Lamont Williams Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he wasn't capable of keeping it together in a rhyme like 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymer than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
What he's saying is, if he wanted to just nod his head & have a good time, he'd be behind biggie... If he wanted to nod his head & challenge this white man's world infrastructure, he'd be behind Tupac...
D James / You sound stupid... Every drug dealer ain't a killer, but the way you just lump shit together, tells me all that I know about you... I don't care what whoever said, I was addressing the words coming out of your train of thought... Pac didn't even go to ballet school, mobb deep did... Pac went to a performance arts high school, & became a damn good actor for the big screen... Like I said before, you're the one caught up in this American stereotype life... Pac was black panther party to his soul... People like you on the sidelines believe that just because he talked about the streets means he was trying to become it...?? How do you sound, we are all from the streets, there's is no such thing as being from the streets equals gangsta, drugs, killings, etc... That's that Hollywood lie that you & the phony zombies believe in like y'all believe in Jesus & god... The fact you're saying you'd follow anybody speaks for itself what kind of person you are, a follower... I don't have to follow Pac or Malcolm x, I'm living the exact reality they're speaking of, & until the power that be, or people like your demon ass kill me, I'm still here... Troll all you want, you're behind a keyboard, not in my reality...
2 pac was a beast. aggressive, passionate, gangsta, loving, poetic, ambitious, creative, political, brave, honest, and so many more words i can mention. nobody is better than him
***** I grew up in Queens and I always liked Tupac over biggie, jay z...I got heat for it but I need deep down inside..he was leaps and bounds over them...I remember I get around first pop up on video music box in 93...I was like this dude is going to be big and 3 years he accomplished more than anyone could ..Tupac, Nas, Styles P...
Next time grown folks talk nigga close ur mouth 2pac on mob deep u think murda music is the best ....?... The best is 2pac ..nas&mob deep,Jay z or puffy are alive but they water down nothing but garbage music we talking bout pac 16 years ago and he still sound as if he in the booth on some new shit in Africa jungles they know pac so is middle east Asia I'm done....
@E Gaynes You're the most controversial troll on this comment section, so shut your groupie ass up. And why did you reply to every post that isn't in favor of Biggie? You must be a 16 year old white girl trapped in a grown nigga's body to be taking these kinds of L's! Hahahahaha.
I agree. Biggie didn't do enough quantity-wise. When I was little, I liked them both for different reasons. It depends on the day. Ready to Die is undeniable though.
Better lyricist of the two: Big. Better rapper, bigger influence, bigger cultural impact and political impact: Pac. They brought two different things to the table but both were great.
Tim Kruse Yeah Biggie is sort of 1 dimensional in terms of what he rapped about. He had a great flow and was lyrically good but like that other guy said, 2Pac had it all and this gives him the edge over Big.
TheLazyAngel89 Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
Makaveli250 Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
2Pac's mind was on a different level in terms of positivity and social awareness. He cared about the people. Now thats one thing I couldnt say about Biggie.
Pac's depth and versatility was and still is unmatched. Like Bleek said, you'll never hear anybody spit a record like Brenda's Got a Baby. Hearing that track sounds like it came from an award-winning, best-selling novel the way Pac tells that story. The definition of "lyricist" has changed from generation to generation. Even with current artists today, the term "lyricist" is so messed up that people can't even agree on who is one anymore. Maybe is the major influx of hate that's also creeped in to the Hip Hop community in the past few years. But when you spit some shit like: Somebody wake me, I'm dreaming I started as a seed, the semen Swimming upstream, planted in the womb while screaming On the top was my Pops, my mama screaming stop From a single drop this is what they got I can't help but be floored on how this dude can just open your mind and fill it with a picture like that.
2PAC HANDS DOWN HAITI LOVES TUPAC BTW JUST WANNA THROW THAT OUT THERE HES WORTH MORE THAN MANY CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS TO US CUZ HE MADE US LOOK AT OURSELF INWARD AND TRY TO START THE CHANGE FROM THERE AND THATS A SUPERPOWER BELIEVE THAT
I think Bleek hit the nail on the head. You can't compare the two and both are great artist. 2Pac's Makaveli album is a work art. Biggie lyrical flow is second to none. Seeing that Jay-Z has matured to the artist he has, I wish Biggie and Pac would have had the opportunity to have done the same. Can you imagine 2Pac with a Pharrell production or Biggie with a Mike Will Made it beat? The bar for rap would have been set so far, those two artist would have further propel Rap music as the dominant music genre.
***** the point I was making, if Big and Pac had access to Jay-Z producers (Mannie Fresh, Timbaland, Pharell) I can only imagine the songs they would have produced. btw...I don't see 2Pac working with Yeezy but a Big/Jeezy collab would have been something. and also in reference to Mike Will Made It...."Beach is better" he did with Jay-Z is fiyah.
Yung God Don't believe everything you hear, 2pac wrote that song based on a true story. It was based on a local homicide that happened in his city. Lil 1/2 dead had no part in the creation of that song, he simply disliked the fact that 2Pac got signed to Interscope records before him, because he was also a well underground artist at the time in Oakland and was mad that 2pac, who started as a roadie/backup dancer got signed first.....
MrJeffmurphy Biggie have none we understood da QUESTION that's y ppl naming PAC song not biggie sum naming PAC song that they think is deeper than BLASPHEMY
2 Legends!!! Pac's delivery and emphasis on his topic of choice grabbed you to the point where you could feel his pain, the trials and tribulations, and the emotion coming through his lyrics. If you couldn't feel it, you might want to check your pulse. Biggie on the other hand, had awesome flow and timing. He was a true lyricist. They're both GOATs in retrospect, period...
biggie's flows and stories in his songs is what I look form, he's just the better rapper, maybe tupac was more famous but I can put any song from biggie and just ENJOY it
CrazyDiamond Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
Technically Biggie is the better rapper clearly. However, rap is more than technicality and 2Pac proved it as he had the whole package as a person which transcended into his music, hence peoples' understanding and emotional connection with him/his message.
No one can be compared to Pac. Dead or alive, NO ONE. Yes, I am a Tupac fan since forever but still, I'm trying to be objective. Pac was a philosopher who was able to reach all races, ages and religions. And I'm white. P.S. It turns my stomach around when I hear people mentioning Drake, Wayne etc., as possibly greatest or some other one season club hit ,,as the shit''. Have people gone so dumb?!
+Pat We can definitely agree that both rappers were nice. Just giving my opinion that Pac was better lyrically, but I don't know anyone who can touch Biggie's flow.
