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Chloe Eastwood
Добавлен 29 мар 2016
Public historian, book-lover, writer, cat enthusiast.
A Few Thoughts Inspired by Shawna the Mom
Since as long as I can remember, I have heard really scary stories about being a parent. Shawna the Mom's videos fall squarely into that category, but there's something so authentic about them I can't help but watch her content whenever she comes out with something new. This video hit differently, and I'm here to unpack my feelings.
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My Links:
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Instagram: chloeeastwood9
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Angel Dust: a Case Study in Substance Use Disorder Part 1/3
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Angel Dust can be a very challenging character to understand, but the struggles he represents are very well conveyed. This video analysis goes over all the things this show does right when it comes to substance use disorder. My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9
Why Penelope and Odysseus Work as a Couple
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I've been thinking about adaptations of these ancient Greek stories into modern media for modern audiences and this thought occurred to me: out of all the relationships in these stories, there's really only one "goals" couple I consistently see portrayed. Let's talk about why. My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9
Paratext in Hazbin Hotel: or, what the Medrano Controversy Reveals about Charlie Morningstar
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Commenters, this one is for you. We've had some good talks about paratext in the comments, so I figured I would make a full video on the topic. I hope you enjoy! My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9
Alastor: a Hazbin Hotel Character Analysis (part 4 of 4)
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The final installment of my Alastor series, though I'm already scripting some endnotes, so go ahead and follow if you haven't already. My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9
Alastor: a Hazbin Hotel Character Analysis (part 3 of 4)
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I got to thinking about Alastor and weeks later, this was made. Stay tuned for the last video in the series. My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9
Alastor: a Hazbin Hotel Character Analysis (part 2 of 4)
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I got to thinking about Alastor and weeks later, this was made. Stay tuned for the next two in the series. My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9
Alastor: a Hazbin Hotel Character Analysis (part 1 of 4)
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I got to thinking about Alastor and weeks later, this was made. Stay tuned for the next three in the series. My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9
The Most Important Line in Hazbin Hotel
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Just a little thing I noticed about one of the lines and its implications on the rest of the show. I hope you enjoy! My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9
Hell's Greatest Dad: What the Song Means and how the Song Works
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0:00 Introduction 1:19 Lucifer's Offer 3:48 Alastor's Counteroffer 5:18 Final Arguments 8:27 Charlie's Choice 10:48 The Song is a Lie 15:28 Alastor's Motivations 19:19 Conclusion I first found Hazbin Hotel through the fan media surrounding it. I got sucked in, found my new ear worm, and set to work analyzing the soundtrack. Little did I know that the next seven weeks would be dedicated to one s...
Smithsonian (6/20) - Renwick
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My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9 Thoughts from the craft museum
Smithsonian (5/20) - National Zoological Park
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My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9 One of my favorite things to do at the zoo is look for behaviors I recognize from the domesticated animals I'm used to (pets, livestock, and humans). This visit made me think about sneaker males and one of my friends' social strategy.
TBR 2024 - All the Books I Want to Read
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Some of these books have been on my list for years! I'm going to try and get through these by the end of 2024, and I'm curious what books you want to read, too. My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9
Gender Performance
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What if our genders weren't just the roles we filled but the intention to do so? My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9 Sources: Reby, D., Levréro, F., Gustafsson, E. et al. Sex stereotypes influence adults’ perception of babies’ cries. BMC Psychol 4, 19 (2016). doi.org/10.1186/s40359-016-0123-6
Travelogue - New York, or On the Bathroom Question
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My Links: Ko-fi: Ko-fi.com/chloeeastwood Instagram: chloeeastwood9 On Labor Day, I went up to NYC to visit my friend. We discovered some very interesting things about the city planning.
Smithsonian Interlude - What the two Museums of the American Indian Reveal about our Sense of Place
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Smithsonian Interlude - What the two Museums of the American Indian Reveal about our Sense of Place
Smithsonian (3/20) - National Museum of the American Indian NYC
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Smithsonian (3/20) - National Museum of the American Indian NYC
Smithsonian (2/20) - National Museum of the American Indian DC
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Smithsonian (2/20) - National Museum of the American Indian DC
Smithsonian (1/20) - National Air and Space Museum
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Smithsonian (1/20) - National Air and Space Museum
Travelogue - Japan, or On the Wealth of Nations
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Travelogue - Japan, or On the Wealth of Nations
Adapting Ancient Heroism for Modern Audiences in The Song of Achilles
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Adapting Ancient Heroism for Modern Audiences in The Song of Achilles
The Affirming Magical Gay Love of Jude Weatherbourne
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The Affirming Magical Gay Love of Jude Weatherbourne
Red White and Royal Blue: How Queer People Consume Media
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Red White and Royal Blue: How Queer People Consume Media
Paradigm Shifts: or, An Argument for Technocracy
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Paradigm Shifts: or, An Argument for Technocracy
I have not finished watching video yet but I immediately subscribed! I thoroughly enjoy your insightful commentary on a show I've grown to love, especially because your detailed explanations, such as the definitions and examples you gave at the beginning, help me to understand Hazbin Hotel better, while also expanding my vocabulary in the process (I'm French, so improving my English while learning new things about my current interests is always a plus). I've always been impressed by people who can understand pieces of literature and media more than I ever could and I aspire to learn more from you. Thank you very much for all the effort you've put in your videos and I'm looking forward to hear more of your commentaries, whether on Hazbin Hotel or on other topics!
