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Your brain releases the club regardless. Having the idea of holding the angle prevents flipping. I do it with my full swing as well. The minute you think about a release you will flip at the ball. So I disagree. I think Phil meant hold the hinge and that thought helps to keep the release short so the club doesn’t pass the hands

OWGR is there and still 100% valid. The retirees tour can do their own thing if they wish. Maybe a Ryder Cup style matchup against the members of the Old Hat Driving Range so they might have a chance to win.

I think you still didn't get Phil's description corrected properly, although I think you're close. What he does is to set up with his lead arm in line with the shaft, and he returns to this same position at impact, BUT after impact he keeps his lead shoulder, lead elbow, lead wrist, and clubhead all aligned, just as they were at setup and at impact. Keeping the shaft aligned with the lead arm this way is a way of softening the impact (lowering the smash factor) and increasing control. Many pros chip with the shaft pointed at the lead hip, which looks almost the same at impact, but the big difference here is what the wrists and arms do through and after impact. With H&H the shaft and lead arm remain in the same line, like a big lever anchored at the lead shoulder.

Scotty

I think he's taking role in the new board him and Phil

need to sort broadcasting...especially global

Glad you're back, please keep posting content

I deleted my post because I just read an article from 5 days ago that Greg said on some radio show he is out as ceo. But how is this not official still ?

Golf viewing figures are in decline worldwide and a merger with LIV and return to the prior status quo won’t be enough to revive the games’ popularity with the viewing public. The goose that lays the golden egg is wounded.

Greg should be tasked to start LIV Ladies , he’s great at start ups

I’m sick of Tiger 😡 I’m sick of Rory I’m sick of the golf channel 😡 I want to see the best golfers 🏌️‍♂️ go head to head 😡

Not a Norman fan anymore....he ruined golf

Welcome back. Missed the probing question and possible theories we all want to know answers to. Also keeping the conversation going that mainstream golf networks want to bury.

welcome back both.

Tiger hates Greg because he said in an interview years ago that Tiger wouldn't beat Jacks record in Majors because his swing was so violent and his back wouldnt last. Greg has been proven right, again.

I went to JCB and Valderrama this year. LIV events are easily the best golf tournaments to attend and I've been to many on every tour over the years.

Thinking Man Show is the textbook definition of Quality over Quantity good hearing from you boys again

Been a few months since you’ve put out any new content. Thought this channel might have died. Hopefully you’re back and start putting out more frequent videos.

Greg Norman and LIV saved Golf.

LIV's association/relationship with Trump will help a lot once he gets back in office

Getting rid of Norman is a bad idea, he's one of the best things about LIV golf.

No doubt in my mind that a final deal between PIF and PGA entailed the exodus of Norman. Don't believe that Woods would have signed off with Norman in the room. Just my thoughts.

You two need to get your info out in a more timely manner….you did this on the 3rd and we finally view it on the 8th? You make legacy media relevant 🤮

If PIF can buy the Euro tour and make Euro pro golf stronger, then its a platform for LIV to be part of the World Tour.

Miss seeing your show!

why should Rory have waited for a caddy to finish his celebrations in the middle of the green by the hole, when all the american players were already off the green? if the story is about the caddy, then he is by definition in the wrong.

one little tiny nit, phil says never play the ball in the center of your stance for these chips...only off the left foot...or off right foot. but so glad you brought attention to the release in there for sure. ruclips.net/video/Zw54FUsZyt8/видео.htmlsi=v5-1kbTfi4PotYx_

Have these guys stopped doing new shows? Nothing for 3 months…

I’d like you to address the change in golf television. I used to enjoy and look forward to watching golf on TV. Coverage seemed batter and announcers more interested in the game than reading stats or expressing opinions. Now it is difficult to watch the PGA tournaments on the golf channel anymore. I’m not sure if it’s changed or I have changed what I expect. I thoroughly enjoy the Ryder cup, the Masters, and the LPGA and collegiate golf. It seems like real golf. Is it the course manipulation, players, coverage, technology, or the viewer that has changed? I have enjoyed what little LIV I’ve seen on television. I do watch some on RUclips, but that’s more to catch up on what those players I enjoy most are specifically doing. I would really like to see you both take on where televised golf is going and where streaming services (multiple content choices) like RUclips are likely to end up. Tiger is in it for Tiger. I wouldn’t choose him for my team. He’s was a great golfer, that’s all.

