How to install: Wall thermostat , double-pole on 240V baseboard | Cadet Heat

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @greenychic202aol
    @greenychic202aol 2 года назад +21

    *Install was easy **fireplace.homes** good although I personally had some difficulty with the thermostat I had. Issue was mine though, not realizing that electric heaters couldn't use oil thermostats. Tip: If you are using an external thermostat, run the power to the thermostat, not the unit. Once that was squared away it worked great.*

  • @favrerules04
    @favrerules04 Год назад +5

    So simple and to the point, but with all of the important info I needed. This is the video that I have been searching 2 days for. Thank you guys!

  • @devinmccloud
    @devinmccloud 5 лет назад +2

    Just bought a house full of new baseboards and new digital thermostats. Great description, easy install. The instruction that came with the baseboards were very easy to understand and follow.

  • @jrhndrsn
    @jrhndrsn 8 месяцев назад +2

    What size breaker and what size wire? I couldn’t find anything in the instructions. Video looks like 12-2 wire with a 10 amp breaker?

  • @TruthAsk
    @TruthAsk Год назад

    Saved the day! Thanks for the thorough explanation 👏

  • @Mickhealthy
    @Mickhealthy 2 месяца назад

    is there a video for connecting 240v baseboards together? thanks

  • @daviddallo1884
    @daviddallo1884 9 месяцев назад

    I bought a used 8 ft. Long baseboard heater. It no longer has a sticker on it to tell what voltage it is ? 120 or 250. How can I tell what voltage it is? I hooked it up to 120. It heats up but is just doesn't get very warm. It does this rather I go through the thermostat or directly to the 120 outlet.? So should I assume it takes 240 ?

  • @Askeyb2011
    @Askeyb2011 2 года назад +1

    We have a Cadet 240 volt wall heater. Not sure how old but present when we bought our house in 2000. It has a dial on it to set thermostat. This thermostat is very hard to set correctly and we are always turning it up or down trying to keep heat at 68 to 70. It a lot of times ends up too high or too low. I want to install a thermostat on the wall nearby but not sure on doing that. Also there is no real way to install wiring without taking wall apart. Do you have any recommendation on what would work? I can also call an electrician we have used before.

  • @jaymaynard2390
    @jaymaynard2390 3 года назад +1

    I have read your instruction sheet a number of times and I am still confused. The instructions say to cut one of the pairs of factory connected wires. I want to wire a 240circut. Which pair do I cut to connect to the wires from the thermostat? The instruction sheet says to cut the pair with the white wire. Where did you put the white wire? Mine are all black.

  • @crishcosto9917
    @crishcosto9917 Год назад

    Do we need to disconnect thermostat at the back of baseboard heater in series with the line?

  • @brandovasquez8635
    @brandovasquez8635 7 месяцев назад

    Is the JBOX mounted on a stud??
    Or just the drywall??

  • @tif321dc
    @tif321dc 11 месяцев назад

    What thermostat do I use it's for baseboard heat three wires R, W and B ?

  • @JillianShanahan
    @JillianShanahan Год назад

    Are L1 and L2 interchangeable/essentially the same wire? Or does L1 have to go to L1 in the wall and L2 to L2?

  • @robertm5969
    @robertm5969 2 года назад

    My circuit box has 4 wires on one side (white white black black) and 2 on another (white black).
    How would you wire that setup?

  • @soundsandambientvideos380
    @soundsandambientvideos380 3 года назад +1

    you need videos on how to PROGRAM the 362DW!!! very hard to program

  • @davehennessey3423
    @davehennessey3423 5 лет назад +4

    At around 1:40 you begin to instruct the customer to cut the set of wires to to the top set of black factory wires. Double check this please. Your installation booklet contradicts this. It says on page 4 of the instructions for 240 left side to cut the other set and specifically not to cut the factory set going to the top row. Hopefully the instructions are correct because I just wired in 8 rooms of baseboard heaters. Thx

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  5 лет назад +2

      Hey Dave, Good eye. We are sorry for the confusion If you are using 240-volt heaters you can cut either set of wires. That recommendation in the guide is a new addition and is more for the sake of being consistent with a 120-volt installation, where it matters which set of wires you use. This video was made before we made that change in the guide, which is why it contradicts it. We have an update in the works but it isn't quite ready yet.

    • @dallenv
      @dallenv 2 года назад

      Oh yes. I have same question and confused.

  • @lio_convoy714
    @lio_convoy714 4 года назад +1

    Thank you. Made it so easy.

