Great introduction, thx. And also thx for a closer look to processing in pi. Very profound. And I must say that the result is really good. The first time where I can honestly say this. Ok, very bright object, but very short integration time. Mosaicmode seems not to be the real game changer for now, but we will see. I'm looking forward to your calibration frame video. We will see if I will get in love with this small thing.
yeah I think you just need a wedge and point it more or less to the North (or the South). Polar alignment wouldn't need to be accurate because it's going to plate solve and build a model regardless!
Another excellent video-thank you, SK! I hope the smart telescope industry inspires newcomers to catch the astronomy bug. I also hope you had the chance to take advantage of the pristine skies for your own projects. In your opinion, how do you see smart telescopes shaping the field of astronomy now and in the future?
For me smart scopes are for electronically assisted astronomy not for astrophotography. Of course you take photos but with the current designs you’ll just never reach the quality we expect from an astrophoto. The direction seems to be going towards even smaller/simplified designs, understandably so. It will stay a valid option for people new to astronomy and I think it’s great for that but I don’t see them take over because as long as they don’t make 8”+ designs, traditional scopes will keep having an edge
@@the_space_koala Yeah, you are correct. A little over a month. Siril Script I've been using to clump all the data together for multiple days. requires 1.2.0 # Set precision to 16 bits set16bits # Convert Light Frames to .fit files #Convert all fits found in the home folder into Sequence lights convert light -fitseq -out=process cd process #Calibrate Light Frames #Decode the color matrix calibrate light -debayer #Remove background gradients (adjust if needed) seqsubsky pplight -rbf -samples=20 -tolerance=0.5 -smooth=0.5 #Align lights #and register the images to each other #First, create a registration but only save it #temporarily register bkg_pp_light -2pass #Then apply the registration seqapplyreg bkg_pp_light -framing=max -drizzle -filter-round=0.3 -filter-bkg=3k -filter-wfwhm=10 #Set precision to 32 bits set32bits # Stack calibrated lights to result.fit # Stack all registered images. The file name will be extracted from the FITS header stack r_bkg_pp_light rej 3 3 -rejmap -norm=addscale -output_norm -rgb_equal -out=../results/result.fit # Now move to the results folder cd ../results # flip if required # Load the stack, flip it, and save again load result.fit # Remove hot pixels find_cosme 3 3 # Flip the image mirrorx -bottomup save result.fit # Save the stack with data in the file name save linearstack$OBJECT:%s$$DATE-OBS:dm12$$LIVETIME:%d$s # Load the result image # and load it again load result.fit #Save the final stretched image savejpg final$OBJECT:%s$$DATE-OBS:dm12$$LIVETIME:%d$s savepng final$OBJECT:%s$$DATE-OBS:dm12$$LIVETIME:%d$s #savetif command not working yet with path parsing #savetif final$OBJECT:%s$$DATE-OBS:dm12$_$LIVETIME:%d$s savetif result_final load result_final.tif
Excellent explanation! I was wondering about this new mosaic routine-it's not without its challenges 🙂 Are you still enjoying the clear skies of beautiful La Palma, or have you already returned to ???
I think the flattener is already included - the field seems entirely correct! A larger sensor would be great but would increase the cost and make calibration frames even more necessary
Very good telescope. I would transport it on a mountain and use it for taking new objects, like the new comet C/2023 A3 (Tsuchinshan-ATLAS) and make a mosaic. M 31 start to be boring in long run.
A lot of people are doing it however there is no official support for it. People put it on a wedge then the scope compensates for not being level which reduces field rotation
Good job, make a lot of sense what you explained, I used also Seestar in equatorial Mode and works fine, but they do not an option to set it in equatorial mode works because the sky alignment process, any changes in beta about equatorial mode? Thank you for your time, great place you have all skies for you.
I don’t believe DSS would be able to do it as you cannot define an external registration template. A good free option is Siril! I’ll be showing more details on the processing when I do the video on the smart scope calibration frames as well!
Great video thankyou.I'm waiting for my Dwarf 3 to come so hopefully I'll never have to use the mosaic on my seestar, especially if it's a lot of hassle.
