WOW!!!!!!! I fished two straight days in the Ray Scott as a Co angler on Eufala last year. Never had a bite!!!!! Never sat down unless the boat was gear and we were moving. Never got discouraged. Never got upset when my boater was throwing a shakeyhead on rock piles live scoping spots. The only thing on my mind was “what can I do in this situation to catch a bass?” That’s unreal.
I've been my dad's co-angler for over 15 years and always learn something every single time there's no point in going out fishing and thinking you're not going to learn
Unbelievable… 🤯 I fished that tournament on St. John’s as a Co-Angler. Never in my wildest would I have imagined someone being that rude as a guest on someone’s boat. Respect 👊🏼 for handling that like a true professional. Looking forward to the members only channel. 💯
I fished as a Coangler for years. I had good boaters and some not so good. I have had boaters tell me where to cast after he tried, I had boaters leave my ass away from fishable water. But he is the captain and I’m along for the ride. I have caught so many fish behind my boater. Good boaters far out weigh the bad ones. But I never complained and anything. I just kept slinging my cricket. If that didn’t work I’d try something else. And I did what ever my boater needed me to do. I love the back seat, but I’m sure glad I’m the captain now. I take care of my backseater as best I can but I’m out there to cash a check.
I am a co angler in Indiana. one of the best here And I will catch fish wherever we are and not complain I give you props for holding your tongue awesome job 👏
I fish as a co myself and here is my 2cents, I'm along for the ride the boater has much more invested so if a co don't like it go buy a boat. That's all there is to it suck it up.
As an active co-angler fisherman in the MLF, there was several times I wanted to quit but instead I decided to grind it out. Most of the time, I can’t make it to Day 2. I would love to be in that guy’s position. I am used to run n gun!! Plenty of water to fish. I have caught more fish after my boater and still enjoyed myself!!
I fished 8 years as a co angler, and I realized that the guy in the front is doing his own thing, and it was my responsibility to do mine. He paid a lot more than me to fish the front and if I wanted to fish the front I would pay up. My last year as a Co angler I out fished the front deck the whole season and made the Championship.
I've been fishing in FL for 17 years now. If your lure hits the water in a FL lake, consider it a good cast. The bass here can be just about anywhere. Yes, there can be "better" areas to cast to, but when you have docks and nearly endless vegetation, just getting your lure in the water can get you a bite. This co-angler was a fool.
This is just part of being a co angler. You have to adapt to what the boaters give you. If you can’t then buy a boat, pay the entry and fish from the front deck.
HAW YOU WERE TO NICE I WOULD HAVE TOLD THE TOUR- COMMITTE THAR THIS MAN SHOULD BE BAND FROM THE TOUR- IF THEY DON'T LIKE THAT THEN NO MOERE BACK SEATERS AT ALL. THAT IS BULL SHIT. YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
I was in a bass tournament, and the man operating the trolling motor was nozing me where I couldn't fish and nowhere to cast my line. This is why I got my own boat so I could fish fair and I fished slow.
I have fished as a co-angler for the last 3 years on the BFL, Toyota and Opens. The guy in the back of your boat more than likely acts this way in all aspects of his life. He probably never dealt with real adversity ever in his life and I can only assume he is in his early 20's and feels entitled. I have been blessed with having 99% great boaters, but just like co-anglers there are some very bad boaters out there. I have many a friend who are boaters who will warn me about certain guys. 2 years ago I had a boater who within 2 minutes of getting in the boat tell me that I have the back 180 and he has the front. And read me the riot act about he will not put up with a cast in front of the console. Now he is 32 and I was 50. I was like alright not a problem I will respect that but under no circumstances will you use that tone with me again as I won't let anyone take that tone with me. after the 1st hour he is doing his deal and I am in the back doing mine and they come up busting 60 feet behind the motor. I cast out there and hook up to a 3lbs LM and instead of getting the net he whips the nose of the boat around and bombs a cast as soon as it's in his 180. I netted my own fish and he never hooked up. I just said Karmas a bitch with a smile and he looked at me head down and said yep I deserved that. We got along great the rest of the day and had a great time. respect is earned and that is the major problem now a days is respect is in short supply
Yes, as a noboater, you have to just fish what you have in front of you, just like every other noboater in the tournament. Stay positive, and throw something different. LoL, the “ There’s boaters, and the there’s boaters”comment at the end Cracked me up ! In just the few clips you’ve shown, I seen all kinds places he could have been throwing Something ! Dood, more fishing and less whining, you could have had the 7 lbs you had one day one, this guy actually lucked up he drew You, and not one of us !
WOW !!! Whatever happened to being appreciative to be out fishing and have an opportunity to learn while on someone else’s boat. I mean as a co- angler you know that you don’t always get to cast to those best spots due to conditions and locations. So you adjust! I’ve been a co- angler many times and instead of being a distraction I help by throwing something different to help find the pattern that works best. And I have out fished my partner up front using live target many times! Teamwork makes the dream work. Not being a bitch!!!!
