Indeterminate Design
Indeterminate Design
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Testing Fans and Filters for an RC Fan Car
With the success of the first fan car dragster video, I decided to try out some new fan and cyclonic filter designs to see if I could fix the issues I found with the initial fan car.
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Видео

RC Top Speed Record Car Prototype V1
Просмотров 10 тыс.2 месяца назад
This is an initial prototype for an RC car aimed at setting the 4 cell speed record. All the CFD for this car was done using AirShaper. Check them out here: airshaper.com/ #3dprinting #radiocontrol #speedrun
This RC Dragster Uses a Fan for INSANE Downforce & Acceleration!
Просмотров 23 тыс.4 месяца назад
Using my previous experience with 3D printed fans and compressors I decided to create a RC Dragster. All the CFD for this car was done using AirShaper. Check them out here: airshaper.com/ Also check out Engineering After Hour's RUclips channel if you want to see more fan car madness: www.youtube.com/@EngineeringAfterHours/videos #3dprinting #fancar #radiocontrol
Next-Level RC Car: Realistic Force Feedback Steering!
Просмотров 7 тыс.6 месяцев назад
A project that has been brewing for a long time. I built a prototype force feedback RC car that actually measures the steering forces of the RC car and recreates them via the transmitters. ⭐️ Checkout Joyalens if you need an amazing digital microscope 🔬: bit.ly/3Wt5aqq Article on Race Car Engineering about the aligning torque: www.racecar-engineering.com/tech-explained/tech-explained-steering-f...
3D Printed Hydraulics
Просмотров 31 тыс.7 месяцев назад
I wanted to experiment with some 3D printed hydraulics to see what was possible. Obviously, never going to be as strong as real metal hydraulics but there are still a lot of possibilities for tiny actuators. JLC3DP 3D Printing Starts at $0.3, Sign Up Get $60 Coupons Here : jlc3dp.com/?from=IndeterminateDesign
RC Hypercar Pt10
Просмотров 2,8 тыс.9 месяцев назад
With all the electronics installed on the RC Hypercar, we can finally start to do some cool things like torque vectoring! Checkout PCBWay for your custom PCB needs and get $5 off your first order. pcbway.com/ #3dprinting #rc #racing
Ultimate 3D Printer Enclosure Filter V2
Просмотров 34 тыс.11 месяцев назад
It's been a year of using the previous filter design, and I went all out with version 2. Tool-less servicing, easier to assemble and 3d print, basically better in every way. Check it out at Printables.com www.printables.com/model/788572-ultimate-3d-printer-enclosure-filter-v2
3D Printed Screw Compressor V3
Просмотров 55 тыс.Год назад
Delve back into the world of screw compressors trying out this SLA 3D Printed screw compressor. Checkout JLC3DP Online 3D Printing starts from $0.3 , up to $60 new users coupons, and print out your own screw compressor rotors: jlc3dp.com/?from=IndeterminateDesign Checkout the 3D models for the Screw Compressor here on Printables www.printables.com/model/729476-3d-printed-screw-compressor #screw...
RC Hypercar Pt9
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.Год назад
The electronics for the RC Hypercar were a bit more complex than expected. This video is a deep dive into the inner workings of the microcontrollers, sensors and code that will run the RC Hypercar. Checkout PCBWay for your custom PCB needs and get $5 off your first order. pcbway.com/ Also checkout AirShaper for an easy use, powerful cloud based CFD service. airshaper.com/ If you're looking to s...
Project Streamliner: V5 Design and Testing
Просмотров 1,3 тыс.Год назад
The RC Streamliner saga continues. V5 fixed a lot of issues of V4, but ultimately still isn't a great solution. Let me know what you think. Also checkout AirShaper for an easy use, powerful cloud based CFD service. airshaper.com/ #rc #3dprinting #arduino
