I've always believed that Kosh angered Sheridan on purpose. Kosh was less "traditional" than the rest of his race. He chooses to interfere because he sees that the younger can do better. He also knows for the war to really end the younger races have to learn self-reliance. So he making Sheridan stand up against him and other Vorlons so he can lead by example.Kosh is like a parent who pushes you to solve a problem because he knows you can and he cares.
Imagine if Aragorn called Gandalf a coward, that’s the kind of standoff we’re talking about here. Sheridan either had balls of steel or was just that desperate, or both.
Excellent! I've been looking for this clip where Kosh says "Yes, _now!"_ 3:44 "I will do as you ask. But there is a price to pay. I will not be there to help you when you go to Za'ha'dum." To which Sheridan says, "You already said if I go to Za'ha'dum I will die." "Yes, _now!"_
"Never Threaten a Man that has nothing left to Loose" if I learned anything from that scene at like 12years old it was that. Either way he knew he was dead, atleast this way everyone else had a chance.
When I saw this as a kid i immediately knew what Kosh meant. My father got involved with anime and fairy tales since i was small. I teared up at this scene. Kosh was really meant, if he helped him now, he wouldn't be able to save him later, cause Kosh knew he himself would be dead.
India is the vorlons and China is shadows they have been around before all the other races they will not fight each other instead get Russia to fight for them 👋India Pakistan and Afghanistan and Iran is the the same ethnicity same people only the three think they is a lost Arab tribe Iran can trace and locate all the carriers without them knowing let's see how things develop a lost Arab tribe Iran can trace and locate all the carriers without them knowing let's see how things develop 🤔
You know, when I read this title, I instantly thought of the phrase "Khas Naradah" or the such said by Zeratul in the original Starcraft 1. ruclips.net/video/LJTGm1D1GYs/видео.html Surprisingly, the word "Khas" in Khalani (Protoss Language) means "He who brings order" which is synonymous with Kosh here, being an alien attuned to Order. Looking at the context of which it is used, it means the one who brings order is ordered to do something, and thus with Zeratul getting it done with a simple mouse click, and then you have Kosh here which just won't budge until you annoy him much like clicking on Zeratul too much LOL :)
Many of the names used in B5 came from Lord of the Rings. "Kosh" is a word chanted by the orcs in Moria when the Balrog comes. Gandalf said it means "fire". And the mines of Moria, also known as Khazad-dûm (obvious source for Za'ha'dum). The Rangers, Lorien (Lothlorien), and this one is a slight stretch, Mr. Morden (Mordor).
Look here 😁 Jeffrey Willerth is an actor. Although the voice of Kosh was actor Ardwight Chamberlain, Willerth was the man in the encounter suit. He was born June 5, 1958. He and his former wife, Patricia Tallman have a son together; Julian Tallman.
The reason Kosh got so angry was because he was scared. He knew that once the Vorlons entered the fight he was going to be murdered by Morden and his Shadow puppeteers.
I wonder, could Kosh see future events? Did he suddenly see that by Sheridan going to Z'Ha'Dum, he would encounter Lorien? Kosh's final statement also implied he saw that Sheridan would finally see the truth of what happened to his wife.
In tabletop game. GM: "You are talking a God into helping you but he refuses and tells you to leave him alone. What do you do?" Paladin with a herocomplex, a deathwish, and absolute disregard for self preservation: "UP YOURS!!!"
You think Sinclair was epic when he basicaly CREATED the first ranger in the shadow war back in their time? Yea think again, Sheridan is multiple times as badass. He basicaly STOPED GOD from going anywhere UNTIL he got what he wanted.