You handled it with the way I would have done. I have fished as co angler for years and I have learned a lot about fishing. I had a boater once and I asked if could watch how he catching his fish. He was doing something that I never seen before and learned something. My moto is for the boater to get his fish first then I will fish.
There is always PLENTY of places to fish as a co-angler. Any fisherman worth their salt, especially pros, will tell you that there are always lots of fish cruising around the main spots. There are always little "satellite" holes around the good holes that hold fish. There are always fish that spook and quickly come back into a hole that's been blown out or already fished that you can catch. As a co-angler, it's supposed to be understood that you're 2nd fiddle to the boater. The boater ultimately makes the decisions, they get first choice of the holes, etc and you have to work around that. That's just how it is. If you don't like it, you have 3 choices... stop fishing, go buy your own $70,000+ boat, fill it with $10,000+ in tackle, pay the insurance on it, pay for the gas every day on it, pay for the registration on it, pay for the maintenance on it, etc, or go get your own sponsors to pay for some of it but that won't happen because you're probably a pain to deal with and not a very good representative of their company.
After looking at his profile and for someone who has fished 3 years as a co- angler with 12 events and only caught 26 fish. Maybe he should think of a better hobby. 😁 Matt keep doing what your doing. Good video.
I plan on trying to fish as a co in the opens this year. I have previously fished as a co in some college series' and two college national championships. For college, we fish as a team, and I still have never once acted like that and complained about it. A check is a bonus and that is all it'll ever be as a co. Now I'm a boater, I understand a lot more. Which is why I know I can learn from other boaters by co-angling the opens.
Matt, I agree with everything you brought up in this video. He was wrong on all aspects. However I do have a question? Why do some boaters think as a co-angler we should be there just to learn? I am 60 years old and have been fishing since before you were born. Now I am not saying I cant learn something, I try to every time I go out on the water. I own 3 boats and still would rather fish as a co-angler in tournaments. For me it takes all the stress out of the day and I can just enjoy fishing. Like you said it's cheaper than a guide service. LOL But please remember not all co-anglers don't know what they are doing.
Good point. But you’re also probably not the guy to whine and complain about what I’m doing. You’ll put your head down and work with the water you’re presented with like any angler should. There are some Horror stories about other cos that I hear. At the chick Toyota I heard a boater saying that his co angler was telling him that he didn’t know Jack about what he’s doing bc he couldn’t find fish on a shad spawn and that was Theo convo the night before the day even started LOLOL. Respect, open mindedness, and a good attitude are the key to being a great co.
Haha! I fished as a coangler on the LBAA and that dude is just a whiny a$$ baby 😂 The ladies are hardcore and we’re like family but if a co dared to say this to a boater dayyyuumm that level of disrespect would be slammed! Any reasonable co would put together how lopsided the entire experience is when it comes to time and money and so YES it is about you and it should be about you. Boats are expensive as hell with payments, insurance, maintenance, getting it to the tournament, gas, money, finding the fish during practice, and on and on. Like you said the coangler‘s show up and go fishing. If he doesn’t like the set up, he can get his own boat or start fishing the kayak tournaments. Solved! 😁 Dude you handled this really well! Good job! You should have called his bluff, and been like alright let’s go because you know he was just being a jerk. 😂
Was a co angler in the 90s redman tour 16 thru my mid 20s and learned to adapt out fished a few of the boaters . Im always looking at it as im bank fishing i have to fish whats there
Wow…..I mean….wooooooow. What a learning experience he could have had as a co-angler. When the co-angler said “I paid money to fish here….” cannot believe the restraint you showed here.
Dude is unbelievable. Acting childish. Just being in a boat to soak in knowledge with ya is already a freaking plus. Man, you handle it professionally. I would have karate Chopped him. Keep up the grind.
I would never throw over my boater's shoulder but if he's retying and the boat drifts and puts that spot to where I'm aloud to throw I'm going to fish it
I always thought you entered as a co angler to learn from the pro, not to win the tourney. It's kind of like paying tuition for college. Taking a check as a co angler is a bonus.
Well that co angler also pays to fish the tournament as well. So they are both fishing separate tournament. Now you respect the boater and pro. But it's not just to pay that kinda money just to learn.
I don't know anything about being a co-angler but I've imagined myself being one. And what I imagine is that I am along for the ride and whatever happens, happens. I'm the Co not the Pro. That guy sucks.
I didn't see you do anything wrong. He had plenty of water to fish. You could have been live scoping in 30 feet of water and he wouldn't have had any targets whatsoever to fish then.
I'm new to tournament fishing and just started fishing BFLs the last 2 years. I've been fortunate to have some awesome co-anglers but I have had 2 so far that made for and uncomfortable day. I never take gas money from my co-anglers unless you are disrespectful and in about 20 BFLs so far I've only taken money 2x. Both were at regionals where the coangler was fishing in front of me the majority of the day. But all in all I've met some cool guys
Riiiight... it's completely taken away the skill that people have used to catch monster bags for literally decades... it's called knowing how to fish. You can take any pro and take away their lives livescope and give it to a mediocre fisherman and the pro is still going to catch more and bigger fish more times than not. Why? Because they've learned the finer points of fishing...
