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@@hypernucle Hey hyper! It’s great to see you man. Still working on projects? Much appreciated on the feedback, and keep up the good work!

@@30AndHatingIt He absolutely was underrated. Deserves the coverage for sure, he accomplished more than most folks care to remember. It’s unfortunate.

@@puuzaa Facts!! This is true championship fitness. Accept no substitute

@@ClumsyCardboard I need to tell this but i have bought one car from his car store when he was keeping it near my home village.. Car was Peugeot 205 1.9 gti(what else it could be😅) And also get to talk little with him because one of my friend was car fixer and worked for them.. He is really his feet in ground type of guy and likes to talk everyone!!🙂

@@puuzaa That’s awesome! And a good choice of car. Nice to hear that he is still sharing stories. I Wonder if he would ever come across this video.

@@jchayes7325 Thank you JC! It’s very hard to find anything bad to say about the guy regardless. Solid dude, solid driver. Very cool that you got to visit riverside raceway. It’s very unfortunate that the place is now one of those California mega malls. Very special track with a lot of cool history.

@ClumsyCardboard I've been a NASCAR fan since 1965 my first race was at Riverside International Raceway and I went there at least once a year until she closed in 1988 I've also been to Ontario Motor Speedway until it closed in 1980

His old man produced underground drilling machines.

@@ClumsyCardboard thanks, I’ve always wondered about this.

@@user-iz9mu1qj8e No problem! Glad I could help share a bit of his history.

Thank you jack!

"i cant mentally keep up with a moderate speaking pace"

@@539strt How do you know that “For a fact”? His contract due for renewal in 2002 or 2003. He already wanted out of a full time schedule anyway.

@@DarrenHaw Thank you Darren! I certainly believe he would’ve had at least one championship for sure. Several would’ve been also absolutely feasible. It’s also not hard to imagine a very successful RCR career, so another very good point there. Still, He’s been long overdue to be put into the hall of fame, so I’m glad he’s finally in! Makes me wonder who’s next to get in.

Damn good idea! I'll put em on the list.

@@ericjefferson9684 very true. There was a lot of weird miscues from officials back then. Robert black especially.

@@dwkulcsar thank you! I think this will be the format going forward.

It's hard not to like that paint, that's for sure. Even harder to dislike rudd!

@@strovich Thank you Strovich! Much appreciated. Keep up your good work also.

My apologies. I guess that's the Mandela effect that comes from JD Putting his name on as many cars in the field. Thank you!

@@ClumsyCardboard it happens. The only one I know for a fact he owned was the #2 car that was formerly owned by Rod Osterland.

Haha, i was starting to wonder if people thought i was dead! But yeah, A lot of life things happened again so i had to quash those before I could finish this up. Plus, I had to make sure I had the details right. Hopefully the new more.. "Clinical" format works. I didn't want to rely too much on footage this time. It's great to hear from ya!

@@ClumsyCardboard you too, man! Good to see ya again

@@nbnd3342 Born too late to see him drive in Group B, born just in time to pretend to race in Group B in his car in rally games!

@@tylermathis-kx7pu indeed he did! He credits a lot of it to Bobby Allison, and Dale earnhardts education too. He’s talked a bit about it, I recommend listening to his scene vault podcast interview if you want to learn a bit more! It’s pretty cool, as is the stories he shared there

But those who know, know! Occasionally people outside of Florida still recall him.

Whilst I'm sorry to hear you got messed around by him like that, I don't believe this is a apt summary in my opinion. How do you define success? Because that's not how he approached it. He put his ALL into everything, and didn't back down.. In fact, it was to the point that folks like Tim brewer (Just some guy, you know, only won championships with Cale Yarborough and Darrel Waltrip.. No big deal, nobody special obviously..) was annoyed with him NOT backing down enough. He gave it his all, not out of a need to create a justification to walk away from a purposefully wrecked car, but because he was an immense talented man who sometimes just didn't know the limits of a car. That's all. He was the winningest driver of 1986 for christs sake. That's from not just sheer tenacity, but good preparation too. And great feel. But above all? He wanted to prove one thing. As he says it best, "I wanted to prove to everyone that I was put on this earth to have fun.. I want to succeed at the fun department." And he did. Very much did. And his definition of fun is more than just being great in a stock car, but also just taking part in the periphery of racing in general. Including exhibition races for local short tracks. (Plenty of footage out there for stuff like that, do encourage you peep it out).

