Actually, it was President Estrada's term that the US started this idea of serioulsy provoking the Philippines to confront China. There was this agreement with the US called the Visiting Forces Agreement, which is a military strategy to have US warships in the Philippines in lieu of the abrogated Subic Naval Base and other military agreements. And then, it was also President Estrada's term that the rusty ship was put on shore. But then the actual provocation did not happen because he was ousted from the presidency via people power2. Sorry for Capt America. Then, came President Macapagal, an economist, who knows the hidden agenda of US, did not pursue the action to face China
Listening to this very interesting and informative discussion, it is reasonably clear from an outsiders point of view, that because of the declaration of ongoing mutually beneficial agreements China has made with other nations in the region, it makes me wonder as to the reason for the implementation of these domestic laws by the Philipines that are obviously designed to cause friction. With the US having such a significant indluence in the Philipines, is this tension that is designed to destablize the region at the behest of the Americans? After all, the US is very bellicose toward China's for its resistance toward US imperialist hegemonic domination, and the fact that the US is constantly threatening war. Doesn't the Philipines administration understand the seriousness of the threat to China's sovereignty it poses by permitting the US military a means to get through the virtual portcullis that the nine dash line represents? Let me remind everyone of the words of Henry Kissenger himself. To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. One last point. The US was the driving force behind the NATO push east toward Russia, which broke the promises they made to Russia at the fall of the Berlin wall, and to add to this betrayal is their desire to use Ukraine as a pawn to attempt to weaken Russia so they could impliment a coup against Putin, and in that event, put in a US servile administration. Now it looks as though the Ukraine is being abandoned by the US to suffer whatever fate it will face for its war with Russia. In any war the US has with China, the Philipines may face a similar fate as Ukraine, because the US is a selfish and fickle friend that abandons its allies when the going gets tough. Bellicose American politicians have bragged about the great deal the Ukraine is for the US because they're not expending US lives in their proxy war with Russia. The US may fight hard to protect its military assets in the Philipines, but I doubt they'll expend valuable and finite resources defending the Philipines people, they don't even care for their own people or country, what makes the Philipines think they will care for them?
These people do not even understand the LAW OF THE SEA while keep Mentioning the UNCLOS🤣🤣 the UNCLOS only alow a maximum claim up to 500km away from your coastline , the scarbourough and meschiep reff and ayungin shoal is more 1000km away from china and only 100km away from the philippines, my question is i think you follow the law of another planet and not the law of the earth🤣🤣
@Wayne-tb8tk What fact?? China's dash line is just started in 1947 after world war two, those dash line was draw by the japanese and claim by Taiwan and china after that claim it also, china history claim in south china said that thier fishermen fish thier in ancient time🤣, you know not because you fish thier doesn't mean it's yours🤣 and that was proven by the ONCLOS in 2016. The Philippines claim was beggan in Spanish era 1700's and we have an ancient map to support that,(The Antonio Velarde Map), the Paris treaty between Spain and U.S and the Washington treaty of Spain and U.S to extend Philippine territory to south china sea dates back to 1898. And the UNCLOS that recognize Philippines claim. That's is why china is very afraid to sue Philippines in international court because they know they have no enough evidence and bound to lose, the only thing that keep china claim right is because they have might (Might is Right) they use thier force to claim it, and in simple terms that is called EXPANSION, INVASION. ect. That's why no countries support them, not even Russia and north Korea.
Why is Vietnam keeping quiet? Or Vietnam and Philippines have already secretly signed a defence and military agreement to deepen collaboration on maritime security in Aug 2024??
Philippines has all the legality and evidence that they own the area, if china believe that they have a strong evidence of to claim the area then why they are so very afraid to sue Philippines in any international court????
China has the option to take its case against the Philippines to an international court. The narratives being presented by China are just that-narratives-mostly accepted only within China itself, and they clearly contradict established international law.
@timawa22 USE YR BRAIN....WHEN CHINA RECLAIMATION WORKS ON PARACEL ISLAND...EVEN USA DID NOT SAY ANYTHING....NOW WANTS TO USE PINOY'S AS PROXY IDXOXT NATIONS....
