Im an MMA fighter who also trains Akido, by a 66 yr old master. Im not one to opinionate but I wouldn't be half the fighter if it wasnt for Akido. No style is worthless. Knowledge is power. Any real / experienced mma fighter will tell you this. Remember the days you felt this way for when you walk the path of a fighter it will be a most humbling journey:) gr8 journeys ! (no disrespect meant via comment.)
I would say above most other martial arts aikido because of its philosophy/ideology/spiritual insight heightens one's awareness to levels where one is able to sense danger/aggression/violence and move away, redirect, change the strategy and thus not participate in violence - which is a very base, low level human condition. There is a beauty, elegance and yes practical side to aikido that few martial arts can equal, from destroying to building/developing/promoting harmony. Very sophisticated.
@Leushenko Please realize that aikido is not just learning how to throw someone, but a big part is learning how to be thrown. It's called "ukemi" which translates to something like "the art of falling". So, yes... for many of the techniques, the uke (person receiving the technique) IS going with it because if they did not, they risk being injured by the person performing the technique (called the "nage" or "tori").
@TheShadow4211 And his son, Ueshiba Mitsuteru, is called Waka-sensei, which means young teacher. Back when Kisshomaru-sensei was alive, he was called Doshu, and Moriteru-sensei was called Waka-sensei, and now that Moriteru sensei took over, he is called Doshu. I think the title is transferred upon the death of the previous Doshu, and is given to the successor, as decreed by the previous Doshu.
@Leushenko In order to save the wrist, one has to actively leap over to catch up to the wrist rotation. It is pure skeletal mechanics. You learn fast what happens otherwise, because inevitably we all sustain some injury due to stupidheadedness during fluidity drills. In reality, nobody does leaps. There wouldn't be a fancy landing, just someone's head smashing into a bus stop, or a cracking noise, followed by a yelp, as their elbow is torn out.
@TheShadow4211 As far as I'm aware of, Doshu is the hereditary title given to the successor of any organization that follows the Japanese iemoto system. The founder is usually called Soke, and his successors, or more specific to the iemoto system, his children and grandchildren, will be given the title of Doshu. There's other titles that accompany this title, such as dojocho, kancho, and whatnot. When people refer to Ueshiba-doshu, they usually mean the current head, which is Moriteru sensei.
Aikido is a martial art of self defense.What u learn in dojo is a variations of this art.U might not use everthing that u learned on the street.Few of this basic techniques r very useful but to master & understand it u need to learn variations of techniques(with patience) in this art & it takes 4-5 years to really used it on the street when it is needed.Whatever negative comments about it, i'm sure aikidoka will learn these:1)caution 2)distance 3)reflex 4)speed 5) stability & 6)timing.
You'll see principles of ukemi in techniques like the armlock (hijishime) where the technique will hurt or even break the uke's elbow if they do not do the proper escape to reduce the pressure. Flipping is a technique that allows you to escape throws and joint controls safely. Both nage and uke are doing techniques, with uke doing the best possible escape method from what should be a killing blow. It is stressed that uke must protect himself at all times, and not surrender himself to the nage.
Part of the reason that people doubt Aikido is that a lot of people who practice it don't truly understand what it is. People learn techniques, which are great, they help us learn how our bodies move and how the geometry of Aikido works. But these are just stepping stones. True Aikido does not use techniques, for the idea of 'trying' to apply a technique means that you can be resisted. If you are truly harmonized with your attacker then you are in sync with them, and the technique forms itself.
@Kavafy Imagine your sword is in your belt, or you are drawing/ holding a sword. The reaching for the wrist/ body, which looks like they are just sticking their arms out, is the attacker attempting to control you. As you have a weapon, if they lose focus or control for a second they are dead. Thus, they "keep" coming at him. This can be applied to anyone trying to control/ grab something you have, but, really, trying to apply or think about it out of context is futile.
@btocp I got to sit in on an Aikijitsu-ka for his 3rd degree black belt test. Our top Aikido-ka asked if he could resist a little bit, you know, give the testee a difficult time, and sensei said that was fine. When he did resist, the jitsu guy hit him, half force, enough to stun our guy and complete his technique. No where in our training is there preparations for actually taking a hit. Always ready to fall, sure, but never thinking about actually getting hit. :)
Few, somebody who knows what they're doing... As far as I know, at my own meager level of training, the slap is there to reduce the impact of the roll by acting like a spring or shock absorber, reducing the momentum without damaging yourself by placing whatever energy that wasn't cancelled out by the slap's impact into the muscle/tendon complex instead. Those heal better than broken bones. Sometimes, like in jumping back breakfall, the slap is all you have to stop yourself from dying on the mats
@Leushenko If you don't do the safe responses you end up pretty sore at best, and potentially hospitalized with some of the techniques, particularly the joint-breaks.
Forget the history lessons, forget the battlefield. Appreciate the beauty of the art. Appreciate the timing, the simplicity of the motions. However, if you doubt its validity as a martial art, I suggest you go visit Gakku Homma sensei, in Denver, who was the last live in student with O Sensei. You might learn a thing or three...
