Watching this with my 08 xc90 v8 sitting outside my window reminds me of how much I love that thing. Truly still feels like a competitive suv today. She’s been totaled twice but rebuilt her because I refuse to let her go. At 300k miles and has many more to go.
I really enjoy how detailed and thorough your videos are. A great comparison! You’ve certainly got me convinced to upgrade from my T5 to a V8 but you’ve set the bar so high with your executive model.
I LOVE your enthusiasm for these old bricks! The XC90 V8 will always be on my list of Volvos I want to own. Currently have a P80 V70 XC and P2 XC70 (have also owned a P3 XC70 T6, C30 T5 V2.0 and S40 2.4i manual transmission at one point and loved them all for different reasons). There’s just something…. special about the P2 Volvos. I’m one to always try and have a 3 car garage (in case one of them needs some extra time being worked on in the garage 😂) and keep going between an XC90 V8 and a P2 R. It’ll be a hard choice when the time comes. Thank you again Bern for all you do and keeping another P2 alive!
I have a fully loaded 2017 XC90 T6 R-Design. Its been great to drive for the past 7 years and plan on keeping it another few years (still under 70,000 miles). I enjoy your throwback XC90 videos and seeing how the XC90's have evolved over the years.
I was hoovering my 2009 model last night and also realized you can slide 2nd row of seats!! Its amazing feature that makes more space for 3rd row kids sitting there!!! Loving it
Hi Bern, You are the Volvo Equivalent of "Car Talk." Your voice is late night radio quality, your delivery is spontaneous and smooth. I am a FAN. Look for questions from me about when you 'lifted' Thor. Best to you.
Drove both. I’ve had eyes for an XC90 for 20 years. When P2 got long in the tooth, I knew it stood the test of time in terms of build quality. I got a SPA Platform XC90 CPO last month and I agree with you on several points-it’s a cruiser, it’s safe feeling, it’s a nod to how much luxurious an SUV can be without making it too detached from its roots. We will see how my 2023 XC90 is at 50,000 miles.
I love the XC90 and I also have a 1st gen. A 2008 which still feels like it’s something special when I drive it. That’s for a very nice review and video. *****
@kevinftw16 I have an S40 T5 also, and it's WAY worse than the 2.4i s40 I just sold lmfao & I thought 2.4 was bad I thought 0.1 wouldn't make too much of a difference, but it really does 😭 Now I'm stuck with a 2.9 T6 and a 2.5 T5 lool 😬
@@iz2904 Haha. Mine was a 2.4 2006 S60 T5 I regret selling it.. gas mileage was probably my fault anyways... It was hard to resist doing 0-100 every chance I could get 🤣😂
Your video has me all the more thankful for Falkor, my P2 2012 Volvo XC90 3.2 FWD Premier Plus in Ice White! I recently had mine in the Volvo shop for a few days for repairs and I was given a loaner 2024 S60 B5 Black Edition. All of its tech with the large touch screen, outside cameras, heated seats, mild hybrid configuration, and automatic side mirrors really impressed me, but by the end I was ready to return to the familiarity of my own XC90. If I were to adopt all the technological complexity and flair of the S60 into a 2024 XC90, I'd be worried about which electrical component would be the first to fail. It's one thing to address a mechanical or electrical sensor issue on my older 2012 model, but the computerization of the newer vehicles really concern me. The initial drive with the S60's new car smell was definitely the stuff of dreams and I was truly smitten for a couple days! However, what happens when that novelty wears off over time and one electrical fault can potentially cascade into another? Even though I work in IT support, I find myself wanting to maintain balance with how much technology is in my vehicle. This is what solidifies my preference for older vehicles that consider power windows, keyless remotes, parking sensors, and built-in bluetooth a luxury tech feature. At the end of the day, I just want something that can connect my phone for Spotify and reliably take me from point A to B with some comfortable, yet simple amenities. I don't want to feel like I'm driving a robot that's willing to give me the world on a silver touch-sensitive platter. Yes, the tech in my P2 2012 feels worlds away from the SPA platform and even antiquated, but such character is what endears me to it. Since I was told years ago by a dealer shop that installing a third-party tablet on my front console would render the stock rear DVD players useless, I continue to use the standard layout to this day. Heck, I got excited the other day to find a portable speaker with a 30-pin iPod connector dock that allowed me to use my newly refreshed iPod Classic and iPod Mini devices! Perhaps I am turning into an out-of-touch soul at the age of 43 compared to the younger generations. LOL
Great comparison! The first gen still looks amazing after all these years, definitely a classy and looker Volvo. The new one looks just amazing next to the V8 one. That’s what you call a proper evolution of the first gen design.
I think it's important to look at these of cars from an objective standpoint and not let nostalgia get in the w-, nah fuck it, old one BECAUSE V8 MOTOR
Surprisingly, Volvo lost that "bank vault" door sometime in the '10s. My 2006 S60 still sounded like a bank vault, but my 2017 V60 Cross Country doesn't. Ironically, I have an open recall for the door latches on the V60 because they might disengage partially if a large enough shock hits it (like accidentally jumping a crowned intersection at 50mph because you're lost in a city you don't know). I did want an XC90 V8 but sadly there weren't any in my area. Yours looks stellar and I'm kinda jealous 😂 I had a former friend get annoyed with me because once he saw my V60 covered in mud when I almost got stuck on my friend's farm. He berated me because "I don't have a rally car" and I said, "ok..." I like how the SPA models were equal parts reinvention and evolution. I've heard the sport seats are too firm and when I got my V60, I had to get used to the sport seats as well, but the standard comfort seats regardless of chassis are incredible. Hilariously I think my V60 has Sensus 2(?) but it does everything I need it to. I don't have a real reason to need a screen like the SPA models and I'd rather not be distracted by it. One thing I love about the P2 and P3 cars is you can still get a Bilstein suspension kit for them. I started off mildly with the S60, getting the B4 OE kit and then stepping up to the B6 kit, but in the V60 I went with the standard model's B12 kit. I lost maybe a half inch of ground cleareance, but I gained a MUCH more neutral handling characteristic. On the factory suspension, the rear end would come out suddenly, but with the B12 kit, it's more neutral. No matter what I had on the S60, it was always nose-heavy, so I got used to it. One thing that surprised both me and a buddy: The P3 V60 Cross Country weighs 4000lbs. He'd driven it a couple times and said, "It feels like a truck, but handles well. No wonder it needs the turbo." We laughed about it because the S60's problem was its turning radius was within 3 feet of a Lamborghini Diablo or Chevrolet Tahoe.