If CHina is willing to Have Joint exploaration and sharing of Resources and cooperation of their EEZ and let South east asian to built artificial islands there, have the South East Asian claimant ship around China EEZ the Coast guards and Fishing vessels well and good.
In essence, UNCLOS, including provisions related to the EEZ does not supersede established sovereignty or sovereign rights. Examine the Aegean Sea. The maritime boundary between Greece and Turkey has remained unchanged both prior to and following the UNCLOS. Greece possesses full sovereignty over the entire Aegean Sea, while Turkey is limited to a sovereignty of only 3 nautical miles, which is less than the 12 nautical miles stipulated by UNCLOS.. Philippines did sent EEZ application in the South China Sea to UN. The application was rejected by UN that make Philippines do not have EEZ recognized by UN in the South China sea according to UNCLOS. (UN ejected Turkey's 6 Nmiles water boundary application. This leading case is in consistent with the rejection of EEZ application from Phillipines in the South China Sea, that EEZ does not supersede established sovereignty or sovereign rights.) China / Taiwan legal claim was since 1840, supported by various treaties, with France since 1886 (the one I had mentioned is one of them which against the Vietnam’s claim), with Japan 1895, 1947 and 1952. Definitely the ownership over these islands and marine water belong to China / Taiwan. Malaysia / Indonesia / Brunei claim part of the area under UNCLOS. However all of them take very low profile because they knew the UNCLOS cannot supersede the sovereignty and sovereign rights of China / Taiwan before the UNCLOS.
There is no joint gas and oil exploration on 10 Billions , only fishery, green abd blue mining. And Wind/Solar between Envision and hope local companies Indonesia.
What is the use of the international law? Is it really DIFFICULT of CHINA TO ABIDE THE RULES? China is the one COMPLICATING THE SITUATION. Accept and RESPECT the RULING,that the PHILIPPINES HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS OF THE WEST PHILIPPINE SEA..
This situation is quite absurd. Under international law, specifically the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), the Philippines lacks the legal basis to enact the two new laws in question. The Philippines submitted an application for an Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) in the South China Sea; however, this application was rejected by the United Nations, resulting in the absence of any recognized EEZ for the Philippines in that region. Consequently, the Philippines has enacted two laws that are not only unlawful but also stem from unfounded assumptions, contradicting the UN's official stance of not recognizing any Philippine EEZ in the South China Sea.
@@ArdiantothehulkIt is a shame for the Philippines government to state the new laws are based on UNCLOS where the UNCLOS never recognized Philippines have a legal EEZ in the South China Sea.
@@Ardiantothehulk Winning the 2016 rulling will lead to UN approval on the EEZ apply from Phillipines. The fact is UN have rejected the EEZ application mean Phillippines never win anything in 2016 rulling. Even worst, before the 2016 rulling, Phillpines is said to be "having a disputed EEZ in the South China Sea. According to the rulling, the rejection from UN on the Philippines EEZ application means Phillippines "have no UN recognized EEZ in the South China Sea or UN had prohibited Philippines to have a EEZ in the South China Sea according to 2016 rulling".
there no place for greediness in south east asia ..philppines have citizens also that needs that resources in that place in west phil sea not only china need that perhaps its near our shoreline..stop greediness stop intruding our country water. china is a big country they have enough resources there stop intruding other resources withyour imagenary 11dashline covering all the water in south china sea..
@@JunBermz the fact is china and Taiwan owns SCS before unclos eez even existed. It's Philippines that is spewing propaganda after robbing China's spratlies in the 70s.