Great video and thanks for sharing. It seems as though it has moved from a quick and easy session snaping numerious targets in one night to a much more dedicated affair. Not what i imagined it was going to be and not for everyone i suppose given the time required.
I agree - whoever wants to keep it simple should definitely just stick to the single frame mode! It’s nice to have this option though for those who like a challenge
It seems a bit strange that one is going to buy a seestar for the convencience, and also invest in pixinsight costing about as much as the smart telescope and invest a lot of time actually learning how to use it.
Very easy to understand your explanation. I can't wait to use the mosaic mode on my Seestar.
Great video. Thanks 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the information, now I can't wait until this software update comes on the market.
I like your video very much.
Glad you liked it!
Excellent informative video. I'll wait till November for the Dwarf 3 or S30.
Excited to see how they perform! I’m waiting on both scopes
I've been wondering how they would implement mosaic - thanks for the insight into how it works
Thanks for watching!
Great introduction, thx. And also thx for a closer look to processing in pi. Very profound. And I must say that the result is really good. The first time where I can honestly say this. Ok, very bright object, but very short integration time. Mosaicmode seems not to be the real game changer for now, but we will see. I'm looking forward to your calibration frame video. We will see if I will get in love with this small thing.
Thank you I’m glad it’s helpful!
and just when seestar caught up to vaonis with the mosaic, vaonis moves ahead with multi-night stacking
I saw the update - competition between these companies is the best thing that can happen to these products 😊
Great info. I wonder if an equatorial mode for seestar would help the mosaic function run more efficiently.
I think anything works better in equatorial 😁 if there was an EQ mode you’d be able to do regular mosaics
@@the_space_koala True, what I'd really like to see is a VCR function, where I can pre program various objects to be imaged throughout the night.
Yes this would be very helpful! It could also help with field rotation if you image the same object at the same time every night for 1-2 hours max!
I wonder if it is possible to 3d print a tiny eq platform style tripod head.
yeah I think you just need a wedge and point it more or less to the North (or the South). Polar alignment wouldn't need to be accurate because it's going to plate solve and build a model regardless!
Another excellent video-thank you, SK! I hope the smart telescope industry inspires newcomers to catch the astronomy bug. I also hope you had the chance to take advantage of the pristine skies for your own projects. In your opinion, how do you see smart telescopes shaping the field of astronomy now and in the future?
For me smart scopes are for electronically assisted astronomy not for astrophotography. Of course you take photos but with the current designs you’ll just never reach the quality we expect from an astrophoto. The direction seems to be going towards even smaller/simplified designs, understandably so. It will stay a valid option for people new to astronomy and I think it’s great for that but I don’t see them take over because as long as they don’t make 8”+ designs, traditional scopes will keep having an edge
@@the_space_koala thank you!
I've been using mosaic mode for a month or so. The hardest part for me has been stacking multiple days of integration correctly.
A few months? I didn’t realize it’s been out that long, I only got it a month ago!
@@the_space_koala Yeah, you are correct. A little over a month.
Siril Script I've been using to clump all the data together for multiple days.
requires 1.2.0
# Set precision to 16 bits
set16bits
# Convert Light Frames to .fit files
#Convert all fits found in the home folder into Sequence lights
convert light -fitseq -out=process
cd process
#Calibrate Light Frames
#Decode the color matrix
calibrate light -debayer
#Remove background gradients (adjust if needed)
seqsubsky pplight -rbf -samples=20 -tolerance=0.5 -smooth=0.5
#Align lights
#and register the images to each other
#First, create a registration but only save it #temporarily
register bkg_pp_light -2pass
#Then apply the registration
seqapplyreg bkg_pp_light -framing=max -drizzle -filter-round=0.3 -filter-bkg=3k -filter-wfwhm=10
#Set precision to 32 bits
set32bits
# Stack calibrated lights to result.fit
# Stack all registered images. The file name will be extracted from the FITS header
stack r_bkg_pp_light rej 3 3 -rejmap -norm=addscale -output_norm -rgb_equal -out=../results/result.fit
# Now move to the results folder
cd ../results
# flip if required
# Load the stack, flip it, and save again
load result.fit
# Remove hot pixels
find_cosme 3 3
# Flip the image
mirrorx -bottomup
save result.fit
# Save the stack with data in the file name
save linearstack$OBJECT:%s$$DATE-OBS:dm12$$LIVETIME:%d$s
# Load the result image
# and load it again
load result.fit
#Save the final stretched image
savejpg final$OBJECT:%s$$DATE-OBS:dm12$$LIVETIME:%d$s
savepng final$OBJECT:%s$$DATE-OBS:dm12$$LIVETIME:%d$s
#savetif command not working yet with path parsing
#savetif final$OBJECT:%s$$DATE-OBS:dm12$_$LIVETIME:%d$s
savetif result_final
load result_final.tif
Yes, I tried this with the vespera and it was a mess. I didn't recognised that the seestar has it now. But I see light at the end of the horizon.
