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OHIO BOBCATS 2024 MAC CHAMPIONS! Congrats Bobcat Corner!

Congratulations! Huge win for the Bobcats!

Congrats to you and your Bobcats!

Some of your thoughts are spot on and some not. The PAC12 has absolutely no interest in New Mexico State. The Mtn. West would be a much better fit. I think you are right about Sacramento State. The Montana schools could be valuable to the Mtn. West as a pair, breaking them up would be a mistake. Not so sure about North Dakota State and South Dakota State. They both have good football programs but the travel may be too much. Now about the PAC12, they can have all sorts of teams that are ready to jump. Adding numbers for the sake of numbers reduces their value for football contracts. Their best direction is a school that does not diminish their present status. The school they want is UNLV. They will do what is necessary to get the "Runnin' Rebels."

Congrats Bobcats!

nmsu has actually won bowl games in recent history unlike utep. And they have a historic basketball program. They make the most sense to join the MW.

“It matters more to trip over yourself.” lol. Spot on!

As a PSU fan - I'm rooting for Bowling Green. They played great when they visited Beaver Stadium early this season.

Great win for the Bobcats over Toledo!

See nothing against tarelton State. I haven't heard anything about that program. But tarelton just recently joined the FCS and have not made the FCS playoffs yet. Because they just joined. Their playoffs eligible this year. But NDSU has made the FCS playoffs every year since eligibility. And NDSU has won 9 of the last 11 national FCS championships. They are 9-1 in the national championship game. SDSU has won the last 2. NDSU is also 9-5 against FBS programs. They beat Kansas jayhawks, Kansas state wildcats, Iowa state cyclones, #13 Iowa Hawkeyes, Minnesota Golden gophers twice, Ball state, Central Michigan, Colorado State. They lost to Wyoming by a field goal. They lost to Colorado by 5 points this season. NDSU has alot of current active players in the NFL. NDSU is The face of MVFC along with SDSU. NDSU is the flagship of the FCS. Tarelton State may be good from what I heard But I say let tarelton state play against SDSU and NDSU and see how they really fair to 2 very good powerhouses or the Montana schools who are powerhouses as well. Let's see how they fair to those 4 programs because Tarelton State has not faced them yet. I only heard that they are good. But they never played these4 schools in the FCS. At least I know they haven't played NDSU and SDSU. Both NDSU and SDSU have won the last 11 FCS National Championships this decade. NDSU won it 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015 and then again in 2017, 2018, and 2019 and 2021. SDSU won it 2022 and 2023. And this year NDSU beat SDSU 13 to 9. While tarelton state may be beating teams by over 14 points a game. They never played SDSU or NDSU and their defenses are elite. Both have very good defenses. If Tarelton State can beat SDSU and NDSU then I say maybe they good enough to play in the FBS. But right now NDSU and SDSU are more ready for the move to the FBS. If MWC get a package deal for both NDSU and SDSU those 2 programs can be the face of the MWC. They both could put MWC in the CFP. And probably make deep runs in the the Playoffs. They could probably bring MWC a national championship to that conference. That's how good those 2 programs are. NDSU is a 5 star program. SDSU 4 star program but very close to being a 5 star program. They are about 4 and a half stars. One more playoff appearance this year and they would be considered a 5 star program. Which they have already clinched a playoff spot this year in the FCS. NDSU or both NDSU and SDSU are big wins for the MWC to add. While Tarelton State may be a good program and school and have everything they need to make a jump to FBS because they have the money to make the jump. They Still have alot to prove in the FCS. They play in a conference that FCS doesn't have listed for official records. NDSU and SDSU both play the MVFC which is the SEC version of the FCS and the Montana schools are in the big sky conference which is the big 10 version of the FCS. Tarelton does not play programs like NDSU and SDSU and Montana and Montana State year in and year out every year. Tarelton faces at best 3 to 2 star programs within their conference. The Montana schools are both 5 star programs. NDSU a 5 star program and SDSU basically a 5 star program. UIW is a 4 star program. Guess what? Sam Houston State that just recently joined the FBS lost to both NDSU and SDSU. Now yes they beat NDSU in 2022 to lose to SDSU in the national championship game. But NDSU has beat them twice in 2011, and 2012 for the national championship. And they beat them 2 more times before 2022 in the playoffs. Then you look at the coastal Carolina. NDSU beat them twice. And they are now FBS. James Madison. NDSU beat them 3 times and they beat NDSU twice. They are now FBS. Georgia Southern lost to NDSU twice in the playoffs. And they are now in the FBS. MO State who is joining next year in the FBS plays right now in the MVFC against NDSU this upcoming Saturday and lost to NDSU and lost to SDSU alot of times. But this year MO State is 8-2 overall and are 6-0 in conference play and NDSU is 9-1 overall and 6-0 in conference play. NDSU just has this game and next game left before they are done with their season until playoffs start. They win out and NDSU is #1 seed in the FCS playoffs. SDSU is 8-2 overall and 5-1 in conference play and USD is 7-2 overall and 5-1 in conference play and Illionis State is 7-3 overall and 4-2 in conference play. NDSU beat Illionis State this season. NDSU beat SDSU this season. The only 2 games remaining for NDSU is MO State and USD. NDSU plays MO State nov.16th and the following week against USD. But anyways what I'm trying to say is let Tarelton State establish themselves first in the FCS for a bit. At least for a couple of years and play in tougher conferences within the FCS. Like the MVFC or Big Sky. See how well they fair in those conferences. How many playoff runs they get consistently and how many national championship appearances they get. Because NDSU has 10 FCS National championship appearances and have 15 straight FCS playoff appearances since 2010. This year will be NDSU's 15th straight playoff appearance since 2010. NDSU is 43-4 in the fcs playoffs overall. 9 national FCS championships. 9-1 in the FCS championship game. NDSU has 10 MVFC conference championships. NDSU is well deserving of a FBS invite