RC Hypercar Pt8 - World's Best Handling RC Car?
Просмотров 3,5 тыс.Год назад
The RC Hypercar has finally posted the insane numbers that it was built for, over 4 lateral G of monster cornering. Checkout PCBWay for your custom PCB needs and get $5 off your first order. pcbway.com/g/2f1E6m/ Also checkout AirShaper for an easy use, powerful cloud based CFD service. airshaper.com/ #RC #3dprinting #car
RC Hypercar V2 - Failure is an Option!
Просмотров 2 тыс.Год назад
Hard engineering cut of V2 of the RC Hypercar which sadly did not live very long. If you’re looking for an easy to use cloud based CFD service, checkout AirShaper: airshaper.com/ You can also checkout the CFD results on AirShaper's website for yourself: app.airshaper.com/projects/rc-hypercar-final-589b61 #3dprinting #rc #motorsport
RC Hypercar Pt6 - Aeromapping
Просмотров 2,3 тыс.Год назад
In this video, we continue the discussion around RC Hypercar's aerodynamics and we focus on aeromapping. If you’re looking for an easy to use cloud based CFD service, checkout AirShaper: airshaper.com/ You can also checkout the CFD results on AirShaper's website for yourself: app.airshaper.com/projects/rc-hypercar-final-589b61 Here is a link to the article by Zhen W. about aero sensitivity in r...
RC Hypercar Pt5 - Topside Aerodynamics
Просмотров 3,1 тыс.Год назад
In this video, I walk through the topside aerodynamics of the RC Hypercar If you’re looking for an easy to use cloud based CFD service, checkout AirShaper: airshaper.com/ You can also checkout the CFD results on AirShaper's website for yourself: app.airshaper.com/projects/rc-hypercar-final-589b61 #3dprinting #rc #motorsport
RC Hypercar Pt4 - Extreme Aerodynamics
Просмотров 13 тыс.Год назад
This is part 1 of the RC Hyper car aerodynamic development videos. If you’re looking for an easy to use CFD service, checkout AirShaper: airshaper.com/ You can also checkout the CFD results on AirShaper's website for yourself: app.airshaper.com/projects/rc-hypercar-final-589b61 Link to Joseph Katz research paper on VG's used for underfloors: www.researchgate.net/publication/338152057_Aerodynami...
3D Printer Enclosure Air Filter
Просмотров 15 тыс.Год назад
3D Printer Enclosure Air Filter
RC Hypercar Pt3 - Race Style Monocoque
Просмотров 2,3 тыс.Год назад
RC Hypercar Pt3 - Race Style Monocoque
Active Suspension - Trying to build a Bose style suspension for an RC car
Просмотров 13 тыс.Год назад
Active Suspension - Trying to build a Bose style suspension for an RC car
RC Hypercar Pt2 - F1 Style Suspension in an RC Car
Просмотров 4,9 тыс.Год назад
RC Hypercar Pt2 - F1 Style Suspension in an RC Car
Shop Infrastructure - 3D Printed Desktop Tool Storage
Просмотров 1,2 тыс.2 года назад
Shop Infrastructure - 3D Printed Desktop Tool Storage
RC Hypercar Hypercar Project Pt1
Просмотров 3,9 тыс.2 года назад
RC Hypercar Hypercar Project Pt1
F1 Seamless Gearbox Pt4
Просмотров 12 тыс.2 года назад
F1 Seamless Gearbox Pt4
Project Streamliner: V4 Design and Testing (Adding Ground Effect)
Просмотров 1 тыс.2 года назад
Project Streamliner: V4 Design and Testing (Adding Ground Effect)
Active Suspension Test Rig Pt2
Просмотров 2,6 тыс.2 года назад
Active Suspension Test Rig Pt2
F1 Hybrid Era Seamless Gearbox Pt3
Просмотров 8 тыс.2 года назад
F1 Hybrid Era Seamless Gearbox Pt3
RC Car Active Suspension - Test Rig Pt4
Просмотров 4,6 тыс.2 года назад
RC Car Active Suspension - Test Rig Pt4
F1 Hybrid Era Seamless Gearbox Pt2
Просмотров 13 тыс.2 года назад
F1 Hybrid Era Seamless Gearbox Pt2
RC Car Traction Control with an Arduino
Просмотров 4,8 тыс.2 года назад
RC Car Traction Control with an Arduino
3D Printed Dog Wheelchair
Просмотров 1,5 тыс.2 года назад
3D Printed Dog Wheelchair
Project Streamliner: Version 3 Initial Test - Pt10
Просмотров 9862 года назад
Project Streamliner: Version 3 Initial Test - Pt10