I just want to comment on something that might enlighten folks without much Aikido experience. If you look closely at the first throw (ura iriminage), the uke, or the one being thrown, would've had a broken neck from collision with the tatami mats had he not done a proper flying back breakfall. His hand hit the ground first and the whole arm became like a spring, reducing the falling motion and saving himself. He also properly kept his head up, so that it wasn't the first thing that lands.
Please look at the connection a little more closely. It wasn't an attack by uke in the first place, but a block. In this case, uke blocks what appears to be an incoming strike, but it's actually a redirection of the forward momentum of uke's charge. Once the momentum is under control by nage, the throw can be easily applied. Remember that each technique is meant for a different entry strike, whether it be a punch, a grab, or a kick, which will determine both the connection type, and the maai.
@xiealic Moriteru Ueshiba gained the rank of Doshu from Kisshomaru Ueshiba (his father) who gained the rank of Doshu from Morihei Ueshiba (Kisshomaru's father).
@Nate3457 (I'm fairly new, so my answer might not be 100%) but in Aikido, the defender positions himself in a way that is dangerous or confusing to the attacker (e.g. behind him, next to him, or somewhere he can't continue his attack). This makes the attacker vulnerable; he needs to hold your hand to defend himself, and to feel where you are so he can keep attacking. IF he lets go, his attack ends (but less spectacularly), which was the goal anyways. Hope this was helpful.
@aikidoisthebombyeah I just wanted to say that from my experience, your comments make a tremendous amount of sense and are very practical. I totally agree that there is just another perspective that one can only obtain when placed in a scenario that is as close to real as is possible.
Seven Segal's Aikido is quite aggressive and looks so cool, but I guess Master Ueshiba just doesnt want to hurt his students, and theres just such an aesthetic quality about how he does aikido
@GokiGandalf I 100% Agree! The trouble is there are too many ignorant opinionated people out there & the comments will keep coming. I have trained in Wado Ryu, Ju-Jitsu, Wing Chun & Aikido. I believe Aikido has some important core elements that can only help to further enhance the others. There is so many important things that can be taken from all the Martial Arts. To me its about finding out what works for the individual.
aikido is a counter attack and defense martial arts, not attacking martial arts, so they don't using a power to counter attack, counter attack means that we used the enemy's energy or their power to counter them ..aikido is the coolest martial arts ever..
@FearThisChannel Distance doesn't mean far. In fact Aikido is more usable if the opponent is nearer(jiujitsu & judo r from the same roots).What i meant is we 'understand' the distance in between..by understands it, we should reflex. That is when timing comes in..
@harryrackham34 In Aikido, the aim is to subdue as painlessly as possible, and without injury. Quite frankly, it's far easier to hurt or even kill with the techniques we learn, since that's what they were originally for. But what does that achieve? Enemies, vendettas, hatred, and jail? How would any of that be worth it? When you train in martial arts seriously, and not just to mess around on the streets, you inevitably ask yourself these questions. O-sensei found his answer to be: promote peace.
@aikidoisthebombyeah As for the resistance... I wouldn't stay with a school where they don't practice resistance, either. I stayed because I pushed a 2nd degree black belt the way I would push someone in a schoolyard, and ended up upside down in the air, scared as shit, and then there was a bruise on my ass. This was during the first year of training. I also stayed because I saw some people's ability to near-break wrists almost instantaneously, and other interesting things.
@MegaMrname We also shouldn't say bad things about mixed martial artists. They do a lot of the pioneering research on martial arts now, since it's become a lucrative business. I think the rest of the MA community could stand to gain from this as it could lead to an increase in interest of martial arts overall. Also, their research will inevitably lead them to the ancient arts, as they ponder it's effectiveness. Their willingness to learn new styles is a big advantage over the traditional arts.
It may look like a silly dance, but that's because it's a demonstration. This is a great fighting style for anyone willing to give it a shot. As for why aikidokas don't fight in competition, you need to understand that aikido philosophy frowns upon violence. It is better to solve a dispute with solid communication.
@TheShadow4211 However, I don't believe the title Doshu refers to a rank. The Doshu is above, or if you prefer, outside of the Dan system of ranking. This also holds true for founders of other styles of martial arts (Aikido included). The titles aren't really ranks, but a designation of their social hiearchy. The Dan ranking system is really just a relative measure of a Budoka's ability level. Certain titles, like renshi, shihan, and hanshi, are given seperately and not corresponding to any Dan.
@harryrackham34 aikido is not about violence it is about taking the attack of your opponent and blending with it to redirect it. our main intention is not to hurt but to stop.
@7Digit7Gamer7 you don't necessarily even have to throw him to humiliate him. From the second he decides to attack another, he's already humiliated himself
@drkarnov It's a show of technique and fluidity, not as much reality or a REAL world environment. In a real world environment the opponent would just have a broken wrist, not too often will they fly around; only if they have momentum; and Judo proves that it's possible to use momentum to throw people in the air.