The needs of the few out weight the needs of the many...DOes a superior intellect bow down to 3, 4, 5 worlds of people whotry to live inpeace? KOSH had a very sticky problem
In tabletop game. GM: "You are talking a God into helping you but he refuses and tells you to leave him alone. What do you do?" Paladin with a herocomplex, a deathwish, and absolute disregard for self preservation: "UP YOURS!!!"
you what he told them? “Lo, there do I see my father. Lo, there do I see my mother, and my sisters, and my brothers. Lo, there do I see the line of my people, Back to the beginning! Lo, they do call to me. They bid me take my place among them, In the halls of Valhalla! Where the brave may live forever!”
You see Kosh's "mind blown" moment when Sheridan says "maybe one more death will help balance out the books". We have so many cultural references about sacrificing ourselves with our short lives but how must it be to sacrifice yourself as an immortal being? Cool stuff.
I've always believed that Kosh angered Sheridan on purpose. Kosh was less "traditional" than the rest of his race. He chooses to interfere because he sees that the younger can do better. He also knows for the war to really end the younger races have to learn self-reliance. So he making Sheridan stand up against him and other Vorlons so he can lead by example.Kosh is like a parent who pushes you to solve a problem because he knows you can and he cares.
Imagine if Aragorn called Gandalf a coward, that’s the kind of standoff we’re talking about here. Sheridan either had balls of steel or was just that desperate, or both.
Das sind Freunde die sich miteinander anlegen. Sie sind sich uneins.
Kosh ... at that moment decided to die ... so was not available to stop Sheridan dying at Z'ha'dum, so instead had to rely on Lorien ...
"You do not understand..... But you will....". That was chilling...
"Put your money where your mouth is"
Excellent! I've been looking for this clip where Kosh says "Yes, _now!"_ 3:44 "I will do as you ask. But there is a price to pay. I will not be there to help you when you go to Za'ha'dum." To which Sheridan says, "You already said if I go to Za'ha'dum I will die." "Yes, _now!"_
"Never Threaten a Man that has nothing left to Loose" if I learned anything from that scene at like 12years old it was that. Either way he knew he was dead, atleast this way everyone else had a chance.
I appreciate Sheridan's defiance, my god "Leave now." "Up yours!"
When I saw this as a kid i immediately knew what Kosh meant. My father got involved with anime and fairy tales since i was small. I teared up at this scene. Kosh was really meant, if he helped him now, he wouldn't be able to save him later, cause Kosh knew he himself would be dead.
India is the vorlons and China is shadows they have been around before all the other races they will not fight each other instead get Russia to fight for them 👋India Pakistan and Afghanistan and Iran is the the same ethnicity same people only the three think they is a lost Arab tribe Iran can trace and locate all the carriers without them knowing let's see how things develop a lost Arab tribe Iran can trace and locate all the carriers without them knowing let's see how things develop 🤔
Great series 💯
You know, when I read this title, I instantly thought of the phrase "Khas Naradah" or the such said by Zeratul in the original Starcraft 1. ruclips.net/video/LJTGm1D1GYs/видео.html Surprisingly, the word "Khas" in Khalani (Protoss Language) means "He who brings order" which is synonymous with Kosh here, being an alien attuned to Order. Looking at the context of which it is used, it means the one who brings order is ordered to do something, and thus with Zeratul getting it done with a simple mouse click, and then you have Kosh here which just won't budge until you annoy him much like clicking on Zeratul too much LOL :)
Many of the names used in B5 came from Lord of the Rings. "Kosh" is a word chanted by the orcs in Moria when the Balrog comes. Gandalf said it means "fire". And the mines of Moria, also known as Khazad-dûm (obvious source for Za'ha'dum). The Rangers, Lorien (Lothlorien), and this one is a slight stretch, Mr. Morden (Mordor).
*cliks the gear to up this from one pixel res* .... ah one pixel res it is! Still important scene with Kosh!
The Poor-mans Arisian. And John is too frail, and not wise enough to even be fit for a Lens, let alone contribute to The Unit.
As shown in Passing Through Gethsemane, kosh is also afraid but ultimately accepts his fate.
There is always a price to pay😂😂
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Don't just do something ! Stand there !
I love this scene.