Omg dude trying to be a puke DJ! Just talk so we can understand what your fricking saying!

The only way to truly hold that hinge through impact is side bend of them trail side IMO

I listened to this earlier. I had to get away and think about why the OWGR doesn’t matter any longer. They killed their golden goose. They thought they could just keep things the same and that smarter, better informed and thanks to you, golfers thinking about golf’s future and fairness. You have laid bare the corruption of world rankings in golf. They cannot recover. We need a new group to develop a real golf standings and if the OWGR ignores it, they will lose all their majors. I do believe they are that stupid. They don’t want progress. In their view, they are all powerful and will remain blind to reality. Great discussion and a first to really talk about how this corrupt groups actions are destroying professional golf’s future. I will think more about this and all the ramifications it has caused in our loved sport. Golf, rare because so many fans actually play the sport. This is not common in other sports. Our investment as individuals is huge. Thanks for this discussion. I felt the OWGR was blind, corrupt, but did not know why or how.

In regards to Tiger Woods choice at Bethpage you should consider that Woods hates New York Fans. Look at his nasty expression to the fans when he won at Bethpage. We sang happy birthday to Phil and Woods wouldn’t piss on us if we were on fire. .wood played with security throughout the round and didn’t acknowledge a single fan. The new Tiger with nothing to offer and his fake smiles since loosing endorsements do to his actions. We would rather have Keegan with his genuine passion for the Rydercup and love of us fans.

Dark star is a national treasure!!! lol

I never understood how Tiger, a guy who only looks out for himself got elevated to leadership position. He has been as detrimental to golf’s future as Jay. Both are unable to see beyond their own pocketbook. This is an older podcast and nothing has changed.

So hot dog Seth hates TRUMP . F him .

Keegan Bradley equals 56. End of story.

Turning off now after 2 whole minutes. You guys are pathetic dribblers! Get off!

The last US Ryder cup team were more focused on acting like spoilt teens than actually playing for their country. The no wearing and dothing an imaginary cap summed up where they were mentally. Scottie seemed to be the only one who tried, but just had a rough time out there. It will be very interesting to see who's selected for the next one.

No hat drama BS on his watch

I'm happy to see a change. Tired of the guys choosing their buddies to come and play when they aren't playing well.

I hope he picks all new vice captains, and get reed of the Couples, Strickers's, Love's, and any others. We need fresh blood, fresh idea's. Also they need to re-think the qualifying points from two years to the year of the Ryder cup. A player can play really good one year, and accumulate a bunch of points, but the year of the Ryder they can have a so so or bad year, but had enough point from the previous year to make the top ten. Only points during the year of the Ryder cup.

Is Seth still on the board of the OWGR? Political ranking system.

I'm thrilled to see the powers that be not rest on their laurels and just pick another old boys club member to keep the status quo, which obviously doesn't work. Keegan has shown his passion for the event, and I have confidence that he'll surround himself with people that have the same fire to actually put together a winning team on home soil that actually wants to be there. If ZJ's complete failure in Rome lead to this surprising decision, then that's a silver lining I'm willing to take moving forward.

I hope Keegan thinks outside the PGA Tour box and picks the best players regardless of tour. I have my doubts. Surprise me.

As a European, we all knew Tiger would have a poor Ryder Cup record, and never be a decent Captain, he is a tuning fork “me me me” doesn’t do team sport, or even team work. Bradley not getting selected for Rome, surprised he’s accepted the captaincy. LIV should have a number of Ryder Cup players, will Bradley pick them? Will he be allowed to pick them? For Europe there is Rahm, Tyrell Hatton and possibly Sergio, but we can still put out a team that’s determined to win. The PGA Tour believes it’s OMNI powerful, and the lead players think, that power includes them, it doesnt. Golf is a global sport, and LIV is recognising that, it also links with the Asian Tour with its international series. If the PGA doesnt work with LIV, give it 10 years and it will be the minor tour. PIF has unlimited money, has a global audience, the Major manufacturers are now realising its importance, all this in 2 years???

The only player who was always ready when still on pga tour was Reed because he kept playing DP tour events

Keegan as co-captain of the High Flyers!

Keegan is a weapon. Great choice. His passion for his country and the Ryder cup cannot be questioned.

Tiger in a leadership role of anything does nothing positive to that anything. He's too selfish