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Both device are suitable, because programs for degenerated muscles are the same. So, difference is in technology options, accessories and price. Good luck with the choice.

6.0 and 8.0 are very close. Both will do the job. If you’re on a budget than a 6.0 is a very good option!

Yes, because the surface is much smaller (just the tip of the pen) vs the electrode. So don’t increase the intensity to high when you use the motorpoint. Average only an intensity of 5.

The Compex Energy is an older generation device. Its a bit comparable to the SP2. It’s difficult to compare to older generations, but they are close.

@@CompexAcademy thank you so much. Best regard

Of the cables are dropping from the connection ports, they ar not clicked in properly. Insert them until you feel/hear a click. That could also cause a connection failure.

When you are based in the US you cannot order the EU version.

Hi, we cannot send you an EU device, because as a company we are limited by the FDA. And therefore I also cannot give you any advice about this.

It’s a Compex specific battery. I recommend to use an original Compex battery.

You’re welcome.

Yes, the gray edition has more sports programs, where the fit don’t have sport programs . The fit series is for daily activities and the sport gray for people who do sports.

Thank you, is the gray one still good for muscle recovery (athrophy)? @CompexAcademy

Yes it is.

It should normally be available on www.compex.com

Thank you

It’s possible for all muscle, but you have to consider the contraction times. I prefer resistance program, because you have 6 sec of contraction and 6 sec of relaxation (rest) time. So, you jump- pull up 1-2x (depending how fast you are)-jump off and rest - jump - pull 1-2x - rest- jump - pull 1-2 times- rest - etc. Tip: put the contraction sound on so you know when to jump before contraction starts. It requires some timing but you will manage very quickly 😀

The same pulswidth: around 300ms.

It’s around 300ms, depending on the type of program.

Thank you for that! So once you have built up to being able to do 60 cycles. Would you ever repeat more than one complete cycle of 60 in a work out? For example, would you do two or three sets of 60 cycles? Or would that potentially lead to over training? Thank you.

I recommend you to increase in intensity instead of the amount of cycles. 60 cycles should be enough. Some programs can also be increased in level. Some programs has different levels. Mainly 3 levels. So increase in intensity first and than in level if possible.

Always after the Compex off week you move to the next cycle. Is there a specific program you are refering to?

Ok, thank you! I’m using the strength program for my quads after ACLR.

Ok, that’s perfect.

Any suggestions what to do when cycle 3 is finished?!

Everybody has the right for his own opinion. I am curious what motivated argument you are having for this statement.

There’s often a small difference between left and right. Sometimes the difference is really significant. In that case the highest number means less excitable. You need more intensity to get the same contraction effect. That could indicate that that side is less trained, so you can say weaker. It’s mainly less excitable, so the nerve system reacts less accurate. If there is a more than 30% difference, the leg with the highest intensity is a potential risk to injury in competition. I hope this is the answer you are looking for.

Thank you for your awnser! That clears a lot for me. I had an ACL reconstruction almost 7 weeks ago and I started 2 days pos-op with the compex (static) on the operated leg. Now I train both legs (dynamic) but there’s a difference between both legs in how much they can tolerate. The uninjured leg can’t tolerate as much as the reconstructed side. But with your explanation I understand why. Thank you!

You’re welcome. Good luck with your rehab!

I have another question that popped up. How does the workload score relate to this. Wouldn’t it be beter to train legs apart from the other side so you will have a workload score per leg because they are still so far apart due to the reconstruction surgery? Or just both legs at the same time?

I recommend to train both legs at the same time. Let the weakest leg be in the lead in the training. Try to work with max tolarable in the weakest leg and use the same intensity on the other leg.

No there isn't. This is a very specific (medical) treatment. Compex only shows general muscle placements.

Hi, most error codes are coming from a defect of battery, charger or pcb, but I don’t know all error codes. Contact you local Compex service department (you can find them on www.compex.com) and ask this question of the error code. They have a list of error codes related to the issue. Most common issues are about battery defect. Replacing a battery solves lots of errors, but not all.

