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Thanks for the comment and glad you enjoyed it. Your right about the replacement houses already being demolished and I bet the latest replacements will be gone in another 50 years while the old terrace houses that survived the clearance are still going strong.

Good chippy next to it.

To a large extent you are correct, however many of the houses that were built to replace the slums have themselves now been demolished in as little as thirty years while some of the "slums that survived are still going strong and are desirable. I myself lived in a house that didn't have an inside toilet until 1983 but what I remember more than the cold nights with no central heating was the sense of community. I don't know how you can quantify a sense of community but when AI eventually comes up with the answer it will be too expensive 😄

@@bertdingle Don't get me wrong, they did plenty of awful hosing projects. Places like Hulme and those Legoland type blocks of flats and tower blocks they threw up all over the city were badly thought out and many quickly descended into slums. But there are also large parts of the city that were built up that are going strong and desirable areas to live. Like I said, overall the slum clearances was a good thing and yes there were mistakes made. This is a local council in the UK we're talking about. There isn't a project in the world they couldn't manage to screw up.

Very true.

I used to go in the early 80's with my brothers who had an allotment round the back and was part of the racing pigeon club there. The Angle and cotton tree were my locals but usually went to the vale. At the time the Nelson was famous or infamous for diluting the water :) .Meeting a lass from Stockport back then would have been considered punching above a Gorton lads weight :). Glad you enjoyed the video.

Do you think the gravestone was moved at the same time the cottages were demolished?

I’ve just discussed this with my sister and we think it was later, well after the demolition. Both of us remember playing in the area as children after the houses were demolished - we called it Betts’s Farm - where the stone now lies and it not being there then. And our recollection of the move is that we were older by that stage. They did do some landscaping of the area later on - that’s when all the trees on the (then) grassy area at the bottom of the Brow were planted. Perhaps it was then. For context, I remember being an older child/teenager at that point and hearing my dad complaining that when the trees grew they would interfere with his TV aerial!

@@LisaLacourarie Typical Dad worried he won't be able to see the pools results on Grandstand 😂

Are you sure it was moved? The news paper cutting I have is from 1965 and it was over grown then. I first discovered it in the late seventies and it was over grown then also but I do have a vague recollection that there was another grave further up that was built up around a foot high with a stone on top but when I went back many years later I couldn't fined it so presumed I had imagined it. Maybe there are two?

@@bertdingle Yes - certain. It was moved after the demolition of the houses which must have been in the early 1970s. I remember clearly seeing it/reading the inscription in the garden of the house at the top of the Brow. Students lived in the house and we children used to knock and ask if we could pick flowers in the garden! Interesting to hear that you have found evidence of the oak coffin as that was a story I heard often as a child. There was a forsythia bush on the boundary of the garden near Spurley Hey gates which survived for years after the demolition - might still be there if you go looking for the original grave site. I also remember clearly the incident with the fork lift truck - the driver had a near miss and was totally spooked out believing that the accident was down to the fact that he was disturbing a grave. My recollection though is that the new site was at the top of the Brow on the right hand side towards Old Hall Drive and not opposite the house with the 1792 plaque. Maybe it was moved again at some point? That whole area was a playground to the local Far Lane kids at the time and we knew every inch of it - to my knowledge, there wasn’t another grave around there, although of course there is Brookfield graveyard just at the back of the row of houses.

@@LisaLacourarie Very interesting. I'll see what I can find out. I don't suppose you remember a bus parked on Far Lane that was converted into a Human Cannon ball Cannon do you. would have been around 1980?

Hi again - update! I’ve just been talking to my sister who confirmed that she remembers the stone being moved to the area opposite the cottage with the plaque as well so sounds like I was mistaken on that. Sorry. Re the bus - yes, I know about that as well. It belonged to a guy called Michael who lived with his wife, Sally, on Milton Mount. He was known as The Human Cannonball - he used to travel with fairgrounds as I recall and I did see him once at an event being shot out into a net! They were really interesting people and I seem to remember him telling us that he had written a book about his life - I’ll see what I can find. They also had a lodger, Carl, who used to dress as a cowboy - also from a fairground background - and his daughter, Carlita, living with them for a time.

