Another fantastic video. Yes, "the joy of experiencing" is such a powerful practice, especially sweet when experiencing is positive and eye opening when experience is negative. The labeling and the mind chatter are such a distraction. Stillness is delightful. 💛
I went back and rewatched the 2 talks on ego death. I think last time I was in such a hurry to see what was ahead that I didn’t really listen to what you were saying din these two talks. So much there. Thank you for listening to me yesterday and for bringing other people’s experience in to clarify.
You are an angel sent from … somewhere… and I thank you so much for your teachings. I find my ego shouting in disagreement at everything and it’s quite humorous… “yes I can plan a trip and I need to plan that trip!” But, what happens on that trip is out of my control and this is so easy to see and actually has been the experience. Unplanned chaos. I find your “are you sure?” method very helpful in breaking the anger when something I don’t think should happen, happens. For example I drop a dish and now have to clean the broken dish and the filth on the floor. My ego is so convinced this should not have happened and now when I say, “are you sure?” it makes me more angry at first and then makes me laugh. The ego is only happy when nothing is getting in the way of its expectations being met…. Which is ALWAYS. This is why I want liberation from self. It is a hopeless, losing game to keep the ego happy. Hopeless.
I love your comment so much!!! Thank you! and yes, so great to question all our assumptions even the ones that made us think that dishes should be intact and food should stay in them
Timestamps: 0:00 Just breathe!, 2:34 Not in control, 6:18 Expectations =victim, 8:00 ego afraid of death, 13:45 Joy of experiencing, 26:38 Direct experience (vedana), 30:06 seek silence
A way I did a similiar death practice before. Was imagining my self lying in a digged whole on graveyard, looking up, seeing my son waving, saying: goodbye dad. It was pretty effectfull for me!
These are great, I am so happy I found you. Your way of pointing is so clear. One thing that seems to arise here is that I can see the thoughts arising are not made by me. I am playing around with the senses and it feels the same for hearing, seeing, etc. I continously ask myself, what is it? Or what is it that is hearing, seeing, etc. There is a knowingness/beingness to the senses that is seen. Can you speak on this?
I would love to.. how far are you in the process right now? I just came to your comment here (I have a huge pile of comments I am yet to reply on) How can I help? Do you know about the Tuesday inquiry group we have every other Tuesday? Write to Todd on unfetteredmindfulness@gmail.com to get the zoom link. Also check out his channel for inquiries that look into exactly what you are requesting here. Hope to meet you
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum I am still working with fetter 1 and with the sensations - small insights here and there. I love Todd's channel as well and I actually have a 1 on 1 with Todd later in February. Will defs look into the fettergroup you mentioned. Thanks!
So happy to hear that and so happy you are still working on it. Yeah, for sure Todd will give you tons of insights. He is amazing at that. Let me know how you get along ❤️
I’ll tell you something that I did and it shifted my perspective very quickly . It was very unexpected and it spikes funny but try it anyway because it can’t hurt you. When your driving down the road imagine that you are not moving but the world is moving through you . Just try it a few times
I know!!!! Those exercises is a part of the 6th fetter falling - Subject Object when you 100% realise that there is no-one in here observing "that out there" it is freaky when that happens. Do you move in and out of it? Do you see the world in the 2-dimensions as it is and not 3-dimensions as our brain think it is?