Kosh was with him at 🤓
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Arguing with Kosh is like arguing with Asian Dad…strict parenting.
Look here 😁 Jeffrey Willerth is an actor. Although the voice of Kosh was actor Ardwight Chamberlain, Willerth was the man in the encounter suit. He was born June 5, 1958. He and his former wife, Patricia Tallman have a son together; Julian Tallman.
I prefer the German voice actor and voice effects of Kosh [ ruclips.net/video/tILAnwIzLsI/видео.htmlsi=wZXX-7cJtyvlEfpQ ]
A more sophisticated species would have just stood there and let Sheridan rant until he collapsed from exhaustion.
DISOBEDIENT. Up yours!
The reason Kosh got so angry was because he was scared. He knew that once the Vorlons entered the fight he was going to be murdered by Morden and his Shadow puppeteers.
This ends the argument who is more powerful shadows or vorlons even kosh admitted the vorlons can't beat the shadows
It was also a numbers game I think the vorlons were at zero population growth for awhile and the shadow would reproduce between hibernating
Don't think Kirk said "Up yours!" to an Elder God even once.
Ben Sisko punched a god right in the face.
Hmmm...conflict making them stronger...they're kind of proving the Shadows' point here.
I wonder, could Kosh see future events? Did he suddenly see that by Sheridan going to Z'Ha'Dum, he would encounter Lorien? Kosh's final statement also implied he saw that Sheridan would finally see the truth of what happened to his wife.
In tabletop game. GM: "You are talking a God into helping you but he refuses and tells you to leave him alone. What do you do?" Paladin with a herocomplex, a deathwish, and absolute disregard for self preservation: "UP YOURS!!!"
I feel like you could quote almost this entire speech as a dnd paladin and it would be almost perfect. Maybe for a cleric as well
At 1:20 he refers to a "non-localised phenomenon". That's how Delenn described the soul.
When kosh narrowed his eye lens at Sheridan, as if to say , who do you think your talking to.? You knew he was in trouble 😅
Clearly the Vorlon equivalent of "What the fuck did you just say to me, you little bitch?!"
You think Sinclair was epic when he basicaly CREATED the first ranger in the shadow war back in their time? Yea think again, Sheridan is multiple times as badass. He basicaly STOPED GOD from going anywhere UNTIL he got what he wanted.
Love Bruce's performance in this scene.❤..
The needs of the few out weight the needs of the many...DOes a superior intellect bow down to 3, 4, 5 worlds of people whotry to live inpeace? KOSH had a very sticky problem
Frank Welker - Megatron's voice
Once again, he was deceptive, because part of him did go with sheridan to zhahadum😮
Bruce Boxleitner is magnificent in this scene. A true hero.
That's because he fights for the Users.
I love the alien costuming. It do's not look out dated.
You do not understand.
JYES
Obey the emperor's will
I love that his go to response to Kosh was "up yours".
Was that even possible? *no*
In tabletop game. GM: "You are talking a God into helping you but he refuses and tells you to leave him alone. What do you do?" Paladin with a herocomplex, a deathwish, and absolute disregard for self preservation: "UP YOURS!!!"
you what he told them? “Lo, there do I see my father. Lo, there do I see my mother, and my sisters, and my brothers. Lo, there do I see the line of my people, Back to the beginning! Lo, they do call to me. They bid me take my place among them, In the halls of Valhalla! Where the brave may live forever!”
4:35 Something like speaking in parables. Only if you are on the right path will you see something more than a story.
John Sheridan is my hero for all time ❤
Kosh may have roughed up Sheridan for backtalk, but he was probably thinking "I knew it, the kid's got it. That's my boy!"
You see Kosh's "mind blown" moment when Sheridan says "maybe one more death will help balance out the books". We have so many cultural references about sacrificing ourselves with our short lives but how must it be to sacrifice yourself as an immortal being? Cool stuff.
You DO NOT UNDERSTAND ... the most understated understatement ever ...