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Membership Meeting - November 2024 - Oh, Gs: Photographing the Pennsy’s Legacy Around New York
A native of the Bronx, Oren B. Helbok presents “Oh, Gs: Photographing the Pennsy’s Legacy Around New York, 1973-1983”. Beginning as an eight-year-old and continuing until the week that he left for college, Oren photographed GG1s working for Amtrak and NJTransit (and in one case Conrail), mostly on the mainline between Penn Station in Manhattan and Rahway and on the branch to South Amboy. Originally captured on 35mm Plus-X and Tri-X, few of the images ever got printed; only in the digital age has Oren gone back through his archive and worked on them. More than forty years after the last G pulled a train, he hopes that you too will think of at least a couple of the photos as unearthed treas...
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Membership Meeting - October 2024 - CNJ, Elizabeth to Raritan
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At our October meeting, we were joined by Tom Nemeth, Editor of Railpace Newsmagazine and longtime friend of Tri-State. Nemeth has been a prolific photographer and his presentation will focus on the CNJ mainline between Elizabeth and Raritan. The CNJ mainline was among the earliest rail lines constructed in New Jersey. It grew to be multiple tracks and host to numerous daily through freights an...
Membership Meeting - September 2024 - Exploring the Railroads of Northern New Jersey
Просмотров 4422 месяца назад
Longtime Tri-State member, Mitch Dakelman, presented EXPLORING THE RAILROADS OF NORTHERN NEW JERSEY. His presentation encompasses the iron mining story in Morris County, from the 19th Century through the 1950s, as the Mount Hope Mine was one of the last. Dairy farms prevailed in Sussex County, providing business to the DL&W, and travel to Lake Hopatcong via the CNJ and DL&W. Among the railroads...
Membership Meeting - June 2024 - Northeast Corridor in NJ
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David Alff’s new book, The Northeast Corridor, is a history of America’s most important railroad, and the region it has defined for almost 200 years. The book explores through words, photographs, blueprints, and diagrams how trains transformed an arch of Atlantic shoreline into a world political capital and global financial hub, and home to over fifty million people. This presentation focuses o...
Membership Meeting - May 2024 - Tracing the O&W
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27 years ago, Pete Putman and his son Ross set off to explore the remnants of the New York Ontario & Western Railway. Starting in Cornwall, New York, they traveled westward as far as Cadosia and made a separate side trip from Summitville to Kingston, photographing the old right of way, bridges, tunnels, and station sites. This presentation shows what they found, 40 years after the O&W shut down...
Membership Meeting - March 2024 - Just a Short Line: Stories & Anecdotes
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The Rahway Valley Railroad was a colorful short line that operated in northern New Jersey for much of the last century. For the past several years, author and historian (and Tri-State President) Richie King has been researching and collecting everything he can about this little railroad. In an effort to share what has been found, Tri-State is hosting occasional programs on the Rahway Valley Rai...
Membership Meeting - April 2024 - Night Photography with Steve Barry
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Railfan & Railroad editor Steve Barry joined us for the April meeting. He presented his journey in railroad night photography - from group night sessions with Jim Boyd to synchronized flash.
Membership Meeting - February 2024 - Down the Line with Dr. Lenny: NJ's Transformational Years
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Dr. Leonard Kaplonski was born in Newark, New Jersey in 1948. Growing up near the PRR Main Line, he developed a lifelong interest in trains, and particularly in photographing what was around him. After leaving New Jersey to pursue a medical degree, he arrived back on the scene in 1976 to capture one of the most significant changes in the railroad industry to date - the creation of Conrail. Betw...
Membership Meeting - January 2024 - NJ's Up-and-Coming Rail Photographers
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For decades, New Jersey has played host to a myriad of photographers, who have a passion for the railroads that crisscross the state. Those names have included Carstens, Collins, Furler, Krause, Mainey, and many more. Today, a new generation is taking up the torch. They’re dedicated and ambitious in their pursuits of capturing New Jersey’s railroad happenings through their lenses. At our Januar...
Membership Meeting - December 2023 - The Erie's Orange Branch
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The December meeting featured a look at the Erie Railroad’s Orange Branch, part of the Erie’s New York & Greenwood Lake Division. Presenter Bill McKelvey grew up along the Orange Branch and provided us with a unique perspective of this unique rail line’s history and operations, including during the days of the Erie, E-L, and Conrail. McKelvey is the Chairman of the Liberty Historic Railway, whi...
Membership Meeting - November 2023 - Yesterday, Today, & Tomorrow on the L&HR