Honestly North Dakota State would be a great add for MWC. They lost Boise State to pac12. NDSU could become the new face of the MWC and be the powerhouse for them. NDSU would definitely help draw interest for MWC to garner more prestige with CFB Playoffs.

Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware that NIU fans really want to go to the MWC. Why? OK, I suppose if all sports went it might be OK, but football only? If I'm NIU, a hard pass. I understand some clueless TV fool is behind this. OK, clueless TV fool, you want it, then find a way for ALL NIU sports to benefit. I get why the MAC should look east or perhaps south, if they lose NIU. Therefore, I might look at Eastern KY, Youngstown, or some of the Pennsylvania schools. Marshall of course, would be great!

Media companies agree go give conferences a set amount of cash on what they think the value for the teams currently in that conference. Adding more teams will most likely lower the payout per school. Same amount of pie but more slices equals lees money per school. This is why the PAC12 is doing things the way they are. Oregon St, WSU, BSU, SDSU, Gonzaga, & Fresno add the most media value. CSU adds the local market plus the are spending $$$ on their athletic budget & facilities. Utah St has good basket ball & football time to time. There are only two other schools out there that could possible add value to a media deal close to Oregon St, WSU, BSU, SDSU, Gonzaga, & Fresno. Memphis & Tulane are those two teams; next in line would be S. Florida & UTSA. If Memphis leaves then a couple of others may follow. They are waiting to see what the PAC can come up with in the Media discussions. I got the schools media values from a website that covers media deals & values. If none of those four end up leaving for the PAC12, I am certain that Texas State would be next on their list. For the teams currently aligned to be in the PAC in 2026 I have heard estimates to be 10-15 million. For the new MWC, 2-4 million. The PAC12 only wishes to build to 9-10 schools, for scheduling purposes and to keep the media payouts (per school) as high as possible.

Hopefully, after the PAC gets the media deals done you will get the invite. As a OSU Beaver fan, I would be happy to have Texas State join the PAC.