I have to agree with you with that "bank vault" door. My 2011 1st gen Volvo V60 have a much better door thunk sound over a 2016 2nd gen Volvo XC90. Even an owner of that XC90 agrees.
6:38 the GX470 was pretty much the biggest of the midsized three row luxury SUVs in the 2000's. I think the only one bigger than that in this segment back then was the Lincoln Aviator and Mercury Mountaineer (both based on the Ford Explorer).
Love your Volvo videos Bern. You really need to find yourself a P2 D5 XC90 to drive, they're absolutely sweet with all their low end diesel torque, and excellent economy. Unsure you'll find one in North America, but if you're ever in Aus, you're welcome to drive my 2010 XC90 D5 Executive.
Have you thought about putting the OBX v8 exhaust on it? I just got an 07 xc90 v8 i love it so far man maybe we can connect one day, cheers from Toronto
Cheers! Yeah one day I plan on replacing the exhaust with something a little louder, I think LOL. Next time I'm in Toronto I'll remember to comment again haha
The older XC90 V8 have more consistent power from its pure V8 engine where the newer T8 is only a "T8" when you have enough battery for its electric motor. Otherwise the T8 will eventually become a FWD T6. When you do fancy doing full EV mind you it'll be a very short commute and it'll be a... P2 (maybe P3) performance. P, from electrified Polestar cars that's why I didn't say T2 or T3. Basically I do understand why the older XC90 is preferable. As for a family car I'll take the new T8. As for a driver's 5 door wagon... I'll go for a V60, V70 or a V90 (proper V90 NOT V90 CC). Yes I do prefer sitting that low. I do enjoy that V8 sounds though and the older XC90 is still more than enough as a family car.
21:36 Hi. Great review. I am new to your channel and have a 2008 XC90. Debating whether I should upgrade (tech, body, and parts) or bite the bullet to purchase a newer one. Using my cell phone’s display with the AUX port for sound does okay but prefer something modern. You mention a Legend Head-unit. Can you provide some details please? Thanks, -Jake…
Thank you! Glad you found me! I would upgrade your current one, it would feel sooo different. I just refreshed mine with new parts and it's a whole new experience now!
You have the most complete version of the XC90 V8 I have ever seen. Sound system, sunroof, perforated seats with massage, third-row climate control, second-row multimedia system, and the refrigerator, which I see for the first time in this car. So I was left with questions, does it have the factory 6-CD changer and Nivomat self leveling shocks?
Late to the comment here! I bet you do have the novimat. I just had to change out my rear shocks 3 months ago and they were novimat. And I only have a P2 3.2 awd. I ended up replacing them with regular shocks (volvo wanted well over $2,000 to replace the novimats) So i imagine you would definitely have novimats being fully loaded if they havent been replaced already.
As much as I like how luxurious and powerful the newest XC90’s are, I prefer the 2004-2014 ones because they had so many different engines and I really miss the in-line 6. The new motors don’t have as much personality and don’t feel fitting for an almost 5k pounds suv despite having more than enough power for the job. I’ll admit, the turbo in-line 4 engines are pretty torquey and feel great when you mat the throttle.
I love this review. Very unique! I only drive Volvos and have owned many including a 2009 XC90 V8 and a 2009 S80 V8 (both purchased new on the same day) and we currently have a 2023 XC90 T8. The XC90 V8 and the S80 V8 both were platinums with executive package and the S80 had tech package w/ adaptive cruise control. They were phenomenal vehicles. Our current lineup is a 2023 XC90 T8 AWD Ultimate w/ Air & B&W, a 2013 C70 Platinum w/ Inscription pkg and a 2008 C30 2.0 custom order with every option but leather. My wife loves the 2023 T8 XC90 but I miss the comfort and the torque of our old 2009 XC90 V8. We had a 2018 XC90 T6 R-Design loaded to the max w/ p* and that was actually fun to drive. However, the 2023XC90 w/ google and the reengineered T6 powertrain was absolutely dull and boring. So we went with the T8. Its okay but I miss the R-Design spec. and believe the Volvo is moving toward a very boring future. I absolutely wouldn't replace the head unit because you will loose the Dynaudio customizations. Who needs CarPlay when you have the most customizable audio system ever factory fitted to a vehicle with integrated Dolby Digital surround w/ front AND rear equalizers? Its sad that the $3,200 B&W option in a post 2022 Volvo has removed any type of equalizer and balance/fader option. P.S. Please remove the Subaru badges and get a Volvo high mileage badge. The Subaru badges are for Volvo wannabees. You got the real deal here.
Your XC90 is WAY better than the new one. For the price of that new XC90, I’m taking a fully loaded BMW X5 40i with the M Sport Pkg instead. MUCH better car. Genesis GV80 Prestige (with the 6cyl motor) is a compelling option too for a few grand cheaper than the XC90 but the X5 is my cup of tea (I’m a BMW/Porsche guy tbf). I can’t imagine spending close to $90k on a XC90 when an Acura MDX Advance is $20k cheaper and the superior car. Only thing the MDX lacks is the acceleration of the XC90. I like the MDX Type-S too but I don’t appreciate low-profile tires on a family SUV as they go flat easily on bad roads and the standard MDX is proven to be really reliable from a mechanical standpoint. I can’t imagine wanting a new XC90 personally when so many other, BETTER, options exist. One thing I def appreciate however is your content!
Oh well, not be too despaired. You can get a boat and fit it with a Yamaha F350 or F425 XTO. Be grateful that Yamaha have "recycled" Volvo car's engine design. Oh and I DON'T mean Volvo Penta which is part of Volvo's (Truck) group.
