Here is Why the New 2019 Sea-Doo GTX Limited 300 Is the Rolls-Royce Of Personal Watercraft!

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • We hit the water with Sea-Doo's most luxurious model to see how truly comfortable and capable it is.
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  • @Jorge-fy2nd
    @Jorge-fy2nd 4 года назад +9

    One month ago i get two 2017 GTX 300 limited edition, one with 15 hours and the other with 19 hours and I loved!! my wife really enjoyed
    Nice video sir!!

  • @tranz15
    @tranz15 5 лет назад +15

    love the abs light and turn signal indicators on the gauge cluster nice to know you can signal your turn ...

  • @WestCoastWatercraft
    @WestCoastWatercraft 4 года назад +43

    Love the energy of the host. This guy can give Watercraft Journal a run for their money with programing. Keep up the good work. Let us know haw we can collaborate in 2020 🇺🇸😎🤙💦

  • @maxflight777
    @maxflight777 4 года назад +1

    We bought the wake pro230. The intention is to tow wakeboards, Kneeboards and sofas ...
    We love it !
    The performance is incredible! I can’t imagine what a difference the extra 70HO makes

  • @johnparsons6860
    @johnparsons6860 4 года назад +5

    I love my 2019 GTX 300 Limited it will run circles around my Kawasaki Ultra , and it will throw you off if you turn to sharp been there done that ! One thing he didn't mention is the dive brake I love that feature.

  • @treyperry9722
    @treyperry9722 4 года назад

    Picking up mine next week. Absolutely can't wait

  • @livingdlife4076
    @livingdlife4076 5 лет назад +16

    I paid $13800 for my 2018, so don’t be scared of the MSRP, especially if it’s towards the end of riding season. We love ours and just got the gtx 155 for my wife. I will say in reference to one of the comments I saw, we do use the eco mode, it’s great for when I let my 10 yr old drive, he still has a blast and I can relax on the rear seat and not worry about getting thrown off.

  • @cascivic
    @cascivic 5 лет назад +7

    This beast is so luxurious..... Stephen should be wearing a blazer jacket!

  • @stevenelliott3444
    @stevenelliott3444 5 лет назад +3

    I love that you put the price in all videos thanks

  • @dillansexton9505
    @dillansexton9505 5 лет назад +1

    Cannot wait to use mine this weekend

  • @yorkchris10
    @yorkchris10 5 лет назад +5

    I really like BRP Linx system. You could have year round utility box.

  • @the_off_road_champs9020
    @the_off_road_champs9020 5 лет назад +4

    Great review, it’s awesome in the water you have a long sleeve collared shirt - luxury sir!

  • @williamhook9285
    @williamhook9285 5 лет назад +43

    Our fam is getting this jet ski tmrw and I’m so excited 😆

    • @MigySaan
      @MigySaan 5 лет назад +3

      Baller

    • @liveandletlive2894
      @liveandletlive2894 5 лет назад +1

      👌

    • @iplaycountry4174
      @iplaycountry4174 4 года назад +1

      Vix we just got ours, and... awesome!!!!

    • @williamhook9285
      @williamhook9285 4 года назад +3

      Iplaycountry417 yeah it’s soo nice, I’m 13 and my mom lets me go out by myself and I have the time of my life on this machine

    • @thenightcrawler7289
      @thenightcrawler7289 4 года назад

      Congrats man, I can’t imagine the happiness, it a great jet ski and believe me so luxurious comparating it to the other seadoos, in the summer i drive a lot jetski's with my friends and it an amazing sensation.

  • @careb34r02
    @careb34r02 3 года назад +2

    Please do a video review of the new 2021 GTX 300 Limited. I am looking to get one and would love to see some my info on it. Thanks.

  • @Allsurfacepressurecleaning
    @Allsurfacepressurecleaning 5 лет назад +13

    I've got my 300 Seadoo gtx limited and absolutely love it.

  • @jeffmiller2203
    @jeffmiller2203 4 года назад +3

    Getting our 2019 gtx limited 230 in a couple days

  • @lachlanchristie7701
    @lachlanchristie7701 4 года назад +8

    you should do a review on the wake pro

  • @maxflight777
    @maxflight777 4 года назад

    Love the simulated teak decks ! I opted for the wakepro230 because i wanted the ski profiles to tow teenagers on kneeboards etc. I would have opted for a 300HP WakePro if it was offered

  • @E3Wandz
    @E3Wandz 4 года назад

    I think we can all agree you have the best job

  • @chrisholland2016
    @chrisholland2016 3 года назад +2

    Love the brown yacht leather on that thing.

