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Acquiring Minds
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I’ve been an entrepreneur for most of my career, primarily building online media brands. I sold a few of those businesses, but I’ve never been on the buyer's side of the table. Recently I became curious about buying a business.
I found myself browsing the for-sale business marketplaces, imagining the possibilities. And while there were plenty of listings to explore, I couldn’t find much information to guide me through the process of acquiring a business. Unlike start-a-business entrepreneurship, there are not countless channels and podcasts devoted to buy-a-business entrepreneurship.
There are still fewer public stories about entrepreneurs who have taken the plunge to buy a business and done well - though I knew such successes are plentiful.
Acquiring Minds is a channel to both correct that, and educate me on the journey toward buying a business. Business acquisition is an exciting prospect, and I intend for Acquiring Minds to make the path more accessible to myself and others.
I found myself browsing the for-sale business marketplaces, imagining the possibilities. And while there were plenty of listings to explore, I couldn’t find much information to guide me through the process of acquiring a business. Unlike start-a-business entrepreneurship, there are not countless channels and podcasts devoted to buy-a-business entrepreneurship.
There are still fewer public stories about entrepreneurs who have taken the plunge to buy a business and done well - though I knew such successes are plentiful.
Acquiring Minds is a channel to both correct that, and educate me on the journey toward buying a business. Business acquisition is an exciting prospect, and I intend for Acquiring Minds to make the path more accessible to myself and others.
How a Couple Left Tech to Buy a Business Together
Ray & Dana Chery were working in successful tech careers, but feeling the
time was right for a change. They were bound to pursue an entrepreneurial path eventually, and buying a business was the answer. When the listing for Monsam Portable Sinks hit the market, it was only 20 minutes away, and Ray jumped at the opportunity to meet the seller the
very next day. Both Ray and Dana also come from immigrant families, so there was kinship with the Egyptian owner. Today Ray and Dana have quit their tech jobs and are working full-time in the business, one that they believe has a ton of room to grow under their family's ownership.Here are Ray and Dana Chery, owners of Monsam Portable Sinks.
❤️ Enjoy ...
time was right for a change. They were bound to pursue an entrepreneurial path eventually, and buying a business was the answer. When the listing for Monsam Portable Sinks hit the market, it was only 20 minutes away, and Ray jumped at the opportunity to meet the seller the
very next day. Both Ray and Dana also come from immigrant families, so there was kinship with the Egyptian owner. Today Ray and Dana have quit their tech jobs and are working full-time in the business, one that they believe has a ton of room to grow under their family's ownership.Here are Ray and Dana Chery, owners of Monsam Portable Sinks.
❤️ Enjoy ...
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How to Survive Buying into a Terrible Industry | Ayo Phillips Interview
Просмотров 1 тыс.7 часов назад
Ayo Phillips bought a resurfacing & refinishing business in 2017. Within weeks the wheels started coming off. Ayo's wife suffers a traumatic delivery in a Chicago hospital, which keeps him there during the first crucial days of his transition to owner of the business, which is based in Houston. The first payroll checks don't clear. Hurricane Harvey slams Houston. Sales slide, fast. He loses peo...
The $50m Lifestyle Holdco | Abhi Ravishankar Interview
Просмотров 1,8 тыс.14 часов назад
Abhi Ravishankar and his 3 partners are building a holdco. We go into a lot of detail on its structure, but in brief it's this: The 4 have pooled their resources to buy 4 different businesses, sequentially. Each partner will search for and buy the business for which he will be the principal operator and have extra equity. But via the holdco layer, each partner is also a significant owner in the...
How to 4x a Contracting Business in 3 Years | Michael Heath Interview
Просмотров 1 тыс.День назад
In today's episode you will learn how one entrepreneur took a small garage door contracting business and quadrupled it in just 3 years. Mike Heath, along with 2 silent partners, bought Stateline Products in the St. Louis area. It was doing just $250k of SDE, split between the husband & wife owners. It did about $2m in revenue a year; its best year ever was $2.5m. In the very first year of owner...