Pac had 3 albums before that .. and had many movies out .. BIG literally just dropped his FIRST album.. when Pac released his fourth he was fresh out of jail and had a lot of attention so he sold around the same as BIG sold album wise at the end of 1995, in total tho, BIG outsold him in 1995 off the back of his video blowing his album up, then Pac dropped again in 1996 and had classic like California Love etc, and BIG didn’t do much for 1996 apart from features and record for Life After Death .. so you understand Pac didn’t have a platnium album until 1995 and he released his first in 1991
FTL excuses excuses excuses “if” if was 5ft we would all be drunk 😵 pac was a all round better artist then biggie I love big but compare him to pac is not fair biggie just got start like u just said pac showed you in every album he grew you can’t say that about every artist “that every album the come out with is better the the last one “facts” look I’m not going to argue with you pac is the 🐐
FTL bro that didn’t make sense all I was saying is pac sold more records on deathrow then biggie sold in his career pac has the first double album cd to go platinum he’s the 🐐 u ain’t got to like it just respect it 💯
PAC handz down...yur playjn yurself if u think otherwise...pac could flow like a SOB and deliver murder on wax yet capture the hearts of men and women young and old with his passion and wisdom...all at like 25 years old...i love me some BIG but come on now...PAC was like Elvis n Bob Marley in a lil street niggaz body with tha soul of a revolutionary!
BAW News you do realize pac dumb down alot of his lyrics on purpose so the the female listeners could relate more to his music?becuase he was smart enough to know that women actually go out and "pay" for the music. the niggas on the corner giving props to nice lyrics usually never buy real music.so just becuase he didnt get extra lyrical on every song doesnt mean he was less then a lyricist then biggie in short pac recorded over 350 songs biggie only recorded like 40 songs out the of the 350 songs created honetly ide say half of those songs he was very lyrical so thats 175 songs compared to biggies 40.lol.go listen to when thugs cry,fucking with the wrong nigga ,blasphame alot of his album songs were very lyrical he dumb down the radio hits a little to sell more records.which was smart
BAW News wasnt saying biggie didnt sell i was just telling you why pac rapped the way he did.& you probably havent heard most of his songs.he was better in my book becuase he didnt lie like biggie did in his raps.all he raps about is being a player which probally wasnt true into he bacame famous.he raps about "a one room shack"which his own mother denied & sayed he never had to struggle he was just telling stories,but if i didnt hear as many songs like you havent i could see why you would feel the way you do.but either way he did it the right way ide rather make 350 songs & sell over 80 million then make 40 songs & sell 12 million.but thats just me
Big was a better lyricist but Tupac was bigger than Rap music. He was a legendary musician on the level of Bob Marley. His music came straight from his soul to yours. He made you think about the state of society and question it.
“The only things that interest me in the U.S. are Tupac Shakur, Allen Ginsberg and Jackson Pollock, I don’t need a visa to access their work. I lose nothing.” That's how a Vladimir Putin adviser responded when questioned about the recent United States sanctions.
Definitely not... big was the better rapper overall and I love pac but can't lie tho if big had the amount of time in the game that pac had it wouldn't even be an argument
LordHipHop _ The mere fact that you wrote a comment, is proof that it evoked some sort of emotion. Not to mention calling the man's opinion "bullshit". It was a fair assessment from where I'm standing. Of course they're all artists by definition, but Pac was more adept at the art form. He had a song for every subject matter and he poured his heart and soul into every track. Again, this is our opinion and you're welcome to yours. However your approach was borne out of emotion. You didn't stop to ascertain the nature of RUclips comments. FYI they're mostly opinions.
You could have finished it with, "I believe Biggie is better, that's my opinion" And Kamal, would probably have said, thats cool. But instead you turned into a "remedial" BITCH. He got you good though.
And before you get emotional again, i have both artists albums in my collection, i got mad respect for Biggie and Pac, both are great in their own right. I prefer Pac cause his music lifts me. Remember this is my opinion, am not saying whos better etc..
Let's be honest here. Pac more famous because of controversy and looks. I remember back in the day, most people saw BIG as the best rapper alive.. after they both die, Pac kinda blew up on a different cultural level.. he was never seen as a revolutionary when he was a live that's for sure. But he did create a lot of songs that brought up social issues in America, and that legacy got stronger after he died.
It you ask the entire world tupac or biggie who is better , the entire new York 90% will say biggie,because is biggie is from new York and he raps about new York, go some were else the answer is tupac,if you ask the world tupac 75% biggie 25%
maSO6P 10000 Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
I would say he's overrated in comparison to 2Pac, but as one of the "greats" he definitely isn't in my book......Biggie possibly had the best flow of all time.....but I'd definitely take Nas over him and maybe Jay-Z during his Reasonable Doubt-Blueprint 1 stage
Thank u Danielle Sims and Dari Bn, usually I'm on the net protecting our legends and educating others like u guys are doing but thanks to y'all I don't have to say anything today. Y'all covered everything.
2Pac has a better message and stood for something better, he had the best catalogue and the best character. BIG was the better MC and the better wordsmith...so you cant compare the two. They were both great at what they did but they were on different levels
biggie as a lyricist is easily 2pac's superior and he had great albums and told great stories however I forgot who the quote is attributed to but "what someone says can be forgotten but how they made you feel will never be" that really sums up 2pac to me.....message,passion,energy is what 2pac had behind him that no one really matched me perhaps to a lesser extent dmx tapped into that but not like 2pac.
Not quite taking nothing away from biggie and his talent which was beastly lyrics,flow,story telling etc....but lyrically there were rappers just as good if not better during that era that had the same subject matter..2pac was more versatile as an overall artist in his subject matter and just making more universally felt music...Biggie was mostly from the block music wheras 2pac was relatable everywhere including the block one reason he simply tends to see more love all over
Great statement and so accurate. Biggie was the better MC easily for me! But Tupac’s message, influence and ability to connect tone poll through his music is unrivalled. His music is more important but I prefer Biggie n
like I said pac was a poet, icon, revolutionary, pac make you think about society and so on. However, biggie is way better emcee than pac. lyrics, flow, moving a crowd, party rap, mafioso rap, story telling biggie hands down.
You ain't lying my dude. Everybody knows BIG was a better Mc. PAC had the the same flow in damn near every song he made. I really started listening to PAC after he died. You can't deny his lyrical content though but I couldn't feel dude like BIG.
You've just stated that BIG was better lyrically but PAC was that dude. The question was who was the better rapper not the realest. Were you even around back then? As I stated I didn't mess with PAC till after he passed and actually felt what he was saying but as far as actual skills are concerned he just wasn't that nice. I actually bought ME AGAINST THE WORLD when it dropped because of that track OLDSCHOOL where he was talking about growing up in NYC. I felt that track because I could relate but the rest of that album was alright and I gave it away, there may have been some gems on there but remember when it came out nobody was checking for PAC like that. He got more famous when he started getting into shit and thats all facts.
Biggie was a good rapper but PAC was acting and rapping and that's why people always talk about PAC cause nobody could do what he did.biggie is just known for his raps and nothing else tupac was educated and smarter just look at PACs interviews. PAC sold more albums therefore PAC is better the people liked him better that's why they bought his albums and that's why he's in the Guinness world record book.
Bill Samuel Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
2pac came before biggie. Biggie wasn’t known until 2pac let him perform in one of his shows so I would say 2pac then biggie. I think comparing to two is unfair because they are different rappers with different strengths and weaknesses. It’s like comparing oranges to apple and let’s not forget music is subjective. Good music is good music lol
Also, if there was no 2pac, there would be no biggie and remember this, biggies beats sounded more west coast after he met 2pac and biggies style changed and started talking about death. 2pac himself even mentioned this.
