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Sort of. This isn't a VA website misleading people issue, it's a definitions issue. We're looking at a "flight training" tab on the VA website, the colleges that people are looking to attend are NOT a "flight training" place. Two different things. The website is referring to using GI Bill benefits specifically at a flight training place, not a college. I'm not sure why people are saying it needs to be 141... You CAN do Part 61 (I've done it, PPL to CFII all at Part 61). Call the schools VRO (Veteran Resource Office), they will know, they deal with flight fees and aviation students all the time. Ignore WEAMS, it's focused on "flight training" (as previously mentioned) and does not include colleges that take VA money for their flight fees. Find a college with an aviation program and call the VRO. Schools losing flight program VA funding is typically due to the programs having too high a percentage of veteran students. If the percentage goes over 85% veterans, the VA pulls funding for that program. It's called the 85/15 rule. This has happened to schools multiple times when too many veterans are saturating a program. If you hear about colleges losing VA funding for a program, this is most likely why.

Lot's of questions about how this works... The school's handling of the fees is what matters. There's no reason to fund parts of the training yourself if you don't want to. It's all college dependent. If the school has flight fees under their normal school fees the VA will pay for the "fees". The VA will pay for all public school fees associated with a degree giving program, either Part 61 or part 141, the part doesn't matter. The easiest way to do this for free is going to a college that offers aviation and also with a college that has funds allocated in such a way that the VA will pay. A school that says "The VA won't pay for XYZ course" is ignorant. That's a school allocation of funds/fees problem, not a VA problem. If you don't want to go to college, then you'll need to pay for some stuff yourself. Otherwise, find a college that works with the fees and get everything for free while you can.

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Well said. Liberty is a crap shoot. Veterans should stay away even if they do end up getting reapproved.

GI Bill paid for my PPL at Sinclair college in Dayton. Working on commercial now, it totally can be done.

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That's the way to fly.

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After using GI bill for ppl and then dropping out to fast track flight training and a vocational school can I use my GI bill for the vocational school too or is it void since I dropped out of the college after getting my ppl?

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can i get my ppl out if pocket then use gi bill for the rest up to comercial?

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So you use the GI bill and start with part 141 school and after successfully getting your private license you switch to a part 61 school to continue your training using VRE am I understanding you correctly?

First of all, huge thanks for the videos. You’re the only one explaining all this. What I’m not understanding is why do you recommend switching from the post 9/11 after the ppl and not using that all the way through the degree? I plan on getting that 10% for tnitus (former navy aircraft electrician so should be easy), just haven’t looked into all that yet. Never heard of the VRE until this.

So basically if I don’t want to get a degree I need to get my ppl and pay for it myself. Then use my go bill to go to a 141 school

Are you able to get your commercial pilot license with a VA disability rating?

Please review 14 CFR 91.117 sir. 😅

Shit, that’s hauling ass for a J-3!! 😂🤣

hi, great content. also recently got out of the army. was using my gi bill for another major and wanted to switch over. my instructor told me to apply for vrne asap. well I did and days later got my first appointment and my councellor said I qualify and chatted a little bit about pilot training. she said its going to be hard because her superior will go through with fine tooth comb. well now i found your video and realize i put the car before the horse. I am already in the process of getting my class 1 physical. I am at the point of doing homework of schools etc. any further help is greatly appreciated.

I’ll ride a bike 130mph but I won’t get in a plane lol.

Wouldn’t mind having one, but damn sure not paying the $7K they want for one. Absolutely retarded. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Does the GI Bill / VRE cover the full 250 minimum hours for cpl? Or does it tap out at 12k?

Does it have to be a bachelors or can it be an associate’s

I asked Liberty University but to start the program they are asking for my PPL and them start. 😢

Thank you for your service!

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I’m active duty and trying to start my PPL. I don’t want to wait until I get out to go to a Part 141 school full-time. If get my PPL before I get out, I’ll have a head star and I’ll use my GI bill for the rest of my training. Do you know of any way I can cut costs since I’ll be paying out of pocket?

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I'm looking at WEAMS now and am wondering if the flight school has to be part of an actual university for VRE, and not just a regular flight academy.

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Thank you for running through the WEAMS website and talking it through!

Fantastic info brother, I’m EASing from the marines soon and I’ve been searching the last couple months trying to formulate a plan. Would’ve never known about Weams otherwise

Im about to retire with 20 years in. I already have my degree via TA, and want to use my GI bill for private pilot. I was always told the GI bill would only cover upgrades to the license after already having a PPL. If I understand you correctly, I have to find a college that offers a PPL as part of their curriculum? Does the flying cost extra or is it part of the tuition? I dont want to earn another degree .. Just wanna fly.

I used the G.I. Bill to get my commercial, CFI, CFII,

Hey Brother, It has been my dream to get my license and possibly even do this as a career. BUT! I can not find a collage around Virginia that says they include privet pilots license, some programs say they do offer it but I have to pay for it myself, everyone that I have called has told me so far that I have to pay for that on my own. HOW do I find a collage that will let you do what you have done with the GI Bill? I am determined and want to do this.

When using VR&E, do you get the BAH rate or the subsistence allowance (~$800)?