@@ClumsyCardboard .... Never said he didn't have success. My point was that guys like him can rise to great peaks, but they never sustain. Some of his earlier successes and opportunities, came from family wealth. Had it been strictly up to him, he wouldn't have had the same opportunities. He was propelled a certain distance, through the family bank account. That doesn't diminish his obvious talent, its just a fact.

@@scottrobinson9752 Ok? So his parents had money. Yes, But that was used to fund his early developing talents. Daddy's credit card didn't buy him a ride at Hendrick. Hell, I'm certain it didn't get him a spot at D.K Ulrich's operation, and he could've used the cash no doubt. And J.D Stacy already had his ill gotten gains funding his operation, so Tim's dad's money would've been no good to him. And even then, He had the chops to make it on merit and merit alone. If he had to work for the dough, he would've done so to pay up for that Sprint car ride. And about sustaining.. Did you forget the fact Tim died? 1987 would've been a real contention, if not championship victory outright. If not then, '88. Buddy holly didn't set the world on fire in the 1960s because he died in a plane crash in '59. Otherwise he would've no doubt succeeded and sustained. Sterling marlin didn't sustain after his 2002 cup title bout because of personal ailments. Otherwise that would've been his trophy. Again, it's about perspective.

@@user-fu1ss4eo6c They were great friends since at least ‘82. Dale knew what was actually wrong with Tim, but there was only so much he could do for him.

@@mikaelbihl-matias9462 I never thought about it that way.. pretty apt example!

@@mitchcolburn1216 That’s a very valid summary. Honestly I agree, and that’s why it was unfortunately the only real chance he had at getting more than 2 wins during a season. I wish Bob Whitcomb had more cash on hand, or at least bigger sponsorship deals even on short term.

It's hard not to like him!

@@JOHANNESwhoelse I certainly hope so. The current indycar series is a very good package, but personalities will help sell it even more

I'd say a pretty successful career all in.

The 1997 Primestar 500 at Alanta. Same year that Mike skinner went full time for the first time in cup, I believe.

@ClumsyCardboard Yeah he did. Some nice looking cars that year. Interesting drivers too

@@TimberWolfer63 A true era of personalities, colourful paint schemes and characters

Perhaps that was the real backstory to him all along! Haha. From group B champ, to store owner!

DW, especially in recent years, came to appreciate the new fan base Tim brought into the sport.

With all due respect to both, I also think Robby would have kicked his ass

He really was. Truly an inspiration for similar reasons for me personally as well. Making the most of life is a very good sentiment to take away from all this

If I did only use Tim’s race cars and footage for every single segment, it would only be a handful of clips that would be repeated. To prevent that, and to add context of both his competition and the era he competed in, occasionally you would see other people’s races, cars, and individuals. It wasn’t perfect, especially given this was my second ever video project, but nonetheless something that thankfully hasn’t been as much of an issue going forward. Hopefully that makes sense.

I didn’t even realize there was a autobiography, let alone read it. Do you know where I could buy a copy?

@@ClumsyCardboard Im sorry I meant biography - The book by David Poole. It was a really awesome and quick read.

@@phelpsmarc No problem! I’ll have a look and get a copy. Thanks for letting me know!

And always did it his way.

But they still put together some very memorable races and moments in spite of that.

Interesting how Ken squire called him "the young man from spannaway washington" back in 1990, when he was 32. That's unheard of today, but was far more common back then.

I had figured I might've fumbled that. Thank you for the correction!

I could watch it a million times, never get tired of it. I also found out recently that the ice cream on pit road scene actually happened. I think it was between Harry Hyde and Geoff bodine back then, but I could be slightly misremembering