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum I am not sure . It’s kind of like openness with movement flowing through ? I don’t have a way to describe. The thoughts that happen have changed and sometimes I laugh at what is “ heard”. The other day I said “ I am so glad that I don’t have to be a personality any longer“ when I was in conversation with my daughter . It caught me off guard and made me laugh. What am I even talking about?😆 I don’t know if I have had the same “ awakening” as the speakers I follow. I don’t think so. But there is definitely a significant difference in perspective. Before that I started noticing how my plants grow in the garden. I realized that what’s moving the plants is what moves me to tend to the garden . You know what I mean? There is no individual in the plant that decides to grow and turn left or right and I realized the exact same with me! It is very exciting because I have no idea what will come out of this body. What will it do? What will it say? Your guess is as good as mine 😆
@@swhite8381 I SOOOO love this! Thank you! Exactly! Such a relief realising that we dont need to "be" anything, fake anything or pretend anything but what is needed is just releasing all those ingrained assumptions of a personality. Love it! I had a participant in my danish group that said she suddenly realised that just like a tree can stand on a field and the sun might burn the leaves, that is just happening. The tree has done nothing wrong, it is not the trees fault that the leaves get burned, it just happens. And with that she released all guilt and shame because she saw that this is the same as that. Thank you so much for writing me, please keep me posted about your journey
Last fall, a youtuber I liked had recently died of cancer, and a friend was also dying of cancer at the time. I was contemplating that and decided to imagine my own death and accepting it. It clicked, something happened, I felt free for a little while.. but 2 days later I got these intense palpitations, like the body was in terror, which went on for a month, at which point I did some therapy and that seemed to be fixed, and I began to do a lot of shadow work, and within two months (early January), the 3 fetters fell.
I love those insights so much! Did you watch the recording from the inquiry meeting Tuesday? We are at the moment preparing for our retreat and are doing a lot of embodied awakening work. In the beginning of the meeting we do different exercises that you might find helpful. Let me know how you get on
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum thank you, I will check it out, I was catching up on the fetters from the beginning as you recommended when I tried watching from the 4th :))
Thank you for the work you put in creating this curriculum. 🙏🏼 I get the part that everything is just thought except what is in this moment. Then life happens, and a situation comes up where it seems that I actively have to decide something. Like right now, I am in a situation where I need to change my career path due to health issues, and I have no idea what I want to do because my identity is crumbling and with it my old interests and motivations that used to feel like what was navigating life. It's like.. I can sit here at home, dropping all the thoughts that come up about needing to figure this out, but then I would just end up sitting here until my savings run out, and be forced to act in order to survive... and I see that these are also just thoughts, but they are so logical? Should I just drop them? 😵💫😅
Hello. I am sorry you are in the situation you find yourself in. It is so hard to have the feeling of being forced to make decisions due to limitations of our health. I am sorry that is the case for you at the moment. I also recognise the fear "of doing nothing" and like you say: your savings will run out. There is a middle way though that the Ego rarely allows us to connect to. And that is breathing deeply, closing our eyes and for just a few moments allow this moment to be present in your experience as it is. Without any thoughts or fears but just be here right now. Calming the stress nervous system is so immensely helpful when we need to make big decisions since big decisions made on the foundation of fear rarely pan out to our advantage. I can recommend you to start with the curriculum from the beginning (as it seems like you are doing) and when you get to the 2nd fetter there will be more pointers and exercises to get into the source of your toxic starting point. All that will help you be more present in the moment where you can recharge and get the surplus to find a solution that is beneficial for you. Do you know about our Discord channel? If you want to I can post the link (that expires) and you can join and ask the Hive-Mind we have in there for their guidance and take on your process. Keep me posted on how you get on.
@@sonofnature610 You are so very welcome! You have the Discord link here discord.gg/RHnDB3As just bare in mind that it expires. And also are you aware that we are having meetings every week? Tomorrow we have the Q&A for members here on the channel and next week it's the Zoom inquiry meeting. You find the link for the Tuesday meetings in Discord. Let me know how you get on.
my mind is such a smartass. When doing the rotting-body-meditation it tells me not to forget the horrific smell of the rotting process, and when just looking at the wall, it cries: „boring! Boring! Boring!“ 😂 But if I just continue looking at the wall and ignoring the whiny mind, it becomes very beautiful. There is an object hanging at the wall and its boundaries begin to move in waves and it also can disappear completely for a short while, shadow and light are constantly changing. Thanks for these videos 🙏❤️
This came up for me this week.I asked the facilitator “Then how are actions done?” I was told there is no one to do actions.Everything is spontaneously happening.I started getting mad listening to you say the same thing.Can this logic be known on this side of illusion? Was my thought.But then you suggested “How are you making yourself a victim? “What are your expectations?” Yes! I want an answer,I want to awaken! Sure there’s a Gateless Gate but for me there’s a gate keeper.This is frustrating I want Grace! I do believe I’m struggling with my own bonds.The external agency I’ve created is a phantom of my own thinking.