@@tysonbrown518 absolute facts. Has it made stars out of people? Yes. If they banned it would SOME guys become irrelevant? Also yes. Shallow water guys have to adjust their game a bit to compete but truly can still compete
Kudos to you for not throwing him off YOUR boat, right into the water. I bet he's single and had said before "i got mine, you should've tried harder to get yours, woman". Brother you should teach anger management techniques, that was phenomenal.
Jesus. Why even enter the tournament? I just don't get it. A bad day out on the water beats a good day in the office. Every time. I have had tons of bad fishing days, but those days weren't bad days in the slightest. Also, sounds like this guy doesn't know what a co-angler is. lol. You are there to fish off the back of someone's boat. You know what you signed up for. It is different fishing for sure, but if you are good you adapt and catch what you can. And it is very hard. Lots of blanks come out of the co-anglers, but that's just how it is. You are there to learn and spend the day fishing. It is not your job to set him up. You handled this beautifully.
Im confused. As a former co you take the opportunity you are given! You learn from the boater as much as you can. However, dude is watching you fish the wall, pitch a jig to the dock poles. Dont just sit down! You fucking adapt and keep pushing! Plain and simple!
Ive fished 100s of pro ams. BFLs, Strens, Bass, etc... Which means I have had 100s of Co Anglers in which a lot of them have become good friends. I can count on one finger the amount of idiots I drew. Sure I had some inexperienced anglers, but most of them were just asking a lot of questions picking my brain. Which is fine. I actually spill the beans when they ask. But there was this one guy at the Red River that I will never forget. I had a Basscat Cougar with a 250 optimax. This was back in 2005. My boat would run close to 80. Which was fast back then. Well, I come out of the lock, and travel about 10 miles to my spot. When we get there, he informs me his cigarettes flew out which he had in his front shirt pocket. Of course I say Im sorry but we were nowhere near any store. I honestly would have taken him to a store had we been close to one. But by the time 11am rolled around, he was having severe withdrawals and literally yelling at me to take him to get cigarettes. He threatened me, he told me he would not sign the weigh in slip, etc... I apologized but told him we were not going back early. I actually had a good sack of fish. He literally laid down in the back of the boat the rest of the day . He finally shut up about it. But he did keep his promise. He did not sign my weigh in slip. I told the tournament director what happened right in front of him. The tournament director looked at him and said is this the case. He admitted that it was and said I was an asshole for not getting him some cigarettes. The director was nice to him and told him he would take care of it. After the guy walked off the director told me jokingly, if your co angler smokes, always bring an extra pack of cigs from now on. He went and talked to a few different competitors and came back and said my weight would count. Never heard a peep since. Im sure everybody that reads this has had a day like that. Its just inevitable.
Lol. Theres bad boaters to. Rich guys. Sometimes you got to give em a crankbait so they can get a limit. Sometimes they say theres an invisible line Dont cross it ,dont cast over it, then they lose a fish and i say mmmmm i coulda netted him if that invisible line hadnt been in my way. Lol. Personal experience here. I think most non boaters own their own boats. Some of em are better then some of the boaters. Go's both ways. Just gotta keep on fishin! Pray you get a good partner. No matter which side your on. Shoulda asked him if he just started his period when he said he wanted to go home.!
As a co angler compared to some of the situations I been in rather be around the stuff you were instead of 60 ft of water watching a guy live scope. My biggest question did he give you gas money 😅
Seems like there should be some way to keep track of these guys and ban them. That would have ruined my day, I probably would have dropped him off just to be done with him
Man it sucks that he decided to treat you that way. Some guys are more selfish than others, as a Co-Angler I didn't' see a single situation where he had no options or fishable water. There's a way to learn AND compete as A Co but you have to establish that relationship with the boater and each guy has to respect the other.
You definitely handled that very well. I have had great co's so far but definitely dreading the day i get someone like that. Nice finish hopefully you qualified for regionals.
I've been on both sides but these boater /co events if you're a boater and your whole day is livescoping then why have co's? If your putting your co in the back in nothing but open water or turning all your graphs off why do these style events?
If everyone here is in agreement that you handled that well and that’s to be expected, I definitely wouldn’t be cut out to be a co-angler. Lol. Never did any competition bass fishing. Placed well and not so well in catfishing tournaments. But I don’t know anything about the arrangement that boaters and co-anglers have. Do co-anglers pay entry?
My question is does the pro angler have the rights to deny the co angler? For instance you drawn this guy again, can you refuse him being on your boat?