Комментарии

  • @GarrettRoederRacing
    @GarrettRoederRacing 5 дней назад

    I’m involved with a lot of high level rc drifting and racing, and I know I and others would kill to have a real force feedback system. Right now in drifting we rely heavily on electronic gyros to control the car, but force feedback would give more control to the driver, which a lot of people are missing. Some have tried non assisted drifting but it is incredibly difficult as you can guess when there is nothing but visual cues to go off of

  • @Ugaux
    @Ugaux 5 дней назад

    Exactly what I was looking for, was even planning to do one myself

  • @Molb0rg
    @Molb0rg 6 дней назад

    A year passed - do it!))

  • @Raju-m8s80
    @Raju-m8s80 8 дней назад

    hello bhai suspension kaise banate hain bataiye

  • @thewatchman0_o39
    @thewatchman0_o39 9 дней назад

    You definitely deserve way more subscribers ! Keep up the good work !

  • @josepmr1583
    @josepmr1583 10 дней назад

    i have a cuestion, could you give me the .f3z to download the screw compresor?? because the link you are giving in the comments do not let me open it on fusion360 (sorry for my english i am from spain)

  • @FacelessBillions
    @FacelessBillions 12 дней назад

    Hey man, I really wanna turk my HyperGo RC car into a time attack machine but dont know exactly where to start, any recommendations?

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 10 дней назад

      I'm not familiar with that particular RC car. If it's on road then I'd start with the suspension and tires and getting that dialed in. Then you might try some wings, even on the roof in the middle of the car to just see how the downforce affects the car. I designed this car from the ground up with a 3rd member or heave spring and that is key when you get into higher downforce levels, particularly if you're using the bottom of the car to generate downforce. Separate wings are a lot easier to tune and not as sensitive to ride height. Good luck!

  • @toolscientist
    @toolscientist 13 дней назад

    I think you need to characterise your fans for flow and pressure. Water column is an easy test for pressure. Your axial fans are quite likely in aerodynamic stall due to the inlet restriction and I think only a centrifugal type would ever work (maybe multi-stage axial, but that's very difficult). I think pressure is going to be more important to you than flow. Per the fan affinity laws, you want smaller diameter and higher RPM. If you want to cheat, just use a dyson impeller and motor, something like 0.28bar sealed pressure @ 125,000 RPM. You'll need 6S li-ion, though.

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 12 дней назад

      That makes sense, I was worried about that inlet restriction for the axial fan. It’s hard to pack all this into such a small space. I had no idea the Dyson was running 125k rpm. I need to figure out a way to better balance these fans. I’m going to look online and see if can pickup a used Dyson and try it out. I hadn’t heard of the fan affinity laws. I need to really work on sizing the impeller to meet my exact needs.

    • @toolscientist
      @toolscientist 12 дней назад

      ​@IndeterminateDesign I think your definitely not getting enough pressure. 1bar is 10g/mm2, but your graph at 20:25 is 0.02g, so about 0.002 bar or 0.2kPa. Obviously, there's a bit of leakage with the skirt. Did you seal the car body to stop it pulling air through the 3D printed surfaces? In any case it might be useful to do a water lift test, unless you plan on just going straight to a dyson impeller.

    • @toolscientist
      @toolscientist 12 дней назад

      @ RE: fan affinity laws. I find it useful to solve for constant power, so W1=W2. That gives (n2/n1) = (d2/d1)^(-5/3). Substituting that into pressure law gives (p2/p1) = (d2/d1)^(-4/3), so you should decrease diameter to increase pressure (with a corresponding increase in RPM to keep same power). Halving diameter (d2/d1 = 0.5) gives a 2.5x increase in pressure (if you increase RPM by 3.17x to maintain same power).