  • @KLFaber
    @KLFaber 3 года назад

    What about slow speed handling/docking/pivoting/braking? What was your top speed and body weight?

  • @mattmatt7072
    @mattmatt7072 5 лет назад +31

    Great there goes the price....same thing happened when they started fancy trucks...

    • @TrashPanda2801
      @TrashPanda2801 5 лет назад +6

      Seadoo still makes the spark that starts at 5 grand

    • @aaron-fauth
      @aaron-fauth 3 года назад

      Yea I do love mine tho

  • @kwanmingtang9628
    @kwanmingtang9628 Год назад

    I bought a 2022 GTX and wonder whether it has a launch control or some something that can deliver the same power. Do you have any advise on this?

  • @bassomatic72
    @bassomatic72 3 года назад

    Great review.

  • @matsskreosen5456
    @matsskreosen5456 4 года назад +11

    Why did I think it was James corden when I saw the thumbnail

  • @karlfarrulla6948
    @karlfarrulla6948 2 года назад

    How do you feel about it tracking and I’m rough chop?

  • @michaelterechow1859
    @michaelterechow1859 3 года назад

    I have 3 of these, they go good.

  • @thicok4555
    @thicok4555 4 года назад

    It’s 12:50 on a school night and man goes let’s see how loud the speakers are like no tf you trying to get me in trouble

  • @brzoza8105
    @brzoza8105 3 года назад +1

    Someone know how to change the distance to moto hours from miles
    Gtx 300 2021

  • @joshuahales2372
    @joshuahales2372 3 года назад

    Can u do all the new jet skis especially the spark trikz, RXTX, RXPX AND GTX 300

  • @allisonmarie5760
    @allisonmarie5760 4 года назад

    Does anyone know if the speakers on this ski is covered in the warranty.? I accidentally blew mine out-

  • @derrickjjohnson6924
    @derrickjjohnson6924 5 лет назад +1

    How much storage?

  • @prsgroove3117
    @prsgroove3117 4 года назад

    That sport mode takeoff was nice. 👍🏻

    • @SniperJ78
      @SniperJ78 4 года назад

      It's insane even on my GTX 155 model - LOVE IT!!

  • @keesvanneck7480
    @keesvanneck7480 3 года назад

    i would not watch any other review except this guy.

  • @Loscraft
    @Loscraft 3 года назад

    Would you rather buy this (used) or a new 2021 GTX 230?

  • @iplaycountry4174
    @iplaycountry4174 4 года назад +1

    Just bought one... only got 20 minutes on her, but.... WOW!!
    Thanks for the review! It helped my decision for sure! 👍🏼😄💪🏼😍
    We see a trend of couples riding their own jet ski’s together.. What a wonderful way to keep your love exciting, and alive! 💕💃🏽🕺🏽💕

  • @normt5463
    @normt5463 5 лет назад +3

    Come ago way since our 2008 Kawasaki 250X Ultra.

  • @zaronez462
    @zaronez462 4 года назад

    Nice comfort seabed👍

  • @LG-ro5le
    @LG-ro5le 4 года назад

    No link to purchase one??

  • @mdjak3686
    @mdjak3686 3 года назад

    Well done.

  • @vickenbastajian2369
    @vickenbastajian2369 2 года назад

    I wanna buy seedoo gtx 300 one day best of best seedoo jetski has to offer!!!!

  • @amineb4629
    @amineb4629 3 года назад

    Reliable ? Or a lot of problems ? And if i jump wave its ok ?

  • @lucasdurham6830
    @lucasdurham6830 4 года назад

    Where did they shoot this

  • @radameslara1457
    @radameslara1457 4 года назад +2

    Do you work at a dealer for Sea-Doo?

  • @Steve-yr5vi
    @Steve-yr5vi Год назад

    I'd have liked to have seen it on rough water, come to Annapolis and take it around Kent island, do that and I'll believe it can handler rough water.