We loved our P2 5cyl Volvos they were great vehicles. Last year I ran out and bought a 2022 and 2019 XC90 T6 after to my dismay I noticed on Volvo's website that they were all hybrids now which I do not want because I believe they will have serious reliability issues. I had R-Design steering wheels installed because my wife and I think the standard steering wheel looks funky and not very attractive and we think the split inlay rim steering wheels are just uncomfortable to grip. Volvo stupidly deleted exhaust tips for 2022 so I had to have those reinstalled. Before I even drove my 2022 and 2019 XC90 I had a total SW update performed and Polestar upgrade for more downshifting because for years the 8 speed transmission programming was so dumbed down and mindless it felt like you were being hurled to stops like a clown car in my opinion. I was always very surprised auto reviewers never seemed to notice and criticize this in SPA reviews. SPA Volvos had brake issues and just finally revised pads to address premature wear and reoccurring pulsation that upset many customers that swore to never buy Volvo again in my opinion. However Volvo was years too late and should have had a service bulletin requiring dealers to lube pad backing to prevent brake noise. The lack of transmission programming when approaching stops made brake problems worse in my opinion. I feel like I went to war with Volvo for years on my Volvo related twitter account mynewvolvoexp making fun of brakes and transmission programming and would like to think I had some small part in putting pressure on Volvo to finally update transmission SW and brake pads. Even after getting the revised pads there was still grunting, groaning and barking when letting off the brake pedal from a stop and Volvo and dealers seemed totally clueless about this issue. I had to figure it out on my own and I believe it was because Volvo wasn't specifying SPA pad backing to be greased with brake lube which resolved this issue. I cannot understand why Volvo didn't figure this out and address this in testing. Volvo makes solid vehicles but does some stupid things in my opinion. Sadly I believe Volvo has been driving away and alienating customers handing business to competitors that offer traditional non hybrid options while more focused on trendy culture and tech crap such as EV's and hybrids many people do not want. Most people that buy these hybrids don't even know what they are buying until they have reliability issues in my opinion. I believe Volvo has been trying so hard to please the wrong people that would never even buy a Volvo anyway while alienating long time loyal customers like myself and even potential new customers in my opinion. I have been trying to get through to Volvo executives on my website mynewvolvoexperience and through my twitter account. I used to see newer Volvos all over the road in California and now I hardly see any while I'm seeing competitor vehicles with non hybrid options such as the MDX now all over the road. I am seriously concerned about Volvo's future because I feel they have been driving away business.
I'm buying my first volvo xc90 v8, I live in Toronto Canada 🇨🇦 Picking it up from Montreal Quebec Canada in two weeks time, I'm excited 😊. I'm driving a 1983 BMW 533i, I got two e28's, I won't drive it this winter
Hi. I loved your comparison review of the XC90 V8 versus the T8. I have a 2009 XC90 V8 for the past 9 years and I love it so much that I refuse to change my car because there really is no replacement for it. I paid £12,400 for it in 2015 and was told recently by a car dealer that I could still get 10k for it! Would you agree with this? Anyway, thanks for the great review!!
I have 2009 R design D5 - amazing - even our mechanic said - “You bought the last solid Volvo”’ and I believe before 2010 models are the best! The china ones I dont trust much but would be happy to Be wrong 😅
I think you're incorrect about the turbocharged and supercharged comment. I believe they went to only turbo for the MY2023 T8 since the low end torque of the hybrid system means the supercharger is just an unnecessary complication to the engine.
P2 still has the "utilitarian" look we loved as a family. The new one is too expensive, too delicate. We bought Volvos when they were nicer Subarus not ersatz BMWs.
@@2steaksandwiches665 that’s definitely true! Mine sounds like it likes to be driven whether it be spirited or laid back it seems to keep going. I’d be worried that the new one might break and be like a Swedish BMW.
@@charlesrodriguez7984 time will tell. I can’t tell you how many p2 xc90s I still see on the road, even if they are beaten to hell and 15 plus years old . They just keep going. How many first generation X5s do you see? I haven’t seen one in a few years.
I much prefer the prev generations. I hv a 2012 xc70 w 3.2 - its been flawless - no issues whatsoever w over 150k on clock and plenty of power w 6cyl- more reliable without the turbo. I had 08 v50 - 5cyl nonturbo - also ran flawless - only issue later was a/c leak. Had 2013 s80 w turbo also but got rid of it bc transmissin was sketchy and wanted more storage. Id never get the newer xc90 bc its a 4cyl - so effing lame. W bullshit turbos and/or superchargers makes them less reliable. All to just improve a few mpgs. Only good thing about new gen is the seats are as good if not better than older seats. U cant beat vovlo seats - designed by orthopedists from what I've heard.
For those who miss Volvo (Yamaha built) V8s, you might as well get a boat that can have Yamaha F350 or F425 XTO. It's good that Yamaha have "recycled" Volvo car's engine design. And yes I've mentioned Volvo cars NOT Volvo Penta (Marine division of Volvo group or Volvo Trucks/Buses). Personally I don't really like the new XC90's steering. It's WAY TOO light!! Also can't feel where the car is heading, prone to accidentally get into a wrong lane especially on motorways. I don't like the idea of feeling disconnected while driving. My older Volvo steering is also light but at least I can feel where the car is heading.
@@BernonCars That's doing 100 KPH. About 8-8.5 L per 100 KLM, which I believe is roughly 28 MPG. She drinks when towing though, which I was doing regularly and with up to 3000 KG on the back.... But too many oil leaks developing, so I use another tow car now.
That’s a good question! I may make a video about that 😂 primarily I would check for rust, they don’t usually rust but I see it sometimes! I would also peek underneath to see any leaks. I’d also look at the belt/pulley’s as the engine is running and listen for weird noises. Make sure the transmission shifts properly in all gears, and its hard to really test the AWD, but accelerating from a stop will kinda help figure it out.
Can you make a short video just driving the V8 without talking so that we can hear that beautiful sound. I am sold. I found a 2010 V8 in Pearl White going for $4500.
@@BernonCars here is the description of the car. I am hoping i find it when i am ready to buy and it has brown/orange kinda interior. Beautiful pearl white in colour volvo xc90 v8. Year model : 2008. Gearbox : automatic. Engine: 4.4l naturally aspirated. ●Folding mirrors. ●Park lights. ●Xenon lights. ●built in car fridge. ●Aux/CD player. ●Electric windows. ●Electric seats. ● Daytime running lights. ●Car comes with 2 sets of mats. Rubber/original persian mats from factory. ● Alarm system. ● Original alloy wheels. ● Headlight spray washers. ● Cruise control. ● Central locking. ●Park lights. ●Trip tronic gearbox. ● Power steering. ●Milage : 216k on the clock. ● Service history with log books. Please do not miss out on this amazing deal , get the chance to own one of the old and super reliable V8's left .
The 2023 no longer uses the supercharger. Volvo has been trying to make these more reliable while they faze them out to become all electric. It’s very sad. I personally will only buy 2015 and older Volvos now.