That’s just sunrise 😁
Excellent explanation! I was wondering about this new mosaic routine-it's not without its challenges 🙂 Are you still enjoying the clear skies of beautiful La Palma, or have you already returned to ???
It is definitely a challenging process to get a decent image out - I hope they will keep working on it to make it better!
@@the_space_koala Yep, or put a bigger sensor and a field flattener in that telescope, clear skies!
I think the flattener is already included - the field seems entirely correct! A larger sensor would be great but would increase the cost and make calibration frames even more necessary
Very good telescope. I would transport it on a mountain and use it for taking new objects, like the new comet C/2023 A3 (Tsuchinshan-ATLAS) and make a mosaic. M 31 start to be boring in long run.
I did take it to the mountain and used it for the comet, but doing a mosaic on a comet is next level difficult I'm afraid :)
Very helpful explanation of how this update currently is. The current efficiency issue is going to limit people to smaller mosaics IMO.
I agree, at least I hope it’s the case and not some insanely noisy images to come 😁
Very informative, what a beautiful location, incredible.
It really is! Not to mention the night time view...
Hi, a great video thanks. I'm excited and cannot wait for the release.
Rick from Australia
Thanks Rick! I hope they release it soon, it’s been in testing for more than a month
Thanks for the video. I suppose that this scope could be used in equatorial mode, improving the framing and mosaics?
A lot of people are doing it however there is no official support for it. People put it on a wedge then the scope compensates for not being level which reduces field rotation
Good job, make a lot of sense what you explained, I used also Seestar in equatorial
Mode and works fine, but they do not an option to set it in equatorial mode works because the sky alignment process, any changes in beta about equatorial mode? Thank you for your time, great place you have all skies for you.
No they have not added any EQ mode support yet!
can you please do a more in-depth video on how to stack the mosaic files? maybe even using a free software like deepskystacker?
I don’t believe DSS would be able to do it as you cannot define an external registration template. A good free option is Siril! I’ll be showing more details on the processing when I do the video on the smart scope calibration frames as well!
Great video thankyou.I'm waiting for my Dwarf 3 to come so hopefully I'll never have to use the mosaic on my seestar, especially if it's a lot of hassle.
Seestar S30 will be out soon which will probably have a similar FOV and a 4K sensor like the Dwarf 3.
I’m waiting on my Dwarf 3 as well - then we will see who wins the ultimate smart telescope showdown 😁
업데이트 예정인가요? 아니면 현재 업데이트 되어있는건가요?
Great video and thanks for sharing. It seems as though it has moved from a quick and easy session snaping numerious targets in one night to a much more dedicated affair. Not what i imagined it was going to be and not for everyone i suppose given the time required.
I agree - whoever wants to keep it simple should definitely just stick to the single frame mode! It’s nice to have this option though for those who like a challenge
@@the_space_koala
I on the other hand run out of sky after a couple of hours thanks to all the trees and houses around me. 😀😀
It seems a bit strange that one is going to buy a seestar for the convencience, and also invest in pixinsight costing about as much as the smart telescope and invest a lot of time actually learning how to use it.
I think the thing is they will buy the seestar for the convenience, then fall in love with the night sky and want more
@@the_space_koala Yeah. You are probably right.
모자이크모드는 최근에 업데이트된건가요?
I have no interest in a Seestar but watched this anyway 😉
Ugh that thousand cut edit is going to give me a seizure