How to Buy a $13m Business with No PG, No Investors | Carlo Santelli Interview
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Carlo bought a decades-old manufacturer of fasteners - think screws, nuts, bolts. It has $13m in revenue and $3.5m in EBITDA. Carlo was able to structure a deal that: a) didn't require him putting in any cash, b) didn't require a personal guarantee, c) paid him a nice fee at closing, and d) didn't require any outside equity, which means he owns 100% of the business. In this interview you'll lea...
Bullseye Buying a $1m SDE Business in a Hot Industry | Peter Ciaverilla Interview
Просмотров 2 тыс.14 дней назад
Today's guest Pete Ciaverilla bought an HVAC business with over $1m in SDE. And he found it with proprietary search, although he also used a buy-side advisor. And then we spend time on owning and operating a sizable HVAC business, his revenue mix between residential and commercial, and how he's invested in improving that mix. Less than 3 years after buying the business, Pete has grown EBITDA fr...
Buying a Not Boring Business with $600k SDE | Shell Zhang Interview
Shell Zhang was raised in China, and absorbed there the notion that risk is bad. That a conventional profession is the appropriate career path. She studied finance, got a job in consulting, later corporate. So she did not see herself as a risk taker. But eventually she had what she calls her "awakening": She had immigrated to another country, and there is huge risk in that.That awakening led he...
Taking a Flower Shop from $600k to $9 Million | Michael Jacobson Interview
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Today's story is how Michael Jacobson, outsider to the flower industry, saw his uncle's 45-year-old, barely-profitable flower shop and decided to buy it. And since then has grown it from a paltry $600k in annual flower sales to $9.5m. This is a fascinating story, and it might make you linger over those flower shop listings you probably ignored on BizBuySell. Michael is now aiming to parlay the ...
The Path to Becoming a Better Operator & Strategist | Tim Lahey Interview
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.21 день назад
Tim Lahey acquired a home technology company almost 4 years ago. The business did about $230k of SDE when he bought it, which definitely qualifies as buying small. In addition to unpacking the pros & cons of going that small, Tim and I also discuss: buying a business that's "dusty, not rusty", using a buy-side advisor to conduct the search for you, how identifying an industry that turned him on...
First Timer Buys 7 Figure SDE Business 4 Hours Away | Nick Molina Interview
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.21 день назад
Today's guest didn't need to buy a business. Nick Molina had already built wealth. But he knew about himself that he needed an outlet for his entrepreneurial energy. He discovered entrepreneurship through acquisition on April 24th and by June 18th, less than 2 months later, he had a deal under LOI. It was a property management business in Minneapolis. Nick is in Miami, and we spend a good amoun...
How to Buy Franchise Businesses, Then Sell to PE | Alicia Miller Interview
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The first half of today's interview is Alicia's story of acquiring a portfolio of Sylvan locations - Sylvan is in the education & tutoring category - and how she improved, grew, and sold that portfolio a few years later.The second half is a distillation of what Alicia has learned since. Post-exit, Alicia remained in the franchising space, but with a focus on private equity. And she has recently...
From Frustrated Searcher to $3 5m Owner to Holdco Builder | Simon Plummer Interview
Просмотров 1,7 тыс.Месяц назад
in 2016, Simon Plummer was struggling to find businesses for sale in Australia due to the lack of a central platform like BizBuySell. Business brokers were the gatekeepers, and without their support, Simon couldn't access listings. To solve this, Simon, along with his brother and a friend, created a platform similar to BizBuySell for Australia. Brokers shared their listings on the site, which g...
Plumbing Acquisition Gone Wrong | Josh Key Interview
Просмотров 2 тыс.Месяц назад
"Trust but verify." The words that today's guest will live by going forward. It was the eleventh hour in Josh Key's acquisition of a small plumbing company, and his SBA lender springs on him that they want to see a master plumber on the cap table. He found a man through his church with a plumbing license to partner with. Flash forward: the business has been run into the ground, and Josh has had...
Adjusting to Life in a Nocturnal Business with $525k SDE | Tom & Dawson Matter Interview
Просмотров 798Месяц назад
Tom brought in his brother Dawson to help him run things, a partnership that has been crucial to navigating a chaotic transition. The Matter brothers' business cleans vent hoods for restaurants. Pros were high margins, thin competition, a service mandated by law, and how much there was to professionalize.Cons were how much there was to professionalize (that one is both pro & con) and the logist...