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 11 дней назад

      That would make a huge difference. I'm going to pickup some faster brushless motors. I tried a closed shroud fan today and picked up about 10% performance and it's massively quieter and smoother. I think I'm getting some blade flexing with the open shroud.

  • @toolscientist
    @toolscientist 13 дней назад

    18:30 would be good to see power here, too. Grams/watt is the key. Although grams-downforce/grams-added is maybe more key.

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 12 дней назад

      Agreed, I need to build a high amperage current measurement setup. The one I have only goes to 20amps, and these fans are definitely exceeding that.

  • @5eurosenelsuelo
    @5eurosenelsuelo 13 дней назад

    Super cool project. That thing is shaking itself apart though. You might want to use locking nuts such as din 985 or similar ones. It's not perfect preventing the loss of preload but at least the nuts shouldn't completely come off.

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 12 дней назад

      For testing I just have it setup to snap together which was a bad idea. I also have to figure out how to balance these a lot better. The fans weigh 12g, so I need a way to balance down to a few milligrams.

  • @Brian-S
    @Brian-S 13 дней назад

    Look into x8 cinelifter drones. They are a octocopter with a small layout and use contra rotating props. Generally the consensus there is the second fan (props) is producing 30% less thrust because of the dirty air. They do the same thing with a higher pitch blade for the secondary fan though so parts in the right direction for sure

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 12 дней назад

      That’s a cool setup. I looked at a couple of EDFs that were contra rotating too for large RC planes. I still don’t know how efficient they’d be just compared to running a larger single fan. They do generate more pressure but clearly my setup didn’t.

  • @selmmakesstuff
    @selmmakesstuff 14 дней назад

    The quality of your videos is really outstanding

  • @gp8666
    @gp8666 14 дней назад

    what if instead of using a vacuum cleaner setup you instead just used a normal mesh filter but with a blown diffuser setup? would there be a significant loss in efficiency? in theory it would eliminate all wear and tear on the fan and even save some weight/volume. presuming its less efficient that would just mean you have more thrust to play around with and could even try a blown wing for extra static downforce

    • @gp8666
      @gp8666 14 дней назад

      heck you could even reduce frontal pressure with the intake

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 13 дней назад

      I think it definitely would work, there are several FSAE cars that have tried this with electric fans. I’m not sure how much downforce it would generate, I need to run some CFD sims to see what’s possible. It would definitely reduce drag.

  • @shawnington
    @shawnington 14 дней назад

    What a fun process to follow along with. I wonder how much more room there is for improvement with a hypothetically optimal torque vectoring setup that considered weight transfer. I was actually shocked that it made such a large difference at high speeds. 0.4g is not insignificant at all considering the amount of downforce already involved.

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 14 дней назад

      Thanks! Yeah, I think in retrospect that a lot of that gain at high speed was because I could push the car harder over the bumps. Basically the torque vectoring was acting like stability control so I could lean on the car more.

  • @3.2213
    @3.2213 14 дней назад

    Awesome video btw

  • @3.2213
    @3.2213 14 дней назад

    Premier Aerodynamics made a video just for you named: Using Artificial Suction To Improve Lap Times Podcast 215 link: ruclips.net/video/HazZf2Z8Qrw/видео.html

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 12 дней назад

      I saw that video. It’s really cool stuff. The air curtain is a great idea for low speed sealing. I don’t know if I could package it in a 1/10 scale RC car. It’s on my list to play with and see.

  • @eric13hill
    @eric13hill 14 дней назад

    This is one of my favorite channels! Keep up the great work.

  • @beachboardfan9544
    @beachboardfan9544 14 дней назад

    Why are axial and contra so difficult to optimize for compared to centrifugal? What do plane mfg's know that we dont?