Cela pourrait être la batterie. Vous pouvez demander des codes d'erreur exacts à support@enovis.com

@@CompexAcademy finalement, un coup il fonctionne, un coup c est erreur 249....faut quand meme insisté, j ai faillit le balancer à la poubelle 🤣... Vu le prix de cet appareil, c est comment dire🙄🤔... Ps:Je vois rien sur ce site indiqué pour trouver les msg d'erreurs 🙄

Envoyez un e-mail à support@enovis.com. Je ne peux lire aucun message d'erreur. Je ne sais pas quelle est l'erreur avec chaque code. Je pense à la batterie, mais je ne suis pas sûr. Ils peuvent vous aider mieux que moi.@@liomars8087

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Recovery programs you can do as often as you want, so you can plan them in without restrictions. So, after a Compex training you can use recovery and massage programs as much as you want, also the same day. For training: when you do static exercises leave at minimum 1 day between a training of the same muscle group. With dynamic minimum 2 days. Compex training week example static: Mo-quads, Tue-shoulders, Wed-quads, Thur- Shoulders, Friday-quads, Sat-shoulders, Sun-no Compex. You can also add 1 muscle group and keep 2 days in between like with dynamic exercises. But for dynamic you need min 2 days in between. For Dynamic example: Mo-quads, Tue-shoulders, Wed-Abs, Thur- Quads, Friday-Shoulders, Sat-Abs, Sun-no Compex. Give yourself always 1 Compex day free. I hope this answer is helpful for you.

@@CompexAcademy Thank you very fast and such a detailed answer

@@CompexAcademy I have another important question for me. How to use the device to increase strength when doing crossfit? I have 10 to 14 workouts a week for 2 hours. Load on all muscle groups. Is it worth it to use the device for training additionally and will it help in increasing strength or do only recovery programs?

That’s a lot of workouts, so you need to be careful with the impact of Compex strength training. But if you want, choose 1 weakest muscle group and execute Compex strength training avg 3 x per week before your CrossFit session. And see how that works for you.

Hi Marcelo, it means you have a defective PCB. Most of the time it's because the device is lying still for a long time with the battery inside. It's a costly repair... Otherwise consider a new one. There's a trade in option for extra discount, see compex.com in the bottom section.

Compex is a scam company. All their devices are built to fail. It's their business model.

Hi Alon, the SP and Fit range (in US: Edge, Performance, Sport Elite, Wireless USA) are having the same output strength (Intensity 0-999) and are the strongest with a max of 999. The compex mini has a lower output (0-299) and the CoreBelt has an output of 0-200. If the muscle reaction create a lift of the leg, is depending on what contraction intensity you can coop with, because you need high intensity levels. BUt I advise to start conservative and first learn to activate muscle in a comfortable way, before you start to find your max tolarable intensity level. I recommend you a device with a 0-999 intensity level in that case.

It can't. Due to the FDA we are restricted in the number of programs in the US, so therefore we have different devices in the US vs International. The International devices are not only having more programs, but also more options (for example Mi-functions).

The exercise is the function/movement, the weight or intensity is the load. Sitting and holding your knees in 90 degrees is also an exercise, only a simple one. You can challenge yourself to change exercises, for example squat hold or squat movement. It's not needed, it's possible.

@@CompexAcademy So I can as well just sit on the sofa and it has the same effect as doing Squat (during the red zone) ?

Hi Mike, endurance training is more a basic training (compare it with a long distance lower intensity run). This endurance training is less impactful in contractions, because it's mainly focussed on type I and those fibers are not in full contraction (you feel a shaky contraction). It's normal that the muscle soreness impact is low or not at all. Muscle soreness isn't always the key marker for improvement, but that's another discussion. You have to look at your goal. Endurance is mainly for low impact, but I think you want to be more resistant against fatigue during your trail run competition. In trail running you have lots of interval, so in that case I should recommend the program resistance or strength. It also involves Type II muscle fibers for more intensive strength. You need this for example when you run uphill. The intensitylevel is individual and needs to go as high as possible, but with the opposite muscle in control! I think you selected in the Compex Coach app the goal of "improve my quadriceps endurance", am I correct? That's a basic training. Instead of that I advice you to select "Prepare my trail" objective and I think that suits you better. I hope this is an answer to your question.

@@CompexAcademy Dear Arno, thx for your answer. I have choosen the "prep for Trail more than 70km and it always recommends the Quadrizeps training. Maybe I should chose resistant training instead of Endurance as you said.

@@CompexAcademy ah, in the programm "prep for trail" it does not tell me which programm to use exactly, it just shows where to place the electrodes

​@@miguelmike2555 Yes, try resistance (my personal favorite). You can do it 3x per week, you need 1-2 days rest in between. Good luck!