How and Why to Buy an Electrical Business | Fred McGill Interview
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.Месяц назад
For 7 years, Fred McGill built an online real estate brokerage from scratch. This immersion in real estate meant he'd worked with many tradespeople as his vendors. So when he set his sights on buying a business, the trades were an easy choice. You'll hear how he zeroed in on electrical services, developing a thesis on an industry often overshadowed by its cousins HVAC and plumbing. We also go d...
First Acquisition in March, $200m by Year End | Jordan Dubin Interview
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First Acquisition in March, $200m by Year End | Jordan Dubin Interview
Buying in a Huge but Overlooked Market | Jonathon Tupper Interview
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Buying in a Huge but Overlooked Market | Jonathon Tupper Interview
The Thrill & Validation of Becoming an Owner | Michael Johnson Interview
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The Thrill & Validation of Becoming an Owner | Michael Johnson Interview
Micro-Acquiring to $300k SDE on 5 Hours Per Week | Link Moser Interview
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Micro-Acquiring to $300k SDE on 5 Hours Per Week | Link Moser Interview
High Margin & Big Upside in Lice Treatment | Derek Croft Interview
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High Margin & Big Upside in Lice Treatment | Derek Croft Interview
How 2 Entrepreneurs are Rolling Up a New Market | Francisco Del Rio and Diego Silva Interview
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How 2 Entrepreneurs are Rolling Up a New Market | Francisco Del Rio and Diego Silva Interview
How to Become an Independent Sponsor | Sam Rosati Interview
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How to Become an Independent Sponsor | Sam Rosati Interview
The 2 Professors Who Helped Start the ETA Movement | Royce Yudkoff & Rick Ruback Interview
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The 2 Professors Who Helped Start the ETA Movement | Royce Yudkoff & Rick Ruback Interview
Buying a Job to Build a Business | Matt Railla Interview
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Buying a Job to Build a Business | Matt Railla Interview
$6m Business, 3 Minutes From Childhood Home | Iris Levine Interview
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$6m Business, 3 Minutes From Childhood Home | Iris Levine Interview
Buying a Business to Build a Life | Dan Drake Interview
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Buying a Business to Build a Life | Dan Drake Interview
Buying & Building a $60m Furniture Manufacturer | Gat Caperton Interview
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Buying & Building a $60m Furniture Manufacturer | Gat Caperton Interview
2 Years to Buy, Double & Exit a Medical Billing Firm | Nik Hulewsky Interview
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2 Years to Buy, Double & Exit a Medical Billing Firm | Nik Hulewsky Interview
Small SDE, Big Upside: Buying a Business with 5 Employees | Kristiana Laugen Interview
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Small SDE, Big Upside: Buying a Business with 5 Employees | Kristiana Laugen Interview
Leaving Amazon to Buy a $3m Apparel Brand | Eric Bauer Interview
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Leaving Amazon to Buy a $3m Apparel Brand | Eric Bauer Interview
hi dad! (monte)
Wow, thanks for sharing, lots of great lessons here. Appreciate it
Glory to Christ for all this wisdom
Two hours of platitudes, zero numbers and a side of force fed religion? Hard pass.
Was Sharon’s a registered as a WBE? Don’t think I heard Will ask the question
Loved that he shared his faith. He’s been through a lot
I’ve learned more here about business than my undergrad finance degree! Great interview.
Non-believers need to be believers if you want to do business. It’s easy to think that somehow you are doing business for you, but you need to remember you are operating under a context, and that context is beyond you and has been here before you and after you. You play a role in a system, a Kingdom
Wise man.
how is this premiering at midnight lol
great interview.
Amazing insights.
This was the best of AM. Absolute cream. What a great guy. Great moral foundation.
35 minutes in and I have no idea what the businesses are
let me guess…. another Ivy League MBA grad being interviewed….Will has a type🤷🏾♂️.