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The November meeting featured a presentation by Warwick, NY native and current Trainmaster, Alan Held, on the long and storied history of the L&HR. Mr. Held discussed the early history, operations, and motive power, as well as current operations on the former bridge line. Located in picturesque Warren, Sussex, and Orange Counties, the Lehigh & Hudson River was a Class I carrier with major haula...
Membership Meeting - October 2023 - The Kid From Freeville
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Danny Armitage grew up in Freeville, NY where two branches of the Lehigh Valley Railroad crossed. From the age of 5 he hung out at the freight station behind his house getting to know all of the trainmen. This led to an unusual childhood of literally growing up on the railroad. From 1963 until the mid-1980s he rode the locomotives and cabooses over 400 times and was accepted by the crews as one...
Membership Meeting - September 2023 - CNJ Night at Tri-State
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For the September meeting, we were joined by long-time a long-time Tri-Stater, Frank Reilly. He worked for the Central Railroad of New Jersey, and will took us on a tour from the Jersey City roundhouse to the coal mines of Pennsylvania, and everything in-between. Frank started working for the CNJ in early 1966 and as a railfan he always had his camera with him. He even convinced management to l...
Hoboken Manufacturers No. 700 GE 44-Tonner Startup & Test Run
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Hear that rumble? Hoboken Manufacturers No. 700 is back and running! With the help of Precision Locomotive, we've begun working out some bugs that developed in the several years the locomotive was idle. Today 700 rolled out of the United Railroad Historical Society of NJ's shop at Boonton Yard for the first time since we purchased it last year. As was the case when we acquired the locomotive, o...
Membership Meeting - June 2023 - Grey, Maroon, & Yellow
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The June meetingfeatured a presentation by past president Mike Del Vecchio. He chose a couple of repaints and restorations near and dear to the club. First is NS 1700, repainted in its original as-delivered livery as part of Norfolk Southern's 30th Anniversary festivities. The 1700 would appear daily at Bayway where Del Vecchio could take many pictures of it. Next is a presentation about Tri-St...
Membership Meeting - May 2023 - L&HR and Susie-Q
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Membership Meeting - May 2023 - L&HR and Susie-Q
Membership Meeting - April 2023 - Railroads of Lake Hopatcong
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Membership Meeting - April 2023 - Railroads of Lake Hopatcong
Just a Short Line - The Story of the Rahway Valley Railroad - Tour the Railroad
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Just a Short Line - The Story of the Rahway Valley Railroad - Tour the Railroad
Membership Meeting - March 2023 - Steve Barry's Favorite Photos of 2022
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Membership Meeting - March 2023 - Steve Barry's Favorite Photos of 2022
Membership Meeting - February 2023 - Rails from the Air
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Membership Meeting - February 2023 - Rails from the Air
Membership Meeting - January 2023 - Railroads of Picatinny Arsenal
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Membership Meeting - January 2023 - Railroads of Picatinny Arsenal
Just a Short Line - The Story of the Rahway Valley Railroad - Locomotives & Equipment
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Just a Short Line - The Story of the Rahway Valley Railroad - Locomotives & Equipment
Membership Meeting - December 2022 - Tri-State's First President
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Membership Meeting - December 2022 - Tri-State's First President
Membership Meeting - November 2022 - Rise & Fall of the Raritan River Part II
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Membership Meeting - November 2022 - Rise & Fall of the Raritan River Part II
Just a Short Line - The Story of the Rahway Valley Railroad - Best Photo Finds
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Just a Short Line - The Story of the Rahway Valley Railroad - Best Photo Finds
Membership Meeting - October 2022 - The Lackawanna Cut-Off
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Membership Meeting - October 2022 - The Lackawanna Cut-Off
Membership Meeting - September 2022 - Lehigh Valley Across New Jersey
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Membership Meeting - September 2022 - Lehigh Valley Across New Jersey
Membership Meeting - August 2022 - The Susie-Q, East to West
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Membership Meeting - August 2022 - The Susie-Q, East to West
Membership Meeting - June 2022 - Just a Short-Line Man: The Story of George A. Clark
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Membership Meeting - June 2022 - Just a Short-Line Man: The Story of George A. Clark
Membership Meeting - May 2022 - Steam Trains of Yesteryear: Monadnock, Steamtown & Northern Story
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Membership Meeting - May 2022 - Steam Trains of Yesteryear: Monadnock, Steamtown & Northern Story

