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I have not noticed any noise from the mic circuits. There is some room noise since it was recorded in my editing studio with a computer just behind the camera so when speaking at 12 inches some ambient noise is bound to be picked up. I am getting on a bit so your ears are probably more sensitive then mine ! Thanks for your input.

That's very helpful to know. Thanks for sharing your experience with all three mica.

I have not had the opportunity to try the 414 but by all accounts it is a great and versatile mic. Thanks for your comment.

Yes, Baifeily seem to have surprised everyone with the quality of their recent mics. I have only tried the V5 but that meets all my needs for narration. Thanks for subscribing.

I am still blown away by the Baifeili V5. The more I use it the more I like it on my spoken voice.

@@delcanvideoproductions4895 GREAT YOUR VIDEOS MASTER, THE SOUND IS GOOD, SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH I DONT SPEAK

Thanks for your comment.

@layonBacelar Sorry I have never used the 10.

Thanks.

Pleased our reviews were helpful to you. Thanks.

A naked V-Lock battery will 'just' fit in the battery compartment but there would be no room for a connector. A V-Lock mounted on a battery plate, which you would presumably need to get a D-Tap connection. would not fit in the battery pocket - but you could, of course, put your V-Lock battery with plate in the second compartment of the bag if you do not need it for other kit. The Mix Pre series takes up less than half the depth of the main compartment so that may be an option unless you are using a different, deeper mixer.

Thank you for your very full comments. As you say, my review is quite limited in its scope - it was not intended to be a teardown or technical analysis or an assessment of the mic's suitability for different voices or instruments. It is quite 'coloured' which is its attraction for me - you pick a mic that produces the sound you want for the voice or instrument you are recording. The acoustics of a venue will of course affect any recording on any mic at any price depending on polar pattern and placement, as will the preamps used. May be someone will take it apart and do a more technical review. For me it suits my purpose and my voice for general studio narration - and for the price, well worth a go !

@@chrisdelcan2757 Roger all points understood - Maybe I am expecting too much! IT IS a good demo and proves your point. I did give it a thumbs up! Happy trails to you. Thanks for the helpful reply. TRJ

What??????! He want him to do a teardown of a microphone he actually got to use and was helpful enough to put up a review on RUclips? Why don't you do that! 😅😂

@@ramspencer5492 Because I don't have time to waste. The original criticism stands unanswered. TRJ

414 25mm is electret capsule with a transformer circuit like the AudioTechnica. The C414 34mm has a single sided K87 type capsule with a Schoeps CMC circuit style.

Thanks for your kind words. I had almost forgotten about this one !

Thanks. Yes the Rode sounds a little bit flat in comparison with the V5 which adds a bit of 'musicality' to my voice.

I have not experienced a problem from physical noise from the bag - but the mic is usually a couple of meters away. The rings are held tight on the Velcro straps, the main strap clips are not metal so don't clink. I don't unzip the zips when recording. The Zipper tabs are quite small so have not caused a problem for me. There is nothing obviously annoying but I guess it depends how you are using it - running and holding a mic in your hand you would probably hear something. [ Sorry, I don't have a quiet K-tek bag to compare it with].

Thank you for your support and kind remarks : x50 plays, that's some viewing ! I will try to do more videos comparing different microphones. Unfortunately I no longer have a budget preamp to try with this mic. You will need a preamp or mixer that can deliver full 48v phantom power. The SoundDevices MixPre3 used for this has a very flat, uncoloured output, so what you hear is quite an accurate representation of 'this' mic's characteristics on my voice. My V5 has a nice warm sound but I don't know how much variation in tonal characteristics there is likely to be between different V5 mics at this price. Hope this helps. ... AND I would say with at least 66db of gain since I need about 57db gain for my quiet narration.

Thanks Mark, much appreciated - a sub from the master !

Thanks for your comment and support. The more I use this mic the more I like it on my voice !

Pleased it was useful - the Sachtler bag took some finding since it was not well advertised. (my comment here about the mic was about my Baifeili v5 review posted here by mistake !)

Thought so. I liked the gentle but thorough style of your review. Pretty rare on RUclips, and appreciated. @@delcanvideoproductions4895

Thanks. I'm pleased it was useful. If you don't have the Rode NT2A you can hear my voice samples on audio.com : audio.com/chris-delcan/audio/1a-mic-oh2-compare-short The Rode is at at 3:00 to 3:34 and from 5:29 to 6:44.

Yes it is very warm and smooth - just what I was looking for, thanks to Mark Yoshimoto Nemcoff's review.

Thanks for your comments, much appreciated. I have not had a problem with interference from other equipment or power bricks in practice - just something to be aware of in case it happens. I have found that if you hold the mic in your hand the hum drains off - it only occurs when the mic is in the stand and you put your hand/finger on the plastic window. It also drains off if you touch the bare XLR shell. But under normal use hum has not occurred. I have just put it close to my bank of power adaptors in the shock mount to check but no hum was picked up.

