermitable in all fairness he is in lvl 40 wild, he can easily get tb'd/entangled and have to tank 10 lvls of wildy if he didn't get tb'd
this was actually a really cool vid, I support you doing more unique things like this