Oh wow Tim! Thank you so much for writing to me! Yeah, I know, right?! That frustration feels so real and yet it is just another thought, another identification, another layer of delusion. It is crazy! Do you have a guide? Are you at Vinces Sunday meetings? Have you read Angelos book? You find all the information on my homepage Damore.uk but please keep writing! I want to hear more and I am here if you have any questions. You are SO close!
No I dont actually! It is one of those meditations that are not recommended until you are way far on the path. When you hear warnings about people going into deep psychosis doing meditations it is usually that one that has done it. You need to be ready to look at your death and there are not really anyone willing to risk that by creating the content of that guided meditation. I do, however, have plans about making it as a guided meditation though.. It does not have to be a challenging and harsh experience. It can be made with love and compassion
But wait, I’ve planned to catch a plane to visit my son. I leave in a few days. I did plan. Something may happen that I can’t go, but I did plan it. Please help❤
Yes it is about holding it lightly. We can buy Christmas presents and pretend there is a future where they will be given. But we have to hold anything after that very lightly and even be 100% ok with however they are received. Same with plan tickets.
I need to let go of the identity I held on to before experiencing narcissistic abuse. I'm not the naive person on the path to "love" anymore. I'm lost but I will find myself again with time. But I am impatient and hurt.
Wow, Flowj I am so happy to hear that. Yes, abuse of any kind really hooks into a deep identification and keeps us locked into doubt and pain. Well done you for seeing this. Do you remember compassion towards yourself? Guilt-free compassion to the person that ended up in a situation like that? Do you see it was not something you "did wrong?". It just happened. You were there, it could have been someone else? That kind of unconditional acceptance and compassion gives space so you can see the useful bits of the experience without regret. You do not need to find love. You ARE love! Believing it to be outside of you is delusional. Nothing can be absent. You are IT! Being lost is a good place to be because it makes it clear that nothing is static and everlasting. Not even hurt and pain. Impatience makes you believe that something is missing and is tied into the "seeking of love". I will repeat; Nothing is missing! YOU! ARE! IT! I am sending you much love and please keep me updated on how you are getting on.. uh do you have a guide? Do you go to Vinces bi-monthly Sunday meetings?
@@adhdandme2023 I truly appreciate you reaching out. Do you know of Dr. Ramini? She has a channel here on YT where she really goes into the psychological mechanics of narcissistic abuse. You need support in the process you are in. All the pain and hurt needs to be acknowledged, accepted and understood before you can let go of the "I". Or that is; You might see through self and realise that there is no "I" here besides the mind made. IF you reach that point then managing the memories will be easier because you truly understand that it was not done AGAINST you, you were just there. I would love for you to keep me informed about how you get on
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum and yes, I feel sure they have treated others this way so I don't feel singled out as such. Just all extremely disappointing when a narcissistic person reveals themselves/the narcissistic traits and you have to accept that that is who they are and that they cannot be happy being this way.
WOW! The expression "The Joy of experience" is amazing. I'd never heard it put that way before. That really blew open a portal for me. Thank You!
Thank you for your work !!! ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you so much!!! Truly appreciated!!!
Another fantastic video. Yes, "the joy of experiencing" is such a powerful practice, especially sweet when experiencing is positive and eye opening when experience is negative. The labeling and the mind chatter are such a distraction. Stillness is delightful. 💛
Love your comment. Do you notice that the joy of experiencing is equally useful no matter if an experience is deemed "positive" or "negative"?
I went back and rewatched the 2 talks on ego death. I think last time I was in such a hurry to see what was ahead that I didn’t really listen to what you were saying din these two talks. So much there. Thank you for listening to me yesterday and for bringing other people’s experience in to clarify.