The tiny #4_Cylinder engines are the biggest reason I'll #NEVER buy a P4 Volvo. The 4 cylinder in a Heavy Mid or Large SUV model is just totally ridiculous
@@BernonCarsScotty Kilmer said small turbo engines are overstressed pulling weight like that and wear out faster than a large naturally aspirated engine or a larger engine in general. Well’s see how these hold up
DO NOT CHANGE THE HEAD UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!! Please I beg you. BEG you. The touch screen is horrendous. Factory head unit is unbeatable. You will regret is. Please rethink!!
Omg, I hate those Beamer Mini Cooper wannabe four banger engines. BLEH! Friggin overrated with electric motor assist and was a subject of a massive recall because it didn’t have a dipstick LOL! And friggin Volvo kept badging them with T5, T6, and T8?! Why not just say T4? or something?
Something you probably didnt know whoch is pretty cool, if youve got kids, the p2 xc90 has a feature wiere you can pop out the centre console, and slide the centre child seat forwards, and have your child almost in between the driver and passenger seats!
@markbray2988 dad's got an executive but it's missing the fridge. Or I guess I have one now, as he's given it to me! Had no idea the fridge was bolted down! Here's something you migjt find interesting tho, volvo made a twin turbo test mule xc90 v8, and I'm now the owner of said car! It makes 700 wheel horsepower, and had a 7 speed! I have some videos up on it I believe, but I should be uploading more in the future :)
Hallo ! I buy a 2002 T6 with 46.0000 km on it, a very nice old demo car with full of extra, but not a third row who suit oss perfectly then we only are two. Very straight in the body, nearly any marks in the body, The biggest problems is the eloctronic, windoms .centrallock. roof hatch-dvd player. It is a very nice car to drive! So i drove it down in the left ditch !!! Now i resett it with Monroe schock absorbers and ONLY MOOG spare parts in front and rear of the car !!! If you want too know more let me know ??? I will do more work with exhaust and inlett and a littlé bigger tires, i hoppe !!! 275 is the nicest body !!! EXAACTLY !!! 😎🤠😸😻😹😼😾😿👍👍👍
They're both beautiful the front end on the older model never gets old 😍
I totally agree!!
Watching this with my 08 xc90 v8 sitting outside my window reminds me of how much I love that thing. Truly still feels like a competitive suv today. She’s been totaled twice but rebuilt her because I refuse to let her go. At 300k miles and has many more to go.
Yeah man! Keep on rolling!!
I really enjoy how detailed and thorough your videos are. A great comparison!
You’ve certainly got me convinced to upgrade from my T5 to a V8 but you’ve set the bar so high with your executive model.
I appreciate that!!
Haha nice! Yeah I wanted an Exec so bad, thrilled I found one!
I LOVE your enthusiasm for these old bricks! The XC90 V8 will always be on my list of Volvos I want to own. Currently have a P80 V70 XC and P2 XC70 (have also owned a P3 XC70 T6, C30 T5 V2.0 and S40 2.4i manual transmission at one point and loved them all for different reasons). There’s just something…. special about the P2 Volvos. I’m one to always try and have a 3 car garage (in case one of them needs some extra time being worked on in the garage 😂) and keep going between an XC90 V8 and a P2 R. It’ll be a hard choice when the time comes. Thank you again Bern for all you do and keeping another P2 alive!
Thank you!!! I’m really so pleased to have found one! Nice, a good little fleet! I myself want to get more P2’s eventually LOL
Don't have to miss Volvo's V8s so much now. You can buy a boat fitted with a Yamaha F350 or F425 XTO.
Man that intro monologue👌
I have a fully loaded 2017 XC90 T6 R-Design. Its been great to drive for the past 7 years and plan on keeping it another few years (still under 70,000 miles). I enjoy your throwback XC90 videos and seeing how the XC90's have evolved over the years.
Nice that's excellent! I appreciate that! Plenty more to come 😁
I was hoovering my 2009 model last night and also realized you can slide 2nd row of seats!! Its amazing feature that makes more space for 3rd row kids sitting there!!! Loving it
Haha that's excellent!!
I like to see Bern doing his thang!!! I see you playboy with the fridge!!! I thought that was hype!!!
Yes sir!!! Hahaha thanks man 😆
Hi Bern, You are the Volvo Equivalent of "Car Talk." Your voice is late night radio quality, your delivery is spontaneous and smooth. I am a FAN. Look for questions from me about when you 'lifted' Thor. Best to you.
Ohh thank you!! I appreciate that!
Dude, you didn't even mention that the v8 is made by Yamaha, which is a major detail.
Its made by Volvo, Yamaha helped design it, thats it. Stop the 12 year old dumb fanboy trend.
@hexagonosaurus5848 it's made by Yamaha... I'm not sure why you're confused. Volvo helped design it..
@@hexagonosaurus5848 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_B8444S_engine do you know how to read?
Oh well, you can now buy a boat that can be fitted with a Yamaha F350 or F425 XTO.
Drove both. I’ve had eyes for an XC90 for 20 years. When P2 got long in the tooth, I knew it stood the test of time in terms of build quality. I got a SPA Platform XC90 CPO last month and I agree with you on several points-it’s a cruiser, it’s safe feeling, it’s a nod to how much luxurious an SUV can be without making it too detached from its roots. We will see how my 2023 XC90 is at 50,000 miles.
Nice, yeah well said! I hope you enjoy your 23!!
my s90 just hot 80k and I've only had to do brakes and tires. love the car and still don't want anything else..
Love this review. Great job!
Thank you!!
I love the XC90 and I also have a 1st gen. A 2008 which still feels like it’s something special when I drive it. That’s for a very nice review and video. *****
Nice, yeah they certainly have a special feeling to them! Not the same as the new one!
Time to sell one of my kidneys to buy a 2024 😂
Literally 😂😂😂
I have the Old XC90 T6 and I think I'ma need to sell a kidney just to afford the fuckin fuel 😭
@iz2904 Dammm haha. I used to have a Volvo S60 T5 I will say that even was a bitch on gas
@kevinftw16 I have an S40 T5 also, and it's WAY worse than the 2.4i s40 I just sold lmfao & I thought 2.4 was bad
I thought 0.1 wouldn't make too much of a difference, but it really does 😭
Now I'm stuck with a 2.9 T6 and a 2.5 T5 lool 😬
@@iz2904 Haha. Mine was a 2.4 2006 S60 T5 I regret selling it.. gas mileage was probably my fault anyways... It was hard to resist doing 0-100 every chance I could get 🤣😂
2:07 Bang & Olufsen vs Bowers & Wilkins, BIG difference 😂
Your video has me all the more thankful for Falkor, my P2 2012 Volvo XC90 3.2 FWD Premier Plus in Ice White!
