Making Fatwood -- VR to IntenseAngler
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Can't find fatwood, well IntenseAngler made a vid on how to make it. Thought it was a really cool idea and something I never thought to try. This was one of those things I just had to try for myself.
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What I've always wondered about this is if the wood is actually being impregnated, or if it is simply being coated on the outside. If the wood isn't soaking up the sap, then you might as well just carry sap by itself, because you can light that alone or smear it on a stick when you are ready for a fire and light it there. Otherwise you are just carrying around sticky pieces of wood that could just as easily be made on the fly. True fatwood is different because it is made when the wood is alive and sap flows through the cellulose. When the wood is dead all the fibers are hardened and closed, and it probably doesn't absorb much. It just coats the surface.
By far the coolest part about this is that you and Trout had such an obviously good time out there... he was smiling from ear to ear the entire time :-)
Man, you really rocked this video by the way! Loved the side by side and water tests, as well as the discussion on the potential usage scenarios. Thumbs up all the way!
Really appreciate the kind words and shoutout btw... means alot Brother.
P.S. Be sending you a PM here soon....
Don't let the sap boil, heat it just enough to melt. Boiling evaporates the natural turpentine and reduces it's effectiveness.
If you have ever used the real natural fatwood it's tough to want anything else. Any where you have pine trees ( yellow pine is best) you should have fatwood . Look for stumps, when a tree dies the sap will run back into the stump. When a live tree is cut down the stump continues to produce resin for a long time.
I have 92 acres that were clear cut in 1949 and has regrown a beautiful oak and poplar forest. the old pine stumps are at their prime !!! I roll them out with my back hoe, pressure wash them and saw them up. I sell it for 3 bucks a pound. I save all my saw dust and put it in metal ice trays, soak it with melted paraffin to hold it together in a "cake". The resin and wax burn extremely HOT. I slice it into cubes 2" square. The cubes (1) will start any fire. They also make excellent candles and torches.
To make a candle cut a pop can in half. put a cube in the bottom half and light it. slowly put just enough water in the can to float the cube. This keeps the cube from burning all at once. as the exposed part burns away, the cube will float higher exposing more fuel.
+BigChiefNoWashieTribe Will white pine work as well?
Rob Yeomans It depends on if and how much resin is in the stump. Live trees often "Bleed" resin/sap that can be collected without the tree being cut down. I have a huge one that bleeds constantly, it's a "gold Mine"
First off, I hope to get to do things like this with my son who was born last week. Kudos on being a good father. Second, thanks for passing this info on to the rest of us. I have a big pine thicket close by. I'll be heading over there soon.
Congrats on you son. Hope you're getting some sleep ; )
There is no greater influence for a healthy society than a good father.
Well done, Crocket!
I believe Trout has the makings of a true woodsman. I would not have thought of putting snow on the altoids tin to see if it was hot. You have taught him well, or did he teach you? LOL Fatwood is amazing stuff. I wouldn't go into the woods without a piece as it can save your life, especially in wet, cold conditions. Thanks for the lesson.
Hi Cr0cket. With all those pines in the background, you'd think there would be a couple that were blown over, leaving a stump. Here in eastern PA, the stump is where I find all the fat wood I use. Also, the knots that would be left on the tree that blown over [Pine-Knots...oddly enough] burn very hot and bright. Next outing, take a look for some blown over pines. Best of luck to you and your boys. Brings back memories.
Thanks so much for the video. It was lovely to see you and your son out together. AND, the making of the fatwood was inspiring not only as a skill, but as a modification to my own firekit. I was WOWed to see that I SHOULD use an altoids tin to carry whatever fire tinder I prefer INTO the bush, but once there, when it is gone, the TIN is a "cooker" and I can have a renewable source (endless?) of "fatwood" in a survival situation. The tin is both cooker, soaker and storage. I have added a new skill to my knowledge. PRICELESS. All the best to you and yours.
Trout is such a great boy, he's smiling all the time. Wish you all a great holiday.
I love watching this vid every now and then. I really enjoy finding new ways of lighting fire from natural tinders. Up here in PA, I always love to use the bark of a yellow birch, and my ferro rod. If you can find it in the right season/setting it works amazingly. It peels off in real small pieces, but has a 'tissue paper' consistency. A golf ball size bundle does the trick. Let me know if you have ever used it before or have yellow birch in your area.
I will def give this a try after watching John's video. Thanks for taking the time to record what you're up to, it's great to watch you interact with your boys. I can't wait to take my family camping and hiking.