Комментарии

  • @dougow3061
    @dougow3061 3 дня назад

    great video

  • @norbkowa
    @norbkowa Месяц назад

    Hello I would like to know if anybody knows what is happening on old CNJ line in Cranford. WHen you drive GSP North and look towards the bridge you can see new sidings and rails are being installed behind the plastics company that was a customer and was getting train load until about 10 years ago. It was all overgrown but now its cleared up and new work is being done. I was just wondering what are they doing there?

  • @HenrikSweden1
    @HenrikSweden1 Месяц назад

    great video ! love that Tony / red baron scheme on the engines. Thanks !

  • @charlespaterson9714
    @charlespaterson9714 Месяц назад

    I grew up in Cranford and spent hours up on the passenger platform watching the freight and passenger runs go by. That was when they had 6 tracks although I rarely saw them use the outer tracks for anything but the Scoot.

  • @v8pilot
    @v8pilot 3 месяца назад

    I lived in NJ 1982-4 and one of my great regrets is that I never got to see what was then left of the RVRR. However, my O-scale line has a Thomas 2-8-0 numbered "13" and two passenger cars built from Railchief kits and lettered "Rahway Valley".

  • @mark07027
    @mark07027 3 месяца назад

    Great stories, particularly those about Garwood my little town at 33 minutes.

  • @mister_fjk1972
    @mister_fjk1972 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for sharing this great presentation covering the phenomenal photos by Donald W. Furler -> and thanks for Collins (aka Hoffman's) Curve "steam-era" pictures. I lived in Waldwick in the early sixties and fondly remember the many trains passing through the famous S curve. In particular, on hot summer nights with my window open, I remember hearing the diesel locomotives hi-revving to make the grade out of Ho-Ho-Kus with their freight trains.

  • @Westerner78
    @Westerner78 4 месяца назад

    Brick Church? One of the major stops ! Restricted too. Unless the dispatcher ordered it. No passengers on the Morristown Electric line could ride it., You could if you had a Blairstown ticket. Plus Lackawanna was all about New Jersey NOT New York City. It was very heavy loading at New Jersey stations to go to and from the west! The business was from New Jersey suburbs west. Newark was heavy loading from Pennsylvania RR passengers from the south. It saved hours going west , not to have to go to NY first! Then up around the Hudson River at Albany on the NYC or south to Philly and west on the Pennsy!

  • @gaildrumm4082
    @gaildrumm4082 5 месяцев назад

    Fun! I got to do a bus trip through many of these sights! Thanks

  • @HenrikSweden1
    @HenrikSweden1 5 месяцев назад

    great stories !

  • @CGRLCDR
    @CGRLCDR 6 месяцев назад

    Good show. Thanks for sharing.

  • @christopherbuckley94
    @christopherbuckley94 6 месяцев назад

    Jump ahead to about 7 minutes for start of program.

  • @tact86
    @tact86 7 месяцев назад

    What a great video. I grew up in Riverdale with the Greenwood Lake branch just beyond our back fence. We moved there in 1957 when there were still a few mid day trains and the local freight. When the sand trains were running it was a real thrill seeing f7's in an ABBA set pulling south past our yard. When the big wreck occurred a huge crane passed by southbound, I assumened it was routed via the NYS&W to Pompton Junction. Great days for a young railfan. The book is great and this presentation adds to it.

  • @wabisabi6875
    @wabisabi6875 8 месяцев назад

    One suggestion for the host or speaker: please repeat questions from the audience.

  • @wabisabi6875
    @wabisabi6875 8 месяцев назад

    I enjoyed this and several other of your lectures. The early photos are amazing. Thanks for sharing!