I recently had mine in the Volvo shop for a few days for repairs and I was given a loaner 2024 S60 B5 Black Edition. All of its tech with the large touch screen, outside cameras, heated seats, mild hybrid configuration, and automatic side mirrors really impressed me, but by the end I was ready to return to the familiarity of my own XC90. If I were to adopt all the technological complexity and flair of the S60 into a 2024 XC90, I'd be worried about which electrical component would be the first to fail.
It's one thing to address a mechanical or electrical sensor issue on my older 2012 model, but the computerization of the newer vehicles really concern me. The initial drive with the S60's new car smell was definitely the stuff of dreams and I was truly smitten for a couple days! However, what happens when that novelty wears off over time and one electrical fault can potentially cascade into another? Even though I work in IT support, I find myself wanting to maintain balance with how much technology is in my vehicle. This is what solidifies my preference for older vehicles that consider power windows, keyless remotes, parking sensors, and built-in bluetooth a luxury tech feature. At the end of the day, I just want something that can connect my phone for Spotify and reliably take me from point A to B with some comfortable, yet simple amenities. I don't want to feel like I'm driving a robot that's willing to give me the world on a silver touch-sensitive platter.
Yes, the tech in my P2 2012 feels worlds away from the SPA platform and even antiquated, but such character is what endears me to it. Since I was told years ago by a dealer shop that installing a third-party tablet on my front console would render the stock rear DVD players useless, I continue to use the standard layout to this day. Heck, I got excited the other day to find a portable speaker with a 30-pin iPod connector dock that allowed me to use my newly refreshed iPod Classic and iPod Mini devices! Perhaps I am turning into an out-of-touch soul at the age of 43 compared to the younger generations. LOL
Thank you! I appreciate that! I totally agree, that's why I prefer older cars too! Plus the more rewarding driving experience too.
Great comparison! The first gen still looks amazing after all these years, definitely a classy and looker Volvo. The new one looks just amazing next to the V8 one. That’s what you call a proper evolution of the first gen design.
Thank you! I totally agree. Thanks for stopping by!
@@BernonCars anytime! First video I saw of yours was about the S60. That lead me to buy my current ‘18 R-Design. 😊
35 minutes of pleasure! : )
Thank you!!
I think it's important to look at these of cars from an objective standpoint and not let nostalgia get in the w-, nah fuck it, old one BECAUSE V8 MOTOR
Older is better ‼️‼️
Ahh you gotta love the V8 sound!!! Awesome !!! Might try to find one for me now as my wife stole my D5 literally from me 😂😅
I love it!! LOL that's funny XD
THANK YOU, wonderful comparison.
Thank you!!
Surprisingly, Volvo lost that "bank vault" door sometime in the '10s. My 2006 S60 still sounded like a bank vault, but my 2017 V60 Cross Country doesn't. Ironically, I have an open recall for the door latches on the V60 because they might disengage partially if a large enough shock hits it (like accidentally jumping a crowned intersection at 50mph because you're lost in a city you don't know). I did want an XC90 V8 but sadly there weren't any in my area. Yours looks stellar and I'm kinda jealous 😂 I had a former friend get annoyed with me because once he saw my V60 covered in mud when I almost got stuck on my friend's farm. He berated me because "I don't have a rally car" and I said, "ok..."
I like how the SPA models were equal parts reinvention and evolution. I've heard the sport seats are too firm and when I got my V60, I had to get used to the sport seats as well, but the standard comfort seats regardless of chassis are incredible. Hilariously I think my V60 has Sensus 2(?) but it does everything I need it to. I don't have a real reason to need a screen like the SPA models and I'd rather not be distracted by it. One thing I love about the P2 and P3 cars is you can still get a Bilstein suspension kit for them. I started off mildly with the S60, getting the B4 OE kit and then stepping up to the B6 kit, but in the V60 I went with the standard model's B12 kit. I lost maybe a half inch of ground cleareance, but I gained a MUCH more neutral handling characteristic. On the factory suspension, the rear end would come out suddenly, but with the B12 kit, it's more neutral. No matter what I had on the S60, it was always nose-heavy, so I got used to it. One thing that surprised both me and a buddy: The P3 V60 Cross Country weighs 4000lbs. He'd driven it a couple times and said, "It feels like a truck, but handles well. No wonder it needs the turbo." We laughed about it because the S60's problem was its turning radius was within 3 feet of a Lamborghini Diablo or Chevrolet Tahoe.
I have to agree with you with that "bank vault" door. My 2011 1st gen Volvo V60 have a much better door thunk sound over a 2016 2nd gen Volvo XC90. Even an owner of that XC90 agrees.
Thanks! Keep up the awesome work!
Ohhh woww thank you!! I certainly will!
6:38 the GX470 was pretty much the biggest of the midsized three row luxury SUVs in the 2000's. I think the only one bigger than that in this segment back then was the Lincoln Aviator and Mercury Mountaineer (both based on the Ford Explorer).
Nice, I own the same Executive but 2011. My second one. Anyway, what`s the brand of the handsfree module? Thanks.
Very nice! It's available through a Facebook group called "LEGEND XC90" and all the info is in there!
Love your Volvo videos Bern. You really need to find yourself a P2 D5 XC90 to drive, they're absolutely sweet with all their low end diesel torque, and excellent economy. Unsure you'll find one in North America, but if you're ever in Aus, you're welcome to drive my 2010 XC90 D5 Executive.
Thanks man! I’d love to drive a D5 one day, certainly on my bucket list! I appreciate that!
What a great video. We have a 2012 XC90... love it.
Thank you very much! Nice! They are so excellent!
You give MotorWeek vibes. Awesome!
I appreciate that!! I love Motorweek so that makes me feel good 😂
Great review I live my V8 Yamaha Volvo XC90. Where is that Legend upgrade radio . I got mine installed and loving it .
Thank you cheers! I just ordered my Legend unit!
Great review! Where do the rear vents (B pillar, 3rd row, central console) get their air from? Which zone commands them?
Thank you! In the old one? The vent control is in the third row for some reason! LOL
I love your footage taken far away to car look better proportion. Good Job!!!
Thank you!! I appreciate that! 😆
Have you thought about putting the OBX v8 exhaust on it? I just got an 07 xc90 v8 i love it so far man maybe we can connect one day, cheers from Toronto
Cheers! Yeah one day I plan on replacing the exhaust with something a little louder, I think LOL.