I get he has to deal with the situation and should not want to go home. My issue with boaters is the ones who think they are pros just bc they have a boat and fish a BFL (LOL) and finish 100th. A high percentage of COs have boats and will probably out fish the "PRO" A perfect way to get COs out of your boat is move up to a circuit that is legit PRO only...while your in a BFL (or a legend in your own mind) help a dude out....what goes around comes around...ALWAYS
I didn’t do anything to handicap him at all. The water we were fishing before 11 wasn’t IDEAL, but there was definitely fishable water and I caught fish off of the dock pylons in practice.
What the hell did he want? Pick up a rod and start casting dude!!! Yeah, as long as there is water around you, you can cast and fish. What the hell did he want for the boater to give him his fish?
It's very simple. Sounds like he's a youngin. So basically, he didn't get his way and needed his safe space. You were far cooler than I ever would have been.
I would never sit in the back of a boat at the end of the day if your co angler paid you gas then put him on fish you better be glad I’m not in the boat because most time I will figure the fish out in the front or the back
Its co-anglers like that that gives good co-anglers like me a bad name i hate people who want to bitch that guy was unreal, sorry u had to deal with that guy bro
dude that is crazy I've had some real jack legs before but damn that guy is a real champ I even had a guy offer me 10th place check money to sell him my fish probably should have taken it I ended up 15th but holy hell you did handle it as good as humanly possible
If you are a Co Angler and have the mentality of the one in the back of this boat, ive got some great advice for you on how to fix this.... BUY YOUR OWN DAMN BOAT
Man some of these co’s just dont get it sorry you went through that man, good job keeping your composure… cant wait till all trails follow suit and get rid of co’s… I have had some great co’s but I did get a bad one this yr and it completely spun me out
I'll be honest when I say I don't think you have a lot to be mad about. The co is obviously an idiot imo but that's besides the point. Some co's suck. Some boaters suck. I saw plenty of water I could fish as a co in your video. That being said, I'd never fish in a way that my co just couldn't fish. I don't think that's the case here, necessarily. I've never fished as a co, mostly for that reason. I just wouldn't do it to a co. Even if all my fish were in 1 ft of water on the right side and it left my co with nothing to fish, I'd absolutely find some new water that allowed them to fish also. Even if it's just an hour or whatever.
Well that’s my case. From 11:30-3 we fished shallow creek docks. Brush on the banks, shallow water usually out in the middle. Plenty of opportunities for half the day.
@mattwfishing seems fair to me. I think some guys just get frustrated. He probably would've gotten frustrated in open water if he wasn't catching anything and then he'd be bitching about something else.
WOW!!!!!!!
I fished two straight days in the Ray Scott as a Co angler on Eufala last year. Never had a bite!!!!! Never sat down unless the boat was gear and we were moving. Never got discouraged. Never got upset when my boater was throwing a shakeyhead on rock piles live scoping spots. The only thing on my mind was “what can I do in this situation to catch a bass?” That’s unreal.
I believe this situation will be more common with forward facing sonar in the mix. Thanks for sharing
Sounds like he needs to get his own boat
You were very professional and way nicer than i would have been
I've been my dad's co-angler for over 15 years and always learn something every single time there's no point in going out fishing and thinking you're not going to learn
Unbelievable… 🤯
I fished that tournament on St. John’s as a Co-Angler. Never in my wildest would I have imagined someone being that rude as a guest on someone’s boat. Respect 👊🏼 for handling that like a true professional. Looking forward to the members only channel. 💯
he acted as tho he was owed something by someone. Couldnt be further from the truth
I fished as a Coangler for years. I had good boaters and some not so good. I have had boaters tell me where to cast after he tried, I had boaters leave my ass away from fishable water. But he is the captain and I’m along for the ride. I have caught so many fish behind my boater. Good boaters far out weigh the bad ones. But I never complained and anything. I just kept slinging my cricket. If that didn’t work I’d try something else. And I did what ever my boater needed me to do. I love the back seat, but I’m sure glad I’m the captain now. I take care of my backseater as best I can but I’m out there to cash a check.
I've had a boater pull off a spot after I caught 3.5lb largie
I’ve never been a co angler but honestly it sounds fun having to adapt to other fisherman’s styles and strengths .
I am a co angler in Indiana. one of the best here And I will catch fish wherever we are and not complain I give you props for holding your tongue awesome job 👏
I fish as a co myself and here is my 2cents, I'm along for the ride the boater has much more invested so if a co don't like it go buy a boat. That's all there is to it suck it up.
As an active co-angler fisherman in the MLF, there was several times I wanted to quit but instead I decided to grind it out. Most of the time, I can’t make it to Day 2. I would love to be in that guy’s position. I am used to run n gun!! Plenty of water to fish. I have caught more fish after my boater and still enjoyed myself!!
I'd be happy to just be in the boat fishing!
Go pay 475.00 for entry plus trip expense and you can…
I fished 8 years as a co angler, and I realized that the guy in the front is doing his own thing, and it was my responsibility to do mine. He paid a lot more than me to fish the front and if I wanted to fish the front I would pay up. My last year as a Co angler I out fished the front deck the whole season and made the Championship.