Since we dont have a whole lot of highly resinous fatwood stumps in the mountains where im at in PA, I just bought a box of sticks from a guy in Georgia. The weather down south allows the pine trees to produce it way quicker and in much MUCH higher saturations so, they have it coming out of their ears! The stuff is really awesome compared to what I can find in my area and, a 10lb box has lasted me for 5 years!
So cool to see dad and son out there together and Mr. Trout is a cool kid . For those who don't have access to pine resin - Use turpentine and beeswax . Turpine is a product of pine trees and any good hardware store should have it . Thanks for your video and best wishes from New Mexico .
I've heard of fatwood, but have never tried it.
We grow pine, so I'm going to have to go out and gather some resin tomorrow since I'll be out in the pines anyway.
Thanks for sharing!
That is such a cool idea! I have some white pines out back that ooze resin all the time. I guess it's time to harvest some. Thanks for sharing!
very cool demo! The most cool part of this video is the fact that you are taking your boy out with you to teach him and create some valuable "time spent". Good times!
Good times spent with your son - he will remember that for a life time:) another way to make it is by dissolving pine sap in denatured alcohol letting small wood pieces soak or poured over sawdust to make Maya dust
That was fun watching that sap cook. I have a zip lock gallon size of real fatwood that is so sticky you cannot even touch it without getty soaked in sap. This is a good idea if not as good as the real thing. That intense Angler .....good stuff John. Nice video. I have used so many of his tips. Btw, rubbing alcohol works to get sap off your hands....good idea to keep some with you. Even hanging hammocks and tarps can get sticky. 2 days ago hanging hammock, I had to wait home to get the tree sap off my arms. As a retired carpenter, used to get sap on me constantly....alcohol gets it off no fuss....thanks for vid.
Can't remember if I showed it in this vid, but I will rub dirt on the sap (dry powdery dirt works best). That works if rubbing alcohol is not around.
Thanks again for the replies. Dirt does not cut it for me.....I hate bear cum on me....lol. We carpenters call it that in the trade. Keep making your cool videos...I hope to make it down there someday and have you as a guide.
excellent video crocket! fatwood is definitely my favorite firestarter. like it even more then any man made stuff i tried. if you're doing this "man made" fatwood, you might want to try boiling wood shavings in the sap, lots of fibers, lots of surface area for the sap to get into and takes a spark from ferro rod very well too. thank you for the vid
So I went out & collected a medicine bottle full of sap.
Used about 1/2 of it to make around 30 pieces of fatwood of various thicknesses out of oak & black walnut. My apartment smelled amazing. I think I prefer the black walnut. It seemed to absorb the sap more readily. I'm going to try other types of wood & see how they turn out.
I wrapped them all up in a piece of foil & the whole thing is about the size of a regular frozen burrito, so a good supply for a camping pack or bug out bag.
"THUMBS UP"........A well done, and well informed video CrOcket20. You're a good father, I could tell by the never-ending smile on your son's face.......They're too many kids out there without that ear to ear smile....Keep Safe!
I will be making a bunch of this stuff up on the weekend! It'll be great to have a free supply to add to my fire making kit. Vaseline cottonballs are great but sometimes its just too damp or humid and you need a little something more. And I have a tree right in front of my house that has ample sap waiting to be utilized.
I like to have a bundle of kindling sized fat wood handy in a tin or plastic. I use it to dry out damp wood that I find. A little goes a long way. Cotton balls only get it started. Fat wood is self sustaining. Nice video Crocket. Thanks to you and to intenseangler
this looks like a great idea! Thanks for sharing crocket. it's ability to still take a fire after getting wet seems very promising. Happy Holidays!
Great video. I was 50 years old before I learned about fatwood. Trout will have a leg up on me. Glad to see you and Trout doing testing in the woods and not in your kitchen. It just makes it better. Thanks.
Appreciate you watching. Hoping these type of activities will help instill an appreciation for the outdoors in my kids.
In honor of Trout, I dub these "Sparky Surefire"! Great idea, thanks Crocket & Beast. Tis a keeper!
Cool video,cool dad and son.Good 'ol days for sure.
Great video! Thanks for sharing that. I gotta find some pitch! Good to see you and your son having fun!
My Dad and I used to dip un-peeled potatoes in hot pitch and they cooked in the pitch and tasted great after you peel off the coating. We had a pitch pot and used it year after year. Guess I better get a pitch pot going again. Take care!
Way to go, guys. Science can be fun. Man, if Altoids knew of all the things people use their tins for, you'd think they would have patented it.
Wonderful video. I especially liked the burn comparison. I'm still quite a novice at all this, so these videos are very helpful. Thank you!!
+Raymond Lesher Glad it could help.
Awesome man. Great vid! I will have to try this next time im out around some pines. great to see you getting to spend time with your son!