  • @giomakethemniggasrun6717
    @giomakethemniggasrun6717 2 года назад

    Slow mode is great for fishing if you use your jet ski as a boat

  • @andrewedmondson6075
    @andrewedmondson6075 4 года назад +21

    Meanwhile I’m on a 92 Kawasaki 750 sx

    • @thomasherron1740
      @thomasherron1740 4 года назад +3

      I got a 03 stx 12f

    • @cinderbite
      @cinderbite 3 года назад

      I got the 2021 yami sj, 10/10 would recomend

  • @lachlanchristie1652
    @lachlanchristie1652 4 года назад

    Please do a wake pro 230 or gtr 230

  • @charlesdorsonnens2402
    @charlesdorsonnens2402 5 лет назад +1

    Would this be good for a beginner?
    (PS: i’m only getting one ski in my life so it might as well be fast so I don’t eventually get bored of it)

    • @treykirk1852
      @treykirk1852 5 лет назад

      Charles d’Orsonnens it’s expensive but no one can stop you from doing what u want

  • @SkodzGaming
    @SkodzGaming 3 года назад

    seem like a nice machine

  • @phantom5573
    @phantom5573 4 года назад +2

    trying to decide between this and the Yamaha FX Cruiser SVHO!

  • @frouchitude1916
    @frouchitude1916 3 года назад

    2:16 it is funny because here in belgium we just have 95 octane or 98 octane... When we bought a sport car the dealer tell us to put 98, so when YOU have a sport car what are you putting in?

  • @mikeriverajr4447
    @mikeriverajr4447 4 года назад +10

    wow, phone charger, extreme luxury. . .lol

    • @aaron-fauth
      @aaron-fauth 3 года назад

      And they don’t even connect to the speakers...

  • @mythicgamingmk1105
    @mythicgamingmk1105 2 года назад

    My father might get this Gtx limited 300 but the latest one

  • @lorinfortuna1547
    @lorinfortuna1547 4 года назад

    working on making a self driving one

  • @herpderp4097
    @herpderp4097 4 года назад +5

    Has a USB charger, Presenter: "and that is exactly what I am talking about when I say luxury features"
    If that's luxury you should see my house, I have these luxury items in almost every room lol. Hell my computer has 4 luxury items on the side.

    • @A.Rahman.
      @A.Rahman. 4 года назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @paulocallaghan6418
    @paulocallaghan6418 Год назад +1

    What would you prefer the gtx 300 or the rxtx 300?
    I know we all have different preferences.i have a 22 rxtx & im thinking of trading for the gtx not sure if it's a good move or should I stick with the rxtx?

    • @All-Miles-Matter
      @All-Miles-Matter 11 месяцев назад

      Not much difference. I have an rxtx 300, 2023. The only difference is the color of the padding, water temp gauge....I think that's it!

  • @codylockmancl
    @codylockmancl 4 года назад

    Got my 2 the other day got some footage on my page

  • @4323bubba
    @4323bubba 4 года назад

    Depth finder??

  • @sirlancelotm9067
    @sirlancelotm9067 4 года назад +4

    My 2018 Sea-Doo GTX 300 is legit the exact same as this one? I feel like its a bad "upgrade" from last years models

    • @pearce_nz
      @pearce_nz 4 года назад

      Ive got a 2018 gtx limited 300 too and yea the 2019 ones are a bit nowhere but I like the look of the 2020 model

  • @thomasherron1740
    @thomasherron1740 4 года назад +1

    I have a 03 Kawasaki stx 12f and a 2016 seadoo gtx limited 230

  • @THESICKSILVERADO
    @THESICKSILVERADO 4 года назад

    I have a 2016 Gtx300 Unlimited .
    Don't seem like a lot difference.

  • @nofameculture
    @nofameculture 5 лет назад

    Thank you! Muchas gracias!!! I was waiting for this review. Great info. But was the cooler recalled for safety?

    • @raptorcustomembroidery3927
      @raptorcustomembroidery3927 5 лет назад

      Only the fish pro cooler. The small cooler was not recalled. The big cooler apparently was recalled because due to its large size, a small child can be trapped inside and there isn't an internal latch release.

    • @SniperJ78
      @SniperJ78 4 года назад

      @@raptorcustomembroidery3927 probably WAS trapped inside - recalls only happen after incidents! LOL

  • @leoo0076
    @leoo0076 4 года назад +1

    300 hp!?!?! That’s a ton!