  • @tact86
    @tact86 8 месяцев назад

    I just stumbled on this. What a great video. I grew up in Riverdale with the Erie's Greenwoood Lake branch in my back yard. It did not take me too long to discover Pompton Junction and the Susquanna. My friends and I sometimes walked to Pompton Lakes via the Erie and NYS&W tracks, hoping for a train. Seeing and hearing 5 rs 1's passing by Federal Hill was also a great thrill. Standing at the crossing near the Pompton Lakes station the first time we Saw the GP 18's was a great surprise.n Thanks for bringing back some great memories.

    • @dougow3061
      @dougow3061 5 месяцев назад

      grew up in pompton plains in the 1960.s then lived in Riverdale 35 yrs spent alot to time along the greenwood lake branch passenger trains and frieght

  • @wabisabi6875
    @wabisabi6875 8 месяцев назад

    Nice photos and presentation, thanks for sharing! Are there any photos of the roundhouse? coal tower?

  • @kenmeluso1952
    @kenmeluso1952 9 месяцев назад

    Great presentation. Thank you.

  • @TeddyChefD
    @TeddyChefD 9 месяцев назад

    Awesome presentation! Thanks for sharing it!

  • @stevehanlon7627
    @stevehanlon7627 9 месяцев назад

    watched this last night live, the interpretation of the images giving them a place within the overall context of the moment, great storytelling. thank you.

  • @EdisonRailfanner
    @EdisonRailfanner 9 месяцев назад

    Is that a GG1 I see?

  • @davidhomer1638
    @davidhomer1638 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for including these photographers in your programming!

  • @vincentzablocki4930
    @vincentzablocki4930 10 месяцев назад

    The CSX local on the Newburgh branch is approaching the crossing on Route 300 in Vail's Gate. Good stuff ! Thank you for posting this. Be well, VZ

  • @paullacotta5645
    @paullacotta5645 10 месяцев назад

    Funny coincidence: last summer I was getting orthotics at West Orange and I see the end of this line was at back of the parking lot of the building I was in.

  • @dougow3061
    @dougow3061 11 месяцев назад

    great video i am a erie fan grew up in pompton plains one block from the greenwood lake line spent hours at the pompton plains station during the 1960"s

  • @mikedc3
    @mikedc3 11 месяцев назад

    Great!!

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 Год назад

    Thank you for sharing.👍

  • @fakecumberland
    @fakecumberland Год назад

    Great presentation, but we need to revisit the pronunciation of ‘Appalachian.’ Signed, an Appalachian.

  • @rfalcone
    @rfalcone Год назад

    The old timers called it the "L&H." Sterling presentation, Alan!!

  • @matthewbunnell4461
    @matthewbunnell4461 Год назад

    A little birdie told me you worked for Hawk Drilling in Jersey for a bit. Let me know if I'm wrong. I grew up I'm Union down the street from the "trussell"

  • @terrancealexander5621
    @terrancealexander5621 Год назад

    I really enjoyed this program to the point I could listen to it all over again. I was a model railroaded from my earlier teams up to the present and belonged to the Cayuga Valley Modell R R Club, which used the Leigh Valley as their prototype. Freewill spike my interest having a 5 sided station and an angled "y". I did get a chance to photograph it before it was removed although my photos have disappeared over time. But, I did get to enjoy a piece of railroad history. I never worked for a railroad directly, but I did work for ALCO in management.

  • @charlespaterson9714
    @charlespaterson9714 Год назад

    Fantastic stories. Yeah, how kids were raised back then was a different life. We were too busy being scared by Communist Take Over and Atomic Bombs. Although there were enough stories about strangers to be wary of, for the most part, we weren't afraid of the world in general like they are today.

  • @charliefass
    @charliefass Год назад

    What an amazing story. Reminds me somewhat of my experience hanging around the Harlem Division of the NYC back in the 1960s. I, too, was planning on working on the railroad, but being nearsighted, I knew I would be rejected due to that fact, so I never applied.

  • @fantailspringdale
    @fantailspringdale Год назад

    Perhaps some energy should be made to restore the Train Sheds at the Central Railroad Terminal in Jersey City before they are lost forever.