Thank you so much for saying so! It's so nice to hear that you like my media analysis videos. They're some of my favorite to make.
Actually, I just had a follow-up thought. I've just written a video about zeugmas, a literary device we have in English that works for us specifically because a lot of our verbs have multiple meanings and because we have, generally speaking, less structure to our conjugation. It won't be out for another month or two, but when it does come out, I would LOVE to hear whether there's anything like this in French. I find the literary devices that are invented for each language to be so interesting, and I'd love to learn from you, too.
@@chloeeastwood6696 You're very welcome! I am by no mean a literary expert and I had to check the meaning of zeugma again to remind myself which literary device it is, but I do remember that we also have zeugmas in French (they are either called "zeugma" just like in English or "zeugme"), but they may be less common. I recently graduated from High School and we barely mentioned zeugmas in my French class, probably because our teachers thought it would not be as useful to conduct text analyses, unlike other more prominent literary devices in French literature, such as ellipses or hyperboles. Actually, I write short stories in English for myself and I probably use a lot of zeugmas without realizing, whereas I probably don't use them as often when I write in French. It might be because French conjugation and grammar are more complex than the English ones, although I may be biased since I have always found English easier and more straightforward. And, as you said, a lot of verbs in English have multiple meanings. I reckon some French verbs can have several meanings as well, but they are not as plentiful. It is probably not the best explanation and a language expert would most certainly give you a much better insight on the differences between these two languages, but I'm still elated to share my point of view on this topic with you!
@yumiisnotmyrealname4835 Are you kidding? That was amazing! Thank you for your thoughts, and I really appreciate your insight. How interesting that you write in both English and French! How do you decide which language to choose? I would imagine some ideas are easier to articulate in one language, but I'm not personally bilingual.
@@chloeeastwood6696 Thank you so much again! You made my night! As for the language I choose to write in, it usually depends on what I need to write. I love using English when I write fictional stories because it allows me to practice and to occasionally slip in new words I have learned. On a side note, I started to write stories revolving around the characters of Hazbin Hotel to explore their characteristics and since I watch the show in English, it's easier for me to stick to their speech patterns when I use that language. Conversely, I tend to use French when I want to express my thoughts on a specific topic, especially when it requires specific terms or to express more complex ideas and when it refers to my personal experiences. Using two languages in different ways actually helps me to dissociate the two types of writing I've been practicing, but maybe I could try to switch it up someday ( i.e. write fiction in French and make a whole essay on why I relate to X character in English)! So you're asolutely right, depending on one's personal tastes, some ideas will be easier to express in one's native language than in the second language and conversely.
I don't know about that, if you look at his shadow which shows his true feelings, his shadow was very excited to take on Adam. Maybe he was starved after making that shield and his mind was addled by hunger. Also Zestial said that the rumor was that he fell TO holy arms, meaning that he would have been DEAD dead. Maybe he had to make a deal to recover from being mortally wounded by holy weapons, although you'd think he would have been more careful about facing Adam.
Note how he doesn't drop the deal until right after he's become absolutely sure that Charlie doesn't know that angels aren't invincible. He knows that it's unlikely that she knows, but he's still smart enough to first receive verbal confirmation from Charlie that she thinks angels are invincible.
When Sir Pentious ripped his coat I believe that foreshadowed his loss against Adam. He let his guard down. Toyed with Adam like he toyed with Sir Pentious. Though he took down Sir Pentious more efficiently in the pilot because he wanted to show off to his new housemates.