Beautiful! Thank you Mary Ann. So happy you are here
You are an angel sent from … somewhere… and I thank you so much for your teachings. I find my ego shouting in disagreement at everything and it’s quite humorous… “yes I can plan a trip and I need to plan that trip!” But, what happens on that trip is out of my control and this is so easy to see and actually has been the experience. Unplanned chaos.
I find your “are you sure?” method very helpful in breaking the anger when something I don’t think should happen, happens. For example I drop a dish and now have to clean the broken dish and the filth on the floor. My ego is so convinced this should not have happened and now when I say, “are you sure?” it makes me more angry at first and then makes me laugh.
The ego is only happy when nothing is getting in the way of its expectations being met…. Which is ALWAYS.
This is why I want liberation from self. It is a hopeless, losing game to keep the ego happy. Hopeless.
I love your comment so much!!! Thank you! and yes, so great to question all our assumptions even the ones that made us think that dishes should be intact and food should stay in them
Thanks for guiding us. 🎯
Timestamps: 0:00 Just breathe!, 2:34 Not in control, 6:18 Expectations =victim, 8:00 ego afraid of death, 13:45 Joy of experiencing, 26:38 Direct experience (vedana), 30:06 seek silence
Thank you so much!
A way I did a similiar death practice before. Was imagining my self lying in a digged whole on graveyard, looking up, seeing my son waving, saying: goodbye dad.
It was pretty effectfull for me!
Amazing, right? Did you experience the shift of "who is lying here? Who is he waving at?" What happened after? I am so curious!
“Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face” -Mike Tyson
Hahahaha wise words
Thank you. 🌺
You are so welcome
These are great, I am so happy I found you. Your way of pointing is so clear.
One thing that seems to arise here is that I can see the thoughts arising are not made by me. I am playing around with the senses and it feels the same for hearing, seeing, etc. I continously ask myself, what is it? Or what is it that is hearing, seeing, etc. There is a knowingness/beingness to the senses that is seen. Can you speak on this?
I would love to.. how far are you in the process right now? I just came to your comment here (I have a huge pile of comments I am yet to reply on) How can I help? Do you know about the Tuesday inquiry group we have every other Tuesday? Write to Todd on unfetteredmindfulness@gmail.com to get the zoom link. Also check out his channel for inquiries that look into exactly what you are requesting here. Hope to meet you
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum I am still working with fetter 1 and with the sensations - small insights here and there. I love Todd's channel as well and I actually have a 1 on 1 with Todd later in February. Will defs look into the fettergroup you mentioned. Thanks!
So happy to hear that and so happy you are still working on it. Yeah, for sure Todd will give you tons of insights. He is amazing at that. Let me know how you get along ❤️
I’ll tell you something that I did and it shifted my perspective very quickly . It was very unexpected and it spikes funny but try it anyway because it can’t hurt you.
When your driving down the road imagine that you are not moving but the world is moving through you . Just try it a few times
I know!!!! Those exercises is a part of the 6th fetter falling - Subject Object when you 100% realise that there is no-one in here observing "that out there" it is freaky when that happens. Do you move in and out of it? Do you see the world in the 2-dimensions as it is and not 3-dimensions as our brain think it is?