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Hi Jen, Thanks for your kind comment.

I was doing the same after seeing Mark's review but nothing appeared so I took the plunge ! It's a very interesting sounding mic that you can use to create different resonances at different distances - I'm still experimenting with that.

@@delcanvideoproductions4895​​⁠also as you mentioned in your video, Mark’s voice even makes the mic sound better. I wish I had that voice too hahaha

Yes, he is a top notch voice-over artist with a string of big name credits.

Yes, it becomes an obsession ! I have a vintage AKG D202 cardioid 'hand held' barrel mic (the sky rocket) which is a dynamic mic with a treble and a separate bass capsule underneath the treble. The bass capsule is vented via a tube down the inside of the barrel to vents near the XLR so you can use it close up without getting an over-emphasised bass. They were used by BBC radio in the 1960's and 70's but are now quite scarce.

Thanks. I was surprised that the only reviews were from Mark Yoshimoto Nemcoff since I think the mic came out in the early summer of 2023. I hope they will clarify the specs just for the record but in reality it sounds fine and there is no hiss audible on my voice pieces.

Thanks. I hope you enjoy using this mic - it is just that bit different and more 'musical' on my spoken voice as well.

How is it?

Thanks for your appreciation. Much appreciated.

It’s to do with signal polarity.. asymmetrical waveforms sound different on headphones depending on the polarity..

Yes, I have had to simulate the sound you would hear if you were listening to your own voice live through closed back headphones in order to illustrate the effect here. You will not normally notice much / any difference when phase is flipped if you are listening through monitor speakers because the sound waves will bounce around the room and arrive at your ears at different times so it is only really noticeable on headphones in my experience. Some voices produce a waveform which sounds more different when the phase is switched. Not everyone will hear the difference - so if you don't hear it it is not a problem !

​@@delcanvideoproductions4895 So you had to "...simulate the sound you would hear if you were listening to your own voice live through closed back headphones in order to illustrate the effect here" to hear the low cut filter at 160 hz😂At 5:20 / 11:27 the deep frequency is damped when you press the HPF. You say the opposite. You homegrown gibberish shows you got imagination... But perhaps you should cut a little down on the weed.

@@m.i.andersen8167 Hello M.I. The simulation is not very good - just intended to give an impression of the inverse of what you would expect to hear. If you do not notice a difference when doing this and listening to your own voice live in closed back headphones it is not something you need to bother about.

The capsules? They are cheap as hell compared to the lavalier mics they are used in lol

@@athmaid In rode they use cheap capsules I managed to track them to alibaba

Thanks for your interest. Did you notice any difference when you flipped the phase of the Primo 272 ? It seems to be more noticeable on some voices but less on others.

@@delcanvideoproductions4895 I've not been able to find how to change it on my MixPre 6 II, I guess you need to buy a plug-in? I'd still like to try this, very interesting! Thank you for your reply

@@sr3d-microphones The Phase switch on the Mix Pre is on the channel fader screen. Press the fader knob and then the second dot to get to the second screen and Phase button is at the top right showing Normal or Invert.

@@delcanvideoproductions4895 Thanks very much, I will try this tomorrow when I'm back in the workshop! Ive had the MixPre for a little while but don't really know my way round the menu yet

@@delcanvideoproductions4895 Thank you I found the option, really quite easy! anyway, it did make a difference, but, when in stereo and switching the first channel it was deeper, then when switching the second channel to invert it thinned back out again, although I was using a true binaural microphone, so I'm not sure if this is only for binaural as Ive not checked it yet, or, it copuld be simply ion stereo it cancels out, both channels inverted sound like normal phasing, but only one channel it does make a big difference. When Ive more time I will play with this.

Thanks for your feedback. I hope the review was useful. These small Sachtler bags don't seem to be very well advertised so I was pleased I came across it.

Hi Justin, Thanks for that. I could not figure out why flipping the -ve phase mic output produced a different more rounded and open sound, when phase reversal should not have made any difference. So this is why it changes the sound ! I'm really grateful for your explanation. Thanks.

Thanks for that - it went against everything I knew. Not the first time, nor the last, that less-than-perfect real-life components have offered potentially useful 'flaws' !