  • @albertkaci9425
    @albertkaci9425 4 года назад +1

    Review a Sea Doo GTR 230

  • @BosllaLighting
    @BosllaLighting 5 лет назад

    Cool~

  • @davidjordan6378
    @davidjordan6378 4 года назад +1

    What sea doo doesn’t tell you is the maintenance on there super charged models is very costly. They recommend rebuilding the super charger at 100 hours and every 200 hours after that. I checked with my sea doo dealer it about 800 dollars to rebuild one . Probably could get it done cheaper elsewhere but then it would void your warranty so they got you.

  • @arqjavierobregon
    @arqjavierobregon 5 лет назад +9

    The more I see it I still feel it looks like a transformer for the water. I do not question the performance and tech but Seadoo went to far with straight lines. The water is smooth and soft I still love the 2006-2009 lines much more aerodynamic and stylish.

  • @ModellbautechnikSalzkammergut
    @ModellbautechnikSalzkammergut 4 года назад

    How much is it?

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 5 лет назад

    The old name of "Dream Boat" is alive and well right here on this one!

    • @regsparkes6507
      @regsparkes6507 5 лет назад

      @Ptguy0618 All good toys cost money,..ah well, it's the cost of the hobby.
      There's another saying I'm sure you've heard, " Owning a boat is similar to having a large hole in the water, into which you pour almost all you money!" ( Or something like that! LOL!)

    • @sigor2011
      @sigor2011 5 лет назад

      @Ptguy0618 you can't get shit for 20k. I mean of course you can get a shit boat for 20k but not new with 300hp. This is for a very different riding then the boat. I actually have both, but waited a few (10) years before getting one as I find new pricing is high. Old models still give you good thrill without the price tag. 20k is also not the full price, gonna be $26k before you tow it out the dealership, with taxes, trailer and destination charges.

    • @JB-jn9kb
      @JB-jn9kb 5 лет назад

      @@sigor2011 in ten years, with inflation, they'll be charging 50k for these things, just watch. Full size trucks, fully loaded luxury edition are 70k plus, 20 years ago they cost 24k. Center console boats have gone through the roof also. Hell, i paid 130k for my 28ft boat with all the electronics. Going on the water is getting stupid expensive for folks.

    • @greg1474
      @greg1474 5 лет назад

      Ptguy0618 - Boats are a bigger commitment, require a powerful tow vehicle or a paid slip, and other factors. Boats are more versatile, but every design has trade offs.

    • @greg1474
      @greg1474 5 лет назад

      I just saw a 2018 GTX Limited with 0 hours for sale for $13,600.

  • @rashers9129
    @rashers9129 5 лет назад

    Cool 😎

  • @deadfool179
    @deadfool179 4 года назад

    It is pretty loud once you consider the fact that TF is litteraly just screaming into the camera

  • @peytonledford1971
    @peytonledford1971 3 года назад

    My dad has the same one same color

  • @factionfx
    @factionfx 5 лет назад +14

    usb ports should be built into basically every watercraft.

    • @haydensmith9654
      @haydensmith9654 5 лет назад +2

      factionfx my luck I would be holding my phone and flip the jet ski and get electrocuted

    • @oneeyedrone4293
      @oneeyedrone4293 4 года назад

      what about salt water ? :)
      i installed an amazon 12v outlet usb combo on my 2005 rxp center box, works great and easy to install

    • @factionfx
      @factionfx 4 года назад +1

      @@oneeyedrone4293 I would think they would be in the glove box where they are somewhat protected from the elements. And also made out of materials that would resist corrosion.

    • @oneeyedrone4293
      @oneeyedrone4293 4 года назад

      @@factionfx I guess, but its so much work for something people may use or forget open etc. The seadoo boats have 12v outlets that work well but stuff eventually falls apart anyways. Some of our stock switches even burn up in the sun not too long into the jet ski life, not to mention the clusters.
      Good idea maybe in the future, or perhaps a simple solution would be a wireless charge pad in the center console, maybe add a small towel on top of your phone to prevent it bouncing around.
      A lot of integrated solutions have a short lifespan as technology changes, dimensions change, and phones become obsolete.
      I remember a land rover a while back had a really cool design to accept your iphone 4 and it would hide into the center console, but once the iphone got updated, that feature became useless as the new phones would no longer match the dimensions or even the port.