I don't think his initial rise to power was fueled by a contract or voodoo powers, at least not entirely. He wouldn't have been the first to have that sort of opportunity after all. Rather I think it was an opportunity he got from the use of radio technology which was novel to Hell and could be used to outwit the less clever of the older overlords. He's very much a brains over brawn kind of fighter and tends to underestimate foes such as Adam that he views as intellectually inferior even if they are much stronger than him, while he respects the ones such as Zestial whom he views as an intellectual equal. When H.G. Wells' novel War of the Worlds was read out loud as a radio broadcast listeners literally thought that it was news coverage of an actual alien invasion. Knowing that imagine the kinds of tricks Alastor could play on the denizens of Hell to make himself seem more powerful than he actually is. A fake it till you make it strategy if you will. But eventually technology progressed and in order to keep up with that level of power Alastor knew he would have to make some kind of deal so after his failure to defeat the Vees he went on his 7 year "sabbatical" during which he made a deal and trained in the use of some new powers, fully expecting he would be clever enough to weasel out of the deal somehow of course. Interestingly his dislike of modern technology is never portrayed as a weakness. First of all, he is shown to be skilled with making a video using a digital camera, and he seems to know quite a bit of modern tech lingo and has understanding of how Vox's technology works. Secondly Vox's technology is shown to hypnotize and brainwash its users so that the viewer gets the distinct impression that Alastor is smart for avoiding it. I suspect Vaggie's deal with him is going to bite her in the ass when he turns out to be able to easily defeat Vox but refuses to do anytime about it unless Vaggie makes a different kind of deal with him.
GREAT video! I'm a psych professional, have a masters and currently working on a phd, lots of treatment experience and personal life experience. thank you so much for your thoughtful and educated explanation of SUD. I've seen some pretty terrible takes on Angel's character. I also have some sw experience and am a survivor of DV and SA. I think this character is an excellent representation of all of these, including the part where he's not an "ideal" victim. He makes bad decisions, he does things that people judge him for, and we see how this affects people's perception of the abuse he suffers and his mental health disorders. You mentioned how he blames himself and it's clear other characters and other real life human viewers do too. This makes it so much harder to report abuse and recover from harmful coping techniques like SUD. I plan to rewatch this video, probably right now, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the series. thank you SO MUCH for providing some commentary on Angel and SUD that's actually useful and factual!! you're so right too how the substances even help you forget about the problems with using substances. the way the brain and these chemicals work really optimizes it to be as difficult as possible to quit. i love that in the show, just like in real life, having his basic needs met, being given a social network that includes people who accept him, and ways to feel productive without exploitation like helping with Niffty and Sir Pentious, leads to Angel's recovery. i have so much to say on this topic! I loved your alastor videos so thank you for not disappointing me with your approach to this difficult topic. i was like, no, i just found this creator, please don't mess it up! lol the opposite happened and I'm a bigger fan now! can't wait to see more!
Thank you so much for the incredible work you do and thank you for the affirmation. It means a lot, coming from a professional. I'm really glad you liked it and I'm excited, too, for the other parts. :)
Laying my cards on the table. Angle Dust has never been my favorite. So you can tell me i am a little biased against him. One of my major problems and many others is the context that the porn industry is portrayed in. In it of itself there is nothing wrong with telling a story about a sex worker or adult film actor being exploited, abused or inslaved. It is a real world problem and these stories should be out there. Especially a story that is sympathetic to the victim. Showing the cycle of abuse, how hard it can be to get help. The way that victim blaming and shamming traps people in bad situations. The way the Husk reaches out, not by saying “we can fix this” or “it will get better”. Husk says don’t blame yourself, you are not the only one who has made mistakes and ended up in a low place. It is all very good stuff. However this type of storyline can add to the negative perception of the industry. More knowledgeable and talented people than i have made essays specifically about angle dust and the porn industry. The sort version is that most of this criticism will disappear if they show other sex workers and or adult film actors in heathy relationships with their boss and work life. I know that the world building leans to one person controlling an entire industry. I feel like it wouldn’t be too word breaking to have a small indi studio. Small enough that Vox hardly notices but has a healthy work culture. There are a lot of misunderstandings of angle. There are some issues with the way Medrano and crew frame their story. I hope my explanation was comprehensive enough to make sense. Again other people can explain this way better.
I am not saying you personally. It is just a common reson people dislike angle or how he is written. I can tell you that i find him kind of annoying and wouldn’t necessarily want to spend a lot of time with that kind of guy if he were a person in my life. That is a me thing. The more substantive complaint is that Medrano needs to nile down how to handle theming some nuanced issues.
Omg that's so funny because he's one of my favorites. Probably #3, but top 5 for sure. I can't convince anyone to like him, though, and I won't try. All I can do is talk about the cool things done with him, and I happen to know a lot more about SUD recovery than sex work. I'm surprised to hear you call Valentino’s studio "the entire industry," though. In episode 4, Angel Dust says he won a SeXXX award over Tiffay Titfucker, who I assumed was a rival from another studio. I guess, strictly speaking, we don't know either way, but I'd be surprised if they were healthy places to work. At the end of the day, this is still Hell, and that doesn't reflect on the porn industry.