I'm a boater and a co angler depending on the situation, and that dude is completely ungrateful and disrespectful.
I've been fishing in FL for 17 years now. If your lure hits the water in a FL lake, consider it a good cast. The bass here can be just about anywhere. Yes, there can be "better" areas to cast to, but when you have docks and nearly endless vegetation, just getting your lure in the water can get you a bite. This co-angler was a fool.
It’s flat out amazing what happens when you have your line in the water.
This is just part of being a co angler. You have to adapt to what the boaters give you. If you can’t then buy a boat, pay the entry and fish from the front deck.
HAW YOU WERE TO NICE I WOULD HAVE TOLD THE TOUR- COMMITTE THAR THIS MAN SHOULD BE BAND FROM THE TOUR- IF THEY DON'T LIKE THAT THEN NO MOERE BACK SEATERS AT ALL. THAT IS BULL SHIT. YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
You handled it like a pro,go job Matt
I was in a bass tournament, and the man operating the trolling motor was nozing me where I couldn't fish and nowhere to cast my line. This is why I got my own boat so I could fish fair and I fished slow.
I have fished as a co-angler for the last 3 years on the BFL, Toyota and Opens. The guy in the back of your boat more than likely acts this way in all aspects of his life. He probably never dealt with real adversity ever in his life and I can only assume he is in his early 20's and feels entitled. I have been blessed with having 99% great boaters, but just like co-anglers there are some very bad boaters out there. I have many a friend who are boaters who will warn me about certain guys. 2 years ago I had a boater who within 2 minutes of getting in the boat tell me that I have the back 180 and he has the front. And read me the riot act about he will not put up with a cast in front of the console. Now he is 32 and I was 50. I was like alright not a problem I will respect that but under no circumstances will you use that tone with me again as I won't let anyone take that tone with me. after the 1st hour he is doing his deal and I am in the back doing mine and they come up busting 60 feet behind the motor. I cast out there and hook up to a 3lbs LM and instead of getting the net he whips the nose of the boat around and bombs a cast as soon as it's in his 180. I netted my own fish and he never hooked up. I just said Karmas a bitch with a smile and he looked at me head down and said yep I deserved that. We got along great the rest of the day and had a great time. respect is earned and that is the major problem now a days is respect is in short supply
That’s a great story haha love it. No I think he was in his 50’s. Well beyond 20
Yes, as a noboater, you have to just fish what you have in front of you, just like every other noboater in the tournament. Stay positive, and throw something different. LoL, the “ There’s boaters, and the there’s boaters”comment at the end Cracked me up ! In just the few clips you’ve shown, I seen all kinds places he could have been throwing Something ! Dood, more fishing and less whining, you could have had the 7 lbs you had one day one, this guy actually lucked up he drew You, and not one of us !
WOW !!! Whatever happened to being appreciative to be out fishing and have an opportunity to learn while on someone else’s boat. I mean as a co- angler you know that you don’t always get to cast to those best spots due to conditions and locations. So you adjust!
I’ve been a co- angler many times and instead of being a distraction I help by throwing something different to help find the pattern that works best. And I have out fished my partner up front using live target many times! Teamwork makes the dream work. Not being a bitch!!!!
You handled it with the way I would have done. I have fished as co angler for years and I have learned a lot about fishing. I had a boater once and I asked if could watch how he catching his fish. He was doing something that I never seen before and learned something. My moto is for the boater to get his fish first then I will fish.
There is always PLENTY of places to fish as a co-angler. Any fisherman worth their salt, especially pros, will tell you that there are always lots of fish cruising around the main spots. There are always little "satellite" holes around the good holes that hold fish. There are always fish that spook and quickly come back into a hole that's been blown out or already fished that you can catch. As a co-angler, it's supposed to be understood that you're 2nd fiddle to the boater. The boater ultimately makes the decisions, they get first choice of the holes, etc and you have to work around that. That's just how it is. If you don't like it, you have 3 choices... stop fishing, go buy your own $70,000+ boat, fill it with $10,000+ in tackle, pay the insurance on it, pay for the gas every day on it, pay for the registration on it, pay for the maintenance on it, etc, or go get your own sponsors to pay for some of it but that won't happen because you're probably a pain to deal with and not a very good representative of their company.
Exactly! Well put
Matt, you handled that better than I would have.
After looking at his profile and for someone who has fished 3 years as a co- angler with 12 events and only caught 26 fish. Maybe he should think of a better hobby. 😁
Matt keep doing what your doing. Good video.
Lmao
I plan on trying to fish as a co in the opens this year. I have previously fished as a co in some college series' and two college national championships. For college, we fish as a team, and I still have never once acted like that and complained about it. A check is a bonus and that is all it'll ever be as a co. Now I'm a boater, I understand a lot more. Which is why I know I can learn from other boaters by co-angling the opens.
I would have let him out on one of those docks and told him to call an Uber.