    • @factionfx
      @factionfx 4 года назад +1

      @@oneeyedrone4293 good points! awesome discussion! I agree with you for the most part. Integrated iphone versioned chargers is definitely dumb.I kind of feel the same way about the wireless chargers they have now in some cars (thinking chevy). The phone is in a really bad spot to charge. Cigarette 12v plug in the jet skis would be a good, universal compromise (easy to maintain, no technology...just add your own 12v usb charger. I have ran SAE cables under the dash in my yamaha (2017 FXHO) and bought SAE usb adapters. They stay under the dash (out of sun and direct water). Time will tell on how that works. I am ok with replacing them every couple of years.

  • @je4266
    @je4266 5 лет назад

    Was that Techno?

  • @jorgehernandez1294
    @jorgehernandez1294 4 года назад +1

    What the difference between this and the rxt x 300

    • @All-Miles-Matter
      @All-Miles-Matter 11 месяцев назад

      Just color of padding, water temp gauge, and seat. I prefer the rxtx seat way better. It's just about the exact same machine. It's STUPID

  • @rsstnnr76
    @rsstnnr76 4 года назад

    I'm in the market for personal water craft. I've never bought one. I've talked to several mechanics and they all said a majority of their maintenance and repair work are on sea Doos.

    • @All-Miles-Matter
      @All-Miles-Matter 11 месяцев назад

      That's because sea doo has the highest market share...BY FAR. there are wayyyy more seadoos on the water. Hence why there's more repairs.

  • @DIFLAZIO
    @DIFLAZIO 5 лет назад +3

    Beautiful but even more if it had the neon yellow like Seadoo RXT-X300 if it had that colour and a colourdisplay like Yamaha fx cruiser svho
    Then i buy it wow what a machine

  • @bert4969
    @bert4969 5 лет назад +8

    RUclips loving the double ads

    • @greg1474
      @greg1474 5 лет назад

      Lil Maggot - RUclips has quadruple ads on some videos.

    • @denziiey
      @denziiey 5 лет назад +3

      On behath of RUclips premium customers I'm sorry😔

    • @greg1474
      @greg1474 5 лет назад +1

      denziiey - Not your fault mate!

    • @CP-kb1du
      @CP-kb1du 4 года назад

      Ever hear of AdBlock .........

  • @keving1774
    @keving1774 3 года назад

    How many gallons per hour gph does it burn at wot?

  • @najthesavior4286
    @najthesavior4286 5 лет назад

    Radical

  • @BrianNC81
    @BrianNC81 4 года назад

    Are they still using the dreadful carbon seal that can fail and sink the ski?

  • @BillyBob-dl3zc
    @BillyBob-dl3zc 4 года назад +1

    Mine didn’t come w a fire ex. I must have gotten gyped.

    • @maxflight777
      @maxflight777 4 года назад

      Billy Bob ours didn’t come with one either

  • @maxflight777
    @maxflight777 4 года назад

    If you buy a 230, be aware that the USB needs to be added by your dealer. Make sure you get it.

  • @berkalper4742
    @berkalper4742 4 года назад

    Looks so nice, but dang 850 lbs dry? More than a bit too much for my liking even with 300hp

  • @memememine1
    @memememine1 5 лет назад

    How does this compare to the fx cruiser svho

    • @jademichel5171
      @jademichel5171 5 лет назад

      I have both, the yamaha is a great machine, but the gtx300 a different kind of pwc

    • @s.paulguillory6122
      @s.paulguillory6122 5 лет назад +1

      @@jademichel5171 elaborate please

    • @jademichel5171
      @jademichel5171 5 лет назад +1

      Just my opinion, but the yamaha is awesome to ride, but the gtx is faster, rides smoother, turns sharper, just seems like a better all around pwc, now that being said, I'm sure the yamaha will last longer, it just feels like a well put together ski

  • @jetbikes1
    @jetbikes1 5 лет назад +3

    Great review man but that Seat looks like a big Dog Pile in my back yard ! God hope it come in different colors . Nice machine but that Brown color has to go on my end of town .

    • @greg1474
      @greg1474 5 лет назад

      You have never seen brown leather color before?