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum I am not sure . It’s kind of like openness with movement flowing through ? I don’t have a way to describe. The thoughts that happen have changed and sometimes I laugh at what is “ heard”. The other day I said “ I am so glad that I don’t have to be a personality any longer“ when I was in conversation with my daughter . It caught me off guard and made me laugh. What am I even talking about?😆 I don’t know if I have had the same “ awakening” as the speakers I follow. I don’t think so. But there is definitely a significant difference in perspective. Before that I started noticing how my plants grow in the garden. I realized that what’s moving the plants is what moves me to tend to the garden . You know what I mean? There is no individual in the plant that decides to grow and turn left or right and I realized the exact same with me! It is very exciting because I have no idea what will come out of this body. What will it do? What will it say? Your guess is as good as mine 😆
@@swhite8381 I SOOOO love this! Thank you! Exactly! Such a relief realising that we dont need to "be" anything, fake anything or pretend anything but what is needed is just releasing all those ingrained assumptions of a personality. Love it! I had a participant in my danish group that said she suddenly realised that just like a tree can stand on a field and the sun might burn the leaves, that is just happening. The tree has done nothing wrong, it is not the trees fault that the leaves get burned, it just happens. And with that she released all guilt and shame because she saw that this is the same as that. Thank you so much for writing me, please keep me posted about your journey
Last fall, a youtuber I liked had recently died of cancer, and a friend was also dying of cancer at the time. I was contemplating that and decided to imagine my own death and accepting it. It clicked, something happened, I felt free for a little while.. but 2 days later I got these intense palpitations, like the body was in terror, which went on for a month, at which point I did some therapy and that seemed to be fixed, and I began to do a lot of shadow work, and within two months (early January), the 3 fetters fell.
I love those insights so much! Did you watch the recording from the inquiry meeting Tuesday? We are at the moment preparing for our retreat and are doing a lot of embodied awakening work. In the beginning of the meeting we do different exercises that you might find helpful. Let me know how you get on
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum thank you, I will check it out, I was catching up on the fetters from the beginning as you recommended when I tried watching from the 4th :))
Thank you for the work you put in creating this curriculum. 🙏🏼
I get the part that everything is just thought except what is in this moment.
Then life happens, and a situation comes up where it seems that I actively have to decide something. Like right now, I am in a situation where I need to change my career path due to health issues, and I have no idea what I want to do because my identity is crumbling and with it my old interests and motivations that used to feel like what was navigating life.
It's like.. I can sit here at home, dropping all the thoughts that come up about needing to figure this out, but then I would just end up sitting here until my savings run out, and be forced to act in order to survive... and I see that these are also just thoughts, but they are so logical? Should I just drop them? 😵💫😅
Hello. I am sorry you are in the situation you find yourself in. It is so hard to have the feeling of being forced to make decisions due to limitations of our health. I am sorry that is the case for you at the moment. I also recognise the fear "of doing nothing" and like you say: your savings will run out. There is a middle way though that the Ego rarely allows us to connect to. And that is breathing deeply, closing our eyes and for just a few moments allow this moment to be present in your experience as it is. Without any thoughts or fears but just be here right now. Calming the stress nervous system is so immensely helpful when we need to make big decisions since big decisions made on the foundation of fear rarely pan out to our advantage. I can recommend you to start with the curriculum from the beginning (as it seems like you are doing) and when you get to the 2nd fetter there will be more pointers and exercises to get into the source of your toxic starting point. All that will help you be more present in the moment where you can recharge and get the surplus to find a solution that is beneficial for you. Do you know about our Discord channel? If you want to I can post the link (that expires) and you can join and ask the Hive-Mind we have in there for their guidance and take on your process. Keep me posted on how you get on.
@TheAwakeningCurriculum Thank you for taking the time to respond with both compassion and detail. I would love to join your discord. 🙏🏼❤️
@@sonofnature610 You are so very welcome! You have the Discord link here discord.gg/RHnDB3As just bare in mind that it expires. And also are you aware that we are having meetings every week? Tomorrow we have the Q&A for members here on the channel and next week it's the Zoom inquiry meeting. You find the link for the Tuesday meetings in Discord. Let me know how you get on.
my mind is such a smartass. When doing the rotting-body-meditation it tells me not to forget the horrific smell of the rotting process, and when just looking at the wall, it cries: „boring! Boring! Boring!“ 😂
But if I just continue looking at the wall and ignoring the whiny mind, it becomes very beautiful. There is an object hanging at the wall and its boundaries begin to move in waves and it also can disappear completely for a short while, shadow and light are constantly changing.
Thanks for these videos 🙏❤️
That is such a beautiful description of how it feels when the Ego dissolves! Thank you!