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 14 дней назад

      There’s a lot of information on how to optimize a single axial fan, but just due their shape it’s hard to generate a lot of pressure with a single stage. Hence jet engines have several stages to achieve enough pressure. For contra rotating there’s just not a lot of guidance or publicly available information on how to optimize these. I think it’s a lot of testing and even some specialized CFD setups. My contra fan moves a huge amount of air, it just doesn’t like being choked. Might be better in an airplane.

  • @wildgophers91
    @wildgophers91 14 дней назад

    God I love this channel

  • @marccanty8991
    @marccanty8991 14 дней назад

    The fan needs to be balanced.-MSC-

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 14 дней назад

      Yeah, I did my best to balance the fan but being less than 10 grams means it’s very small amounts to deal with. Also the plastic hits different resonances depending on the speed which causes it to shake.

  • @philthy5690
    @philthy5690 14 дней назад

    I feel like contra-rotating is more for high flow, low rpm applications like a plane or boat propeller, instead of high-speed fans like these.

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 14 дней назад

      Yeah, that makes sense. 20k+ rpm is asking a lot. It did move a lot of air though.

  • @aryanroy9050
    @aryanroy9050 15 дней назад

    Such a great vid! Could you post your fan's cad somewhere? I'd really like to use this in my project!

  • @Philly_Willy
    @Philly_Willy 15 дней назад

    Is there any chance I could get the files for the mixed flow design? I'm trying to make a robot for a school competition

  • @murraymadness4674
    @murraymadness4674 18 дней назад

    Nice work. I would suggest you move the heavy wheel motors off the wheels and put them in the center with driveshafts.

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 14 дней назад

      I looked at that a bit, I couldn’t find a good driveshaft setup. I need to buy some old RC touring cars for parts. The driveshaft some trade offs as well, the diffuser would be smaller in the middle.

  • @rallykim7356
    @rallykim7356 20 дней назад

    amazing, DirectDriveWheel for RC!!!!

  • @michaelg4931
    @michaelg4931 27 дней назад

    If stuff isn't 'sploding, you aren't pushing it hard enough. 😜

  • @MatheusHenrique-mr4ed
    @MatheusHenrique-mr4ed 28 дней назад

    Wow, finally found some great stuff on YT. Finding this type of content nowadays, when there is so much empty and useless stuff all around, is certainly a breath of fresh air.

  • @bill-nn1vp
    @bill-nn1vp Месяц назад

    good vid.. slick tranny !!!!

  • @Mikanikalmotorcicl
    @Mikanikalmotorcicl Месяц назад

    يستحق الاعجاب ‏‪8:02‬‏

  • @kidopa_fotografie
    @kidopa_fotografie Месяц назад

    Hi, I'm a mechanical engineer mostly doing hydraulic stuff for test systems in the automotive industry. Your system is impressive. I've seen some issues which caused the leakage and the which will damage your cylinder over time. First of all the shaft seal has to be connected to the suction side of your pump, so it wont be pushed out when the pressure is rising. Second, your cylinder is bolted down to the table, therefore the piston rod is bending and putting untypical forces to the cylinder head. Your piston rod will wear down the cylinder head fast and it will beginn to leak. Mount your Cylinder in a way it can swivel with your construction. You have negative forces put on your cylinder. Therefore it retracts to fast, almost with no resistance than friction, in industrial applications this can cause heavy damages. You have to preload the retraction movement with at least in line a relief valve or better with a counter-balance valve. In your case this doesn't matter, but it is something you should be aware of. But really nicely done. Kind regards and a happy new year!