Next time I'm in Toronto I'll remember to comment again haha
The older XC90 V8 have more consistent power from its pure V8 engine where the newer T8 is only a "T8" when you have enough battery for its electric motor. Otherwise the T8 will eventually become a FWD T6. When you do fancy doing full EV mind you it'll be a very short commute and it'll be a... P2 (maybe P3) performance. P, from electrified Polestar cars that's why I didn't say T2 or T3. Basically I do understand why the older XC90 is preferable.
As for a family car I'll take the new T8. As for a driver's 5 door wagon... I'll go for a V60, V70 or a V90 (proper V90 NOT V90 CC). Yes I do prefer sitting that low.
I do enjoy that V8 sounds though and the older XC90 is still more than enough as a family car.
You can change the rear diff bearings and seals to rebuild it, no need for a new unit. I did on my P2 D5
Yeah thankfully that's what I ended up doing! Worked great
21:36 Hi. Great review.
I am new to your channel and have a 2008 XC90. Debating whether I should upgrade (tech, body, and parts) or bite the bullet to purchase a newer one.
Using my cell phone’s display with the AUX port for sound does okay but prefer something modern. You mention a Legend Head-unit. Can you provide some details please?
Thanks,
-Jake…
Thank you! Glad you found me! I would upgrade your current one, it would feel sooo different. I just refreshed mine with new parts and it's a whole new experience now!
Nice video. I have a xc90 2007 D5 originally a 5 seater that I converted into a 7 seater. In from South Africa
Oh wow nice! Thanks!
Great video 👌
Thank you!
I have the old xc 90 in black and I still love it
Nice!!
@@BernonCarsme too. Mines an 07.
Dude great video, where can i find one Executive. Let me know if you have one or know someone selling
Thank you!! They’re so hard to find. I check Facebook and AutoTempest!
You have the most complete version of the XC90 V8 I have ever seen. Sound system, sunroof, perforated seats with massage, third-row climate control, second-row multimedia system, and the refrigerator, which I see for the first time in this car. So I was left with questions, does it have the factory 6-CD changer and Nivomat self leveling shocks?
I was sooo thrilled to find it! I do have the 6 disk changer, but not quite sure if I have Nivomats or not!
Late to the comment here!
I bet you do have the novimat. I just had to change out my rear shocks 3 months ago and they were novimat. And I only have a P2 3.2 awd. I ended up replacing them with regular shocks (volvo wanted well over $2,000 to replace the novimats) So i imagine you would definitely have novimats being fully loaded if they havent been replaced already.
As much as I like how luxurious and powerful the newest XC90’s are, I prefer the 2004-2014 ones because they had so many different engines and I really miss the in-line 6. The new motors don’t have as much personality and don’t feel fitting for an almost 5k pounds suv despite having more than enough power for the job. I’ll admit, the turbo in-line 4 engines are pretty torquey and feel great when you mat the throttle.
I totally agree. Nothing beats the old one!
@@BernonCars I might get an XC70 for myself! Looking at the 3.0T6 and 3.2 inline 6 ones. Those engines are pretty sweet.
I love this review. Very unique! I only drive Volvos and have owned many including a 2009 XC90 V8 and a 2009 S80 V8 (both purchased new on the same day) and we currently have a 2023 XC90 T8. The XC90 V8 and the S80 V8 both were platinums with executive package and the S80 had tech package w/ adaptive cruise control. They were phenomenal vehicles. Our current lineup is a 2023 XC90 T8 AWD Ultimate w/ Air & B&W, a 2013 C70 Platinum w/ Inscription pkg and a 2008 C30 2.0 custom order with every option but leather. My wife loves the 2023 T8 XC90 but I miss the comfort and the torque of our old 2009 XC90 V8. We had a 2018 XC90 T6 R-Design loaded to the max w/ p* and that was actually fun to drive. However, the 2023XC90 w/ google and the reengineered T6 powertrain was absolutely dull and boring. So we went with the T8. Its okay but I miss the R-Design spec. and believe the Volvo is moving toward a very boring future. I absolutely wouldn't replace the head unit because you will loose the Dynaudio customizations. Who needs CarPlay when you have the most customizable audio system ever factory fitted to a vehicle with integrated Dolby Digital surround w/ front AND rear equalizers? Its sad that the $3,200 B&W option in a post 2022 Volvo has removed any type of equalizer and balance/fader option. P.S. Please remove the Subaru badges and get a Volvo high mileage badge. The Subaru badges are for Volvo wannabees. You got the real deal here.
Thanks for watching and your words! I like my Subaru badges though, and I'm still just as excited for my new head unit! Makes me happy!
Your XC90 is WAY better than the new one. For the price of that new XC90, I’m taking a fully loaded BMW X5 40i with the M Sport Pkg instead. MUCH better car. Genesis GV80 Prestige (with the 6cyl motor) is a compelling option too for a few grand cheaper than the XC90 but the X5 is my cup of tea (I’m a BMW/Porsche guy tbf). I can’t imagine spending close to $90k on a XC90 when an Acura MDX Advance is $20k cheaper and the superior car. Only thing the MDX lacks is the acceleration of the XC90. I like the MDX Type-S too but I don’t appreciate low-profile tires on a family SUV as they go flat easily on bad roads and the standard MDX is proven to be really reliable from a mechanical standpoint. I can’t imagine wanting a new XC90 personally when so many other, BETTER, options exist. One thing I def appreciate however is your content!
Ohhh yes absolutely. I agree with you on all that pretty much haha. Thanks for watching!
@@BernonCars your most welcome! I love your content!
Very comprehensive review … makes we wonder whether I should just buy the older model and save $$$ 😅
Thank you! I vouch for the old one!
Love my 0 7 xc90. I'll likely always have it. 300 thousand and works great.
Just waiting for prices to come down
Nice! Worth it to keep for sure!
i have the new s90 but i had the xc90 executive v8 a few years ago and i still miss it
They’re such great vehicles!
Oh well, not be too despaired. You can get a boat and fit it with a Yamaha F350 or F425 XTO. Be grateful that Yamaha have "recycled" Volvo car's engine design. Oh and I DON'T mean Volvo Penta which is part of Volvo's (Truck) group.