@@chloeeastwood6696 it is part of the some of the world building of the over lords. They are supposed to be robber barrens with monopolies. Vertical and horizontal integration but probably with more murder and torcher in hell to stamp out anyone else trying. Medrano does not like capitalism. It has been stated in the past that Valentino was supposed to be the head of the entire port industry in hell. I don’t know if Medrano has since back tracked on that. I am hoping he is just the largest by far and there are some smaller studios. It was how a lot of overlords were supposed to be. Val being one if not the first in hell to start making and distributing this content. He is said to have died while the industry on earth was getting profitable. Like Vox and later Velvet being trend setters partially because of the exact timing of the their deaths. Being one of the first with the initiative and knowledge to get the industry started when they got to hell. I guess it is not said in as many words…. As for Tiffany. I mean sometimes the oscars nominated two films from the same big studio in the same category. In animation specifically there is sometime two monies from Disney up for best animated feature. I would imagine there have been times where two or more candidates in the best actor or beat actress were working on different films from the same studio. I don’t really follow the best actor access category, i am real bad with names and faces. We don’t know that much about the sexxx awards, there are probably categories and criteria. Instead of an actor from different studios it is an actor from every franchise? I don’t know. This not an industry i know a ton about. And i don’t think i want to know what kind of nomination process Medrano dreamed up.
@@chloeeastwood6696 as for likability angel is popular. I don’t have any polls just being in the Hazbin reddit page. He is popular. I think it is a part of why people like me have to be a bit defensive and repeat “in my opinion”. He isn’t as popular as Alistor but he beats charlie, nifty and husk. I forgot to mention in the earlier post the world choice in the song. Lute calls angle a crack whore referring to crack cocain. (Spelling?) but we see him using powder. They have the same effect but the method is different and the minority association is different. And the law is different. I don’t know how intentional this was for the writing but it feels like lute wanted to use the most stigmatized words to describe Angle.
This is such a good video. Truly, thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you for the lesson in terminology and thoughtful analysis! [subs]
Glad you enjoyed it! It means a lot to me.
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good insights and commentary, thank you for sharing! i've seen a LOT of folks talking very authoritatively about various characters' sexual orientations which aren't canonically confirmed in the text as presented, but have been mentioned in past livestreams and/or tweets. for example, at first i had no idea where the fandom's firm insistence that Alastor is ace actually came from, because it's only barely blink-and-you-miss-it HINTED at in the text via one line from Rosie (also i maintain that it should be normal for fictional characters to have plot arcs that have nothing to do with romance or sex, whether they're aro/ace or not), BUT it was presented as paratext via streams/tweets... at least, until Vivzie gave in to fandom bullying and officially stated that none of the Hazbin characters have a canonical sexual orientation. and that's super frustrating, because that is a huuuuge lost chance to showcase marginalized identities on a huge platform! and if the fandom already accepts paratextual content relating to sexuality as canon, why not just make it TEXT, yaknow?? (disclaimer/to be clear: i WANT Alastor to be canonically confirmed aroace, even if he doesn't use modern words to label it. people shouldn't have to rely on paratext for representation.)
Hi! Thanks so much for saying so. Representation can be such a difficult balance to strike. On one hand, you need it to actually be on the page for it to count. On the other, it can be so clumsy to say, as Talai once did in an interview, "I'm an aro-ace!" Ha did the voice; it was very funny. As for his, "haHA never going to happen!" Charlie does literally the same thing the two times random dudes proposition her, and she's not ace. That means that can't be conclusive evidence of his being ace. Maybe don't randomly sexually harass people, especially if they're at work??? But seriously, I'm so glad you enjoyed it. New video tomorrow ;)
So one. You must live in a different time zone from me. To be clear i don’t actually want to disclose where you live. It is more the distance seems like it is far enough apart that you post time is a wild hour where i am. Second i think when people ask for interesting female characters in greek mythology Penelope gets skipped over. I think she gets put in the “wives of heros” category and because most of them could be replaced by a sexy lamp people forget she is given agency in her part of the story. One thing specific to Panelope is that the point or one of the points of the odyssey is that it takes for ever and is a monster every island story. To the point where odyssey became a type of story. By the time you make it to the end with Penelope many story tellers have run out of time or energy to do her justice. She is cleaver in all of her tactics to distract her suiters. But it is still a crazy long time. To the point where i wonder if Athena intercedes for her a few times. Seems reasonable that Athena would want them to be reunited and try to help Penelope protect herself. I admit i never really liked Odysseus even in the stories where he is less of a narcissist. So modern reimagining where it is about single mom Penelope navigating politics of the kingdom by herself while she waits for her husband to come back has potential. What i mean is i agree that a historic greek audience would make the connections and think it less of a strech for Penelopy to succeed for so long. Now adays looking back it seems improbable how ever cleaver for Penelope to repell the guys for long with weaving tricks. Even if athena didn’t apear in front of Penelope a past audience could speculate that she was being protected by Athena. I may of may not have spelled some names wrong. Apologies.