Hi Andrew, Thank you for your feedback. There are two distinct things here - one as you say, is when you listen to yourself live through headphones, where the mic sound interacts with the 'natural' sound in your head - the other is the lesser known phenomenon of a negative phase signal sounding different when you listen to the recording afterwards. There is no obvious reason why a negative phase signal from a single microphone (with no other mics plugged in) should sound different from a normal positive phase signal when you listen on playback to the recording through headphones - but they do often sound significantly different. The negative phase output is often quite stony and harsh, whereas when flipped to positive the sound is much fuller and more rounded. I have demonstrated this many times with different mics. The difference is only noticeable when listening to the recording on headphones where the sound is being received directly and separately by your ears. There is no significant difference if you listen on monitor speakers - I suspect because the sound is bounced around the room space so is not hitting the eardrums as pure separate signals. But why does a negative phase signal sound different on headphones ? The most likely reason is where the recording produces an asymmetrical waveform - many male voices (mine !), brass and strings often produce an asymmetrical waveform and it is probably this that accounts for the audible change in the 'tone' of the mic - although I am not sure why. A few weeks ago I came across a users guide note from AEA about the Coles 4038 ribbon mic, which talks about capturing sound in the opposite phase from the back of the mic and that flipping the phase of the signal from an asymmetrical waveform (eg some voice, drums, bass and plucked strings) changes the sound which, it says, can't be corrected fully by EQ. It says : " If you change the polarity of these [asymmetrical] signals it tends to sound as if you made an EQ change. However, if you try to EQ back to the original sound, you never can get it back. Thus it is a good idea to to watch polarity in microphones, cables, electronics and speakers. " So there is some authority on this phenomenon, which does not yet seem to be explained by sound science. At the end of the day it is what you actually hear that counts - science is only a way of trying to explain natural phenomenon. Have a look at my more recent video covering this and listen to the sound samples on good closed back headphones. - and do some tests yourself. If you can't hear the difference it is not something you need worry about. ruclips.net/video/dx3bYoL3MZ0/видео.html

Hi Andrew, We now have a useful technical explanation from Justin who says (Sept 13 2022) Justin • 5 days ago "The differences in the signal you're hearing when inverting negative phase to positive phase, is due to FET leakage. In the common 2-wire (negative phase) configuration, incoming FET current leakage from (+V) Drain to Gate goes through the gate's high impedance and the capsule's -mV signal output (dips) are unaffected. The FET leakage in opposite direction, when the capsule outputs a high +mV signal, a small diode amount of voltage leaks out to Source and rolls off the peaks. When you invert this signal into positive phase, the dips and rolled off peaks are inverted, so the peaks become more pronounced. -Doug Ford, audio design electrical engineer, explains it a little bit at the end of EEVblog #611 Electret Microphone Design."

Hi, Sorry for the delay in responding. The sound from these mics / capsules was not processed - no noise reduction applied and no EQ, so you can hear the actual sound that the mics produce. The Primo mics are incredibly low noise. Another capsules I have since found is the PUI 5024L which is very low noise (80db) and has a nice warm rounded sound if tht is what you are after. (Also try inverting the phase !!)

Sorry I missed this when you posted. No, there is no post processing except where I say I have flipped the phase in the edit. These mic capsules are super quiet in terms of self noise but with fairly high sensitivity for the sound you are recording.

@@delcanvideoproductions4895 Thank U!

Wow, thank you!

Do not connect it to an XLR - the 48 volts will blow the capsule. It needs about 5 volts only. You could convert it to a 2 wire capsule by shorting the source to ground (as at 1'30") and then plug it in to the 3.5mm input on your MixPre3 - set up to have Aux as Mic input. (The Aux input set to Mic delivers about 5v to drive the capsule). The power and the signal will then be on the same wire - connect to the tip of the TRS). This will increase the sensitivity of the capsule by about 10db and it will reverse the phase (which you can flip to 'Invert' back to positive on the MiX Pre3 for the channel you are using). Or you could make a 48v drop down to 5v adapter if you know how to do that (Google it).

@@delcanvideoproductions4895 ok thank you

When I flip the phase at 2.35 there is a difference in the sound. I don't know whether that is because this mic is a 3 wire capsule wired as a 2 wire, which alters the output route on the FET amp in the capsule - but there is a difference on the recording. It is more pronounced when the mic is closer to the sound source. I have run several tests and the difference is discernible on playback, not just when self monitoring live. No real explanation for this since, as you say, phase cancellation can only occur with 2 mics on the same sound source. Thanks for your input.

Yes, that is the only explanation - important to know that listening to yourself live can give you a totally different sound - a problem if you are applying EQ. Thanks for your useful comment.

​@@delcanvideoproductions4895 I could hear a difference when you swiched them.

@@fitnessboss Thanks for that confirmation. It's not just me then ! Some people can't tell - it is less evident on loudspeakers because the room scatters the sound waves. I always like to have the correct phase when editing and adjusting EQ wearing headphones in order to get the final sound I want. I was surprised that this is not a well known phenomenon.

​@@chrisdelcan2757 Was waring M50s so might have been that headphones ability to pick it up better than say a phone speaker. Also this video was great exactly what I was looking for. These capsules seem like good value for the quality. Why pay $150 for a road lav mic?

Thank you for your kind comments. I hope to do a short piece comparing other lapel mics shortly.

@@chrisdelcan2757 good news! Thank you!

Thank you for your kind remarks. Much appreciated. The differences are quite subtle but important to people wishing to get the best audio possible without spending a fortune.

Yes, this capsule is very good if used correctly. Thanks for your comment and interest.