While self defence is about stopping the enemy and getting far from the enemy. Isn't aikidou about being in contact with the enemy so we can control him or her through their attacking energies? I read it in a master's published book. and experienced during my short time
As an all-state level wrestler in school, I'd always choose Bottom, then grab their hand with my right hand and roll to the right. It works every time, because I can grab and drop/roll a lot faster than they can do anything else from that position. But understand, it's not using anything "against" them in Aikido. There is no Opponent, though there may be an Attacker, because we are all one. Accordingly, there is no "against," unless you aim to be against yourself.:) Good luck & skills!
@qaiboroville87 I don't think he actually throws you. It's just that your arm is twisted to a point you naturally will jump to ease the pain, thus it seems like he's throwing you. I was on the receiving end of this before. What he is showing in this vid is a demonstration, with his "opponents" able to have proper landing to avoid hurting themselves. In a more practical situation, you'll just be on the floor.
That clapping the floor is it a way of saying: "i recognize that you have deffeated me this round, and that you could easily break my arm in this state"?
i had practiced aikido (until green belt) but currently i'm black belt in karate. I think karate is more effective in several things. Anyway i'm jelaous about how this master move his body, that's great.
Aikido was founded in the 1920's and 1930's. I'd love to see how that "proved itself on the bettlefields" 1000 years ago. Some of the techniques used in Aikido derive from Daitō-ryū Aiki-jūjutsu where credits usually go to Minamoto no Yoshimitsu in the 11th century. But that's a whole other story, and that wasn't "Aikido".
@CheetaReborn Going and trying out a martial art would be a good idea, except for the fact that there are dozens of them. You can't possibly try them all. So looking at video footage seems like a sensible first step. And if you can't point to any examples of what I asked for, despite your apparent affiction for Aikido, then I must conclude that that's because there *aren't any examples*.
@jinsuihito As btocp already noticed, that sure sounds like something you might want to politely ask sensei about - about changing this aspect in your training. O'Sensei is often quoted as saying that Aikido is 90% Atemi (and Prof. Goldsbury has a point when he says that is completely wrong, Aikido is 100% Atemi, even if you don't see them). O'Sensei reportedly also said that there are three places for Atemi: before, during, and after a technique. Also check out George Ledyard on this topic.
I was in a 3rd kyu ranking when i involved in a car accident few years ago.That guy walked out swearing at me & point a finger right up my face.I used only 2 techniques, that was iriminage & tenchinage.Few of the bystanders stop the fight when i was in the middle of doing tenchinage to him.He got bruises & cut on his face(i do not know how & when he got that), it happens to fast but i'm sure he didn't even touch me!Aikido really works, believe me!I'm going to 2nd dan this year.
How do you know that? Did you ever meet one? The one I met trains big police officers, and they're easily over 200 lbs. Gracie and Co. are masters of their arts as well, so now it's down to experience vs. experience, but just talking about fully resisting opponents, we can definately do it, but of course you wouldn't believe it unless you are witnessing it yourself or is the one being thrown. I've given what information I could, the rest you'll need to find out for yourself in real life.
@harryrackham34 Also keep in mind that everyone demonstrating is an expert, so with all that great breakfalls you can't really see any damage, which may seem as ineffective. If an unskilled student were to go up, there would be a lot of blood flying about
Aikido evolved from the Samurai way of the sword,,,, Daito Ryu Aiki jujitsu then to Aikido and the way you practice it is just like holding a sword. Bokken and Jo practice are essentials in Aikido practice as well as Iaido. Extending and developing your center is one of the most important thing in Aikido. You can call it Japanese dance or any name because it looks so graceful.
tell that to most cops and most military personnel in the world. They have all been taught Aikido techniques to use in their very real life situations.
maybe u r wondering if this martial art is effective or not but you'll know if u use it against anyone tries to attack u .... it has very powerful technics .
anyway if someone is soo determined about martial arts that he or she has been learning more stlyes, then that person would certainly be sooo conscious about it that she or he wouldn't talk nonsense without understanding enough. and I think those who really is a martial artist would seek the secrets of the current one instead of commenting without consideration blindly.
That is not my experience. I worked as a bouncer in Phoenix AZ nightclubs for a combined total of eight years. While I have never studied Aikido itself, I have studied and used it's principles and philosophies. I have studied striking styles, and aside from a couple of pushes, never used them in a club. Displacement, counters, joint locks, pressure points, and the occasional throw have all proved very useful in a violent environment. I have never had to explain my actions to a cop or a judge.
@FUBARbyBOOZE So by the way you're explaining, the master is just defending without intend of attacking, while the opponent is just trying to maintain an offensive position and not let go of it. Is that right? I was thinking it was just "for show", but if it's like that, I can understand the reason for going for the hand. Thanks.
Usually you fight with punches and kicks, there are several techniques that allow us to break your arm just with one boxing punch it's pretty efective and you wont have the time to react believe i thought it was bullshit but its not.