That guy (the co-angler) needs to take a course on proper etiquette for co-anglers. My blood was boiling just listening to that jerk.
Man I love to fish and be with a very skilled guy learn more and fish
First time seeing your site. learned more about you and how you work with your co angler. From both a boater and co angler point of view.
Don’t know if 1K subscribers is quite enough for a members only channel. Slow and steady wins the race.
Matt, I agree with everything you brought up in this video. He was wrong on all aspects. However I do have a question? Why do some boaters think as a co-angler we should be there just to learn? I am 60 years old and have been fishing since before you were born. Now I am not saying I cant learn something, I try to every time I go out on the water. I own 3 boats and still would rather fish as a co-angler in tournaments. For me it takes all the stress out of the day and I can just enjoy fishing. Like you said it's cheaper than a guide service. LOL But please remember not all co-anglers don't know what they are doing.
Good point. But you’re also probably not the guy to whine and complain about what I’m doing. You’ll put your head down and work with the water you’re presented with like any angler should. There are some Horror stories about other cos that I hear. At the chick Toyota I heard a boater saying that his co angler was telling him that he didn’t know Jack about what he’s doing bc he couldn’t find fish on a shad spawn and that was Theo convo the night before the day even started LOLOL. Respect, open mindedness, and a good attitude are the key to being a great co.
Haha! I fished as a coangler on the LBAA and that dude is just a whiny a$$ baby 😂 The ladies are hardcore and we’re like family but if a co dared to say this to a boater dayyyuumm that level of disrespect would be slammed! Any reasonable co would put together how lopsided the entire experience is when it comes to time and money and so YES it is about you and it should be about you. Boats are expensive as hell with payments, insurance, maintenance, getting it to the tournament, gas, money, finding the fish during practice, and on and on. Like you said the coangler‘s show up and go fishing. If he doesn’t like the set up, he can get his own boat or start fishing the kayak tournaments. Solved! 😁 Dude you handled this really well! Good job! You should have called his bluff, and been like alright let’s go because you know he was just being a jerk. 😂
I fished Co in BFL for several years. I'd absolutely love to have a boater draw fish this way!!!
Was a co angler in the 90s redman tour 16 thru my mid 20s and learned to adapt out fished a few of the boaters . Im always looking at it as im bank fishing i have to fish whats there
Wow…..I mean….wooooooow. What a learning experience he could have had as a co-angler. When the co-angler said “I paid money to fish here….” cannot believe the restraint you showed here.
Dude is unbelievable. Acting childish. Just being in a boat to soak in knowledge with ya is already a freaking plus. Man, you handle it professionally. I would have karate Chopped him. Keep up the grind.
This Co is what makes all us co-anglers look bad .
I think you should've called the tournament director and asked if you could've fished alone. He can walk from where you're at.
I would never throw over my boater's shoulder but if he's retying and the boat drifts and puts that spot to where I'm aloud to throw I'm going to fish it
I always thought you entered as a co angler to learn from the pro, not to win the tourney. It's kind of like paying tuition for college. Taking a check as a co angler is a bonus.
Well that co angler also pays to fish the tournament as well. So they are both fishing separate tournament. Now you respect the boater and pro. But it's not just to pay that kinda money just to learn.
@@marksears558 the boater has at least 10 times invested in tournament than co angler. Think about that.
@@pappybill791 Yeah and the last pro am tourney I went to, the amateur had a 50,000K payout along with a new phoenix bass boat. Think about that.
I don't know anything about being a co-angler but I've imagined myself being one. And what I imagine is that I am along for the ride and whatever happens, happens. I'm the Co not the Pro. That guy sucks.
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I didn't see you do anything wrong. He had plenty of water to fish. You could have been live scoping in 30 feet of water and he wouldn't have had any targets whatsoever to fish then.
I'm new to tournament fishing and just started fishing BFLs the last 2 years. I've been fortunate to have some awesome co-anglers but I have had 2 so far that made for and uncomfortable day. I never take gas money from my co-anglers unless you are disrespectful and in about 20 BFLs so far I've only taken money 2x. Both were at regionals where the coangler was fishing in front of me the majority of the day. But all in all I've met some cool guys
I would have dialed up the FFS all day long ..first time a co was casting out in front of me.
Livescope has screwed the co-Anglers!! Let’s call it what is is guys!!
Random. Did you even watch the video?
Riiiight... it's completely taken away the skill that people have used to catch monster bags for literally decades... it's called knowing how to fish. You can take any pro and take away their lives livescope and give it to a mediocre fisherman and the pro is still going to catch more and bigger fish more times than not. Why? Because they've learned the finer points of fishing...
@@tysonbrown518 absolute facts. Has it made stars out of people? Yes. If they banned it would SOME guys become irrelevant? Also yes. Shallow water guys have to adjust their game a bit to compete but truly can still compete
Kudos to you for not throwing him off YOUR boat, right into the water. I bet he's single and had said before "i got mine, you should've tried harder to get yours, woman". Brother you should teach anger management techniques, that was phenomenal.