  • @emilielovegood6657
    @emilielovegood6657 Год назад

    Simple, thanks

  • @hisreign4me
    @hisreign4me 2 года назад

    I’m wondering why you didn’t explain how to hook up a thermostat with only two wires coming out of it? The Honeywell RLV3120 specifically. I’d like to know how that one is supposed to be wired.

  • @hedleylint7622
    @hedleylint7622 3 года назад

    I am replacing the wall mounted thermostat. The load wire is at the base board heating unit. Just the 2 wire cables to the box. Need to know what wires to hook the red to and the black to. I did black to black red to white and KICK off the breaker.

  • @cattivo217
    @cattivo217 4 года назад +1

    can you give me a link to the 240v digital thermostat(double pole), i don't like the 1980's looking round knob...it will be hooked up to 2- 8ft cadet baseboard heaters(240v 2000w) wired in parallel...i ran 10/2 on a double pole 30amp breaker 240v...4000 total watts...16.6 total amps

  • @fmradio42
    @fmradio42 3 года назад

    Holy! never seen wire strippers like that. do you have a link for them.

  • @p3dubbs89
    @p3dubbs89 Год назад

    What do you do with the ground wires?

  • @bglflowers
    @bglflowers 2 года назад

    Is there any thermostats with remote Wi-Fi you can work with this baseboard?

  • @CDS528
    @CDS528 3 года назад

    Great job guys.

  • @dillonbott629
    @dillonbott629 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome video. Just what I needed. Thanks a lot

  • @nushizbeatz251
    @nushizbeatz251 4 года назад +1

    Great video. Straight to the point. Helped me install my thermostats . Thanks

  • @youtub3ian728
    @youtub3ian728 3 года назад

    Is the electrical thermostat quieter than the mechanical thermostat ? My mechanical thermostat does a loud "clunk" when it turns heat on or off.

  • @Vans4252
    @Vans4252 2 года назад

    I’m replacing a single pole with a double pole thermostat. I have wires coming from 3 locations in my box. Currently the single pole is connected to all 3 black wires, and all 3 white wires from the 3 sources are connected together but not to the thermostat. I’m so lost on which wires to connect.

    • @bubbathedog7625
      @bubbathedog7625 Год назад

      I have the same wiring, Ben. What did you finally do?

    • @Vans4252
      @Vans4252 Год назад

      @@bubbathedog7625 bought a single pole thermostat and wired it the same way as the original.

  • @joelfaidley7613
    @joelfaidley7613 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent video. So on a double pole I understand the Line and Load but my question is does it matter on the 2 load wires which is connected with which? Also does it matter which of the 2 line wires are connected to the black and white wires coming from the panel?

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  6 лет назад +1

      Hi Joel, because both lines are hot with the 240 volt, it does not matter which load wires connect with which. And same with the line wires. They can connect to either the white or black wires coming from the panel. If you were dealing with 120V, it would matter. We are happy to hear that the video helped out. Let us know if you have any further questions.

    • @favrerules04
      @favrerules04 Год назад

      @@Cadetheat Thank you for this! I have been searching for HOURS trying to figure this out!

  • @micmic9410
    @micmic9410 8 лет назад

    I have 240V radiant ceiling heat on a single pole Thermostat. Okay to use a double pole thermostat (OFF switch) and separate the wiring for this?

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  8 лет назад

      Hey RMj,
      Unless you have four wires in the thermostat junction box, you shouldn't be using a double pole thermostat.

  • @atheniasonly1533
    @atheniasonly1533 4 года назад

    If I already have an old baseboard heater connected to the breaker, do I connect the thermostat to the breaker and then back to the baseboard?

  • @rolandzamora4624
    @rolandzamora4624 8 лет назад +1

    the 2 black wires in the thermostat does to the wires coming from the service panel,, is this correct? And the 2 red wires in the thermostat goes to the wires going to the heater itself, is this correct?

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  8 лет назад

      +Roland Zamora If you're using the exact thermostat we're showing in this video, the top black and bottom red wires go to the heater. The other two get connected to the wires coming from the service panel. If it's not this specific thermostat, make sure the "Load" wires go to the heater and "L1" and "L2" go to the wires coming from the panel. If you want, you can live chat or e-mail our tech support guys and they can walk you through your specific situation. cadetheat.com/support/customer-service

    • @RoyAndrews82
      @RoyAndrews82 8 лет назад

      +Cadet Heat I don't have 240v coming from the wall.. Can I hook up 120vac to the 240vac ones..? I saw in the video that you too weren't using 240vac wiring. Because if it was, it would be Red, Black, White, and a ground, which is 12-3 Romex, not 14-2, which is what it looks like the wiring coming out of the wall is.