@CheetaReborn No, I'm pretty sure no-one called it "Marital" Aikido. If you're going to nit-pick, best make sure you don't make mistakes yourself. As for MMA, you've mentioned it three times and I hadn't mentioned once. Why did *you* choose to bring up MMA? Oh, and finally, if Aikido was "made to protect yourself in the days of the samurai" then it was made about 100 years too late. That's probably why people don't understand it.
I would agree with your comments except where you mention that it was developed to end conflict without harming your opponent. The uke's are not harmed because they know how to fall. Aikido's throws are very circular and therefor an uke can roll out of them easily. If you are not trained in how to fall though you would most likely be hurt from hitting the ground.
@travismccullough1938 I disagree. I've seen it in a real life on the street fight and it worked just fine. The aggressor was dispatched with minimal effort and no permanent damage aside from his pride.
Soldiers used to stand in columns right in front of eachother and fire their rifles...that doesn't mean it's a good idea. Because of MMA and guerrilla warfare we have learned what actually works in hand to hand combat. Even Bruce Lee would get crushed by the elite martial artists today.
And also that if Aikidoka were to go full out, there'd be broken bodies, and that's not how we choose to live or train. O-Sensei said that we have the right and responsibility to defend ourselves but, as Aikido is a loving art, we have the responsibility to do our best to catch them before they break their heads open on the concrete as well. From a strictly practical standpoint, if we weren't going along WITH TECHNIQUES THAT WOULD WORK, we'd be broken up, run out of partners quickly. Capiche?
@mrswellrider nobody is talking about forceful resistance... in judo and bjj, we are taught how to escape armbars wristlocks etc... but we dont escape using force... we don't resist using force... we resist with more flow... 2 judoka are not using force to resist... they are using technique to resist... have you ever been taught an escape from one of your wristlocks? do you even have wristlock escapes in aikido or is that considered "resistance" and forbidden? what about shoulder lock escapes?
MOst people forget that it is not self defence^^ the essence of aikidou is the contact between the two right? So there is a need for an energy from the attacker, through a contact with the other side. aikidou is present in the scene until these energies exist, when they cease to exist, it is over.
@aikidoisthebombyeah You don't see broken wrists in Tomiki for the same reason you don't see broken skulls in Judo. It's a stupid question to start with. Now, if you want to fight against... um... trained fighters, which are a microscopic part of the population... you'd have to become one yourself. Regimen, athletics, concussions and all that. As for street fighters... it depends on the encounter. I recommend you research the topic of self-defense, it's a lot larger than MMA or Aikido.
you know e takes an experienced grip on the attackers arm, that in case of not droping temselves teir arms would get broken easily. It seems to be fake just because it is controlled, and they dont want to break each oter's limbs.
@jinsuihito Sounds like a huge gap in training, not a flaw with Aikido. I can't recall where, but I read that O-Sensei wouldn't even take a student if he/she wasn't already a black belt. Personally, I've studied striking martial arts, so I've been hit in training. I've been in real fights, so I've been hit. (And no, I didn't always win.) That said, sounds like the 'top" Aikidoka was taken by surprise when the testee used proper atemi; not to inflict pain as much as distract. Hope dude passed.
It certainly has helped me more than once. In particular, coming off of a motorcycle onto concrete, from 65 to zero instantly, it was ONLY learning to roll/fall in Aikido that allowed me to walk away from the incident with nothing more than a bit of soreness, even though the 1100cc bike bounced across 3 lanes of traffic in downtown L.A. But thanks SO much for sharing your particular brand of clueless bullshit. Have a nice day.
you can't say that about them. surely they have other techniques when it comes to fighting more than 1 person. if you are fighting 1 on 1 on the streets. down on the ground is fine for them since they are trained in such a fight.
We can certainly resist during a technique, and at the higher levels uke does resist, but if you don't learn how to do the technique itself properly, you're just wrestling with the other person. Having experienced an actual Japanese master's technique I can tell you: resist or not, you're going down to the ground. Tomiki's aikido is a sport, and although it is more energetic, they still employ the same principles. The flips are actually escape techniques from what should be joint breakers.
Im an MMA fighter who also trains Akido, by a 66 yr old master. Im not one to opinionate but I wouldn't be half the fighter if it wasnt for Akido. No style is worthless. Knowledge is power. Any real / experienced mma fighter will tell you this. Remember the days you felt this way for when you walk the path of a fighter it will be a most humbling journey:) gr8 journeys ! (no disrespect meant via comment.)
Fantastic demonstration! He makes his techniques very explicit so observers can see how they work.
I would say above most other martial arts aikido because of its philosophy/ideology/spiritual insight heightens one's awareness to levels where one is able to sense danger/aggression/violence and move away, redirect, change the strategy and thus not participate in violence - which is a very base, low level human condition. There is a beauty, elegance and yes practical side to aikido that few martial arts can equal, from destroying to building/developing/promoting harmony. Very sophisticated.
@Leushenko Please realize that aikido is not just learning how to throw someone, but a big part is learning how to be thrown. It's called "ukemi" which translates to something like "the art of falling". So, yes... for many of the techniques, the uke (person receiving the technique) IS going with it because if they did not, they risk being injured by the person performing the technique (called the "nage" or "tori").