Are there standard rules for co-anglers or does each tournament set the rules?
Each organization has a little diff rules.
“Boaters will have complete control of boat operation and waters to be fished” MLF BFL rule
bro its Florida, its 360 fishing, that guy is unbelievable.
Oh no that dude got in that tournament but I would be there I'll be your positivity brother
Jesus. Why even enter the tournament? I just don't get it. A bad day out on the water beats a good day in the office. Every time. I have had tons of bad fishing days, but those days weren't bad days in the slightest. Also, sounds like this guy doesn't know what a co-angler is. lol. You are there to fish off the back of someone's boat. You know what you signed up for. It is different fishing for sure, but if you are good you adapt and catch what you can. And it is very hard. Lots of blanks come out of the co-anglers, but that's just how it is. You are there to learn and spend the day fishing. It is not your job to set him up. You handled this beautifully.
Im confused. As a former co you take the opportunity you are given! You learn from the boater as much as you can. However, dude is watching you fish the wall, pitch a jig to the dock poles. Dont just sit down! You fucking adapt and keep pushing! Plain and simple!
There's a dock right there... if he just shut up for a minute I might let him step on to it instead of swim for it, choice is his.
Ive fished 100s of pro ams. BFLs, Strens, Bass, etc... Which means I have had 100s of Co Anglers in which a lot of them have become good friends. I can count on one finger the amount of idiots I drew. Sure I had some inexperienced anglers, but most of them were just asking a lot of questions picking my brain. Which is fine. I actually spill the beans when they ask. But there was this one guy at the Red River that I will never forget. I had a Basscat Cougar with a 250 optimax. This was back in 2005. My boat would run close to 80. Which was fast back then. Well, I come out of the lock, and travel about 10 miles to my spot. When we get there, he informs me his cigarettes flew out which he had in his front shirt pocket. Of course I say Im sorry but we were nowhere near any store. I honestly would have taken him to a store had we been close to one. But by the time 11am rolled around, he was having severe withdrawals and literally yelling at me to take him to get cigarettes. He threatened me, he told me he would not sign the weigh in slip, etc... I apologized but told him we were not going back early. I actually had a good sack of fish. He literally laid down in the back of the boat the rest of the day . He finally shut up about it. But he did keep his promise. He did not sign my weigh in slip. I told the tournament director what happened right in front of him. The tournament director looked at him and said is this the case. He admitted that it was and said I was an asshole for not getting him some cigarettes. The director was nice to him and told him he would take care of it. After the guy walked off the director told me jokingly, if your co angler smokes, always bring an extra pack of cigs from now on. He went and talked to a few different competitors and came back and said my weight would count. Never heard a peep since. Im sure everybody that reads this has had a day like that. Its just inevitable.
It almost would have been worth it to take him back to the dock knowing what you know now.
Lol. Theres bad boaters to. Rich guys. Sometimes you got to give em a crankbait so they can get a limit. Sometimes they say theres an invisible line
Dont cross it ,dont cast over it, then they lose a fish and i say mmmmm i coulda netted him if that invisible line hadnt been in my way. Lol. Personal experience here. I think most non boaters own their own boats. Some of em are better then some of the boaters.
Go's both ways.
Just gotta keep on fishin!
Pray you get a good partner.
No matter which side your on.
Shoulda asked him if he just started his period when he said he wanted to go home.!
As a co angler compared to some of the situations I been in rather be around the stuff you were instead of 60 ft of water watching a guy live scope. My biggest question did he give you gas money 😅
There was some tension in that boat towards the end of the day 😂
If a co-Angler complains about being in somebody else’s boat. I think that Co angler should get his own boat.🤷🏻♂️
It's situational. Don't be stupid
@@cerebraltackle💯💯
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Buy your own boat and don’t be an amateur troll !😂😂 got ya
I've fished 5 co- angler events and I would have traded all those experiences for having all the dock action to fish!!!!!
Seems like there should be some way to keep track of these guys and ban them. That would have ruined my day, I probably would have dropped him off just to be done with him
You’re a lot nicer than I would have been.
Your boat. Your rules. 😂 fishing is stressful in tournaments but to just give up like that is just pitiful.
You got that right!
Man it sucks that he decided to treat you that way. Some guys are more selfish than others, as a Co-Angler I didn't' see a single situation where he had no options or fishable water. There's a way to learn AND compete as A Co but you have to establish that relationship with the boater and each guy has to respect the other.
And I gave nothing but respect start to finish.
I think it’s got something to do with French
Canada
He sounds Canadian.
No Canadian would ever want to go home. we fish in the worst conditions for the entire day at 40 below through a hole in the ice and don't complain
That had me shaking
If there was fish on the walls there was fish under the docks!! I would of been skippinh a wacky rig all over that shit!!