We loved our P2 5cyl Volvos they were great vehicles. Last year I ran out and bought a 2022 and 2019 XC90 T6 after to my dismay I noticed on Volvo's website that they were all hybrids now which I do not want because I believe they will have serious reliability issues. I had R-Design steering wheels installed because my wife and I think the standard steering wheel looks funky and not very attractive and we think the split inlay rim steering wheels are just uncomfortable to grip. Volvo stupidly deleted exhaust tips for 2022 so I had to have those reinstalled. Before I even drove my 2022 and 2019 XC90 I had a total SW update performed and Polestar upgrade for more downshifting because for years the 8 speed transmission programming was so dumbed down and mindless it felt like you were being hurled to stops like a clown car in my opinion. I was always very surprised auto reviewers never seemed to notice and criticize this in SPA reviews.
SPA Volvos had brake issues and just finally revised pads to address premature wear and reoccurring pulsation that upset many customers that swore to never buy Volvo again in my opinion. However Volvo was years too late and should have had a service bulletin requiring dealers to lube pad backing to prevent brake noise. The lack of transmission programming when approaching stops made brake problems worse in my opinion. I feel like I went to war with Volvo for years on my Volvo related twitter account mynewvolvoexp making fun of brakes and transmission programming and would like to think I had some small part in putting pressure on Volvo to finally update transmission SW and brake pads. Even after getting the revised pads there was still grunting, groaning and barking when letting off the brake pedal from a stop and Volvo and dealers seemed totally clueless about this issue. I had to figure it out on my own and I believe it was because Volvo wasn't specifying SPA pad backing to be greased with brake lube which resolved this issue. I cannot understand why Volvo didn't figure this out and address this in testing. Volvo makes solid vehicles but does some stupid things in my opinion.
Sadly I believe Volvo has been driving away and alienating customers handing business to competitors that offer traditional non hybrid options while more focused on trendy culture and tech crap such as EV's and hybrids many people do not want. Most people that buy these hybrids don't even know what they are buying until they have reliability issues in my opinion. I believe Volvo has been trying so hard to please the wrong people that would never even buy a Volvo anyway while alienating long time loyal customers like myself and even potential new customers in my opinion. I have been trying to get through to Volvo executives on my website mynewvolvoexperience and through my twitter account. I used to see newer Volvos all over the road in California and now I hardly see any while I'm seeing competitor vehicles with non hybrid options such as the MDX now all over the road. I am seriously concerned about Volvo's future because I feel they have been driving away business.
Estoy por comprar un XC90 V8, creo que es lo mejor que hay en el mercado, ese motor es una delicia.
I agree, I love it!
I'm buying my first volvo xc90 v8, I live in Toronto Canada 🇨🇦 Picking it up from Montreal Quebec Canada in two weeks time, I'm excited 😊. I'm driving a 1983 BMW 533i, I got two e28's, I won't drive it this winter
Nice!! That’s exciting!
Got your armored rock shield underneath yet, @Bern?
Not yet!!! But I plan on it 😂
Hi. I loved your comparison review of the XC90 V8 versus the T8. I have a 2009 XC90 V8 for the past 9 years and I love it so much that I refuse to change my car because there really is no replacement for it. I paid £12,400 for it in 2015 and was told recently by a car dealer that I could still get 10k for it! Would you agree with this? Anyway, thanks for the great review!!
Thank you! That is excellent! You totally would, they are gold now!
I have 2009 R design D5 - amazing - even our mechanic said - “You bought the last solid Volvo”’ and I believe before 2010 models are the best! The china ones I dont trust much but would be happy to
Be wrong 😅
Nice! They are the last of the good ones!
Nice comparison. What’s first on your list for your V8?
Thank you! First will be the diff! I’ve just been slowly saving up for that job 😂
Hi, I am planning to buy old model of xc90, but not sure which one will be more reliable 3.2 or v8? Please advise 🙏
The 3.2 is easier to fix and has more affordable parts I would say, but the V8 isn't bad either!
I think you're incorrect about the turbocharged and supercharged comment. I believe they went to only turbo for the MY2023 T8 since the low end torque of the hybrid system means the supercharger is just an unnecessary complication to the engine.
Ahh yes I forgot they got rid of the supercharger! Thanks for the note
P2 still has the "utilitarian" look we loved as a family. The new one is too expensive, too delicate. We bought Volvos when they were nicer Subarus not ersatz BMWs.
Exactly! They feel much less fragile than the new ones. They like being used!
@@2steaksandwiches665 that’s definitely true! Mine sounds like it likes to be driven whether it be spirited or laid back it seems to keep going. I’d be worried that the new one might break and be like a Swedish BMW.
@@charlesrodriguez7984 time will tell. I can’t tell you how many p2 xc90s I still see on the road, even if they are beaten to hell and 15 plus years old . They just keep going. How many first generation X5s do you see? I haven’t seen one in a few years.
@BernonCars I need a website for a store that supplies parts for my VOLVO XC 90 4.4 2008, do you have anything you can recommend to me?
FCP Euro!
I much prefer the prev generations. I hv a 2012 xc70 w 3.2 - its been flawless - no issues whatsoever w over 150k on clock and plenty of power w 6cyl- more reliable without the turbo. I had 08 v50 - 5cyl nonturbo - also ran flawless - only issue later was a/c leak. Had 2013 s80 w turbo also but got rid of it bc transmissin was sketchy and wanted more storage. Id never get the newer xc90 bc its a 4cyl - so effing lame. W bullshit turbos and/or superchargers makes them less reliable. All to just improve a few mpgs. Only good thing about new gen is the seats are as good if not better than older seats. U cant beat vovlo seats - designed by orthopedists from what I've heard.
I agree! N/A cars have much less to go wrong. Simple!
The seats really are something else
For those who miss Volvo (Yamaha built) V8s, you might as well get a boat that can have Yamaha F350 or F425 XTO. It's good that Yamaha have "recycled" Volvo car's engine design. And yes I've mentioned Volvo cars NOT Volvo Penta (Marine division of Volvo group or Volvo Trucks/Buses).
Personally I don't really like the new XC90's steering. It's WAY TOO light!! Also can't feel where the car is heading, prone to accidentally get into a wrong lane especially on motorways. I don't like the idea of feeling disconnected while driving. My older Volvo steering is also light but at least I can feel where the car is heading.
Good to know haha! Still going strong!!
I agree, it's very light and feels disconnected. The P2 wins in my book!
I get close to 28-30 MPG in my V8 90 on the highway, not bad at all.
28-30!! That’s crazy! How fast are you going?
@@BernonCars That's doing 100 KPH. About 8-8.5 L per 100 KLM, which I believe is roughly 28 MPG. She drinks when towing though, which I was doing regularly and with up to 3000 KG on the back.... But too many oil leaks developing, so I use another tow car now.