  • @HORIINKO
    @HORIINKO Год назад

    HI! My name is Jason Fennimore. I am writing a book, not so much on 'the Cut-Off', but all of the shady stuff that is going on around it. Circumstances have also forced me to start a local newspaper called 'The Northwest Jersey Times', which (hopefully) will be in print early next year. As you know we don't currently have a real local paper. I will try and be brief, but I don't think I can be..... Some of, if not most of those kids on dirt bikes that you talk about at 13:35 have been repeatedly exposed to Toxic Waste on the Cut-Off. In February (2023) I was riding my bicycle on Byram Trail in Byram, NJ. I got to the top of the hill and cut across the 'Cut-Off' (and through a thick fog) to Brooklyn Road. I rode about a half-hour away and got violently ill, started to lose my vision and almost went blind. I felt like I was going to die. It took me many weeks to realize what had happened. It turns out that there is a Superfund Site in Byram on the side of the 'Cut-Off' and Toxic Waste runoff has been spilling onto the 'Cut-Off' since at least the seventies. In the "Waltz & Reese Cut". The 'Cut-Off' in that section is so polluted with Toxic Waste that there is no way they can ever clean it up. It is so polluted with Toxic Waste that you can see the pollution from outer space. Check out page 101 of 162 (figure 4 Plume Map) in this EPA report.... semspub.epa.gov/work/02/541229.pdf I realized after getting poisoned that all of those kids on dirt bikes on the Cut-Off were being exposed to lethal Toxic Waste. Chuck Walsh is an evil person that knows all of this and suppresses this information. Chuck Walsh's Cut-Off grift is over. I made 240 signs, laminated them and stapled them to trees all along the Cut-Off. These signs say "Warning Dirt Bikers" and show the EPA's maps that show where the toxic waste on the 'Cut-Off' is. Also some of these signs have a picture of "Choo-Choo" Chuck Walsh and it has his contact info and tells everyone how he knows that kids are getting poisoned on the Cut-Off and doesn't care. If you don't believe me, take a walk on the 'Cut-Off'. I must have put 10 or 20 signs on the track (and connecting trails) right behind Greendell Station. Go look. I don't know any of you but I would like to think the best of people I don't know. I am trying to get this information out in any way I can. Now that I have stopped the Dirt Bikers from riding through the Toxic Waste by putting up the signs, I am notifying the public as I think the dirt biking kids' parents would like to know they are splashing around in Toxic Waste runoff. Please keep this comment public. It won't look good if you don't. Ask Chuck. I have been posting this in the comments of "Choo-Choo" Chuck's RUclips page all year. He suppresses the information. Go look at those signs on the 'Cut-Off'. Do you think that's a good look? By the time I am done with Chuck, he won't be able to show his face in Northwest New Jersey. You have to understand that Chuck is a very bad person and he did all of this to himself. I have proof of Chuck committing serious crimes. I told him that I was going to report him to the authorities and coincidentally (?) he took his family on vacation... a short drive from the Mexican Border. For real. He stopped making RUclips videos and nobody knew where he went. Watch his latest video. He talks about his abrupt disappearance and tries to explain it. Please keep this comment public as I don't want to make more signs. Those 3 'disconnected tracks' "Choo-Choo" Chuck talks about at 1:30:50,... one of those disconnections is a road. The other gap is because NJ Transit is so shady that they stopped the tracks on 1 side of the 'Toxic Distal Plume' and then started the tracks back up on the other side of it. This whole operation is sloppy. They are so incompetent, they can't even do criminality correctly. When I was laminating the signs at the main Sussex County Library in Newton, I was also making copies of the first draft of my book to send to my publisher. One of the librarians was reading the draft. She said; "You know what I think? I think they all hate you because you caught them all red-handed!!"...... Librarians know what's up. By the way, you did a good job on that station! I like the little lights going across the roof. I would definitely go to that museum. I love local history. That is what the 'Cut-Off' is; history. They are never going to run trains on it again. I guarantee it. If you knew all I know, you would agree!

    • @donmoore7785
      @donmoore7785 4 месяца назад

      This was a very funny read. The people who just rehabilitated the Roseville Tunnel need the newsflash that there won't be any trains on the cutoff again. How is your newspaper circulation?