Excellent execution and technique, the timing is excellent.
@TheShadow4211 And his son, Ueshiba Mitsuteru, is called Waka-sensei, which means young teacher. Back when Kisshomaru-sensei was alive, he was called Doshu, and Moriteru-sensei was called Waka-sensei, and now that Moriteru sensei took over, he is called Doshu. I think the title is transferred upon the death of the previous Doshu, and is given to the successor, as decreed by the previous Doshu.
@Leushenko In order to save the wrist, one has to actively leap over to catch up to the wrist rotation. It is pure skeletal mechanics. You learn fast what happens otherwise, because inevitably we all sustain some injury due to stupidheadedness during fluidity drills.
In reality, nobody does leaps. There wouldn't be a fancy landing, just someone's head smashing into a bus stop, or a cracking noise, followed by a yelp, as their elbow is torn out.
@TheShadow4211 As far as I'm aware of, Doshu is the hereditary title given to the successor of any organization that follows the Japanese iemoto system. The founder is usually called Soke, and his successors, or more specific to the iemoto system, his children and grandchildren, will be given the title of Doshu. There's other titles that accompany this title, such as dojocho, kancho, and whatnot. When people refer to Ueshiba-doshu, they usually mean the current head, which is Moriteru sensei.
Aikido is a martial art of self defense.What u learn in dojo is a variations of this art.U might not use everthing that u learned on the street.Few of this basic techniques r very useful but to master & understand it u need to learn variations of techniques(with patience) in this art & it takes 4-5 years to really used it on the street when it is needed.Whatever negative comments about it, i'm sure aikidoka will learn these:1)caution 2)distance 3)reflex 4)speed 5) stability & 6)timing.
I study aikido. I'm only 14 and already a green belt.it brought peace to my life.
FABULOUS! perfect! Suwari, preeeeety to see
master moriteru!
You'll see principles of ukemi in techniques like the armlock (hijishime) where the technique will hurt or even break the uke's elbow if they do not do the proper escape to reduce the pressure. Flipping is a technique that allows you to escape throws and joint controls safely. Both nage and uke are doing techniques, with uke doing the best possible escape method from what should be a killing blow. It is stressed that uke must protect himself at all times, and not surrender himself to the nage.
Believe what you want. Those of us who have practiced the art as more than a passing interest already know better.
Part of the reason that people doubt Aikido is that a lot of people who practice it don't truly understand what it is. People learn techniques, which are great, they help us learn how our bodies move and how the geometry of Aikido works. But these are just stepping stones. True Aikido does not use techniques, for the idea of 'trying' to apply a technique means that you can be resisted. If you are truly harmonized with your attacker then you are in sync with them, and the technique forms itself.
@Kavafy Imagine your sword is in your belt, or you are drawing/ holding a sword. The reaching for the wrist/ body, which looks like they are just sticking their arms out, is the attacker attempting to control you. As you have a weapon, if they lose focus or control for a second they are dead. Thus, they "keep" coming at him. This can be applied to anyone trying to control/ grab something you have, but, really, trying to apply or think about it out of context is futile.
@btocp I got to sit in on an Aikijitsu-ka for his 3rd degree black belt test. Our top Aikido-ka asked if he could resist a little bit, you know, give the testee a difficult time, and sensei said that was fine. When he did resist, the jitsu guy hit him, half force, enough to stun our guy and complete his technique. No where in our training is there preparations for actually taking a hit. Always ready to fall, sure, but never thinking about actually getting hit. :)
so relaxed and smooth, not even breathing hard or sweating
They used to say the same thing about his grandfather. That's why they had him teach the military many of his techniques.
That's very cool, no problem...didn't see this post before I responded to you on the other video.
Few, somebody who knows what they're doing... As far as I know, at my own meager level of training, the slap is there to reduce the impact of the roll by acting like a spring or shock absorber, reducing the momentum without damaging yourself by placing whatever energy that wasn't cancelled out by the slap's impact into the muscle/tendon complex instead. Those heal better than broken bones. Sometimes, like in jumping back breakfall, the slap is all you have to stop yourself from dying on the mats
wooww!! look how they did the breakfall ukemi and the speed of the movementes, awesomee!!!!
@Leushenko If you don't do the safe responses you end up pretty sore at best, and potentially hospitalized with some of the techniques, particularly the joint-breaks.
Forget the history lessons, forget the battlefield. Appreciate the beauty of the art. Appreciate the timing, the simplicity of the motions. However, if you doubt its validity as a martial art, I suggest you go visit Gakku Homma sensei, in Denver, who was the last live in student with O Sensei. You might learn a thing or three...
I just want to comment on something that might enlighten folks without much Aikido experience. If you look closely at the first throw (ura iriminage), the uke, or the one being thrown, would've had a broken neck from collision with the tatami mats had he not done a proper flying back breakfall. His hand hit the ground first and the whole arm became like a spring, reducing the falling motion and saving himself. He also properly kept his head up, so that it wasn't the first thing that lands.