  • @LitKAW303
    @LitKAW303 Месяц назад

    Thank you hoping I can modify this to work with my rescued jack Russel who was thrown out of a car and has neurological issues which causes balance issues. Thanks

  • @hijack4228
    @hijack4228 Месяц назад

    that would be amazing with my sim rig and some fpv

  • @Raju-m8s80
    @Raju-m8s80 Месяц назад

    हेलो भाई इस सस्पेंशन काम कैसे कर रहा है बताइए ऊपर नीचे झटका को अब जॉब करने वाला

  • @supramanx1997
    @supramanx1997 Месяц назад

    Pair this with the video I saw using a Logitech wheel, fancy transmitter, and FPV goggles with a head tracked 3-axis gimbal camera and you'll never peel me off it

    • @rcautoball
      @rcautoball Месяц назад

      You talking about one of my videos? Lol. I'd love to see this exact thing done to add to my setup. Full FFB would make it THAT much better!

  • @BrianVanderbusch
    @BrianVanderbusch Месяц назад

    I absolutely love the amount of engineering put into this

  • @5eurosenelsuelo
    @5eurosenelsuelo Месяц назад

    Good luck with your project. It looks very interesting.

  • @ChiranthBN-b9j
    @ChiranthBN-b9j 2 месяца назад

    Hi Sir, I'm a mechanical student studying in india. I really liked the ideas of design that you implemented on RC car and I've also in the same project but with different ideas so can you tell me where I can get those frame and wishbone etc.,in india. That would be helpful for me and my project

    • @IndeterminateDesign
      @IndeterminateDesign 2 месяца назад

      Unfortunately the RC car I used was 30yrs old so it’s no longer available. The suspension and rockers arms were all custom designed and 3D printed for that specific RC car. I know several viewers used an RC car from WLToys (from China). They had to design their own suspension rockers and servo mounts, but that chassis has lots of room for that.

  • @ye-n2k
    @ye-n2k 2 месяца назад

    Hi! Do you know where I can acess the CAD documents?

  • @eansmith4925
    @eansmith4925 2 месяца назад

    Failure is not an option. It's a guarantee on the way to success.

  • @andreazulujime
    @andreazulujime 2 месяца назад

    Como estas, por que no tratas de hacer lo contrario y crear un turbo expansor que funciones con aire comprimido para generar energia

  • @MT-THNDR207
    @MT-THNDR207 2 месяца назад

    I have the Hakko FX-888D soldering station, too. I love this kit so much. I use it for all my electronics needs. I've owned it for at least 7 years.

  • @RoadHead62
    @RoadHead62 2 месяца назад

    Take a page from the Chaparral 2J suction cars. Add a suction fan to get your downforce and use the exhaust for additional thrust. Then you can clean up your profiles even more.

  • @drewrinker2071
    @drewrinker2071 2 месяца назад

    Lost pla casting using zamax. I think you'd be surprised at just how easy 3d metal prints are with rubber coated screws this would be an interesting project

  • @drewrinker2071
    @drewrinker2071 2 месяца назад

    Still this a really cool demonstration to show kids how these compressor work. I think this is awesome. I know the ones used in industrial look like they have a rubber coating on them. Maybe try to spray flex seal on them and see how it does

  • @somenygaard
    @somenygaard 2 месяца назад

    That pavement looked like the moon’s surface, it was quite rough.

  • @Andy-df5fj
    @Andy-df5fj 2 месяца назад

    I didn't watch the full video, but did you try putting a small horizontal tail on the rear wheel to keep it pressed to the ground?

  • @alvarocueva780
    @alvarocueva780 2 месяца назад

    What is the vehicule’s model ?

  • @charlesblithfield6182
    @charlesblithfield6182 2 месяца назад

    Cool video. I like the detailed analysis of your design process. Good luck with the next version(s).

  • @D3moknight
    @D3moknight 2 месяца назад

    I am looking at your rear steering mechanism, and thinking you can do away with the external servo horn entirely if you allow the pivot to be in line with the servo output. In your speed runs, the steering position will always be straight or near straight while under way, so you could save some weight and aero drag by doing this. I also suspect that above 60mph or so that most of your steering authority comes from the aero rather than any wheels that you would be using for the rear.

  • @v12lol
    @v12lol 2 месяца назад

    F1 Transmission V4 v35.zip in your github was it supposed to be the same as the test prints?