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Nemesis is very luck dependent and doesnt have ways to mitigate that luck, also the only reason it have high scores is because famous pais youtubers recommend it

A lot of your ”critiques" seem to be more about the people you play with and not necessarily the games themselves, although you seem to blame the game. Yes, design can mitigate some of these factors, but often those personal choices are the point. Try playing with others. I didn't want to say anything without watching your whole video, but you come off as bitter in the most dull way. I can see a glimmer of potential in your channel, but you are not there... Additionally, doing top 15 because everyone else does 10 and you want to be different is...lame, try harder.

110% agree with you on Wavelength. After 3 plays the arbitrary-ness of setting the scoring marker as the clue giver made the game feel totally pointless. It's fun for a few laughs but that's it. I returned it the next week.

我最喜歡的CATAN桌遊！

Another way of telling that you do not like party games or social/semi coop games

Cards against humanity smh.

Wingspan, everdell, and root.

Interesting list as you have some of my favourites on there, including my best of all time in 1980 (has not aged well), and some games where I completely agree!

Regarding #5 "Reading is hard. *wahhh*" 👶😢 --- I love this game. Ameritrash all the way! 😁

Knizia's best card game for two players is Battle Line without a doubt. Also Glasgow is an awesome and criminally overlooked gem of a two player game.

Whats the problem with Targi? Targi is great!

I agree with nemesis

I agree that micro macro isn’t a game but rather a jigsaw puzzle. I liked the 3 star puzzles but fail hard at the 4 star. But extremely well made and impressed by the product. The list of overrated games is too long to post here. Perhaps I should make my own video series. Practically all Kickstarter projects I backed.

Magic the gathering = The person who spends the most $ is most likely the winner. The #1 reason I stopped playing trading card games and went into board games is because of this. I'm not wealthy and can't spend hundreds on decks every couple of months when a new set comes out.

Yes. Thank you. Cards Against Humanity is the WORST game that EVERYONE wants to play when I've been at parties.

I really don't get Meadow. Absolutely prefer two player Wingspan to it.

I dislike player elimination. It’s no fun being the first to go.

Some interesting ones, but agree with most of them and definitely no.1 is a stand out, agree!

Hard disagree on Spirit Island being overrated. The game is basically a sandbox where a playgroup can self balance their experience. You can pick harder spirits if you find it easy, or pick easier ones if you find it hard. Use different adversaries or none at all, same with scenarios. Play with some hugely synergistic spirit combos, or ones which seem to make no sense. The game has so many ways to tailor your experience. That also leads to huge replay value. Calling it overrated because you aren't into coop board games/ have different tastes in game complexity you enjoy makes little sense to me. It just hurts to think that people might see this video and think "oh, maybe I won't try this game after all if it's overrated". My bias as a fan of this game is showing though, of course. A few other notes. Imo, you're leaning a bit too hard toward algorithmic content slop with a video like this - long and a bit lacking in nuance with clickbait tile. Would be excusable if it was more entertaining, but right now it's just a bit too dry. In the end, way too long and slow for what it's worth.

I've been really wanting to get War Chest.

I love seeing the NASCAR Champions game on the top shelf.

Great list, I agree with a lot of your choices. I enjoy Mandala, Dale of Merchants, Hats and Skulk Hallow for 2 players. Fugutive sounds interesting. 😊

Great video!

Nice video, very interesting opinions. A little bit of feedback: There's an audience for pretty much everything and just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean it's popularity should be lowered (there are a few things that are universally bad, but of course those wouldn't even make anyone's list), so the use of the word 'overrated' kinda implies everyone else is rating those games higher than they should, which doesn't paint you in a good light and invites negative engagement. Specially when you really don't give compelling reasons on why the game should be rated less than they actually are (come on, you not enjoying cooperating with other people is not a good enough reason to say a game should be rated lower, that's a 'you' limitation).

amazing video, a small note, please stop moving forward and backward, it is a bit annoying for the viewer

Magic the gathering is one of my favorite games. I would never ruin that by playing competitively.

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1000% agree with Janela's #1. I love the theme, but you can't really develop a strategy.

I and my gf almost completed micro macro and I didn't even notice the creases lol, it made 0 impact on the gameplay

How is Catan not on the list...

Nemesis is totally over rated. If you removed all the theme and presentation of the game, you'd be left with a very poorly designed and just not fun to play game at all. The fact that you have the bag at your disposal as a tool to manage how an when aliens will pop and allow the queen to drop on turn one is just lazy game design. So stupid.

I like Hive, more than Chess myself

Codenames Gloomhaven The Mind Wingspan

You’ve both got a long way to go with your critiques towards board games and being a board game channel in general. While you’re completely allowed to have your opinions, not liking a game because it’s “creepy” or “it’s not the 2nd best game of all time” really aren’t arguments at all. Where’s the nuance?

New to your channel and love it! Blood on the Clocktower is one of my favorite games, so I'm going to have to disagree with you about it being "just like werewolf", because I think everyone having abilities really helps the game and makes it more fun for everyone playing. I do agree with you that is SUPER EXPENSIVE.

I think you call this episode “gsm s we don’t really enjoy”. Most of these should not be overrated as a lot are classics or great games!

T2R Europe is all about routes to win. The trick is to use your stations by baiting opponents to block you and then BAM! Deploy a station, and they've helped you complete a route. (I'm a T2R Europe fan as it's the game that got me into the modern era of board games)

There are 2 board games that for me are a league above the rest. 3 place isn't even close to those 2... and they're both on your list (Spirit Island and Blood on the Clocktower)

After watching your top 10 games of all time, I can see why you guys chose these games. To each their own, honestly. Janela sounds like she likes light rules and theme, while Michael likes mid to heavy games.

Wingspan is so easy to spam, its rubbish really. Long live Wyrmspan, far better game.

I hate that people can’t just play the games they enjoy, why hate on the things that other people like? Board games can be such an incredible medium we should try to bring new players in by telling them how awesome games are. Nothing is worse then seeing someone with a growing interest in board games and that one friend kills that passion by telling them the intro games like ticket to ride or catan or even monopoly that they have been playing actually suck.

It needs to be bashed xD

Lists are always subjective and as long as you can justify it for yourself, fair play. The only 1 I thought was odd was Magic, you both seemed to be approaching it like people who take up cycling and immediately want to get a 2 grand bike and all the gear rather than just going for or a leisurely cycle with friends. Again though, you are competitive minded and I am more co-op 😂 Thanks for your views

i disagree only on 2 games wingspan and GWT,, come on! wingspan is a really good game sometimes u just need a cozyish board game and GWT is also great,youre right u really need to compete on those special character (cowboy engineer carpenter?) tho the only thing i hate about it is the finish line mechanics i feel like players has to much control to end the game. i didnt know about micro macro winning an award! now i hate it its not a game its activity and its paper! overpriced game indeed

It feels reassuring to know that someone shares my thoughts.

I am in agreement with The Quest for Eldorado. I was really excited to play it because so many people said that they really liked it. It was a decent game but way to simple and basic for how hyped it is IMHO.

As to boardgames, to each their own. 😅

Wingspan and Spirit Island are great picks for this list! Definitely give Cosmic Encounter another go with a different group. It is player dependent but it's a timeless classic and fantastic with the correct group.

Sorry it has been so long. I hope you guys enjoyed this! Let us know what list we should do next.

Any new videos coming soon?