Please look at the connection a little more closely. It wasn't an attack by uke in the first place, but a block. In this case, uke blocks what appears to be an incoming strike, but it's actually a redirection of the forward momentum of uke's charge. Once the momentum is under control by nage, the throw can be easily applied. Remember that each technique is meant for a different entry strike, whether it be a punch, a grab, or a kick, which will determine both the connection type, and the maai.
@xiealic Moriteru Ueshiba gained the rank of Doshu from Kisshomaru Ueshiba (his father) who gained the rank of Doshu from Morihei Ueshiba (Kisshomaru's father).
@Nate3457 (I'm fairly new, so my answer might not be 100%) but in Aikido, the defender positions himself in a way that is dangerous or confusing to the attacker (e.g. behind him, next to him, or somewhere he can't continue his attack). This makes the attacker vulnerable; he needs to hold your hand to defend himself, and to feel where you are so he can keep attacking. IF he lets go, his attack ends (but less spectacularly), which was the goal anyways. Hope this was helpful.
@aikidoisthebombyeah I just wanted to say that from my experience, your comments make a tremendous amount of sense and are very practical. I totally agree that there is just another perspective that one can only obtain when placed in a scenario that is as close to real as is possible.
Seven Segal's Aikido is quite aggressive and looks so cool, but I guess Master Ueshiba just doesnt want to hurt his students, and theres just such an aesthetic quality about how he does aikido
Beautiful Aikido.
such beauty and grace! for non-practitioners - or, for the ordinary street gang - the fall is really gonna hurt bad. i know...
@GokiGandalf I 100% Agree! The trouble is there are too many ignorant opinionated people out there & the comments will keep coming. I have trained in Wado Ryu, Ju-Jitsu, Wing Chun & Aikido. I believe Aikido has some important core elements that can only help to further enhance the others. There is so many important things that can be taken from all the Martial Arts. To me its about finding out what works for the individual.
The best part is the silence in the crowd.
aikido is a counter attack and defense martial arts, not attacking martial arts, so they don't using a power to counter attack, counter attack means that we used the enemy's energy or their power to counter them ..aikido is the coolest martial arts ever..
@FearThisChannel Distance doesn't mean far. In fact Aikido is more usable if the opponent is nearer(jiujitsu & judo r from the same roots).What i meant is we 'understand' the distance in between..by understands it, we should reflex. That is when timing comes in..
@btocp of course. The critique here is mainly that aikido ukemi is often largely over-dramatized.
@harryrackham34 In Aikido, the aim is to subdue as painlessly as possible, and without injury. Quite frankly, it's far easier to hurt or even kill with the techniques we learn, since that's what they were originally for. But what does that achieve? Enemies, vendettas, hatred, and jail? How would any of that be worth it? When you train in martial arts seriously, and not just to mess around on the streets, you inevitably ask yourself these questions. O-sensei found his answer to be: promote peace.
Amazing. What a great video.
@aikidoisthebombyeah As for the resistance... I wouldn't stay with a school where they don't practice resistance, either. I stayed because I pushed a 2nd degree black belt the way I would push someone in a schoolyard, and ended up upside down in the air, scared as shit, and then there was a bruise on my ass. This was during the first year of training.
I also stayed because I saw some people's ability to near-break wrists almost instantaneously, and other interesting things.
so smooth it actually looks like they dancing a waltz
@MegaMrname
We also shouldn't say bad things about mixed martial artists. They do a lot of the pioneering research on martial arts now, since it's become a lucrative business. I think the rest of the MA community could stand to gain from this as it could lead to an increase in interest of martial arts overall. Also, their research will inevitably lead them to the ancient arts, as they ponder it's effectiveness. Their willingness to learn new styles is a big advantage over the traditional arts.
It may look like a silly dance, but that's because it's a demonstration. This is a great fighting style for anyone willing to give it a shot. As for why aikidokas don't fight in competition, you need to understand that aikido philosophy frowns upon violence. It is better to solve a dispute with solid communication.
Absolutely awesome.
@TheShadow4211 However, I don't believe the title Doshu refers to a rank. The Doshu is above, or if you prefer, outside of the Dan system of ranking. This also holds true for founders of other styles of martial arts (Aikido included). The titles aren't really ranks, but a designation of their social hiearchy. The Dan ranking system is really just a relative measure of a Budoka's ability level. Certain titles, like renshi, shihan, and hanshi, are given seperately and not corresponding to any Dan.
@harryrackham34
aikido is not about violence it is about taking the attack of your opponent and blending with it to redirect it. our main intention is not to hurt but to stop.
@7Digit7Gamer7 you don't necessarily even have to throw him to humiliate him. From the second he decides to attack another, he's already humiliated himself
@drkarnov It's a show of technique and fluidity, not as much reality or a REAL world environment. In a real world environment the opponent would just have a broken wrist, not too often will they fly around; only if they have momentum; and Judo proves that it's possible to use momentum to throw people in the air.