Hahaha what a pity party 😂😂😂😂 homie could have jumped out anytime
Man I commented before I watch your video dude I'm sorry this guy is a crying sob
dude i couldnt imagine being paired with this clown id prob throw him out of the boat, you handled it better than i prob wouldve
You definitely handled that very well. I have had great co's so far but definitely dreading the day i get someone like that. Nice finish hopefully you qualified for regionals.
I hope so too!
You got nerves of steel lol. No doubt, i would have bugged right out , guess thats why i fish alone and have zero urge to tournament fish with randos.
Next year ABA starts the Professional League. Fish solo the only problems in your boat will be self inflicted.
Have him come be a co angler at lake of the ozarks, we have 71,387 floating docks . With only 1ft of water to skip under..
I've been on both sides but these boater /co events if you're a boater and your whole day is livescoping then why have co's? If your putting your co in the back in nothing but open water or turning all your graphs off why do these style events?
Ain’t many events where you get the luxury of not having a coangler
If everyone here is in agreement that you handled that well and that’s to be expected, I definitely wouldn’t be cut out to be a co-angler. Lol. Never did any competition bass fishing. Placed well and not so well in catfishing tournaments. But I don’t know anything about the arrangement that boaters and co-anglers have. Do co-anglers pay entry?
They do
Been fishing since redman series and have had a lot of coanglers and this guy would have gotten a mouth thrashing from me
Co-angler crying about wanting to go home; all he had to do was jump. No one stopping him from going home to mommy!
you being pissed also takes you off your game too.dude was a cry baby!!
He could have been burning a crankbait in that situation
My question is does the pro angler have the rights to deny the co angler? For instance you drawn this guy again, can you refuse him being on your boat?
I get he has to deal with the situation and should not want to go home. My issue with boaters is the ones who think they are pros just bc they have a boat and fish a BFL (LOL) and finish 100th. A high percentage of COs have boats and will probably out fish the "PRO" A perfect way to get COs out of your boat is move up to a circuit that is legit PRO only...while your in a BFL (or a legend in your own mind) help a dude out....what goes around comes around...ALWAYS
I didn’t do anything to handicap him at all. The water we were fishing before 11 wasn’t IDEAL, but there was definitely fishable water and I caught fish off of the dock pylons in practice.
Can you say "moodswing"?
You just need to start keeping some cheese in your boat.
What the hell did he want? Pick up a rod and start casting dude!!! Yeah, as long as there is water around you, you can cast and fish. What the hell did he want for the boater to give him his fish?
It's very simple. Sounds like he's a youngin. So basically, he didn't get his way and needed his safe space. You were far cooler than I ever would have been.
He was minimal 45 yrs old
I was 22 in points on the Co side and couldn’t get in . Guys like this just piss me off!
I would never sit in the back of a boat at the end of the day if your co angler paid you gas then put him on fish you better be glad I’m not in the boat because most time I will figure the fish out in the front or the back
Its co-anglers like that that gives good co-anglers like me a bad name i hate people who want to bitch that guy was unreal, sorry u had to deal with that guy bro
dude that is crazy I've had some real jack legs before but damn that guy is a real champ I even had a guy offer me 10th place check money to sell him my fish probably should have taken it I ended up 15th but holy hell you did handle it as good as humanly possible
Oh man 😂 that’s def illegal never take another dudes fish haha.
But yeah I have a pretty good way of handling things I feel like.
If you are a Co Angler and have the mentality of the one in the back of this boat, ive got some great advice for you on how to fix this.... BUY YOUR OWN DAMN BOAT
If your as good as you think you could move up to an actual pro only event and get the co out of your boat...JS
I just watched Randy Blaukets worst Co angler story yesterday! 😂
Man some of these co’s just dont get it sorry you went through that man, good job keeping your composure… cant wait till all trails follow suit and get rid of co’s… I have had some great co’s but I did get a bad one this yr and it completely spun me out
I want juice juice
😂😂😂😂
I'll be honest when I say I don't think you have a lot to be mad about. The co is obviously an idiot imo but that's besides the point. Some co's suck. Some boaters suck. I saw plenty of water I could fish as a co in your video.
That being said, I'd never fish in a way that my co just couldn't fish. I don't think that's the case here, necessarily. I've never fished as a co, mostly for that reason. I just wouldn't do it to a co. Even if all my fish were in 1 ft of water on the right side and it left my co with nothing to fish, I'd absolutely find some new water that allowed them to fish also. Even if it's just an hour or whatever.
Well that’s my case. From 11:30-3 we fished shallow creek docks. Brush on the banks, shallow water usually out in the middle. Plenty of opportunities for half the day.
@mattwfishing seems fair to me. I think some guys just get frustrated. He probably would've gotten frustrated in open water if he wasn't catching anything and then he'd be bitching about something else.
That Co-Anger needs to find a new hobby. He doesn't have what it takes to be a tounament Angler.
I was once called an "A-hole" buy a co- Angler.
I made the run and dropped him off at the ramp for my own sanity