Biggie was one of the best lyrical rappers ever, that's undisputed anyone that say otherwise is smoking dust, but as a global icon and the peoples lives that's been touched including my own, and besides the antics how down to earth and real he was in his raps, and how his flow made every beat he was on instead of the other way around cause a lot of bigs songs you could pop a hot ny rapper on it and it'll still be hot like nas, jay, big pun, big l, etc. But you couldn't put anyone on Brenda's got a baby or Hail Mary because his message and emotion transcended, at the end of the day they are different and was great artists which is all that matters they both deserve respect, no one gets amped up to say led zeppelin is better than Rolling Stones cause they're both great in their own right, respect real hiphop, RIP to two of the greatest! Honorable mention to big l, big pun, pimp c, etc. who held it down for hiphop
juniortim33 Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
Compare Luther Vandross to Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield to Nat King Cole, Chuck Barry to Little Richard, Denzel to Sidney Poitier, Malcolm to Martin saying who's better than who... Supporting each other is better. Tupac & Biggie did the best they could to make it.
Tupac and Biggie i hate how people argue about this If i was sad i would come him and listen to pac if i felt like i just wanted to relax at home i would listen to Biggie. Biggie lyrics and flow are hands down better the pacs but .Pacs messages and Life lessons are hands down better Both are 👑 R.IP ♥️
biggy music sonically was better, and flow, style and delivery was more attractive to the ear ... but biggy was simply a good rapper/entertainer ... one of many... pac was one of those special people that come once in every few generations ... thug immortal the thug angel prophet .... warrior ... eternal peace (rip) ... thats why here (UK), jamaica, Africa, Middle East, Bazil ... revolutionary minds and activists of this generation, rebels in africa, etc all follow pac ... if he lived he was a danger to the system!
Pac is The King of Rap period. The most well rounded, Rapper with the most presence, most diverse and the most famous of all. However i thing Biggie was a better word smith, and had a smoother flow.
Both guys were talented. The fact that people are still listening to and talking about their music years after releasing only 2 and 4 albums means who's best is a matter of preference.
thats a great point that even 20 years later they are both still so relevant...I also think the way the rap game has been for the last decade and a half give people alot more reasons not to forget them especially the people who grew up in that era (they made a mistake in the interview pac had five albums and big had two)
Hip hop music is based on lyrics so big was better. It does not matter how many albums you had if they were mediocre and you dropped ready to die. Pac is known through the world by his trial and tribulations, yes. We are talking about hardcore lyrics in rap, popularity could just be about good media moves nothing to do with skills. Big was a better lyricist. I like pac as well.
Reasons why Pac had the greater impact worldwide Most people overseas dont speak English just learn basics of British English so it's impossible for an uneducated to understand NY or LA slang by a 90bpm instrumental. Biggie told good stories with an amazing flow but we didn't understand what he was saying. Not the same with Pac because his voice and delivery combined with signal words everybody on the world understands created a picture in mind what other great lyricists just can do to his own people. For example when Biggie says "I put hoes in NY onto DKNY/Miami, D.C. prefer Versace" we didn't know what he was about but when Pac says "crack sale - black male" or "Hennessey - enemy" we felt his pain and the problems of black society back then. To summarize: what BIG gave to you with his lyrics Pac gave it with his voice, delivery and melancholic instrumentals to the whole world.
Why are people saying Pac had no lyrical ability but had the largest impact on the world? If that was true he'd be Al Sharpton on record. He was good at spittin and keeping your attention with subjects that you can identify with which is why he sold so much...
think they meant 2pac didn’t have better punchlines than biggie but again they are 2 different rappers with different strengths and weaknesses so no one is really better than the other, just different and let’s not forget, music is subjective. We all have different taste in music so tbh comparing the two is unfair and trying to compare them is basically the same as trying to pick sides. Is west coast better or east coast or do oranges taste better or do apples taste better? You get what I’m saying?
There isn't a fool alive that was living and breathing hip hop from when Pac and Big first came out until now that will say Big is better. Sure NY cats from where Big is from might say he won, but I'm talking ANYONE that was old enough to understand hip hop, lived hip hop back in those days and isn't a Crook homer, will tell you it's not even an argument. I think the bigger question is who was better Big vs. Wu Tang.
***** So when Wu and Big were out you were around 10? The reason I brought it up is because to me Wu played to a little more older more diverse audience, I mean out here in Cali you had whiteboy skaters (back in those days not too many blacks skated), middle class, to bangers who listened to them. Big wasn't hitting out here obviously because we loved Pac. Out here I would say at that time Wu was hitting harder.
You're an idiot. When biggie & pac was alive, the great debate was "Who's the best MC" biggie? jay z? or Nas?... Not Tupac. he was never brought up in such disscussions.
Pac - the better heart and soul poetic hardcore rapper. Biggie - the better nyc flow story telling rapper. Pac shit made you feel it cause it had meaning and you just felt that shit Biggie shit made you feel it on some hot bars he killed that verse type shit.
You can't compare the 2 because the had two different styles. If compared, Tupac was a better motivational, poetic, song writing rapper. Biggie was the best MC based off of flow, delivery, lyrical skill, different styles. Both Greats. Pac had 5 albums before he died and Biggie had 2.
Niggaz that say Biggie more lyrical than 2pac must've heard "keep ya head up" 500 times n a roll n nothing else like WTF bitch listen to his verse on Still I rise,Letter to the President,Troublesome n not only was his lyrical but had messages in them lyrics like how tf is he more lyrical than PAC bitch PAC is a lyrical Genius!!! Foh!
Anthony Gaines 2pac, in my opinion chose the "straight forward" style of rapping, none of that hidden messages stuff that other emcees do... He demonstrated PLENTY of times that he could match lyrics with Biggie at anytime if wanted....
Lyrically Pac was slept on.."i can make a muthafucka shake, rattle n' roll/a fully-liquor thug nigga quick to jab @ dem hoes"..dont care what NOBODY says he's got the greatest flow..shit was hard,straight forward and most importantly it was raw and straight from the heart..dat nigga made u feel what he was goin thru #ThugInPeace
+Killuminati “Tha_Don” King1990 pac could be lyrical when he wanted eg look how he held his own with meth and co on got my mind made up. and troublsome 96 literally gives me goosebumps to this day. never had a friend like me. me personally biggie was good but i dont feel he was super lyrical. dude had flow. super lyrical to me would be pun or big l or something
Anthony Gaines Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
Pac had more heart, and that touches people. People love Biggie, but people LOOOVE Pac, like really love him. Pac had a way of making you feel like you knew him, once again, because he had heart. Its more than the music.
people forget Life After Death was a double disk that shit was like 2 albums in one. i prefer quality over quantity anyway and Pac didn't really have a classic album imo Ready to die and Life After Death are better than any albums Pac made. To each is own but i'll take biggie lyrically, flow wise, and story telling ability. They both Legends tho
***** All eyes on me is terrible. Just a complete mash up of boring songs with a bunch of crappy featuring artist. Ready to die was a masterpeice and rated 112 on the 500 best musical albums of all time. making it the highest rap album on the list, It started with biggie being born and ended with him committing suicide. the album is constructed like a story, then life after death ironically released after his death. and idiots like you mention "All eyes on me"?