That would be an amazing story to tell! Gods can pop by Ithaca and see what's up, and then be jerks by not telling the soldiers what's up. I love it! And as for my post time, I actually schedule things in advance because I film and edit things in batches. I do a lot of freelance work, in addition to my 9-to-5, so it's the way I can have anything resembling an upload schedule, haha.
@@chloeeastwood6696 besides mythology references and gods poping in. I think it has some potential to have political and social drama around panelope and her son. Kindnof how in game of thrones a castle staff or other nobles complicate matters for the lord or king being focused one. Most of the men would have left with Odysseus. What kind of gaurd stayed behind. Are there important household staff and servants? Who is loyal to Panelope and her son and who is thinking of back stabbing. Lots of potential for panelope to show her brilliance and subversive athena like tactics. As the kid gets older he can become more of a character and have some agency. I don’t know why hollywood hasn’t given us this movie…. Maybe it needs a successful novel first.
Well, there are a lot of successful stories like this, these days. Stone Blind, Elektra, Song of Achilles, Clytemnestra, to name but a few. Maybe you could write it!
@@chloeeastwood6696 that was probably the most interesting thing to come out of the cait corrain scandals, at least for me. Look at all these greek myth reimagining that are LGBT and and written by LGBT and/or people of color. I typed that and then i realized you may not have caught that one depending on what corners of the internet you frequent. During the fall out i learned about a lot of books that i need to check out.
@cattiefogelsong6399 omg yes!!!
what do you mean the pilot is no longer canon? it's still canon,I think your thinking of helluva boss pilot,cause I've never heard that the hazbin hotel pilot is no longer canon,I've never heard it from viv or anyone that's worked on the show
Alastor doesn’t wear gloves, those are his actual hands. His arms and legs are pitch black, fading into normal skin between his elbows and shoulders, and knees and waist respectively. We never have, and likely never will, see his exposed limbs in the show itself, but Viv canonized what they look like in a response to a piece of fanart of Alastor in a Hawaiian Shirt, and swim trunks, saying that they got the design of his limbs right. He also has hooves, like Charlie.
I admit this is yet another video i spent the entire time staring at the one wall art. I don’t know why but my brain is convinced it is abstract art of a stereotypical flying saucer. I am talking about the one lat is near your left shoulder while you film. The blue and magenta and white stripes. I don’t know why i find it distracting but i is neat art.
Oh, that's one my cousin did! She's a very talented artist. I'll let her know she has a fan.
As for more the content of the video over the topic…. The gumbalia thing. I think in the pilot medrano and crew wanted to jam in some references to New Orleans and that was an easy way to do it. His strange diet could be a set up for Rosie and the canabal being important later. I am not sure we see to much of what everybody eats. I will have to re watch i guess. What i mean is it completely get what you are saying about contradictions in text. I just maybe wouldn’t have used this example… I do like that you point out that charlie really tries to listen and the antagonists like sera and adam do not. I feel like some of the audience didn’t catch this. I feel like it is partly because charlie listening wasn’t as blatant. As you said it is all there and contrast is drawn between charlie and emily trying to listen as well as see past the outside layer contrasted with Sera and Adam. However earlier in the show we see Charlie struggling to listen or pick up some of what is in front of her. Specifically regarding Angle dust. Husk didn’t spend that much time with Angle, vaggie or charlie when he says he knows everything about people. There have been hints right in front of charlie that Angle is not as happy as he seems. And despite wanting to to be the person people tell there troubles to she has struggled on some occasions make people comfortable with telling her things. Interesting, besides vaggie and maybe her dad. The person she has the best time reaching is pentious. After being caught and saved by charlie he seems to be honest with her. I mean the next episode he says he wants to shoot everyone else and sure he may not be able to read a room but he and charlie do seem to get a long. When charlie and her dad have their moment in E5 sir pentious says that was sweet which i thinks shows some of his changle. I think charlie reaching sir pentious can tie into charlie being vonerable to alistor. When he was at a low point he was lucky it was charlie who reached him. When she was at a low point she was unlucky that Alistor was the one to reach her. That contrast i think has a good message about reaching out to people if you see someone at a low point, if you are able to. If it isn’t you or someone trust worthy it would be someone with bad intentions. (Side note she did have her two goats stepping into to try and stop alistor but charlie called them off.) I do think getting better at listening to people or making herself someone people want to talk to is part of her character arc. As well as seeing people for who they are and learning when to be open and when to put on a front. I guess i have tied less of this to what is known publicly about Medrano. I know she has had public scandals most of which has been…. Empty. But life does affect art. I was more interested in her anti capitalism message mostly in the other show and the report that she hasn’t been good to the animation team. Not that that is remotely unique the whole animation industry struggles to pay people. I don’t know how much sense this makes….