I think there still is a possibility that NIU could leave stop the MAC for the MWC. I just don't see any way that Toledo would join the MWC. That being said, I think all of these inquiries were to meet the demands of the other conferences in FBS. You can say that the mwc did not inquire it's almost every FBS opportunity they could possibly get. Which means adding FCS tools doesn't look so bad. I think Tarleton State and NDSU are the two top targets of the MWC. I think the main reason that the NIU talk has waned is having a difficult time finding a hole for the other sports. I could be wrong.

What are your thoughts on this now after what we heard today from Brett McMurphy and the likelihood of this still happening? Or do you think it’s more likely they reject and MWC moves on to NDSU or others?

The MAC is uniquely good at having a sensible footprint involving member programs that have a lot in common. Mid week football games notwithstanding, a lot of what happens is within driving distance and travel costs are relatively manageable. However, something has occurred to me as we look at possibilities for expansion. Down at the FCS level, the MVFC along with the MVC seem to have worked out the perfect system. The MVFC is football only, and that conference adds worthy football programs solely on the basis of the football program. Meanwhile, the MVC will add the Olympic sports if that makes sense and if not, they don't. They will also add worthy members that don't have a football program. The footprint of the MVFC and MVC pretty well aligns with where the MAC is at, and I think it would be foolish if the MAC didn't take a similar approach and simply replicate what's been done at the lower level. I do believe the MAC should make several additions in football only- SDSU, NDSU, and Northern Iowa (the other NIU). I don't think the conference should add any of them in all sports at any point. Additionally, if you can get the interest if either school, either Illinois St or Southern Illinois would also be good additions and that should happen in all sports. Northern Illinois is over here in the western portion of the conference trying to have a real rivalry with one of these Ohio programs, and that's not a long term solution. One more program from the state if Illinois would be a fantastic rivalry for NIU (Illinois), and Illinois St would probably be preferable on the whole. In terms of basketball focus, I do believe the MVC has done a great thing by getting Loyola of Chicago together with UIC. The city of Chicago has some of the highest density of elite basketball talent in the world, and it makes all the sense in the world to have two programs in the city within the same conference. The MAC should grab both of those programs and try to build a wall around that basketball talent. I do believe it would also make sense to add Dayton, but you want to hold off on pursuing their football program unless and until they join the MVFC, have real success there, and build a larger stadium while upgrading other facilities. It would also help if one or more current Ohio members of the MAC leave the conference, and that is entirely realistic. I think that's a good first step. I do realize the conference has 13 full members once UMass is in, and if I got all of what I just asked for, the conference would have 17 in football and 17 in Olympic sports. Those numbers are not great, so let's say I get 3 or the 4 that I asked for in each category. This is the general idea, though- take the best of the MVFC and add those football programs and only those football programs, and then generally speaking add Olympic sports only if the school is within your region. It does make a certain amount of sense to try and find travel partners for UMass, but let's be honest guys- I don't know if UMass is cut out for the FBS level. I do not know if that school is going to last as a MAC member in the long term.

If OU can play a full 60 minutes and not only play the first half like last week they should be fine

Muck Fiami. Go cats!!!

And just wait for when Gonzaga revives their football team

It would not make sense for NIU or Toledo to move to the Mountain West. The only way in which the money might be worth it is if they were joining a Power 4 conference, but those offers aren't going to be coming. Therefore, it is best for those schools to stay in the MAC.

Get Out of here!!!! This Video is Ridiculous 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gonzaga is a Huge Deal. UTEP is a Nothing Team that doesn't move the needle. They don't add Anything to the Prestige of the Mountain West. They are Not a Winning college Athletic Program. Adding UTEP just adds another Bottom Basement team to the Mountain West. This will Not help them in TV Negotiations. Gonzaga is Moving ALL of their Sports teams to the PAC they are Not a "Part time member" They are ALL in. They are Not a 1 Sport School!!!! So what that Gonzaga doesn't' have a Football program they are a Premier Basketball school. (UTEP doesn't compete at a High level in any Sport!!!) Gonzaga is a Top 10 National Basketball 🏀 program. Gonzaga will Help land the PAC 12 a National TV Contract. Gonzaga has been to the NCAA Basketball Tournament for 25 straight seasons. The ACC and the Big 12 have already said they are interested in playing the PAC 12 in Basketball 🏀 this is bringing in Big TV 💵 💰 money. This puts the PAC on ESPN, CBS, all of the Big TV Networks. Right now the CW is in Negotiations to get a National TV Contract in place with the PAC too. Your Analysis in this Video is Horrible!!!!