I think if BIG wasn't the number one rival of Tupac in 1996, Biggie fame would've died a year or 2 after he died.. it's because Pac, we still remember Biggie
Nah I don’t think so. Doesn’t make sense because Biggie sold more records than Pac. Life after death was the first rap album to go Diamond and he had the record for the best selling rap album for years!!! Why not Pac....? Biggie was actually a bigger rap star than Pac before their deaths and he is sampled MUCH more in rap music, like MUCH more!! Pac has a bigger influence for sure after his death and on a wider range of people, because of his emotionally touching music. I love both either way.
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Biggie music made u say damn how he put them words together like dat
Pac music hit ya heart
The best break down and take on both artists. Both biggie and tupac albums reside in my home.
yamaotostrike best damn analogy i heard on the debate to date, "they both reside in my house". Mine too brotha.
Lamont Williams Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he wasn't capable of keeping it together in a rhyme like 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymer than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
Biggi flow was untouchble and pacs Word was untouchble bit pac was story teller pac made u feel that why i think tupac is the goat
And ur soul
I will follow biggie to a house party but I will follow tupac to the battle field
I feel ya whodie
Niccolo Bay Area what!!!!! Biggie was nothing but battle ready
What he's saying is, if he wanted to just nod his head & have a good time, he'd be behind biggie... If he wanted to nod his head & challenge this white man's world infrastructure, he'd be behind Tupac...
You'd follow a Ballet Dancer to the battle field rather than a real drug dealer nigga?
D James / You sound stupid... Every drug dealer ain't a killer, but the way you just lump shit together, tells me all that I know about you... I don't care what whoever said, I was addressing the words coming out of your train of thought... Pac didn't even go to ballet school, mobb deep did... Pac went to a performance arts high school, & became a damn good actor for the big screen... Like I said before, you're the one caught up in this American stereotype life... Pac was black panther party to his soul... People like you on the sidelines believe that just because he talked about the streets means he was trying to become it...?? How do you sound, we are all from the streets, there's is no such thing as being from the streets equals gangsta, drugs, killings, etc... That's that Hollywood lie that you & the phony zombies believe in like y'all believe in Jesus & god... The fact you're saying you'd follow anybody speaks for itself what kind of person you are, a follower... I don't have to follow Pac or Malcolm x, I'm living the exact reality they're speaking of, & until the power that be, or people like your demon ass kill me, I'm still here... Troll all you want, you're behind a keyboard, not in my reality...
2 pac was a beast. aggressive, passionate, gangsta, loving, poetic, ambitious, creative, political, brave, honest, and so many more words i can mention. nobody is better than him
He wanted to say Tupac, but being from the east coast and affiliated to Jay..he couldn't admit it..
***** I grew up in Queens and I always liked Tupac over biggie, jay z...I got heat for it but I need deep down inside..he was leaps and bounds over them...I remember I get around first pop up on video music box in 93...I was like this dude is going to be big and 3 years he accomplished more than anyone could ..Tupac, Nas, Styles P...
I agree
+Jabril0nly1 Kindnot mobb deep were the only ones to respond
Next time grown folks talk nigga close ur mouth 2pac on mob deep u think murda music is the best ....?... The best is 2pac ..nas&mob deep,Jay z or puffy are alive but they water down nothing but garbage music we talking bout pac 16 years ago and he still sound as if he in the booth on some new shit in Africa jungles they know pac so is middle east Asia I'm done....
reped oakland, born in harlem, raised in baltimore
They were both great but I think I would have to give it to Tupac.
There is no comparison. Biggie was more lyrical, and Pac had more to say (as in a message) POINT BLANK PERIOD!!
True story. Great answer.
music is about being felt regardless what genre 2pac was the most felt in rap bob marley the most felt in his genre of music
Thank you
@E Gaynes You're the most controversial troll on this comment section, so shut your groupie ass up. And why did you reply to every post that isn't in favor of Biggie? You must be a 16 year old white girl trapped in a grown nigga's body to be taking these kinds of L's! Hahahahaha.
no great answer, listing 2 pac lyrics and listing 2 biggie lyrics
My head says Biggie, my heart says Pac.
Real talk
pretty much how it is
real shit
neonspec heart and head pac all the way bro dont worry its the right choise dont worry
Nigga follow your head don't toy with your emotions
This is the way I look at it
Biggie was the better rapper skill wise, however Pac was a lot more influential
I agree
100% agree
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Facts
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I agree. Biggie didn't do enough quantity-wise. When I was little, I liked them both for different reasons. It depends on the day. Ready to Die is undeniable though.
big was on another level lyrically. pac made more albums and his grind was harder. but if we talking music, u already know its BIG
@@lubui2583 hell no it ain't! Pac gotta way better songs and albums!
Better lyricist of the two: Big. Better rapper, bigger influence, bigger cultural impact and political impact: Pac. They brought two different things to the table but both were great.
Bullshit. Pac had also better lyrics
@@Tizi187 Naw Biggie was a better lyricist obviously
2Pac wins this easy, Biggie had great flow but as an artist he was nowhere near 2Pac.
***** love biggie but pac had the whole package
Tim Kruse Yeah Biggie is sort of 1 dimensional in terms of what he rapped about. He had a great flow and was lyrically good but like that other guy said, 2Pac had it all and this gives him the edge over Big.
TheLazyAngel89 fuck outta here
TheLazyAngel89 Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
Makaveli250 Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
2pac the realest and Biggie the illest
2Pac wins all day. He had the bigger impact
I agree but Biggie was that dude tho
MrThekidisback True...biggie has some of the best lines of all time. Minus the gay shxts he used to say
shotput4life Yeah word. And he only said something gay once.
Ivory Jones EXACTLY!!
MrThekidisback at least twice.... in one more chance he says something about having sex with a girl while her man mast**btes
2pac all the way. Shout out from South Africa!
biggie had the natural talent.. but pac had the PASSION. Thats what separates the two..
Yes yes yes
Passion for what?
@@enosger LMAO,biggie was better hands down
Passion ? Biggie had that too but was a dude that flowed better than anyone else. Eminem himself rapped on a Biggie track. Never on a pac album
@@MrSupersaiyangoku lol are you serious? he's done a whole album for tupac you must be dumb
2Pac's mind was on a different level in terms of positivity and social awareness. He cared about the people.
Now thats one thing I couldnt say about Biggie.
Bleek dodged that bullet like a pro, LOL.
Hell ya he did. I think this is the best answer I have ever heard for the debate.