    • @BillyBob-dl3zc
      @BillyBob-dl3zc 4 года назад

      That’s the only color it comes in. Looks like a floater terd of the sea. Sea duke. Or sea dooque. 😬

    • @SniperJ78
      @SniperJ78 4 года назад

      You can get a decal/wrap kit - my GTX 155 model is Blue and Grey with a black swim platform - much better colour.

  • @willfarver8841
    @willfarver8841 4 года назад +1

    Me has dat model

  • @Masterchief.1033
    @Masterchief.1033 5 лет назад +2

    Where is the FISH PRO review

  • @1benhouston1
    @1benhouston1 5 лет назад

    Putting Sea Doo and Luxury/Quality in the same video is mind blowing.

    • @greg1474
      @greg1474 5 лет назад

      Ben Sowrey - Why?

  • @jprivet5601
    @jprivet5601 5 лет назад +2

    I have the WakePro230. Awesome machine but never had anything with so much of that black piano plastic garbage that got full of scratches and swirl marks

  • @owensrandomvideos8913
    @owensrandomvideos8913 4 года назад +1

    I’m in MN and just got a new rxpx 300 and the top speed is 75 mph so I don’t know what he is talking about with the speed limit

  • @joeykmo
    @joeykmo 5 лет назад +2

    for a better review. what's your weight and height?

  • @1JOEYTHEMAN1
    @1JOEYTHEMAN1 5 лет назад +18

    Just buy a boat at this point

    • @lewiswhite7023
      @lewiswhite7023 5 лет назад +6

      1JOEYTHEMAN1 If you have the time and money for one of these things then chances are you have the money for a boat as well

    • @greg1474
      @greg1474 5 лет назад +3

      1JOEYTHEMAN1 - I found 2018 and 2019 models (new) for sale on PWC Trader for much less than $20K. A decent boat will cost you much more, not to mention one with a couple of features the GTX Limited has. Boats are great. So are jet skis. Each has pros and cons.

    • @brookswolfe4722
      @brookswolfe4722 3 года назад

      no

  • @CP-kb1du
    @CP-kb1du 4 года назад

    Ski is the same size of 70's Luxury Car

  • @goodtogrow7774
    @goodtogrow7774 4 года назад

    The only thing I don't like about my kawasaki is always holding the throttle and only having one so I can't switch hands.

  • @nishajo7407
    @nishajo7407 4 года назад +49

    I’m only here cause my boyfriend sent me to see the new toy he’s getting 😒

  • @ryantoomey611
    @ryantoomey611 5 лет назад +14

    You might as well buy a boat. People don't buy jet skis for luxury.

    • @carsonudee1540
      @carsonudee1540 5 лет назад +6

      Ryan Toomey if you have the money for one of these bad boys chances are you probably have a nice boat too

    • @dr.dfargo2921
      @dr.dfargo2921 5 лет назад +4

      I did, Yamaha FX Cruiser, cruising the CA lakes and the Delta nice and cheaper then a boat Maint., Cleaning ECT...

    • @jademichel5171
      @jademichel5171 5 лет назад +5

      I love mine, easier than a boat

    • @greg1474
      @greg1474 5 лет назад +3

      I respectfully disagree. There are pros and cons to owning either a jet ski or a boat. Yes, you can take more friends/family out on your boat and do things you can’t do with a jet ski. But the reverse is also true. With a jet ski, you don’t require an expensive pickup to tow it, you can tow with a small Jeep or SUV. You can store the jet ski at your house instead of paying expensive slip fees. The jet ski is more nimble and easier to maneuver, and has a very shallow draft. Not to mention sheer speed and freedom. Boats are great - but they are a much bigger commitment. I can see myself buying this GTX Limited model. It combines the best features of a jet ski with more luxury, room, and features. It gives consumers more choices.

    • @justinbiggs1005
      @justinbiggs1005 4 года назад +1

      Jet skis and boats are Similar to motorcycles and cars. The sea doo gtx is essentially a touring motorcycle on water. Why would someone buy it over a boat? Simple. They like riding on top instead of sitting inside.

  • @wholeass83
    @wholeass83 5 лет назад +1

    if youre going to force ads atleast make them relevant to the viewers

  • @johannesamatdarso6200
    @johannesamatdarso6200 4 года назад

    2.18 you have to use 91 what?