Lol😂 CHINA LOSE IT'S CASE ON THE ARBITRAL TRIBUNAL UNCLOS (INTERNATIONAL LAW) STOP REVERSING THE TRUTH....WHY DON'T U WANT TO FACE THE PHILIPPINES ON INTERNATIONAL COURT HEAD ON!! TO PROVE UR EVIDENCE OF THAT IMAGINATY HISTORICAL CLAIMS THAT'S STUPID!!!😂😂😂
The arbitrary tribunal is a party formed by a private legal company who rented a spot in the ICC. It is being used by an opportunistic few westerners to create a dispute by supporting one party against another. There is a few claimants to those areas. Taiwan has a eleven dash line , Vietnam fishes there, Malaysia and Brunei have claims too. However these disputes can be managed locally without the US and the West stirring up the pot with their wooden spoon. This part of the world has been a commercial sea link between China and all the south East Asians countries for thousands of years before the arrival of the colonial west and Imperialistic Japan.
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Actually, it was President Estrada's term that the US started this idea of serioulsy provoking the Philippines to confront China. There was this agreement with the US called the Visiting Forces Agreement, which is a military strategy to have US warships in the Philippines in lieu of the abrogated Subic Naval Base and other military agreements. And then, it was also President Estrada's term that the rusty ship was put on shore. But then the actual provocation did not happen because he was ousted from the presidency via people power2. Sorry for Capt America. Then, came President Macapagal, an economist, who knows the hidden agenda of US, did not pursue the action to face China
Listening to this very interesting and informative discussion, it is reasonably clear from an outsiders point of view, that because of the declaration of ongoing mutually beneficial agreements China has made with other nations in the region, it makes me wonder as to the reason for the implementation of these domestic laws by the Philipines that are obviously designed to cause friction. With the US having such a significant indluence in the Philipines, is this tension that is designed to destablize the region at the behest of the Americans? After all, the US is very bellicose toward China's for its resistance toward US imperialist hegemonic domination, and the fact that the US is constantly threatening war. Doesn't the Philipines administration understand the seriousness of the threat to China's sovereignty it poses by permitting the US military a means to get through the virtual portcullis that the nine dash line represents? Let me remind everyone of the words of Henry Kissenger himself. To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. One last point. The US was the driving force behind the NATO push east toward Russia, which broke the promises they made to Russia at the fall of the Berlin wall, and to add to this betrayal is their desire to use Ukraine as a pawn to attempt to weaken Russia so they could impliment a coup against Putin, and in that event, put in a US servile administration. Now it looks as though the Ukraine is being abandoned by the US to suffer whatever fate it will face for its war with Russia. In any war the US has with China, the Philipines may face a similar fate as Ukraine, because the US is a selfish and fickle friend that abandons its allies when the going gets tough. Bellicose American politicians have bragged about the great deal the Ukraine is for the US because they're not expending US lives in their proxy war with Russia. The US may fight hard to protect its military assets in the Philipines, but I doubt they'll expend valuable and finite resources defending the Philipines people, they don't even care for their own people or country, what makes the Philipines think they will care for them?
Well said.
I am afraid China doesn't really understand how wrong they are with this regard. They have more to lose than win...
These people do not even understand the LAW OF THE SEA while keep Mentioning the UNCLOS🤣🤣 the UNCLOS only alow a maximum claim up to 500km away from your coastline , the scarbourough and meschiep reff and ayungin shoal is more 1000km away from china and only 100km away from the philippines, my question is i think you follow the law of another planet and not the law of the earth🤣🤣
It would be difficult to try and get anyone with limited intelligence to understand even the simplest facts !!
@Wayne-tb8tk What fact?? China's dash line is just started in 1947 after world war two, those dash line was draw by the japanese and claim by Taiwan and china after that claim it also, china history claim in south china said that thier fishermen fish thier in ancient time🤣, you know not because you fish thier doesn't mean it's yours🤣 and that was proven by the ONCLOS in 2016. The Philippines claim was beggan in Spanish era 1700's and we have an ancient map to support that,(The Antonio Velarde Map), the Paris treaty between Spain and U.S and the Washington treaty of Spain and U.S to extend Philippine territory to south china sea dates back to 1898. And the UNCLOS that recognize Philippines claim. That's is why china is very afraid to sue Philippines in international court because they know they have no enough evidence and bound to lose, the only thing that keep china claim right is because they have might (Might is Right) they use thier force to claim it, and in simple terms that is called EXPANSION, INVASION. ect. That's why no countries support them, not even Russia and north Korea.