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I think New Mexico spoke with the president of the MW and ask not to offer a deal to NM State…

New Mexico State is an awesome fit to the MWC! New Mexico State is also a great fit for the PAC!

I am positive no AAC schools are going to join the PAC and definitely not the MWC. Also no MAC schools to PAC or MWC either. Now the MAC schools, some SBC schools, the Dakota schools and other FCS powerhouse schools in the central and eastern part of the country could or would show interest in the AAC. The Dakota schools and a few other FCS schools are definitely looking at the AAC. The MAC schools could be if networks allow and align with their value and quality.

The pac 12 / 6-7 has really shown how little a pac 12 education means. The mountain west threw you a life line, and a season agreement, you signed an agreement and promised not to poach then you poach and then you sue the mountain west. This is ego over common sense. The pac 2 should have just merged with the mountain west, not you going after lower schools to survive. God what a bunch of pin heads

NMSU is so close to UTEP...they share the same tv mnarket and recruitment area.....the MW wants to expand to diff. areas of texas for a greater media viewership and recruitment. NMSU and UNLV used to be great rivals but it's about making the MW into a more wider viewership and timezones so it helps the MW in tv contracts so they are available in multiple time zones. I like the idea of TARLETON ST so the MW is in the dallas-fort worth area. I also am intriged by Sam Houston State too.

if im memphis im asking for the same deal gonzaga got. full share without football, hoops only

Fun listen. You can improve the audio with a windscreen and pop filter for your mic.

Sacramento state and Hawaii were both pushing for pac 12 for football.

Walk off Home Run for the Pac and Gonzaga. The Pacs curb appeal improved greatly. If they can land Memphis, ka-boom !

The PAC 12 should ad Sac st ,Cal Poly, UC Davis, Portland St , San Diego and Eastern Wash

3:45 Gonzaga bolsters the Pacs profile a little ? lol This was a home run for the Pac.

MWC has 7 FBS schools. They need 8 and have a two year grace period to get to 8. A FCS school has a 2 year transition period until they are full FBS. So the MWC can invite one or more FBS school for 26. So the 26 and 27 seasons would be their two year grace periods. That coincides with the FCS schools two year transition period. So in 2028, the MWC would be a full FBS conference. So, they could add Sac St, Tarleton, the Montanas and Dakotas.

what about La Tech to the mw? wouldnt that expand the time zone which seems super important to tv deals

Texas State is no longer considering the MWC. Sam Houston State might be in play for the MWC. As well as Tarleton State.

Gonzaga's issue with the WCC wasn't competition at all. They have the best out of conference schedule each year and in conference St. Mary's. Gonzaga wanted money which is great for them. The addition of Gonzaga was hige for the PAC 12. Loom how many tournament teams from 2024 the PAC 12. Now just throw some money at Memphis and Witchita state and get some basketball going in a Western conference.. Memphis will help in football as well. Hell get Grand Canyon and St Mary's ober and have a basketball super conference. They will have a great presence in other spirts like baseball was well.

It was reported that Texas St informed the Sun Belt conference that is was NO longer considering joining the MWC, they did not say anything about the Pac 12 or AAC so I assume both are still talking to Texas State.

PAC12 is working on one or more AAC members and a TV deal. Gonzaga BB will be very attractive to those ends.