It's definitely an arc, and Charlie doesn't always live up to her ideals, but she does have them. Omg how did you get your hands on my angel Dust script?!? You have to stop doing this to me.
@@chloeeastwood6696 the mind reading hat is comfortable. I don’t like most hats.
Okay, there, prof x. Whatever you say...
@@chloeeastwood6696 it took me a while of starting at this comment. Is this a reference to professor x from marvel? I mean i am a nerd but that is not franchise i know well. Anyway the hat is on the hook by the door ready for the next use! 😜
Yeah, he's a mind reader.
I appreciate your guts walking head first into this topic. As for what you have to say…. I do largely agree. One thing that you don’t mention about the text being the most important for analysis and evidence is that it levels the playing field. By this i mean by centering the text and excluding pera text everyone starts with the same deck of cards. With the fans having to wait so long between updated and releases of the official show there has been a semi consistent drip feed of bonus content and the spin off. If that made sence. Asking everyone you are talking to watch every song lives stream or let’s draw or interview is impractical and unfair. talking to other fans who have this context is fun. And sometimes additional stuff can be useful or just fun in a discussion. I think the Hazbin fandom in particular is more prone to paratext being important than other fandoms. I can point to demographics and trends. A large chunk of the fandom are also fans of The Owl House and Gravity Falls both shows encourage fan theories and speculation and once those shows were done Hazbin absorbed a lot of them. But Medrano herself has encouraged this type of fanbase on her own. Both by the schedule and the types of additional content and the way most of this has been presented (lore world building and such). I definitely feel there are fans who treat information from live streams as both intragal to the show and mandatory viewing. I have definitely fallen down the rabbit whole of arguing about para text more times then i want to admit to. For this show and others. For me it is usually fun and i try to be up front with non textual speculation. Or more detected imagination. There are some reading of abrahamic text where Osmodeus is the child of Lucifer. Picturing the Osmodeus of the show doing half sibling activities with charlie is supper entertaining. In conclusion call me out if i wonder off the rails without making it clear that is where i want to go. Or if mu argument has holes or insufficient evidence. Sometimes it is easier to state something and wait for questions….
I think that's really insightful. I also think that it's important to remember that her live streams are really good evidence for discussions about her creative process, something I don't know much about, personally, but which is a really interesting topic for a lot of fans. It just happens to be a slightly different conversation.
Yeah, WHY is alastor so sensitive about this secret? I don't think it's UNHEARD of for an overlord to be in a soul contract with another entity, considering just HOW common selling one's soul is in hell......
Right? I'm so curious how this is going to go
This account is underrated
Aw, thank you!
How crazy that would get you sent to hell is extending grace, the stated basis of redemption by many Christian churches - they are all sinners and it is only grace that gets people into heaven
I think I'm picking up what you're putting down. It's a really interesting concept to think about. Who gets to set and make exceptions to the rules?
the pilot is still canon
The events of it are, but the pilot itself is paratext. If I had a similar scene in the series to work from, that would have been stronger evidence, but don't take my word for it. Medrano herself says it's only kind of canon.
@@chloeeastwood6696 when did viv say that? cause I've not heard that ever
I have a full video on what paratext is and how to use it, but the long story short is that unpublished materials (like interviews, livestreams, and notes) and materials published in other places (like reviews and, in this case, the pilot) are not text but paratext. You can use them in lit crit, but you can't use them the same way you use text. By saying that this pilot is not canon to the main series, I draw that distinction in my essay that the evidence I'm citing is not as strong as textual support and has the potential to be overwritten in the future. Nothing so far contradicts it, and I have no reason to think it will be, so I used it, but I want to acknowledge that my evidence for that point wasn't as strong as my other points that are supported by textual evidence.