While self defence is about stopping the enemy and getting far from the enemy. Isn't aikidou about being in contact with the enemy so we can control him or her through their attacking energies? I read it in a master's published book. and experienced during my short time
As an all-state level wrestler in school, I'd always choose Bottom, then grab their hand with my right hand and roll to the right. It works every time, because I can grab and drop/roll a lot faster than they can do anything else from that position. But understand, it's not using anything "against" them in Aikido. There is no Opponent, though there may be an Attacker, because we are all one. Accordingly, there is no "against," unless you aim to be against yourself.:) Good luck & skills!
@qaiboroville87 I don't think he actually throws you. It's just that your arm is twisted to a point you naturally will jump to ease the pain, thus it seems like he's throwing you. I was on the receiving end of this before. What he is showing in this vid is a demonstration, with his "opponents" able to have proper landing to avoid hurting themselves. In a more practical situation, you'll just be on the floor.
That clapping the floor is it a way of saying: "i recognize that you have deffeated me this round, and that you could easily break my arm in this state"?
i had practiced aikido (until green belt) but currently i'm black belt in karate. I think karate is more effective in several things.
Anyway i'm jelaous about how this master move his body, that's great.
Aikido was founded in the 1920's and 1930's. I'd love to see how that "proved itself on the bettlefields" 1000 years ago. Some of the techniques used in Aikido derive from Daitō-ryū Aiki-jūjutsu where credits usually go to Minamoto no Yoshimitsu in the 11th century. But that's a whole other story, and that wasn't "Aikido".
When I watch this, it reminds me why I want to continue training in aikido :)
I love how it was silent the whole way....
@CheetaReborn Going and trying out a martial art would be a good idea, except for the fact that there are dozens of them. You can't possibly try them all. So looking at video footage seems like a sensible first step. And if you can't point to any examples of what I asked for, despite your apparent affiction for Aikido, then I must conclude that that's because there *aren't any examples*.
@jinsuihito As btocp already noticed, that sure sounds like something you might want to politely ask sensei about - about changing this aspect in your training. O'Sensei is often quoted as saying that Aikido is 90% Atemi (and Prof. Goldsbury has a point when he says that is completely wrong, Aikido is 100% Atemi, even if you don't see them). O'Sensei reportedly also said that there are three places for Atemi: before, during, and after a technique. Also check out George Ledyard on this topic.
The jo part is really great!
I was in a 3rd kyu ranking when i involved in a car accident few years ago.That guy walked out swearing at me & point a finger right up my face.I used only 2 techniques, that was iriminage & tenchinage.Few of the bystanders stop the fight when i was in the middle of doing tenchinage to him.He got bruises & cut on his face(i do not know how & when he got that), it happens to fast but i'm sure he didn't even touch me!Aikido really works, believe me!I'm going to 2nd dan this year.
How do you know that? Did you ever meet one? The one I met trains big police officers, and they're easily over 200 lbs. Gracie and Co. are masters of their arts as well, so now it's down to experience vs. experience, but just talking about fully resisting opponents, we can definately do it, but of course you wouldn't believe it unless you are witnessing it yourself or is the one being thrown. I've given what information I could, the rest you'll need to find out for yourself in real life.
Is that a FIVE man randori at the end?
Impressive, to say the absolute least.
@harryrackham34
Also keep in mind that everyone demonstrating is an expert, so with all that great breakfalls you can't really see any damage, which may seem as ineffective. If an unskilled student were to go up, there would be a lot of blood flying about
Aikido evolved from the Samurai way of the sword,,,, Daito Ryu Aiki jujitsu then to Aikido and the way you practice it is just like holding a sword. Bokken and Jo practice are essentials in Aikido practice as well as Iaido. Extending and developing your center is one of the most important thing in Aikido. You can call it Japanese dance or any name because it looks so graceful.
you are absolutely right
tell that to most cops and most military personnel in the world. They have all been taught Aikido techniques to use in their very real life situations.
maybe u r wondering if this martial art is effective or not but you'll know if u use it against anyone tries to attack u ....
it has very powerful technics .
Hahaha at the end I din't want him to stop. Ah I love Aikido!
anyway if someone is soo determined about martial arts that he or she has been learning more stlyes, then that person would certainly be sooo conscious about it that she or he wouldn't talk nonsense without understanding enough. and I think those who really is a martial artist would seek the secrets of the current one instead of commenting without consideration blindly.
That is not my experience. I worked as a bouncer in Phoenix AZ nightclubs for a combined total of eight years. While I have never studied Aikido itself, I have studied and used it's principles and philosophies. I have studied striking styles, and aside from a couple of pushes, never used them in a club. Displacement, counters, joint locks, pressure points, and the occasional throw have all proved very useful in a violent environment. I have never had to explain my actions to a cop or a judge.
@FUBARbyBOOZE So by the way you're explaining, the master is just defending without intend of attacking, while the opponent is just trying to maintain an offensive position and not let go of it. Is that right? I was thinking it was just "for show", but if it's like that, I can understand the reason for going for the hand. Thanks.
@CheetaReborn "He made it for what he needed." Fine, I accept that. But how do we know it's effective? Isn't that a reasonable question?