Pac's depth and versatility was and still is unmatched. Like Bleek said, you'll never hear anybody spit a record like Brenda's Got a Baby. Hearing that track sounds like it came from an award-winning, best-selling novel the way Pac tells that story. The definition of "lyricist" has changed from generation to generation. Even with current artists today, the term "lyricist" is so messed up that people can't even agree on who is one anymore. Maybe is the major influx of hate that's also creeped in to the Hip Hop community in the past few years. But when you spit some shit like:
Somebody wake me, I'm dreaming
I started as a seed, the semen
Swimming upstream, planted in the womb while screaming
On the top was my Pops, my mama screaming stop
From a single drop this is what they got
I can't help but be floored on how this dude can just open your mind and fill it with a picture like that.
Not to disrespect my peoples but my pops was a loser/
Only plan he had for mama was to fuck her and abuse her
That Brenda’s Got a Baby song by PAC is TRASH 🗑
@stryfetc1 Pac is more versatile than Biggie, he has so many different styles
@@IJones-yz6qmWhat? 😂 nothing so real can ever be trash
@@dxsh8853Pac can’t hang w Biggie
2PAC HANDS DOWN HAITI LOVES TUPAC BTW JUST WANNA THROW THAT OUT THERE HES WORTH MORE THAN MANY CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS TO US CUZ HE MADE US LOOK AT OURSELF INWARD AND TRY TO START THE CHANGE FROM THERE AND THATS A SUPERPOWER BELIEVE THAT
I think Bleek hit the nail on the head. You can't compare the two and both are great artist. 2Pac's Makaveli album is a work art. Biggie lyrical flow is second to none. Seeing that Jay-Z has matured to the artist he has, I wish Biggie and Pac would have had the opportunity to have done the same. Can you imagine 2Pac with a Pharrell production or Biggie with a Mike Will Made it beat? The bar for rap would have been set so far, those two artist would have further propel Rap music as the dominant music genre.
***** the point I was making, if Big and Pac had access to Jay-Z producers (Mannie Fresh, Timbaland, Pharell) I can only imagine the songs they would have produced. btw...I don't see 2Pac working with Yeezy but a Big/Jeezy collab would have been something. and also in reference to Mike Will Made It...."Beach is better" he did with Jay-Z is fiyah.
***** Pac said he didn't want to keep rapping before he died.
2pac changed the way you viewed the ghetto and made songs like Brenda, Dear Mama, Keep your Head Up etc
You cannot compare !
You do know Pac didn't write brendas got a baby right? Lil 1/2 has the credits for that song
Yung God who wrote it?
capoislamort100 Lil 1/2 Dead. which is also snoop doggs cousin
Yung God Don't believe everything you hear, 2pac wrote that song based on a true story. It was based on a local homicide that happened in his city. Lil 1/2 dead had no part in the creation of that song, he simply disliked the fact that 2Pac got signed to Interscope records before him, because he was also a well underground artist at the time in Oakland and was mad that 2pac, who started as a roadie/backup dancer got signed first.....
@@holiday42020 pac wrote that song at the age of 20 give him his flowers and stop hating
NAME ONE BIGGIE SONG THAT IS AS DEEP AS "BLASPHEMY"....I'LL WAIT
Things Done Changed is still a classic and accurate to this day
***** STILL ISN'T DEEP AS "BLASPHEMY"
MrJeffmurphy
Lord knowz is
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Biggie have none we understood da
QUESTION
that's y ppl naming PAC song not biggie
sum naming PAC song that they
think is deeper than BLASPHEMY
Am I the only one who thought he wanted to tupac but didn't want to deal with the back lash
I agree lolll...or at least in seem that way to me too!
I think Bleek knows Pac is better but he didn't want to say it because he cool with Jay-Z (Who is a Biggie fan).
Absolutely he said there is no comparison
2 Legends!!! Pac's delivery and emphasis on his topic of choice grabbed you to the point where you could feel his pain, the trials and tribulations, and the emotion coming through his lyrics. If you couldn't feel it, you might want to check your pulse. Biggie on the other hand, had awesome flow and timing. He was a true lyricist. They're both GOATs in retrospect, period...
Well said and perfect. Salute bro👍🏿
biggie's flows and stories in his songs is what I look form, he's just the better rapper, maybe tupac was more famous but I can put any song from biggie and just ENJOY it
CrazyDiamond Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
Technically Biggie is the better rapper clearly.
However, rap is more than technicality and 2Pac proved it as he had the whole package as a person which transcended into his music, hence peoples' understanding and emotional connection with him/his message.
No one can be compared to Pac. Dead or alive, NO ONE. Yes, I am a Tupac fan since forever but still, I'm trying to be objective. Pac was a philosopher who was able to reach all races, ages and religions. And I'm white. P.S. It turns my stomach around when I hear people mentioning Drake, Wayne etc., as possibly greatest or some other one season club hit ,,as the shit''. Have people gone so dumb?!
BigDonLennon Hahaha, true my friend, you just made me laugh so hard.
PAC had 6 albums before he died not to mention the soundtracks and movies before his death.
technically 7 you could throw thug life in there
Pacs more iconic but biggie is just too fucking lyrical......ahead of his time
Super Facts
way too true
B.I.G. had a better flow, Pac had better lyrics
+MrJLD94 no...........no.......biggie was nice!!!!!!!!pac makes great music...
+Pat We can definitely agree that both rappers were nice. Just giving my opinion that Pac was better lyrically, but I don't know anyone who can touch Biggie's flow.
Tupac hands down
PAC Was Only On Death row For 9 months and sold more den biggie #2pac greatest of all times
Pac had 3 albums before that .. and had many movies out .. BIG literally just dropped his FIRST album.. when Pac released his fourth he was fresh out of jail and had a lot of attention so he sold around the same as BIG sold album wise at the end of 1995, in total tho, BIG outsold him in 1995 off the back of his video blowing his album up, then Pac dropped again in 1996 and had classic like California Love etc, and BIG didn’t do much for 1996 apart from features and record for Life After Death .. so you understand Pac didn’t have a platnium album until 1995 and he released his first in 1991
FTL excuses excuses excuses “if” if was 5ft we would all be drunk 😵 pac was a all round better artist then biggie I love big but compare him to pac is not fair biggie just got start like u just said pac showed you in every album he grew you can’t say that about every artist “that every album the come out with is better the the last one “facts” look I’m not going to argue with you pac is the 🐐
FTL bro that didn’t make sense all I was saying is pac sold more records on deathrow then biggie sold in his career pac has the first double album cd to go platinum he’s the 🐐 u ain’t got to like it just respect it 💯
PAC handz down...yur playjn yurself if u think otherwise...pac could flow like a SOB and deliver murder on wax yet capture the hearts of men and women young and old with his passion and wisdom...all at like 25 years old...i love me some BIG but come on now...PAC was like Elvis n Bob Marley in a lil street niggaz body with tha soul of a revolutionary!
biggie is a better lyricist pac has bigger impact on the culture
+BAW News I disagree with you.