Where to start! I really like you brought up Mimsy in the context of Alistor’s deal/promise what ever. I don’t think it is a coincidence that husk brings up alistor’s chain the same episode he acts out of character and is called out for not being his usual self by a different old friend. I think a lot of people lazer focused on what Zestrial said and his call out of Alistor’s disappearance and the rumors. While people liked the confirmation of the back story she gave. Her call out is more interesting. We do not know to much about Alistor and what his life in hell has been like for decades. She does. It is easy to take his answer to vaggie in the first episode as the truth because it feels plausible. He is a sadistic self centered guy. Why wouldn’t he want a front row seat to failure!? I think i have only stumbed across one other youtuber who discussed the significance of Alistor kicking out Mimsy. Aside from his confidence and possibly not having a choise, i think he might have thrown himself into the fight with the sharks because he needed an outlet for his anger. He had a pissing contest with Lucifer and then got called out by husk. He probably wasn’t in a great mood and put on more of a show then he needed to. The other reason floated is he has enough belief in or commitment to the hotel and charlie that he feels he must enforce the rules. I mean he sits with the group watching Angle’s “show and tell” I don’t think he is remotely interested in adult films and don’t think any promise to help charlie would cover this. He sits through some of the trust building shenanigans and he even hangs out during the group relax time before the fight. The only group activity i can think of him skipping is the group bar hang out with cherri bomb. Funnily enough i actually forgot he wasn’t there. It’s easy to miss with all pf the new characters and trying to juggle the recurring cast. Also nifty is there. Maybe he just crashed on the couch or something and didn’t feel like being around that many people. But my point is some of the social activities are probably not covered by what ever deal he made meaning his participation was more voluntary and that could point to a bond with charlie. He could just hang out because his calendar is blank what else is there. Might as well get the entertainment he told vaggie he wanted. It could be to throw off charlie and vaggie or anything else. So when he enforces the rules against an old friend. He could be trying to keep a good thing going. He knows that mimsy will bring fights and messes and probably pick fight with Vaggie and possibly piss off charlie and he needs to nip that in the bud. But he also could be keeping charlie and the hotel safe. I don’t think we get to see husk react to Alistor kicking out mimsy but i wonder if he thought it was wired. Him pleading with Alistor to send her packing earlier points to him knowing this behavior is unusual and unlike mimsy and possibly nifty he knows more about the deal alistor is trapped by. I don’t know how coherent this is. I think you made a good observation that Alistor kicking out minsy is string evidence that he does not have the autonomy that he pretends he has. Charlie and probably Vaggie take this at face value. While they do have some idea who he was it probably just rumor and maybe seeing him is passing. Maybe if he has more moments of people who have know alistor longer like Mimsy, Husk, Rosie, Zestial many even Vox vaggie could pick up on it and realize that alistor is trapped. Liked a caged animal alistor could eventually snap and lash out to escape possible hurting charlie to do so. It will not matter if they have a bond is Alistor is desperate enough he may stab charlie in the back to save himself. Which plays into your season three idea! Last point on Minsy, some people thought she was an anti-Semitic characature. She was not intended to be. She is supposed to be a chicken demon. That is why her nose is like that. I tend does not absolve impact of course. I would not mind if she got a redesign if/when she comes back. Make her more bird like, more chicken feather and i think people will be less offended. I don’t know, it was a small blow up when the show was reaching people who were not already neck deep in the fandom.
Yeah, I really like Mimsy, and I was surprised to find out that people REALLY don't like her. I won't pretend the similarities aren't there, but I think it's also possible that people start from a place of hating her and work backward. Never mind the fact that there's stronger evidence for Charlie being Jewish than Mimsy, even if she was... her character design is in line with all the other freaks in the show. It's not like they all look normal and Mimsy looks like this. No. I also have questions for people who don't like her. What do they have against a plus sized possibly Jewish flapper girl living her best afterlife?
I really love your content (also first because sayign that when you comment first is a thing apparantly), especially your stuff hazbin hotel becuase it feels more authentic and analytical rather than just followign common fan rhetoric. In terms of my thoghts on Alastor, lillith, etc. I am of the belief that Eve is somehow involved becuase I feel what we know about lillith (ie she felt herself equal to Adam and is likely quite stubborn as she refused to bottom(I know that specific interpretation is from other sources but hehe) and made good from beign made queen of hell) it feels kind of out of character for her to make a deal with Adam. It sort of involves a level of submission, but she was totally against this. But who was literally designed to submit to Adam? Eve. Thus comes the theory that it was Eve disguised as lillith we see in heaven at the end of season 1. From this there are 2 possibilities. 1: Something happened to Lillith 7 years ago due to Eve and in desperation and care for her little girl she turned to Alastor as a last resort to ensure Charlie remained safe while Lillith was comprimised. 2: Eve has been masquerading as lillith for far longer, perhaps even to the extent that she's charlie's mother (potential backing for this is in conventional lore that lilith can't bear children). This potentially also explains why she kept charlie and lucifer apart and then seperated from him. But 7 years ago something happened and Eve made deals with Adam and Alastor. I definietely want the second idea to be true just because of how batsh*t crazy it is but if eve is "lillith" the first seems more likely.