Usually you fight with punches and kicks, there are several techniques that allow us to break your arm just with one boxing punch it's pretty efective and you wont have the time to react believe i thought it was bullshit but its not.
@CheetaReborn No, I'm pretty sure no-one called it "Marital" Aikido. If you're going to nit-pick, best make sure you don't make mistakes yourself. As for MMA, you've mentioned it three times and I hadn't mentioned once. Why did *you* choose to bring up MMA? Oh, and finally, if Aikido was "made to protect yourself in the days of the samurai" then it was made about 100 years too late. That's probably why people don't understand it.
WoW. He's amazing!
@cheetareborn there won't be a referee that tells your training partner not to offer any resistance either...
Wow.....amazing.
@MegaMrname No what the person is saying is Aikido is a martial art. As far as fighting goes its use less.
@syimang But what if you cannot keep distance because the opponent comes close to you?
congratulations Moriteru Ueshiba
Well said my friend.
I would agree with your comments except where you mention that it was developed to end conflict without harming your opponent. The uke's are not harmed because they know how to fall. Aikido's throws are very circular and therefor an uke can roll out of them easily. If you are not trained in how to fall though you would most likely be hurt from hitting the ground.
@daikarasuro: just ignore them, haters gonna hate.
they're just thinking to hurt others and they are can't beat their own ego.
@travismccullough1938 I disagree. I've seen it in a real life on the street fight and it worked just fine. The aggressor was dispatched with minimal effort and no permanent damage aside from his pride.
Soldiers used to stand in columns right in front of eachother and fire their rifles...that doesn't mean it's a good idea. Because of MMA and guerrilla warfare we have learned what actually works in hand to hand combat. Even Bruce Lee would get crushed by the elite martial artists today.
It seems very effective, everybody should try to learn ;)
And also that if Aikidoka were to go full out, there'd be broken bodies, and that's not how we choose to live or train. O-Sensei said that we have the right and responsibility to defend ourselves but, as Aikido is a loving art, we have the responsibility to do our best to catch them before they break their heads open on the concrete as well.
From a strictly practical standpoint, if we weren't going along WITH TECHNIQUES THAT WOULD WORK, we'd be broken up, run out of partners quickly. Capiche?
He is he best of the best and if you dont know than you better go and ask someone.
@mrswellrider nobody is talking about forceful resistance... in judo and bjj, we are taught how to escape armbars wristlocks etc... but we dont escape using force... we don't resist using force... we resist with more flow... 2 judoka are not using force to resist... they are using technique to resist... have you ever been taught an escape from one of your wristlocks? do you even have wristlock escapes in aikido or is that considered "resistance" and forbidden? what about shoulder lock escapes?
MOst people forget that it is not self defence^^ the essence of aikidou is the contact between the two right? So there is a need for an energy from the attacker, through a contact with the other side. aikidou is present in the scene until these energies exist, when they cease to exist, it is over.
@aikidoisthebombyeah You don't see broken wrists in Tomiki for the same reason you don't see broken skulls in Judo. It's a stupid question to start with.
Now, if you want to fight against... um... trained fighters, which are a microscopic part of the population... you'd have to become one yourself. Regimen, athletics, concussions and all that.
As for street fighters... it depends on the encounter. I recommend you research the topic of self-defense, it's a lot larger than MMA or Aikido.
you know e takes an experienced grip on the attackers arm, that in case of not droping temselves teir arms would get broken easily. It seems to be fake just because it is controlled, and they dont want to break each oter's limbs.
@jinsuihito Sounds like a huge gap in training, not a flaw with Aikido. I can't recall where, but I read that O-Sensei wouldn't even take a student if he/she wasn't already a black belt. Personally, I've studied striking martial arts, so I've been hit in training. I've been in real fights, so I've been hit. (And no, I didn't always win.) That said, sounds like the 'top" Aikidoka was taken by surprise when the testee used proper atemi; not to inflict pain as much as distract. Hope dude passed.
It certainly has helped me more than once. In particular, coming off of a motorcycle onto concrete, from 65 to zero instantly, it was ONLY learning to roll/fall in Aikido that allowed me to walk away from the incident with nothing more than a bit of soreness, even though the 1100cc bike bounced across 3 lanes of traffic in downtown L.A. But thanks SO much for sharing your particular brand of clueless bullshit. Have a nice day.
"but once he stepped on the tatami he threw people like a mutherfucker"
you can't say that about them. surely they have other techniques when it comes to fighting more than 1 person. if you are fighting 1 on 1 on the streets. down on the ground is fine for them since they are trained in such a fight.
so awesome
We can certainly resist during a technique, and at the higher levels uke does resist, but if you don't learn how to do the technique itself properly, you're just wrestling with the other person. Having experienced an actual Japanese master's technique I can tell you: resist or not, you're going down to the ground. Tomiki's aikido is a sport, and although it is more energetic, they still employ the same principles. The flips are actually escape techniques from what should be joint breakers.
Yes I think most people do martial art with their mouths. And don't think before making a statement.
they would shatter limbs on the daily in the MMA matches
right:) I have forgot about this. But it explains a lot!!!