Darius Brown biggie being a better because of wordplay , metaphor and bars... pac was not in to that but his storytelling is crazy
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you do realize pac dumb down alot of his lyrics on purpose so the the female listeners could relate more to his music?becuase he was smart enough to know that women actually go out and "pay" for the music. the niggas on the corner giving props to nice lyrics usually never buy real music.so just becuase he didnt get extra lyrical on every song doesnt mean he was less then a lyricist then biggie in short pac recorded over 350 songs biggie only recorded like 40 songs out the of the 350 songs created honetly ide say half of those songs he was very lyrical so thats 175 songs compared to biggies 40.lol.go listen to when thugs cry,fucking with the wrong nigga ,blasphame alot of his album songs were very lyrical he dumb down the radio hits a little to sell more records.which was smart
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wasnt saying biggie didnt sell i was just telling you why pac rapped the way he did.& you probably havent heard most of his songs.he was better in my book becuase he didnt lie like biggie did in his raps.all he raps about is being a player which probally wasnt true into he bacame famous.he raps about "a one room shack"which his own mother denied & sayed he never had to struggle he was just telling stories,but if i didnt hear as many songs like you havent i could see why you would feel the way you do.but either way he did it the right way ide rather make 350 songs & sell over 80 million then make 40 songs & sell 12 million.but thats just me
pac had better substance to his lyrics, biggie had better flow.
Big was a better lyricist but Tupac was bigger than Rap music. He was a legendary musician on the level of Bob Marley. His music came straight from his soul to yours. He made you think about the state of society and question it.
+BabatundeW pac was better lyricsist
Define lyricist?
Before he died he had; 2Pacalypse Now (1991), Strictly-4-My Niggaz (1993), Me Against The World (1995), All Eyez On Me (1996), and Makaveli (1996).
“The only things that interest me in the U.S. are Tupac Shakur, Allen Ginsberg and Jackson Pollock, I don’t need a visa to access their work. I lose nothing.”
That's how a Vladimir Putin adviser responded when questioned about the recent United States sanctions.
I guess that's only a debate in New York because everybody else know it was 2pac that was better overall
Nah everyone doesn't know that.
Definitely not... big was the better rapper overall and I love pac but can't lie tho if big had the amount of time in the game that pac had it wouldn't even be an argument
On what!!
biggie was the more skillful rapper. pac was the greater artist.
True, 2pac is bigger than rap but Biggie was the more skillful rapper.
LordHipHop _ loool read your comments again, you dont get to ask me about emotions. I used remedial as a slur but you're proving it to be true.
LordHipHop _ The mere fact that you wrote a comment, is proof that it evoked some sort of emotion.
Not to mention calling the man's opinion "bullshit". It was a fair assessment from where I'm standing.
Of course they're all artists by definition, but Pac was more adept at the art form. He had a song for every subject matter and he poured his heart and soul into every track.
Again, this is our opinion and you're welcome to yours. However your approach was borne out of emotion. You didn't stop to ascertain the nature of RUclips comments.
FYI they're mostly opinions.
You could have finished it with, "I believe Biggie is better, that's my opinion" And Kamal, would probably have said, thats cool.
But instead you turned into a "remedial" BITCH.
He got you good though.
And before you get emotional again, i have both artists albums in my collection, i got mad respect for Biggie and Pac, both are great in their own right. I prefer Pac cause his music lifts me. Remember this is my opinion, am not saying whos better etc..
I respect Bleeks answer because I feel the same way they're both great and they're both living legends #RIP2Pac #RIPBig
Let's be honest here. Pac more famous because of controversy and looks. I remember back in the day, most people saw BIG as the best rapper alive.. after they both die, Pac kinda blew up on a different cultural level.. he was never seen as a revolutionary when he was a live that's for sure. But he did create a lot of songs that brought up social issues in America, and that legacy got stronger after he died.
2 albums and he even considered 😂😂😂 Big the GOAT
thats biggies fault pac worked harder way more albums....pac will always be greater fact
I know, right. People act like Biggie was in the game for 3 years and Tupac was in the game for 15 years. Tupac was just next level PROLIFIC.
Every single song big put out became a hit you cant say the same for pac at all
It you ask the entire world tupac or biggie who is better , the entire new York 90% will say biggie,because is biggie is from new York and he raps about new York, go some were else the answer is tupac,if you ask the world tupac 75% biggie 25%
Tupac is from Harlem bruh. If you go around the world people will say Pac had more 'Impact' and big is more lyrical.
maSO6P 10000 Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
Baltimore and Biggie Was Better
Only in the states and circumsized aroumd NY people say Big. All over the world we say Pac. They aint even on the same level.
Pac by a LONG shot. If you're a Pac fan/ have a Pac album, you know why.
Unpopular opinion: Biggie is way overrated.
I would say he's overrated in comparison to 2Pac, but as one of the "greats" he definitely isn't in my book......Biggie possibly had the best flow of all time.....but I'd definitely take Nas over him and maybe Jay-Z during his Reasonable Doubt-Blueprint 1 stage
Nope pac is way overrated and brenda got a baby is the corniest most ghetto trash song ever
so basically Memphis knows Pac is Greater
Except Pacs first few albums were weak
Both Pac and Biggie made timeless music R.I.P to the rap GODS
2PAC. All day and Tomorrow.
And Cali is STILL Poppin.
The fact that Biggie had 2 albums and still in the conversation says it all.
And I remember people saying it b4 his house 2nd album came out frfr
Well I don’t think he had a chance at all to make any more albums
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i kinda looked at it the opposite way. fact that pac had so many more records and was only one year older shows how hard he worked
@@devangpatel5227 it works both ways. Two goats. They're on the Rap Mt Rushmore
It's not fair but for 3 albums the man held his own
nick houston Well said.... PAC could rap about any subject and pull it off... B.I.G. Lyrically Niceeee...
Thank u Danielle Sims and Dari Bn, usually I'm on the net protecting our legends and educating others like u guys are doing but thanks to y'all I don't have to say anything today. Y'all covered everything.
2PAC
2Pac has a better message and stood for something better, he had the best catalogue and the best character.
BIG was the better MC and the better wordsmith...so you cant compare the two. They were both great at what they did but they were on different levels
Biggie is known only in US. Nobody in the world knew about biggie until maybe 2005-06.
Where did this fact come from? What changed in 2005?
@@stuartmccormick3977 duets: the final chapter album
But the question was who's the better rapper!? Not artist or message!
Vlad was tryna squeeze an answer out of Memphis Bleek.
biggie as a lyricist is easily 2pac's superior and he had great albums and told great stories however I forgot who the quote is attributed to but "what someone says can be forgotten but how they made you feel will never be" that really sums up 2pac to me.....message,passion,energy is what 2pac had behind him that no one really matched me perhaps to a lesser extent dmx tapped into that but not like 2pac.