First time viewer, really enjoyed the video.... Well done! Lookin' forward to many more (sub'd). I like your style and delivery of the topic....Keep 'em coming.
+Arthur Cropper Appreciate that Arthur.
Great video. Thank you for being a dad and taking your son more dads should share life like this. You are a real MAN. :)
i wish my dad would do this with me:(
@Josh - Sorry Josh , my dad was much the same way with me and my own son and I haven't spoken in years . I tried , but sometimes life works out that way . Maybe you should look into Scouting . Wish the best for you - Old man .
A good idea is to find a neighbor with a Pine tree and ask to harvest sap when it's soft in the summer. Then take a soup can to liquefy it (not boil) and dip pencil-sized pieces of wood. These cool and harden to make 2 inch pieces that fit well into a pill bottle with laundry lint for a water proof fire starter (or 5) for your kit.. Never know when you might get wet and cold and need fire....Good vid and kudos for teaching your kiddo.
Trouts camera shyness reminds me of Kat's : )
Fun to just get out, build a fire & try some outdoor craft. Good stuff as always.
OK that is a bad ass idea!
I was thinking during the video.. if you saved and washed out an old tuna can it would be great for melting your sap. I'd improvise some chop sticks for picking up and moving the wet fatwood too.
I think I'm going to have to try that,..
Thanks for the tip.. I'm going to check out that guys channel.
Excellent vid. I saw the other vid too. Like this idea and in reality, this makes more sense than char cloth. After all when ya need to make it, you need cotton. Means giving up a layer of potential warmth. Seems better to use the natural resources first. Thnx for sharing....Scott
Crocket, How, and where did you harvest that sap? Really a great video ! Thanks to you, and IntenseAngler.
Love it! Definitely going to try this. Never knew this could be done but now it totally makes since. Thanks for the great vid!
Well now I need to try this. It may be a Winter Bugout idea. Oh I got the Fallkniven blades too. FYI. Later
This is a must have. I have to make a batch of these since Oct 2015 my best friend and I going camping for 4 days in New York. I think I will learn the craft first and then turn up the heat while in the woods and teaching him how. That boy of yours Crocket is going to be a chip off the old block.
I make fatwood with those bits of candles that usually get thrown away. But here's the thing, I use near punk wood to do it. That way it goes right to the heart of the wood and you know it's done when it sinks. This would really work with resin and then be real fatwood. With my wax made fatwood, I can take shavings and they will light with a ferrocerium rod.
John is awesome! Always something to learn from that fella,
Great Video. Almost like making pine pitch less a couple ingredients. But definitely educational. Thanks for that.
You guys are a great inspriation! The water proof test was a smart addition. Thanks for sharing... peace and best wishes -
Always fun to do a little experimenting....even more so with your kids! I've never made fatwood....guess I'm lucky it's pretty easy to find naturally where I live in old pine stumps....but that looks like it burns really well. I use fatwood for most of my fire starting...even at home..it's great stuff. Also reminds me of another good and similar tinder. Take some parrafin wax, melt it and cut strips of jute twine...nice easy starter as well. Thanks for the vid and keep it up!
I can see me watching all your videos tonight, great video and realy great to see some interesting and cool ideas. Smokey.
Conifer stump wood has the most resin in it naturally. Jack pine has the highest level of resin and was the wood once used to produce nitro glycerine. The resin was rendered out and then distilled to make the nitro liquid.
Really cool! That stuff takes a flame like crazy!
I love seeing the videos with you and the kids crockett. I hope someday I can do the same eventually
Loved the video man, i made my own fatwood right after i saw this video and it works great! Keep up the good work!!
Great vid, and thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Do I sense a Spyderco Stretch review in the near future?
The BM Griptilian 551 you reviewed and the Stretch are two of my favorite folders.
Another interesting thing to try and I'm not 100% sure it will work. Try to build some kind of container above the pine resin burning. You're trying to catch the vapors. What happens is that vapor should turn back into a solid thus making your supply last longer. Again it's probably not practical at all but just thought I would share.
Kids are everything, thanks for posting.
I really like that idea!! I saw John do it on his channel. I am going to make some tomorrow!
Great idea, i was also thinking that a smaller size would be a better use of the pine pitch.
I will have to try this with some simple tooth picks. Might be small, but what one is looking for is the phase inbetween the spartk and a good nest of fire. So maybe tooth picks would be just enough in size and performance with s.a.w.c. being considered. Nice to see padawan with the Jedi in the woods. ;))
Really awesome tip and too. Thanks for sharing a really great knowledge. I thought about the snow too Jack. Wondering if it makes a difference if you let it cool slow or fast and would suggest porous wood like Balsa wood and see if it works better or worse.