Question for Abhi - do all 4 members/owners of the HoldCo have similar skillsets and see themselves as operating CEOs, or more diverse and separate skillsets (finance/accounting operations, marketing, etc)? Just my opinion, but I feel like this model could be pushed further with differing skillsets compared to similar skillsets. The differing skillsets likely wouldn't fit as well with the plan for each partner to be an operator, though. Great interview!
Tons of gems in here. SLB, ABL, data gathering, discovering unknown and hidden value points, and seller-direct interaction saves huge amounts of time and money.
No discussion on sale price, deal structure, what % does he own verse his investors. Did you leave these out on accident or do some guests tell you they won’t discuss these?
Great interview and super interesting story and take on partnership model for building long term wealth. Kudos!
Looks like you missed the deal structure? 60/30 split and sba loan and $300k cash but didn’t delve into specifics at all???
Guys - what did you eat before the episode to crunch numbers like this?! Will - if you’re paying 5X for $200k SDE you’re getting hosed - you should know this better than most! And for the guest who thinks you need to buy $8M to $12M multifamily building to produce that $200k in cash flow - he is either terrible in math, or doesn’t know what he is talking about. Plenty of deal that trade around 7cap range, which means you should be able to buy a building for $3M all cash to get to that $200k cash flow number. Felt like “the blind leading the blind” episode!
You should link the original video. Can’t find it.
Amazing Corey!
How to 4x a home services business - find one that is still snail-mailing invoices, also during the largest home services boom in recent memory (Covid)
Now we need to hear a conversation on Acquiring Minds with Michael’s business partner that owns 150+ businesses!
I assume he is a minority investor in a bunch of deals and not like most traditional searchers
Would be a great interview...to hear how he started and identifies great operating partners
I agree. How does he pick businesses, how does he select operators, get funding and much more. Get him Big Will!
That would be amazing!
Very interesting
COME ON WILL ! you skipped the most important factors What company did he use for financing and asset based lending. How did he find the cold email leads, what’s the process! We need answers!!
Another excellent interview as always! I listen to at least 2 of yours a week. QQ: what would you say are the top 3 things to look for when searching for a buy-side advisor to run a search? Running a search on one's own + leveraging an buy-side advisor sounds like a good move.
Thank you to carlo & to you will this episode is a gold mine truly a eye opening episode to all the different variables opportunities within the ETA space
This might be the greatest deal in SMB history!🔥
Another great smb eta podcaster love your show bro respect
F-ing amazing!! He did financial sorcery and it worked!!
Love you Will, what an amazing interviewer you are! Top Notch Content, Amazing Guests. ❤ from South Africa.
Sale-leasebacks, seller financing, ABLs-these are all forms of financing (debt). They enabled him to purchase the business with less *equity.* It would have been nice if he told us what that the Debt (including leases)/EBITDAR (before rent) was to demonstrate how levered the transaction was. What is the implied/explicit rate in the lease? Operating or financing (sounds like a NNN operating lease)? Terms of the seller note? ABL terms (rates, advance rates)? He suggests that the ABL was drawn at closing. The obsolete inventory would not be advanced against by any competent ABL lender. If you are using less equity, and there is nothing inherently wrong with that, you are borrowing for the rest. You can call it "creative" or whatever you want. It is borrowed funds with a priority claim senior to yours. Comparing an equity check/equity purchase price/EBITDA is inapposite.
Great Interview...all industries are not great for ETA, and this interview clearly shows why the Flower Shop Industry has been stagnated even with technology & web 2.0 innovation most ETA can leverage to grow a business...I have no problem w Michael sharing his Franchise Conversion Opportunity... plenty of golden nuggets to take away from that idea also
I'm missing something. 15-20 million in excess inventory. 10.75 million in real estate and somehow gets it for 16 million?
Surprisingly not - happens more than you’d think. Inventory will be marked at cent on the $, and real estate will be held at book/cost without markup
@@RichFlair310 I received an asset based loan (ABL) on the inventory; the NOLV (net orderly liquidation value) was ~$20 million which already factors in slow moving or obsolete inventory.
@@RichFlair310 The asset based lender lent on NOLV (net orderly liquidation value) which already factors in obsolete and slow moving inventory. Therefore the ~$20 million figure for inventory already factors in obsolete inventory being worth essentially scrap value.