CAM8689 so basically he was a weaker musician just a better public speaker
Not quite taking nothing away from biggie and his talent which was beastly lyrics,flow,story telling etc....but lyrically there were rappers just as good if not better during that era that had the same subject matter..2pac was more versatile as an overall artist in his subject matter and just making more universally felt music...Biggie was mostly from the block music wheras 2pac was relatable everywhere including the block one reason he simply tends to see more love all over
Great statement and so accurate. Biggie was the better MC easily for me! But Tupac’s message, influence and ability to connect tone poll through his music is unrivalled. His music is more important but I prefer Biggie n
i'm from london and 2pac hit more ppl around wrold in my book , but i like both of them !!! 2pac & Biggie #1
Great answer I don't compare them myself
2pac > biggie
niko holico you're wrong
like I said pac was a poet, icon, revolutionary, pac make you think about society and so on. However, biggie is way better emcee than pac. lyrics, flow, moving a crowd, party rap, mafioso rap, story telling biggie hands down.
Pac is very underrated as a lyricist and his flow was way better
FOH Biggie's flow was flawless
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I love Bleek... He's slept on hardcore. Ive always dug him ... all the way back to his very first album the "The Coming of Age"
I personally like Big's 2 albums better than Pac's 5 albums. But that's just me.
You ain't lying my dude. Everybody knows BIG was a better Mc. PAC had the the same flow in damn near every song he made. I really started listening to PAC after he died. You can't deny his lyrical content though but I couldn't feel dude like BIG.
Big's Ready to die references come from 2pac
I think you're wrong but explain what you mean.
aikens todd you fucking crazy Big was better lyrically but Pac was that dude. Pac the realest rapper ever, bar none.
You've just stated that BIG was better lyrically but PAC was that dude. The question was who was the better rapper not the realest. Were you even around back then? As I stated I didn't mess with PAC till after he passed and actually felt what he was saying but as far as actual skills are concerned he just wasn't that nice. I actually bought ME AGAINST THE WORLD when it dropped because of that track OLDSCHOOL where he was talking about growing up in NYC. I felt that track because I could relate but the rest of that album was alright and I gave it away, there may have been some gems on there but remember when it came out nobody was checking for PAC like that. He got more famous when he started getting into shit and thats all facts.
sounds like he wants to say pac but hes too scared to b/c of the ny hate
Biggie was a good rapper but PAC was acting and rapping and that's why people always talk about PAC cause nobody could do what he did.biggie is just known for his raps and nothing else tupac was educated and smarter just look at PACs interviews. PAC sold more albums therefore PAC is better the people liked him better that's why they bought his albums and that's why he's in the Guinness world record book.
Bill Samuel Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
Dude STFU all that shit you said doesn't make him a better artist. Biggie's albums aged way better than any of Pacs besides AEOM
We talking about who is the better RAPPER . So yeah the answer is easy . Biggie
I disagree with that, Biggie did have a message songs like Juicy, Sky's The Limit, Miss U. Biggie had messages in his songs
Pac hands Down!.....Greater Catalog just with those 4 or 5 Albums...
Dam Good Actor too...
Biggies word play was good but I feel didn't really have any meaning Nas Vs PAC would be a better battle for sure
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If Biggie only had 2 albums and still in the conversation. I have to give it to Big.
PAC was a lot better. MATH was/is better than RTD and AEOM is better than LAD. So Many Tears is better than any Biggie song.
2pac came before biggie. Biggie wasn’t known until 2pac let him perform in one of his shows so I would say 2pac then biggie. I think comparing to two is unfair because they are different rappers with different strengths and weaknesses. It’s like comparing oranges to apple and let’s not forget music is subjective. Good music is good music lol
Also, if there was no 2pac, there would be no biggie and remember this, biggies beats sounded more west coast after he met 2pac and biggies style changed and started talking about death. 2pac himself even mentioned this.
Biggie was one of the best lyrical rappers ever, that's undisputed anyone that say otherwise is smoking dust, but as a global icon and the peoples lives that's been touched including my own, and besides the antics how down to earth and real he was in his raps, and how his flow made every beat he was on instead of the other way around cause a lot of bigs songs you could pop a hot ny rapper on it and it'll still be hot like nas, jay, big pun, big l, etc. But you couldn't put anyone on Brenda's got a baby or Hail Mary because his message and emotion transcended, at the end of the day they are different and was great artists which is all that matters they both deserve respect, no one gets amped up to say led zeppelin is better than Rolling Stones cause they're both great in their own right, respect real hiphop, RIP to two of the greatest! Honorable mention to big l, big pun, pimp c, etc. who held it down for hiphop
juniortim33 Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
Pacs better hands down numbers dont lie!!!!
Big sold more tho soo?
@@tommyhunnits27 home boi you need too google before you reply how old are you again jit
@@bangembanzz3288 go look at big life after death record sales sold more than all pacs album facts only go check
Compare Luther Vandross to Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield to Nat King Cole, Chuck Barry to Little Richard, Denzel to Sidney Poitier, Malcolm to Martin saying who's better than who... Supporting each other is better. Tupac & Biggie did the best they could to make it.
Vlad stop messing with Pac and Big don't do it let them rest in peace.
Tupac and Biggie i hate how people argue about this If i was sad i would come him and listen to pac if i felt like i just wanted to relax at home i would listen to Biggie. Biggie lyrics and flow are hands down better the pacs but .Pacs messages and Life lessons are hands down better
Both are 👑 R.IP ♥️
biggy music sonically was better, and flow, style and delivery was more attractive to the ear ... but biggy was simply a good rapper/entertainer ... one of many... pac was one of those special people that come once in every few generations ... thug immortal the thug angel prophet .... warrior ... eternal peace (rip) ... thats why here (UK), jamaica, Africa, Middle East, Bazil ... revolutionary minds and activists of this generation, rebels in africa, etc all follow pac ... if he lived he was a danger to the system!
Pac is The King of Rap period. The most well rounded, Rapper with the most presence, most diverse and the most famous of all. However i thing Biggie was a better word smith, and had a smoother flow.
2pac goat
Both guys were talented. The fact that people are still listening to and talking about their music years after releasing only 2 and 4 albums means who's best is a matter of preference.
thats a great point that even 20 years later they are both still so relevant...I also think the way the rap game has been for the last decade and a half give people alot more reasons not to forget them especially the people who grew up in that era (they made a mistake in the interview pac had five albums and big had two)
Mike Gillins man I grew up a PAC an Biggie fan
+Joseph Randazzle nothing wrong with that but its funny how some people think its a crime to like both lolll
Hip hop music is based on lyrics so big was better. It does not matter how many albums you had if they were mediocre and you dropped ready to die. Pac is known through the world by his trial and tribulations, yes. We are talking about hardcore lyrics in rap, popularity could just be about good media moves nothing to do with skills. Big was a better lyricist. I like pac as well.
Listenin to 2pacalypse now that has more meaning than both biggies albums
You are entitled to your opinion.I believe B.I.G. was better.