I said “fairground” but it could have been a circus act - I remember my mum saying she had seen photos of Sally in her younger performing days.

You watching my restoration is like Pavarotti watching a hen party do Karaoke.

I remember going to his friends house for a barbecue and he said "do you remember when we ate inside and crapped outside". I do think the things that really mattered in life where in more abundance back then.

@davidterry2038 Thanks for the comment. The best photos for any song are the ones in your head.

Wow, You get 10 extra points for the CA with three speed column change and sliding doors but you loose 5 points for not spotting the big bore exhaust on the mini. You also loose five more points for not naming the dog at 25 seconds.😂

Its open every Wednesday I think to have a wander round.

Wow, you survived falling in the canal and going to Ancoats Hospital.😂

Thanks for the info and kind words. From your info I have found another photo that states it is on the corner of Hullchester road and Pottery Land. Looking at the old maps I think the photo has been mislabelled and should be Huddleston Street. Thanks again for solving the mystery.

⁠​⁠@@bertdinglethe unknown pub borwell street at 9.07 is/was the gardeners arms corner borwell street and gorton lane still standing but big chimney on the corner taken down it’s now a local shop

Just seen another pub at 9.11 on Preston street corner of gorton lane is the steelworks tavern still going as a pub

@@ockers54 Ashamed to say I drive past it regular and didn't realise. Opposite end to the conservative club, I bet a few more pensioners will have joined that recently to keep warm over winter!

It's not as bad as you think but then a again Rottweiler's tend to walk round in pairs these days :)

@MashUp-ut6jx The road going over the bridge is Alston Road Gorton. The large house you can see to the right was Gorton Hall and is now the bowling green on High Bank and behind you to the right is the back of Abbey Hey School. The houses on the left are still there on High Bank but more houses have been built between them and the canal.

@@bertdingle cheers mate, I thought it was. I ride past there every day.

Have a look at my slum clearance video. I guess when the council destroyed the community by demolishing all the houses they thought were slums, the pubs either got demolish with them or the communities that used them were moved away and they closed.

@@bertdingle Will do. I used to find a certain magic in 'estate pubs'. Still do, when I can find one. Each one is its own little world.

@@paulsharp2565 @BeeHereNowuk has done a great video on estate pubs in Manchester. Well worth a watch ruclips.net/video/lrs59cdofSw/видео.html

Such a shame. On paper these flats with indoor toilets and modern bathrooms were so much better then the run down houses people had moved from but you can't quantify or reproduce community. A community is like a fragile eco system and the slightest change can destroy it.

Thanks. I was given it for free many years ago when I was the only one still listening to records. Had to buy a stylus for it a few years ago and the cost made my eyes water. Hope your doing well.

@@bertdingle I’ll send you an email shortly! Or should I say ”I’ll DM you hun” 🤣

@mollymay4447 if you remember it you hadn't drunk enough 😂 Thanks for watching.

One of the few pub still going in Gorton, opposite the Royal Oak.

Hard as nails - hammer !

@cphawud8242 Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Did you play in the coal yard or Scrap yard behind the school. I never did Honest :)

Yep I played in the coal yard remember collecting coal in an old pram during the strikes. I also went to varna street crossing the bridge never saw it with water, shame . Love the canals and am fortunate to live close to one now @@bertdingle

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@damianleah6744 stolen! sounds about right :)

@brenda6580 Thanks and glad you enjoyed it.

@ingram67 I had family who moved into Kingsbridge Ave back then.

I know that avenue just off Honiton 😁

@user-pf2rx3mj4e The Plough would have been your local but it's good to exercise before a pint :)

Plough still their dearest pub in gorton so i'm told , i left m18 many many years ago , my mums best mate julie her parents used to own the cheshire hunt , not far from the coach and horses on bellvue st

@mm2280 Hulme re development, so good it lasted 21 years! I've had t-shirts longer than that! :)

What a lovely back drop for a fashion show.