  • @nicholasmedovich8691
    @nicholasmedovich8691 Год назад

    The deaccessions to Steamtowns roster would be an ABSOLUTE blessing. Todays world. Be nice to reacquire a G5 pacific for Carbondale trips.

  • @charlespaterson9714
    @charlespaterson9714 Год назад

    As an interesting sidenote, there was a PSE trolley that ran up South Michigan Ave from Westfield Av(Rt 28) to Michigan Blvd (not sure where it terminated at). The trolley operated until approx1924 when it was shut down due to the conductor strike. The tracks remained in South Michigan Ave for another approx 10 years. Had your Milepost 0.87 photo been taken 10-20 years earlier, it would have captured the diamond where the Rahway Valley would have crossed the trolley line.

  • @leekramer6080
    @leekramer6080 Год назад

    I worked for tyburn when 400 was still in service! I remember when they had the one motor rebuilt. Took forever. Was under power with both engines for a little while until the traction motors went. She was a powerful bird!

  • @railnjpama
    @railnjpama Год назад

    Fantastic you guys wrote books!

  • @SteveRoberts5330
    @SteveRoberts5330 Год назад

    Fantastic presentation by Mr. Nemeth, especially with the stories and historical information! These recorded meetings are great for members like myself who can't make it across the river to visit. Thank you to Tri-State for all that you do!

  • @1990sRailfan
    @1990sRailfan Год назад

    Very nice! Thank you.

  • @kenmeluso1952
    @kenmeluso1952 Год назад

    Excellent presentation. Thank you

  • @SteveRoberts5330
    @SteveRoberts5330 Год назад

    Excited for this! I have been checking the page for weeks!!

  • @bezuglich
    @bezuglich Год назад

    Sorry, where's the thumbnail photo at the start - the doubleheader on the curve? As ever, I watch these two-three times - so much to see!

  • @wonderpotato
    @wonderpotato Год назад

    I know everywhere you talk about here even though I only just discovered the RVR a year ago by accident when I discovered on a bike ride in Roselle Park some abandoned overgrown tracks and did some online research and thereby discovered the RVR. I didn’t know there were small railroad operations like this and found it pretty fascinating. I mapped it out and rode my bike from Staten Island over the new Goethals Bridge bike/pedestrian path and along the entire route of the railroad from Roselle Park to Summit as well as the Newark branch. I love that you know so much and go into such detail about everything about RVR.

  • @KatherineCarlson-gs3hk
    @KatherineCarlson-gs3hk Год назад

    Wonderful presentation. Thank you David for your lifelong love of trains. Like you, the train was a big part of our growing up in Dansville. Best wishes to you, with fond memories, Kathy Shay Carlson

  • @megatrains
    @megatrains Год назад

    Great video!!! Ive been searching for months for old railfanning videos from South Plainfield. That's one of my favorite spots. That concrete phone booth in the picture around 16:35 in the video is still there but pushed into the brush next to that 3rd line that is gone now. I actually took some video of the phone booth and included it in a recent video I posted. I was wondering how old that was. Thanks again for all the great information. A lot of my videos are shot from the exact locations are your videos. Have a great weekend. And just subscribed!!

  • @dirtyjersey9093
    @dirtyjersey9093 Год назад

    Meadow road not mill road

  • @dirtyjersey9093
    @dirtyjersey9093 Год назад

    I live in Edison nj I see old tracks along the river from mill road and Edison boat docks all the way past silver lake ave where there’s an old train tressel which line was this where did it come and go? Also there’s a giant smoke stack still standing and large ruins of foundations between the docks and turnpike what was this building ? You can see the smoke stack on google maps still the ruins I can go take photographs of that will help

  • @jasonsudol4717
    @jasonsudol4717 Год назад

    Also in Hawthrone not everything is gone. There is a roundhouse still standing with and addition on it. Can be seen very well from google earth

    • @fbm314
      @fbm314 Год назад

      Where exactly can you see that in Hawthorne?

    • @jasonsudol4717
      @jasonsudol4717 Год назад

      @@fbm314 on google earth there is a building with solar panels on the roof, I believe that is Churchill furniture. Behind that building you will see a building that has two curved sides and has a addition off one side going in the direction of the side street. If you use the 3D version the the round house is currently red.