ХС90 V8-BRUTALITY!!!
YEAH!!
any tips to check on a xc90 v8 before buying one?
That’s a good question! I may make a video about that 😂 primarily I would check for rust, they don’t usually rust but I see it sometimes! I would also peek underneath to see any leaks. I’d also look at the belt/pulley’s as the engine is running and listen for weird noises. Make sure the transmission shifts properly in all gears, and its hard to really test the AWD, but accelerating from a stop will kinda help figure it out.
Can you make a short video just driving the V8 without talking so that we can hear that beautiful sound.
I am sold. I found a 2010 V8 in Pearl White going for $4500.
I sure can! I did a V8 off road driving sounds video a few weeks ago too
Oh wow very nice! They look great in white
@@BernonCars here is the description of the car. I am hoping i find it when i am ready to buy and it has brown/orange kinda interior.
Beautiful pearl white in colour volvo xc90 v8.
Year model : 2008.
Gearbox : automatic.
Engine: 4.4l naturally aspirated.
●Folding mirrors.
●Park lights.
●Xenon lights.
●built in car fridge.
●Aux/CD player.
●Electric windows.
●Electric seats.
● Daytime running lights.
●Car comes with 2 sets of mats. Rubber/original persian mats from factory.
● Alarm system.
● Original alloy wheels.
● Headlight spray washers.
● Cruise control.
● Central locking.
●Park lights.
●Trip tronic gearbox.
● Power steering.
●Milage : 216k on the clock.
● Service history with log books.
Please do not miss out on this amazing deal , get the chance to own one of the old and super reliable V8's left .
Ooooo I love the Chestnut interior color. I'd buy it just for that 😂
@@BernonCars❤
If I am not wrong the xc90 V8 only available from 2007 to 2010? And how many options are there in V8?
The V8 came out for 2005 and went until 2011!
@@BernonCarsit honestly should have went until 2017 imo these little 4 cylinders are so boring 🥱
Another option is to get a boat with a Yamaha F350 or F425 XTO.
Yeah, I’m probably gonna get the 2008 version with a V-8 engine with all wheel drive
Nice, you’ll love it!
Be grateful for Yamaha for recycling Volvo car's V8 engine design which is now used on Yamaha F350 and most recently F425 XTO.
Swedish Car Mafia
Yes sir!!!
izit good idea to guy xc60 2012 with milage 180000 ?
That's not too bad
Bro, that V8 is Yamaha one - one of it's kind.
Yeah man it's excellent!
You can get a Yamaha F350 or F425 XTO but you need to fit one, two or so onto a boat.
You can't buy happiness but you can buy a Volvo XC90 V8 and that's kind of the same thing.
Exactly right 😂
Volvo shouldve perfected the 1st gen S90 instead of this BS SpA platform
Right!
The V8 is simply the best
Yes it is!
The new one doesn’t even have front fog lights ?? Looks like base model haha
Right???
It is funny to see a 8 on a 4 cylinders and turbo on a electric.😂
A car that bug and heavy has no business doing 0-60 in 4.5 seconds!!!!
Right!!!
Since the new Facelift of the XC90 there is no supercharger anymore
Thank you for the note!
V8 is the Winner 🏆 🥇
Absolutely!
The 2023 no longer uses the supercharger. Volvo has been trying to make these more reliable while they faze them out to become all electric. It’s very sad. I personally will only buy 2015 and older Volvos now.
Thanks for the note! Yeah it’s a shame. I agree
Eh did you go back to xc90?
Yep!
@@BernonCarsI need a website for a store that supplies parts for my VOLVO XC 90 4.4 2008, do you have anything you can recommend to me?
@@TAPETEPRETO FCP Euro!
@@BernonCars thanks
The tiny #4_Cylinder engines are the biggest reason I'll #NEVER buy a P4 Volvo. The 4 cylinder in a Heavy Mid or Large SUV model is just totally ridiculous
Yeah certainly not!
@@BernonCarsScotty Kilmer said small turbo engines are overstressed pulling weight like that and wear out faster than a large naturally aspirated engine or a larger engine in general. Well’s see how these hold up
The old volvo has a stance and character the new one doesn't have, and a V8....
Exactly 💪🏾
DO NOT CHANGE THE HEAD UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!! Please I beg you. BEG you. The touch screen is horrendous. Factory head unit is unbeatable. You will regret is. Please rethink!!
I had it on my old one and LOVED it! The Legend unit is great! I’m still planning on buying one for this one too!
V8 is much better no doubt
100%!
Omg, I hate those Beamer Mini Cooper wannabe four banger engines. BLEH! Friggin overrated with electric motor assist and was a subject of a massive recall because it didn’t have a dipstick LOL!
And friggin Volvo kept badging them with T5, T6, and T8?! Why not just say T4? or something?
Its so strange!
Not once not never. 4.4 and t6 forever
Absolutely!
The new xc90 lost almost all the cross country spirit. It looks like a car with also fake power.
I absolutely agree!
Something you probably didnt know whoch is pretty cool, if youve got kids, the p2 xc90 has a feature wiere you can pop out the centre console, and slide the centre child seat forwards, and have your child almost in between the driver and passenger seats!
True for all models except the Executive. The fridge is bolted to the floor.
@markbray2988 dad's got an executive but it's missing the fridge. Or I guess I have one now, as he's given it to me! Had no idea the fridge was bolted down! Here's something you migjt find interesting tho, volvo made a twin turbo test mule xc90 v8, and I'm now the owner of said car! It makes 700 wheel horsepower, and had a 7 speed! I have some videos up on it I believe, but I should be uploading more in the future :)
Oh yeah! My old one did that! Neat!
Hallo ! I buy a 2002 T6 with 46.0000 km on it, a very nice old demo car with full of extra, but not a third row who suit oss perfectly then we only are two. Very straight in the body, nearly any marks in the body, The biggest problems is the eloctronic, windoms .centrallock. roof hatch-dvd player. It is a very nice car to drive! So i drove it down in the left ditch !!! Now i resett it with Monroe schock absorbers and ONLY MOOG spare parts in front and rear of the car !!! If you want too know more let me know ??? I will do more work with exhaust and inlett and a littlé bigger tires, i hoppe !!! 275 is the nicest body !!! EXAACTLY !!! 😎🤠😸😻😹😼😾😿👍👍👍
Ohh wow nice T6!!