This comment is underrated 😂 hahaha
True the three monkeys conversation is very nonsense
@@belgaraul9794 and they also hired a Filipino that is married to a Chinese monkey 😝
Wumao little pinks and 50 cents go to arbitration and lets see what would happen if other nations agree to you😂
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Why is Vietnam keeping quiet? Or Vietnam and Philippines have already secretly signed a defence and military agreement to deepen collaboration on maritime security in Aug 2024??
Philippines just want to please and impress their master. The Master of Provocation
Philippines has all the legality and evidence that they own the area, if china believe that they have a strong evidence of to claim the area then why they are so very afraid to sue Philippines in any international court????
China has the option to take its case against the Philippines to an international court. The narratives being presented by China are just that-narratives-mostly accepted only within China itself, and they clearly contradict established international law.
China is the Master !!!!!
@timawa22 USE YR BRAIN....WHEN CHINA RECLAIMATION WORKS ON PARACEL ISLAND...EVEN USA DID NOT SAY ANYTHING....NOW WANTS TO USE PINOY'S AS PROXY IDXOXT NATIONS....
@@anthonytran7566china owns nothing wuamo
If CHina is willing to Have Joint exploaration and sharing of Resources and cooperation of their EEZ and let South east asian to built artificial islands there, have the South East Asian claimant ship around China EEZ the Coast guards and Fishing vessels well and good.
What part of UNCLOS are you referring? Claiming almost entire of scs are against the law
In essence, UNCLOS, including provisions related to the EEZ does not supersede established sovereignty or sovereign rights.
Examine the Aegean Sea. The maritime boundary between Greece and Turkey has remained unchanged both prior to and following the UNCLOS. Greece possesses full sovereignty over the entire Aegean Sea, while Turkey is limited to a sovereignty of only 3 nautical miles, which is less than the 12 nautical miles stipulated by UNCLOS..
Philippines did sent EEZ application in the South China Sea to UN. The application was rejected by UN that make Philippines do not have EEZ recognized by UN in the South China sea according to UNCLOS. (UN ejected Turkey's 6 Nmiles water boundary application. This leading case is in consistent with the rejection of EEZ application from Phillipines in the South China Sea, that EEZ does not supersede established sovereignty or sovereign rights.)
China / Taiwan legal claim was since 1840, supported by various treaties, with France since 1886 (the one I had mentioned is one of them which against the Vietnam’s claim), with Japan 1895, 1947 and 1952. Definitely the ownership over these islands and marine water belong to China / Taiwan.
Malaysia / Indonesia / Brunei claim part of the area under UNCLOS. However all of them take very low profile because they knew the UNCLOS cannot supersede the sovereignty and sovereign rights of China / Taiwan before the UNCLOS.
There is no joint gas and oil exploration on 10 Billions , only fishery, green abd blue mining. And Wind/Solar between Envision and hope local companies Indonesia.
What is the use of the international law? Is it really DIFFICULT of CHINA TO ABIDE THE RULES? China is the one COMPLICATING THE SITUATION. Accept and RESPECT the RULING,that the PHILIPPINES HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS OF THE WEST PHILIPPINE SEA..
When greediness is in your mind. Might is always right in your head. You seek peace but your action is different from what you say.😂😂
CHONG KUO JIAYOU
The simple solution,is for China to stay out of other countries sovereign territory!!
words usa+who goin take out pipe line+sum thing about turkey!!!! pipe line
Well other countries can claim seas too .
Yes😂. China has the capacity to do so and its on going😂😂😂
This situation is quite absurd. Under international law, specifically the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), the Philippines lacks the legal basis to enact the two new laws in question.
The Philippines submitted an application for an Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) in the South China Sea; however, this application was rejected by the United Nations, resulting in the absence of any recognized EEZ for the Philippines in that region.