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  8 лет назад

      +Mark II You need to make sure that your thermostat supports the voltage you are using for your heater. I can't really be any more specific about that without knowing what thermostat and heater you are using. Thomas from our tech support team said he'd be happy to talk with you about your particular situation if you want to send him an e-mail at tjones@cadetheat.com.
      As far as the wiring is concerned, it is 240-volt wiring in the video. Cadet heaters only use 2 conductors and a ground (Black White and bare Copper ground wire) for both 120 and 240 volt applications. Where you would see the 3 conductor application is your electric range and or electric dryer. The reason why these need 3 conductors ( Red, Black and White) is because they need 120 volts for their control circuits like the clock and displays. Cadet heaters do not need the neutral because they do not have the control circuits like the range and dryer need to operate.

    • @RoyAndrews82
      @RoyAndrews82 8 лет назад

      +Cadet Heat Ahh.. I see. So both of the wires are hot then. Which means you really were using 240vac. Ok, cool. There's no need. It seems there's 120vac ones as well at lowes, I'll just get those. Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

  • @AdmiralBob
    @AdmiralBob 4 года назад +2

    240v line voltage is just nuts for a thermostat. needlessly expensive in the wire in many cases not to mention the safety that a rational low voltage with relay would allow.

  • @fettmaneiii4439
    @fettmaneiii4439 5 лет назад +31

    “Connect 1 black wire to this, connect 1 black wire to that.” This tells us nothing! Wtf

    • @dude4173
      @dude4173 4 года назад +2

      Connect one black wire to your a hole and the other to your ear, then turn breaker on

    • @Danyco.
      @Danyco. Год назад

      @@BottomNotchyeah real helpful response to a 6yr old post with an absolutely pointless comment. Go fuck yourself

    • @ThePLAYERWARNING
      @ThePLAYERWARNING Год назад +2

      Facts i just found out its 240 by the burn mark on my wall

  • @rolandzamora4624
    @rolandzamora4624 8 лет назад +4

    at 1:46 in the baseboard itself, there are two black connections with nuts in them and choose the one with a connection coming from the top. then cut it. Why can't Cadet just leave those wires open)no nuts so that it is obvious that that is where the connection from the thermostat will go?

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  8 лет назад +2

      +Roland Zamora Good question. We make our baseboards so they can be wired on the left or right hand side of the heater. If we left one connection on the left side open, you'd only be able to wire it on the left side right out of the box. When we made this video, we wanted to show the wiring on the left side, because there are two connections. On the right, there is only one. I hope that makes sense!

    • @jlcsr916
      @jlcsr916 8 лет назад

      Roland Zamora

    • @timwest1922
      @timwest1922 6 лет назад

      Multiple baseboard s

  • @pureblood365
    @pureblood365 4 года назад

    Do you have to have a double pole thermostat for a 240 cadet.?

    • @rafaelramos441
      @rafaelramos441 2 года назад

      Best practice to do so, otherwise the unswitched leg remains hot even when the thermostat isn't calling for heat.

  • @greenmarine5
    @greenmarine5 5 лет назад +2

    In a Perfect world..........

  • @SONICSTAR07
    @SONICSTAR07 4 года назад

    Hi how can one tell which wire in the J box coming from the heater load and which from the breaker line?

    • @robertm5969
      @robertm5969 2 года назад

      Probably use a DMM. Flip breaker off and disconnect all wires, seperate them so they don't short. Put your positive DMM lead to one of the white wires and negative to ground. The one from the breaker line should have 120-240V and the one from the heater should have 0V.

  • @donthomson6260
    @donthomson6260 4 года назад

    How do you determine which wire is from the breaker and which wire is from the heater?

    • @stinkdyr301
      @stinkdyr301 3 года назад

      Use a glow light electrical tester like either of these shown: ruclips.net/video/Moad9c1wTwk/видео.html

  • @BobP68
    @BobP68 6 лет назад

    Can I run 3 of your 4F1000 240 volt htrs off a double poll 20 amp brker? According to your web site, that would only be 12.6 amps total. Can 1 stat control all three?

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  6 лет назад

      Hey Bob, That should work just fine as long as you make sure to wire the heaters in parallel, not series. Instructions for this can be found in the baseboard Owner's Guide. If you're looking for a good thermostat for this installation, our tech support team recommends the TH114. Please let us know if you have any other questions.

    • @BobP68
      @BobP68 6 лет назад

      Does Menards typically carry this model, or would I need to order it direct from you??

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  6 лет назад

      Hey Bob, It looks like Menards stocks the Aube version of that thermostat. Really, you can use any line voltage thermostat that says it works with baseboard heaters. Just make sure it's rated for more than 12.6 amps.