Revenue: Air Force (CO) $76,587,462 UNLV (NV) $64,243,413 Memphis (TN) $62,174,875 Wyoming (WY) $50,255,884 Hawaii (HI) $49,422,827 Nevada (NV) $47,946,637 Tulsa (OK) $47,406,950 New Mexico (NM) $44,881,065 North Texas (TX) $44,477,324 UC Davis (CA) $44,275,782 Utah State (UT) $43,157,838 Rice (TX) $42,350,198 South Alabama (AL) $39,119,983 San Jose State (CA) $39,030,222 UAB (AL) $38,351,074 UTSA (TX) $38,183,028 Texas State (TX) $37,288,587 Cal Poly (CA) $37,134,737 Sacramento State (CA) $35,893,960 Middle Tennessee (TN) $35,614,512 Western Kentucky (KY) $35,142,710 Tulane (LA) $34,183,387 Troy (AL) $33,355,524 UTEP (TX) $33,131,210 Louisiana (LA) $33,021,554 Arkansas State (AR) $32,376,515 North Dakota (ND) $30,859,877 New Mexico State (NM) $30,350,192 Missouri State (MO) $29,915,772 Illinois State (IL) $29,899,837 North Dakota State (ND) $29,295,443 Montana (MT) $28,970,312 San Diego (CA) $28,899,588 Louisiana Tech (LA) $28,693,958 Southern Miss (MS) $28,361,867 Montana State (MT) $26,410,575 Northern Arizona (AZ) $25,750,579 South Dakota State (SD) $25,570,541 Stephen F. Austin (TX) $23,217,377 Idaho (ID) $23,013,225 Northern Colorado (CO) $22,439,916 South Dakota (SD) $22,184,268 Northern Illinois (IL) $22,177,045 East Tennessee State (TN) $22,173,333 Sam Houston (TX) $21,690,534 Abilene Christian (TX) $21,201,476 Chattanooga (TN) $21,051,127 Jacksonville State (AL) $20,288,342

I don't think you have your story correct. The mountain west did not try to increase the poaching penalty. I have only heard the mountain West tried to increase the scheduling alliance fee, but that is all hearsay. The poaching penalty is firm and written into the contract.

SMH! ...this aged well..... UCONN vs. MAC LOL!... Uconn 47 Buffalo 3....Yeah Uconn is gonna give up Indy home games vs. Pitt, Syracuse, Wake Forest, NC St., Duke, UNC, Ole Miss, Maryland, Boston College, Boise St., Fresno St., Utah St., BYU, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue (plus Temple, Rice, UAB, USF, FAU, Army from it's former AAC), ...etc etc etc for a MAC schedule....right that will really help Uconn's home attendance($$$). Uconn has the national brand and cache to schedule home and homes with all these teams and has as an Indy. And is now bumping up FB NIL payouts alone to more than double the MAC receives in TV and Bowl payouts, SMH ! Join why ? because they need the MAC bowl tie-ins ? Be real!

Sac State to MWC!

Go UConn

MWC needs 2 Hawaii is football only

Good discussion. (Sorry we are late to the party)

Thx for the recap show - sorry for the disappointing result.

Couple notes, the MAC no longer sponsors men's soccer, so presumably uconn's soccer programs would remain in the Big East. Also, the Big East doesn't sponsor hockey. UConn plays in the Hockey East conference. I don't see any reason to split the programs. None of them offer any value outside of football and basketball, so there's no reason for the MAC to want them and UConn enjoys having their olympic sports in the Big East where half the conference is still relatively close by. I suppose there's some value in moving your football to the MAC, but it's not like it would be a huge step up in terms of money, exposure or recruiting from what they're currently doing. I think the MAC schools are getting somewhere in the ballpark of 1 million per year. UConn has their own football rights deal with cbssn for a couple hundred thousand, on top of the 7 million a year from the Big East basketball deal. I don't think it significantly improves their standing or gets them any closer to a power conference bid in the future.

A large number of UConn basketball fans would be exceptionally happy if UConn disbanded its football team or next best option moved to FCS. I know, I think that they're insane also, but I think that they truly believe it. With regard to your 9-9 plan, UConn should take that before the ink is dry on the offer. However, it makes no sense for the MAC. There is no benefit to the MAC from competing against UConn's track or cross country teams, among others. What would provide benefit to the MAC is UConn's basketball teams competing in MAC arenas.