Consequently, the Philippines has enacted two laws that are not only unlawful but also stem from unfounded assumptions, contradicting the UN's official stance of not recognizing any Philippine EEZ in the South China Sea.
Huhhh?????????
whatt???
@@ArdiantothehulkIt is a shame for the Philippines government to state the new laws are based on UNCLOS where the UNCLOS never recognized Philippines have a legal EEZ in the South China Sea.
@@terancekwwong7878 What??? Philippines HAVE legal claim. That's why China lose in international arbitrage.
@@Ardiantothehulk Winning the 2016 rulling will lead to UN approval on the EEZ apply from Phillipines.
The fact is UN have rejected the EEZ application mean Phillippines never win anything in 2016 rulling.
Even worst, before the 2016 rulling, Phillpines is said to be "having a disputed EEZ in the South China Sea. According to the rulling, the rejection from UN on the Philippines EEZ application means Phillippines "have no UN recognized EEZ in the South China Sea or UN had prohibited Philippines to have a EEZ in the South China Sea according to 2016 rulling".
China need to respect other nation . They all have right on south China sea. From iran
CIA BOTS ARE REAL BRAINLESS.....😅😊😂LMAO LOSERS 🤣 😂 😆 😅 💀 😭 🤣
china owns nothing there
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West an " Empire of Shameless Lies " !!!
Same as China!! The double standard country
Why china cant annex manila they have china town there ..... ?
Vietnam and the Philippines need to share overlapping resources but not with China. China can share war resources with the USA for sure !!!!!
We should Boycott anything made in China 😢😢😢
go ahead
china clearly claiming it historically accurate, but they can't even pronounce if it is 9 10 or 11 dash lines 😂
there no place for greediness in south east asia ..philppines have citizens also that needs that resources in that place in west phil sea not only china need that perhaps its near our shoreline..stop greediness stop intruding our country water. china is a big country they have enough resources there stop intruding other resources withyour imagenary 11dashline covering all the water in south china sea..
👍👍👍👏👏👏 China must continue to defend their SCS against Philippines and USA illegal intrusion.
😂😂😂
@jeff6554 🤡
Don't worry, we'll 🇺🇸 be there.@@LeeSkJohn-sv8wi
This is a classic propaganda tactic aimed at reversing the narrative.
@@JunBermz the fact is china and Taiwan owns SCS before unclos eez even existed. It's Philippines that is spewing propaganda after robbing China's spratlies in the 70s.
China is developed but has no experience in wars.
😂 search history first then comment..
Ana malindog uy?, huhhhhhh
Befpre bein able 2 make a movv away of ure soil ,,from within the chaos is takin u down
Lol😂 CHINA LOSE IT'S CASE ON THE ARBITRAL TRIBUNAL UNCLOS (INTERNATIONAL LAW) STOP REVERSING THE TRUTH....WHY DON'T U WANT TO FACE THE PHILIPPINES ON INTERNATIONAL COURT HEAD ON!! TO PROVE UR EVIDENCE OF THAT IMAGINATY HISTORICAL CLAIMS THAT'S STUPID!!!😂😂😂
Do you know the meaning of *_"arbitration"_* ??
If anyone of the two don't tango, it means no tango !!🤣
See Pino map in 80’s and compare that to pino map now. U will see how pino is expanding its territory
The arbitrary tribunal is a party formed by a private legal company who rented a spot in the ICC.
It is being used by an opportunistic few westerners to create a dispute by supporting one party against another. There is a few claimants to those areas. Taiwan has a eleven dash line , Vietnam fishes there, Malaysia and Brunei have claims too. However these disputes can be managed locally without the US and the West stirring up the pot with their wooden spoon. This part of the world has been a commercial sea link between China and all the south East Asians countries for thousands of years before the arrival of the colonial west and Imperialistic Japan.
LOL since 2016 and yet haven't gained anything. Why? It's invalid.
USE YR BRAIN....WHEN CHINA RECLAIM PARACEL ISLAND...EVEN USA DID NOT SAY ANYTHING....NOW WANTS TO USED PINOY'S AS PROXY IDXOXT NATIONS....