@@RichFlair310exactly. Raw mats go to 0 unless you value the business by its assets which at that level not a lot of people do. Significantly more effort to liquidate the business compared to keeping it running. Also harder to fail. Makes more sense to value the business based on earnings.
What am I missing...$34.5M in Assets($20M Inventory + $10M RE + $4.5M Biz) for $14.5M...Definitely some creative Deal Engineering‼️
A VERY STUPID SELLER! BUT AN AMAZING DEAL FOR THE BUYER
The seller didn't even take time to pull financials and didn’t know the amount or value of his inventory.
So in summary: look for deals with real estate, and has significant assets on hand……both of those components will give you more flexibility in reducing the cash required to close
free and clear assets!
Too good to be true. Why would seller sell a business with 15-20M inventory for 5.25M?!?!
Inventory likely had a lot of obsolescence.
He didn't. He sold it for $16M. Carlo just utilized a creative finance structure w/ Seller note, ABL & the lease back.
@@timwinard7222 (same comment as above) I received an asset based loan (ABL) on the inventory; the NOLV (net orderly liquidation value) was ~$20 million which already factors in slow moving or obsolete inventory. Machinery NOLV was ~$1 million.
I didn't understand how the seller sold for $16 MM if the RE value was $10 MM and inventory another $10 MM plus any cash flow that the business generates
@@timwinard7222 The asset based lender lent on NOLV (net orderly liquidation value) which already factors in obsolete and slow moving inventory. Therefore the ~$20 million figure for inventory already factors in obsolete inventory being worth essentially scrap value.
3.5mm ebitda now with 10-11mm factory sold...so what is pro forma ebitda less the new rent? 150k square feet, probably 150k rent per month or $1.8mm rent per year? then 3mm asset facility at call it 10% so 300k so 2.1mm pro forma interest/rent so 1.4mm cash flow post rent and interest?
He says $900k rent a year
@@michaelvan6675 got it so like a 8-9% cap rate
I also feel like there is a sleight of hand happening here. I don't understand why the business was sold for ~$15MM if it included ~$10MM of real estate, but was generating $3.5MM. Shouldn't it have sold for $13MM + market value of the factory? I see other deals all the time being valued at the sum of the income generating operation plus the value of real estate.
EBITDAR = $4.4 million less $900K of annual rent = $3.5 million EBITDA. ABL rates are SOFR + 275.
@@finch4336The business sold for ~$5.5M. The RE was worth more than the business as a separate entity.
Wow, this is one of the THE best interviews I have EVER seen on the subject of mergers/acquisitions, not only by this channel but by any channel or other source! Honestly this interview is almost like a mini-course in entrepreneurial M/A and creative financing and "financial engineering" and most everything else an aspiring business owner needs to know.
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I'm excited to hear the aussie terms used in this chat. The future for SME offerings is looking very promising in Aus.
Video paid for by Calder capital? No problem with that but should inform the audience.
It wasn't. But if you think this one was, wait until you hear Trip Biesanz's interview in a few weeks. (also not)
Great information. Big Will I will be on the podcast in a few years. Keep pumping out great information!
Funny I've gone to this flower shop many time as I live in the neighborhood. From the first time I went there I've told people this store literally looks like it's operated like a very professional start-up. Flowers are always really beautiful. And great customer service!
A lot of great info. Thank You for sharing!
Thank you for sharing.
This was an excellent presentation and discussion. Well done to Michael, a very positive story. Found the backgrounding information on the floral industry very interesting. Only thing is would have loved to hear more on his alternative for searchers who don't want to join his franchise. Thanks
This one was Too much of a sales pitch.
No idea what you mean by sales pitch.
@@mweiss505 The guest kept pushing the franchise model even after the host asked for options for florists who want to stay independent...
I hate to say this but the personality of that plumber is incredibly common in TX. When I heard this was in DFW, I immediately said to myself, “That makes sense.” There are so many Charlatans here. It was total culture shock for us fellow midwesterners who came here in 2016. It’s got us thinking of leaving the state and buying a business in a high trust society. There’s a reason the song “All of My Exes Live in Texas” exists. Sorry this happened to you, Josh. The Lord has big plans for you!