Dude.... Thanks, This is information I can use! I am going to experiment with Balsa wood or a dry spalted punky wood because it's more porous, so I'm guessing it should absorb more sap. We'll see?... but forget the little altoids tin, I'm going large scale production!
LOL I'm seeing a big ol' coffee can. Good luck glad it was of use.
Great VR, I like Johns Chanel too (BTW, nice Spyderco)!
I like this fire starter. Neat, using all natural things to start.. hope you and your family had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Besides working, my Thanksgiving was great. Eat a little to much. Have a good day. It was nice to trout in the video...
You're so right; I love to go to the woods with self made gear; I've made some solid fuel with cotton and candle parafin; they are great; In 3 weeks I will be in the Adirondacks, NY, where I will try to catch some pine fat wood; Do you think the snow will be an issue?
Well if you want to do that you should probably let it soak longer so that it gets deep into the wood and then get shavings from it and the strike your flint
NICE VID I HADNT SEEN JOHN VID SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING .I LIVE IN THE MIDWEST AND HAVE PLENTY OF FAT WOOD HERE BUT THIS MAKES IT EVEN EASIER
Great video, Crocket! Can you tell me if the resin retained any of it's stickiness, or was it quite hard? Just wondering if you can store it like more traditional fatwood. Cheers!
Awesome bro! Thanks for sharing this little tip....but thanks for showing your time with Trout as well! :)
Best place to get it for me is Lowe's home improvement. Other then that I look for it in fallen pine trees.
hey, there's trout....what a great kid.......nice vid, as always
i made a batch myself.a tip 2 save time is i bought a box of flat toothpicks and soaked those than put some in my altoid tin with a ferro rod,cotton ball,petro jelly,ect.
yup,iv'e always just used pine roots great source for fat wood..but it can be a bit of work.this is pretty much the same thing.great idea...
Thanks for the video my friend. I went out not to long ago to make some Fatwood but ended up only being able to find a can of 30 year old car wax. Haha It works but it smells horrid. Haha I made a video of the experiment if you would like to check it out. Thanks again.
way to go dad, looked like a great day
the ones going around being critical about these videos will not survive in the long run,they would be their own enemies and outcasts in real survival
Esta latinha e muito rara de encontra aqui no Brasil
Do you think you could put this in some starting material (rubbed out bark, grass, etc.) and get it to take a spark?
Someone was just telling me yesterday how good those are, I'm going to have to try it myself.
well I have to go outside and get wood for the night and I am gonna gather some sap while Im doing that.Just a little insight if you have a headlamp with a red light all the sap glows just found that out last night
Your kids are cute. I have made a couple videos with my son. It is great father-son time. I hope to get my little one involved in the next one.
like the fact you are teaching your next generation. Glade to know he's out in the fresh air and not sitting glued to a mobile device.
one would expect a cotton ball impregnated with pine pitch to be a cool idea
Old man learned new lessons today thank
u young men
Great tip man! I appreciate that! Here in Brazil we use to do that with paraffin wax; I'm not sure we have this kind of resin here; By the way, you are certainly a great father! I can tell that, lol; The best for you and your kid!
Very cool idea. Thanks for sharing this. I will definitely use this. I'm wondering how well it will ignite with a magnesium fire starter since I have one in all my packs.
Great tip. I subbed to Angler after seeing this.
Thanks
I will be using this technique , thanks for sharing!
well I went out last night and gathered a little but noticed only the wet sap seemed to light up but it also did with standard light so im not sure about dried sap.
Ok folks, how seriously can we take our friendly neighborhood "pine huffer"? LMAO
Sweet! great vid, good to get out with ur son! I am going to have to give that a try next time I'm out.
Another way to treat small pieces of wood, to improve their burning ability, is to soak them in alcohol. Some folks travel with a jar of alcohol soaked wood.
But, I like this method better. You don't need to keep wood submerged in alcohol.
Cool vid. Seems like a fun experiment to do with you kid.
Very informative video and good loved the way you did the comparison
Thank you so much for demonstrating this and running the experiments!
i'm trying that out next weekend! great idea!
Any idea what the 'shelf life' of Fatwood is?
Very cool. I may have to try that.
Any chance of lighting the fatwood with flint and steel or is the lighter your only feasable option?
so if you used enough resin and a pressure cooker, do you think the pressure would force it all the way through say, small branch logs?
Hi Crocket,
test a flint on the fat wood, if it starts burning easily ?!?
Great family fun!!
I am going to have to make some and add it to my fire kits thanks new project.