You must love Rick Ross
And what do you mean by lyrical ... songs that have meaning or songs that just sound good
shawnmajicwand dude chill with the hate BIG FOR LIFE
Reasons why Pac had the greater impact worldwide
Most people overseas dont speak English just learn basics of British English so it's impossible for an uneducated to understand NY or LA slang by a 90bpm instrumental. Biggie told good stories with an amazing flow but we didn't understand what he was saying. Not the same with Pac because his voice and delivery combined with signal words everybody on the world understands created a picture in mind what other great lyricists just can do to his own people. For example when Biggie says "I put hoes in NY onto DKNY/Miami, D.C. prefer Versace" we didn't know what he was about but when Pac says "crack sale - black male" or "Hennessey - enemy" we felt his pain and the problems of black society back then. To summarize: what BIG gave to you with his lyrics Pac gave it with his voice, delivery and melancholic instrumentals to the whole world.
Bleek gotta be sick getting asked all these questions about other rappers lmao
Why are people saying Pac had no lyrical ability but had the largest impact on the world? If that was true he'd be Al Sharpton on record. He was good at spittin and keeping your attention with subjects that you can identify with which is why he sold so much...
think they meant 2pac didn’t have better punchlines than biggie but again they are 2 different rappers with different strengths and weaknesses so no one is really better than the other, just different and let’s not forget, music is subjective. We all have different taste in music so tbh comparing the two is unfair and trying to compare them is basically the same as trying to pick sides. Is west coast better or east coast or do oranges taste better or do apples taste better? You get what I’m saying?
There isn't a fool alive that was living and breathing hip hop from when Pac and Big first came out until now that will say Big is better. Sure NY cats from where Big is from might say he won, but I'm talking ANYONE that was old enough to understand hip hop, lived hip hop back in those days and isn't a Crook homer, will tell you it's not even an argument. I think the bigger question is who was better Big vs. Wu Tang.
***** How old are you?
***** So when Wu and Big were out you were around 10? The reason I brought it up is because to me Wu played to a little more older more diverse audience, I mean out here in Cali you had whiteboy skaters (back in those days not too many blacks skated), middle class, to bangers who listened to them. Big wasn't hitting out here obviously because we loved Pac. Out here I would say at that time Wu was hitting harder.
You're an idiot. When biggie & pac was alive, the great debate was "Who's the best MC" biggie? jay z? or Nas?... Not Tupac. he was never brought up in such disscussions.
***** they only asked that in New York fam. Let's be logical
Jordan Merrell
No, across the globe, here in england that was the topic on eveyones list.
if you like to listen to 95% fairytales, and good lyrical metaphors, flows, pick big
lol Pac is crazy for sure
man took on a whole coast by hisself
They dont make men like they used to
Pac - the better heart and soul poetic hardcore rapper.
Biggie - the better nyc flow story telling rapper.
Pac shit made you feel it cause it had meaning and you just felt that shit
Biggie shit made you feel it on some hot bars he killed that verse type shit.
pac and biggie are both good
You can't compare the 2 because the had two different styles. If compared, Tupac was a better motivational, poetic, song writing rapper. Biggie was the best MC based off of flow, delivery, lyrical skill, different styles. Both Greats. Pac had 5 albums before he died and Biggie had 2.
PAC HELPED ME WITH MY DEPRESSION AND SUICIDAL THOUGHTS WITHOUT HIM I WOULD OF DIED 😭😭😩🙏🏼
That says it all bro 🔥
by the way if u judge with first 2 albums ,NAS is waaaaaaay better than BIG waaaay better
Niggaz that say Biggie more lyrical than 2pac must've heard "keep ya head up" 500 times n a roll n nothing else like WTF bitch listen to his verse on Still I rise,Letter to the President,Troublesome n not only was his lyrical but had messages in them lyrics like how tf is he more lyrical than PAC bitch PAC is a lyrical Genius!!! Foh!
Anthony Gaines 2pac, in my opinion chose the "straight forward" style of rapping, none of that hidden messages stuff that other emcees do... He demonstrated PLENTY of times that he could match lyrics with Biggie at anytime if wanted....
Lyrically Pac was slept on.."i can make a muthafucka shake, rattle n' roll/a fully-liquor thug nigga quick to jab @ dem hoes"..dont care what NOBODY says he's got the greatest flow..shit was hard,straight forward and most importantly it was raw and straight from the heart..dat nigga made u feel what he was goin thru #ThugInPeace
+Killuminati “Tha_Don” King1990 pac could be lyrical when he wanted eg look how he held his own with meth and co on got my mind made up.
and troublsome 96 literally gives me goosebumps to this day.
never had a friend like me.
me personally biggie was good but i dont feel he was super lyrical. dude had flow.
super lyrical to me would be pun or big l or something
thanks.... unborn child
Anthony Gaines Skill??? Biggie skill was EXCLUSIVELY rhyming, Heavy D and Chubb Rock had THAT. Tupac could rhyme but was better at also being able to say what he wanted to say, keeping his message at the center. Biggie's rhymes were at the center, not his message. That's why he didn't say as much as Pac did, he couldn't. His rhymes were his driving force not his message. Biggie might have thought more diverse things than what his music show cases but he was capable of keeping it together in a rhyme 2Pac did. He was a poet in music. The message came first, then the rhyme. So what The Notorious B.I.G. was a better rhymes than Pac, so was Chubb Rock and Heavy D.
when most of your friends disappoint you.... listen to you ain't never had a friend like me
I hear big, I feel Pac?
Pac had more heart, and that touches people. People love Biggie, but people LOOOVE Pac, like really love him. Pac had a way of making you feel like you knew him, once again, because he had heart. Its more than the music.
people forget Life After Death was a double disk that shit was like 2 albums in one. i prefer quality over quantity anyway and Pac didn't really have a classic album imo Ready to die and Life After Death are better than any albums Pac made. To each is own but i'll take biggie lyrically, flow wise, and story telling ability. They both Legends tho
personally i feel all eyez on me shits on life after death but both were great albums.. and even the makaveli and me against the world was better
***** me against the world is a classic
quality over quantity? that's ironic cuz Pac was on the verge of changing the world.
he had a following and was about to get into politics, so I guess will never know.
We got money for wars but can't feed the poor...
*****
All eyes on me is terrible. Just a complete mash up of boring songs with a bunch of crappy featuring artist. Ready to die was a masterpeice and rated 112 on the 500 best musical albums of all time. making it the highest rap album on the list, It started with biggie being born and ended with him committing suicide. the album is constructed like a story, then life after death ironically released after his death. and idiots like you mention "All eyes on me"?
I think if BIG wasn't the number one rival of Tupac in 1996, Biggie fame would've died a year or 2 after he died.. it's because Pac, we still remember Biggie
Nah I don’t think so. Doesn’t make sense because Biggie sold more records than Pac. Life after death was the first rap album to go Diamond and he had the record for the best selling rap album for years!!! Why not Pac....? Biggie was actually a bigger rap star than Pac before their deaths and he is sampled MUCH more in rap music, like MUCH more!!
Pac has a bigger influence for sure after his death and on a wider range of people, because of his emotionally touching music. I love both either way.
He doesn't want to choose cuz he's from NY and he doesn't want to say Pac. But he knows what time it is
0:52 Bleek said it himself " You can't compare Biggie to 2Pac! 2pac got about forty albums!! damn Pac raps Biggie under the table!