  • @Matt-Ruff
    @Matt-Ruff 6 лет назад +1

    Could you wire it the same way behind the stat in the box except with two loads? So 3 12/2 wires in the box behind the stat?

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  6 лет назад

      Hi Matt, yes, you can do this as long as the thermostat and breaker are
      not overloaded. We do not recommend adding any more than two loads though
      because of the amount of wiring that would need to fit inside the junction box.

  • @rickhorvath
    @rickhorvath 8 лет назад

    So the breaker that turns off the actual baseboard is also the same breaker that turns off the power at the thermostat???

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  8 лет назад +1

      Yes, if the heater is installed correctly. If you're using a wall thermostat, wires run from the breaker to the thermostat and then the thermostat is connected to the baseboard/heater. Both should be on the same breaker. In the past we did sell a 2-circuit thermostat, that would be the one exception.

    • @stinkdyr301
      @stinkdyr301 3 года назад

      correctomundo!

  • @PaFisherman
    @PaFisherman 9 месяцев назад

    I'm a little confused with the wire cutting in the header as the other video you have DOES NOT CUT THESE WIRES:
    ruclips.net/video/wcxoJWgVrsQ/видео.html
    Which video is correct? My model is a 4F1000.

  • @4amodeus
    @4amodeus 8 лет назад +2

    Doesn't 240 V require two circuits and 3 wires, 110 v from each leg?Your video shows only 12-2 wire being used.

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  8 лет назад +2

      +Karl Lucas 240V power comes from one double-breaker. Our heaters only need two hot wires but other appliances like electric ranges and dryers use 3 wires.

    • @paulstefi5714
      @paulstefi5714 3 года назад

      Does not need a neutral

  • @JNacoustic
    @JNacoustic 7 лет назад

    on the 240v 12/3 from the breaker panel do I just ignore the neutral??

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  7 лет назад

      Hello!
      Our heaters only require 12/2 or 10/2 wire so you will need to cap off the white neutral wire. Let us know if you have any more questions!

    • @TheScientistHayFarmer
      @TheScientistHayFarmer 6 лет назад +3

      They were answering the question for a three conductor wire. You would not use the neutral.

  • @willyoung5755
    @willyoung5755 6 лет назад

    Can you wire more than 1 120v heater to one thermostat?

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  6 лет назад

      You can as long as you don't have more than 1,920 total watts on a circuit. We generally recommend that folks use a 240-volt circuit when wiring multiple heaters together. Here's a blog post that covers how that works: cadetheat.com/blog/multiple-heaters-just-one-thermostat/

  • @mist3614
    @mist3614 7 лет назад

    can you hook up more than one heater to the thermostat ?

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  7 лет назад +1

      Yes you can just make sure they're wired in parallel and it will support the total wattage of the heaters. If you have more questions, I can get you connected with our tech support team.

  • @jeramiahfuchs
    @jeramiahfuchs 8 лет назад

    what do you do if your baseboard heater is still putting off heat when its off

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  8 лет назад

      +Jeramiah Fuchs It's difficult to say without more information. It could possibly be a short or a bad thermostat. Is it putting off a lot of heat or just a small amount? How long does it give off the heat?

  • @nickypastorino8255
    @nickypastorino8255 8 лет назад +1

    the first thermostat was only acting as an on odd switcht hen an electrician installed a 120/240 usable thermo---it doesnt have any numbers on it ---just cooler and warmer with arrows ---the thrermo is on the wall ----the first click it goes on then shuts and never goeson if i put ther thermo in the confort zone level ---it constantly clicks at the end of the radiator ---the end that would be attacheded to the wall unit---but its not turning it oon and off just clicking -----its driving me crazy nevr had this before---im having a feeling this thermo is not right either ----i did find one that says electric onlt non programmable ---whaddda thinkig ---it would be very appreciated

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  8 лет назад

      Nicky,
      I think we'll need more information to help you. If you can, please get in touch with our tech support team cadetheat.com/support/customer-service

  • @Seddeek-u8c
    @Seddeek-u8c 2 года назад

    You mean L1 and L 2 together

  • @90s_ill
    @90s_ill 4 года назад

    I have red red black black to red black ground???? I'm bout to punch the outlet right thru the wall

  • @Cirinzo
    @Cirinzo 7 лет назад +2

    Is there an option to make it wireless thermostat?

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  7 лет назад

      Ciri, Unfortunately, we do not have a wireless thermostat option at the moment.