This came up for me this week.I asked the facilitator “Then how are actions done?” I was told there is no one to do actions.Everything is spontaneously happening.I started getting mad listening to you say the same thing.Can this logic be known on this side of illusion? Was my thought.But then you suggested “How are you making yourself a victim? “What are your expectations?” Yes! I want an answer,I want to awaken! Sure there’s a Gateless Gate but for me there’s a gate keeper.This is frustrating I want Grace! I do believe I’m struggling with my own bonds.The external agency I’ve created is a phantom of my own thinking.
Oh wow Tim! Thank you so much for writing to me! Yeah, I know, right?! That frustration feels so real and yet it is just another thought, another identification, another layer of delusion. It is crazy! Do you have a guide? Are you at Vinces Sunday meetings? Have you read Angelos book? You find all the information on my homepage Damore.uk but please keep writing! I want to hear more and I am here if you have any questions. You are SO close!
Angelo Dillulo’s book???
@@Mimi-xs7gi Yes, are you familiar with it? Really good book! Very user friendly and very spot on. I really like it.. and I like Angelos approach.
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum ….I just got the book last week….looking forward to it.
What happens when things that are planned work out the way you planned them?
Would you have a link to a good meditation for corpse death?
No I dont actually! It is one of those meditations that are not recommended until you are way far on the path. When you hear warnings about people going into deep psychosis doing meditations it is usually that one that has done it. You need to be ready to look at your death and there are not really anyone willing to risk that by creating the content of that guided meditation. I do, however, have plans about making it as a guided meditation though.. It does not have to be a challenging and harsh experience. It can be made with love and compassion
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum ….I will wait….and do the guided meditation with you…🙏
❤❤❤
But wait, I’ve planned to catch a plane to visit my son. I leave in a few days. I did plan. Something may happen that I can’t go, but I did plan it. Please help❤
Yes it is about holding it lightly. We can buy Christmas presents and pretend there is a future where they will be given. But we have to hold anything after that very lightly and even be 100% ok with however they are received. Same with plan tickets.
❤️🙏
I need to let go of the identity I held on to before experiencing narcissistic abuse. I'm not the naive person on the path to "love" anymore. I'm lost but I will find myself again with time. But I am impatient and hurt.
Wow, Flowj I am so happy to hear that. Yes, abuse of any kind really hooks into a deep identification and keeps us locked into doubt and pain. Well done you for seeing this. Do you remember compassion towards yourself? Guilt-free compassion to the person that ended up in a situation like that? Do you see it was not something you "did wrong?". It just happened. You were there, it could have been someone else? That kind of unconditional acceptance and compassion gives space so you can see the useful bits of the experience without regret. You do not need to find love. You ARE love! Believing it to be outside of you is delusional. Nothing can be absent. You are IT! Being lost is a good place to be because it makes it clear that nothing is static and everlasting. Not even hurt and pain. Impatience makes you believe that something is missing and is tied into the "seeking of love". I will repeat; Nothing is missing! YOU! ARE! IT! I am sending you much love and please keep me updated on how you are getting on.. uh do you have a guide? Do you go to Vinces bi-monthly Sunday meetings?
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum Thank you Dr. Damore. I appreciate your words. I don't attend or belong to any group, no. Just a curious viewer.
@@adhdandme2023 I truly appreciate you reaching out. Do you know of Dr. Ramini? She has a channel here on YT where she really goes into the psychological mechanics of narcissistic abuse. You need support in the process you are in. All the pain and hurt needs to be acknowledged, accepted and understood before you can let go of the "I". Or that is; You might see through self and realise that there is no "I" here besides the mind made. IF you reach that point then managing the memories will be easier because you truly understand that it was not done AGAINST you, you were just there. I would love for you to keep me informed about how you get on
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum Yes , thank you. I have watched quite alot of Dr Ramini. She is very helpful.
@@TheAwakeningCurriculum and yes, I feel sure they have treated others this way so I don't feel singled out as such. Just all extremely disappointing when a narcissistic person reveals themselves/the narcissistic traits and you have to accept that that is who they are and that they cannot be happy being this way.