I don't think I fully understand your question. What do you mean exactly?

I can be mistaken of course but on all our devices we show chest placement. Only due to new (medical) regulations we must give a small warning sign based for people with heart issues. It's just for regulations. Compex impulse is in my opinion the safest impulse in the market and 100% safe.

It can't. You always need to place the Mi-lead on the weakest muscle. Based on that calculation he applies the most comfortable impulse and all functionalities to all channels. So always place the Mi-sensor on the weakest or affected muscle. The Wired device software can only coop with 1 sensor. The advantage of a wireless device is that we included the Mi-sensor in all modules. The technology is better and therefore also more investment.

There are pros and cons for both. The modules need to be bigger, because of technology inside of the modules and therefore a bit heavier. A charging dock defect is more money outside warranty indeed. But all modules, charging dock and remote are under warranty (3 years when registration website and for SP8.0 WOD edition even 5 years), where for wired devices only the device has 3 years warranty. Cables and battery only 6 months. But your remark also replies for all modern electronics. When something happens with the battery of your Phone you also cannot replace it simple (as in the past), but costs more money. The warranty of the wireless Compex devices are better than the wired in my opinion, so I would always recommend to invest on a wireless if possible.

When the electrodes are worn down or when you sweat a lot, the weight of the modules can pull off the electrodes. In that case we have elastic straps as an accessory for an extra fixation. Charging dock issues are only occurring when people aren't carefully using the docking station. The pins inside the docking can break or pushed in. Personally I have multiple SP8.0's for years and never broke or pushed in a pin. If it happens within warranty time we always replace the charging dock.

Yes it's possible. You basically connect than 2 small ones, so the surface of stimulation is a bit less.

@@CompexAcademy Thank you Arno. But maybe you got me wrong. I wanted to know if it makes any difference if I use a big double electrode but using just one of the snaps instead of a big one single electrode (as I ran out of the big single ones).

@@michaelbrenner9529 yes you can. The double snap are basically 2 small electrodes on one “sticker”. So when you connect one snap, you connect one small electrode. When you stimulate, the impuls goes from electrode A to electrode B, so that’s what I meant with smaller surface. Tip: if you normally use electrode A and B with single snap long ones, you can use 2 double snaps and make a diagonal connection. If you need a picture clarification, send me an email: Arno.bosman@enovis.com

@@CompexAcademy Thank you again Arno. Now I know what you meant. The email is on the way ;-)

Thanks for your compliments and advice.

Hi Andrew, you will only need 1 mi-sensor cable. This cable will indeed act as a master sensor.

The endurance program for endurance improvement and resistance program for strength improvement are having the longest contraction time.

The Compex warranty of 2+1 year is in all countries (also USA)

There's not really a contradictory. Basically it's simple: the opposite muscle (hamsting/glutes in this wallsit) are the controllable factor. They need to be the controllable factor for balancing the primary vs opposite muscle. When you sit against the wall and increase the intensity, at a certain intensity level the quads are contracted so hard by the device that your knees/legs start to extend. So, when your knees/legs start to extend, your opposite muscles are trying to resist that extension. Max intensity is where you just can control with the opposite muscles the position your are in. When you feel that you JUST can hold the 90 degrees position -> that's your personal max intensity level. Indeed when you also contract the muscle along the device contraction it FEELS more comfortable, but than you have to contract quads + hamstring/glutes at the same time. This is the situation with static exercises. In dynamic exercises the key marker is that the movement is still smooth. Than with moving you automatically contract primary and opposite muscle alternatingly, so therefore it FEELS more comfortable automatically. So, dynamic exercises are experienced as more comfortable during exercise than static. But afterwards the DOMS (muscle pains) can be more severe. I hope this clarifies your question.

@@CompexAcademy thank you for the detailed explanation

In active recovery the intensity must be comfortable with visible twitching of the muscle. Intensities are individual and vary a lot to one another, so the guideline is until comfortable and visible twitches. The Mi-(auto)range can determine it for you. And yes you can do 2 cycles AR in a row. you can execute it as much as you want.

You do not need to fix your feet. The opposite muscle needs to be in control for muscle balance. When you fix feet, you shut down the opposite muscle control and create disbalances. There are no upgrade programs. In Europe we have some trade in options.