    • @jimmyjamesl2318
      @jimmyjamesl2318 4 года назад

      yes you can ....look at mysa thermostat

  • @stevepseudonym445
    @stevepseudonym445 4 года назад +1

    Useful tip of the day: Just because Home Depot will sell it to you doesn't mean you should do it yourself. If you need to ask about wiring 101 maybe you're not ready to do your own electrical work.

  • @paulstefi5714
    @paulstefi5714 3 года назад

    He never really goes into wiring the wall thermostat. If the thermostat controls power to both legs does that mean the fan and element shut of together. Should there be a delay.

    • @Handyman_CDL
      @Handyman_CDL Год назад

      This is pretty specifically for double pole electric baseboard heaters. No fan involved; this type of thermostat would not suit the type of system you’re working with.

  • @kevincarroll3515
    @kevincarroll3515 4 года назад

    How do you hook up a double pole thermostat to a single pole heater

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  4 года назад

      Hi Kevin. To best help you, we would suggest speaking directly with our tech support team. They can be reached by following this link: cadetheat.com/customer-service

  • @michaelwingreen9141
    @michaelwingreen9141 2 года назад

    You don't show the wires connecting ????

  • @JohnSmith-mi8zy
    @JohnSmith-mi8zy 3 года назад

    The white and black conductors in the wall represent 120 volts. They should be red and black to signify 240 volts. Definitely a code violation.

    • @joshuaewer
      @joshuaewer 2 года назад

      NEC color codes allow the white to be hot as long as it's marked with marker or tape (any color but gray or green). Regardless, never trust a wire color; assume everything is hot.

    • @JohnSmith-mi8zy
      @JohnSmith-mi8zy 2 года назад

      @@joshuaewer This is a violation in the CEC and I thought the NEC required a permanent colour change like heat shrink.

  • @sprycats
    @sprycats 3 года назад +2

    The instructions weren't as clear as your video. Thank you.

  • @bapparrott6098
    @bapparrott6098 5 лет назад

    You'are also using the wrong wire gauge.....

  • @kwekuembil8641
    @kwekuembil8641 6 лет назад

    Why isn't it possible to install a double-pole thermostat to replace a single pole thermostat?

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  6 лет назад

      There are some situations where it is possible to replace a single-pole thermostat with a double-pole one and others where it is not possible. We'd need to get more information on your particular installation to know what your options are. Can you please reach out to our tech support team directly? They'll be best able to assist. cadetheat.com/customer-service

    • @kwekuembil8641
      @kwekuembil8641 6 лет назад

      Thank you so much, @@Cadetheat. We decided to go with the single pole instead.

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  6 лет назад

      We're glad we were able to help!

  • @toddmaki2289
    @toddmaki2289 7 лет назад

    So L does not stand for LOAD? I guess it means Line

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  7 лет назад

      With the thermostats we sell L stands for Line.

    • @stinkdyr301
      @stinkdyr301 3 года назад

      Usually stands for LINE. Best thing to do is test both sets of wires that enter the wall box to see which are hot. Connect those to LINE wires of the thermostat. On King thermostats, the powered LINE (hot) wires in the wall box connect to the two red wires on the back of the thermostat. So, read the intrux carefully that come with your thermo.

  • @MulticulturalRadio
    @MulticulturalRadio 2 года назад

    Well that's easy - when it's ALREADY 99% done!

  • @mgdobreski51
    @mgdobreski51 7 лет назад +2

    You are really assuming that the person watching this video understands more than they probably do. What's a sub base, j-box, load wire, line wire, etc.

    • @Cadetheat
      @Cadetheat  7 лет назад

      +MG Dobreski thanks for the feedback. These videos could use an update, we'll take that into consideration. In the meantime, if you'd like to reach out to us directly tomorrow we can try to help walk you through it over the phone or via email. I'd love to hear what else you'd like to see in future videos.

  • @andyknowles7689
    @andyknowles7689 4 года назад

    Black to black red to white? What the WTF

  • @kdzmcwilliams
    @kdzmcwilliams 3 года назад +1

    I'm giving this a thumbs down as you can't see in the video which of the two pairs of wires to cut as the base of those wires are out of view. The narrators verbal explanation does not help. Went to written manual which clearly illustrates which wires to cut.

    • @karmendimas5274
      @karmendimas5274 3 года назад +1

      agreed!! sloppy part of the video, they need to put a bit more effort into it!

  • @BambooScar
    @BambooScar 5 месяцев назад

    You literally don’t show the wiring 😂

  • @robertheintz8017
    @robertheintz8017 2 года назад

    That was a piss poor demonstration.

  • @KennethClark-d2g
    @KennethClark-d2g 11 месяцев назад

    Useless