I like that so much! I also really hope Eve makes an appearance. And thank you! I don't see any reason to be anything but authentic and original. Popular speech doesn't need to be repeated.
@@chloeeastwood6696 there are some mysteries that the show wants to hide in plain sight. Like keekee the cat. A literal key to the hotel. Hangs out with Sir Pentius night before he asends. She seems more traumatized after the battle then fat nuggets and Lucifer uses her to rebuild. It feels like most of the picture is there. We are just missing one or two holes in very middle. If that makes sense. I think eve is in a similar boat. They set her up at the beginning and then leave a gapping hole. Whenever we see adam there is the question where is eve? Woman who follows around Adam isn’t eve. And then adam kick it a second time and then lute talks to Lilith but there is still not a clear look at her face. We are ment to know we don’t have all the pieces but clues are waved in our face.
@@BecauseICantEdit so i re read your comment so i can. Respond better. There are a lot of people speculating and Eve lilith saw at some point. And how much of this Lucifer knows. A lot of people fixate on the necklace and horns. As well as possible infertility of lilith. That last one to might explain why it took so long for Lucifer to have an heir. Ans while he may not know everything going on with lilith and eve he may know more than he lets on to charlie and us. During the fight with Adam Lucifer says that Adam’s fist wife liked what he had to offer and so did the second and made a gesture for oral sex. He says with publicity. Charlie could have heard this and realized her dad has slept with eve after eloping with lilith. This does open the door to a intentional surrogacy. But it is not definitive so maybe Lucifer doesn’t know. As for Lilith being the one Alistor made a deal with… it is all speculation. Having been in this fandom for quite a while there was a lot of fighting about whether Vaggie was an exorcist or not. The fans were in a similar boat. There wasn’t a lot to go on but there were clues. At the time i remember people saying her general look and showing up with spear was too obvious. And then Medrano lamp shaded this telling fans sometimes the obvious is true. So i have made the case not to discount Lilith being the one who made a deal with Alistor specifically in the grounds that it is too obvious or not elaborate enough. Do i believe it? Well…. Yes. As of now. For me i am more interested in the Lilith eve heaven situation. Who did we see? It was probably lilith but who knows. Lute probably would not be in the loop and she seems to low ranking. Although it would certainly be a twist if she was pretending to be loyal to adam and played him tor a fool. Also who else knows. Does sera know? In conclusion I don’t know, i have conspiracy theories and i am very interested. Side note there was a funny fan comic where Emily wants to take charlie to see a beach during her visit in episode 6 and Sera fanatically jumps in and suggests something else and distracts the two and takes them away from the beach. Hinting she knows but Emily doesn’t. I am sure it didn’t happen but it is funny to imagine.
Yeah, speculation over paratext is always like that. I can't wait to get my answers in Season 2.
1:36 I agree Charlie had been warming up to him, but when Alastor was in manipulator mode that episode, his liking of Charlie is a lot less convincing. Not to mention Alastor's long-term intentions with the Hotel being to let Charlie invite Sinners in for the entertainment in seeing her methods fail, but eventually having many different Sinners in one place might benefit him as an Overlord, and who knows if his soul contract has anything to do with it too. For now his and Charlie's "bond" is very one-sided. 8:21 For casual fans and new viewers, maybe, but hardcore fans of the Hellaverse (who would be a majority of the viewers of this show) would know from the meta lore about the demon power hierarchy (later visualized as the chart you used at 12:09), that the ruling family are the most powerful beings in Hell (potentially matched only by Roo but we have yet to meet her or see her power scaling). Because of how interpersonal she is, *Charlie just doesn't think about or maybe realize just how powerful she is*. 8:43 I don't think her reaction in the pilot was explicitly about him hurting her, but about his chaotic evil reputation that meant that his presence meant trouble for them and their business- not from his "hard power", but his "soft power" as a trickster who thrives on chaos. If her worry was about "hurting" them, it'd be mental or emotional hurt and how he'd hurt the hotel as a business. That's why she was wary not only of him but his intentions of helping with the hotel.
Part 1, 100%. They have a very complicated relationship and I can't wait to dig in a little more in my upcoming Charlie series. Part 2, it might be cool to have some kind of data on that kind of engagement, but I'm not at all sure how you would go about collecting it. Regardless, I'm personally of the opinion that media should be able to stand on its own without paratext. Paratext can enhance your enjoyment of a piece of media, but it isn't the media. Part 3, i think that's open to interpretation. I think my case is pretty strong, but I'm not too fussed if someone thinks differently. My question for you is: what are the broader implications of your evidence?
LMAO He doesn't have to look at her he already committed her to memory.
Alastor offered his assistance for the pleasure of seeing sinners fail spectacularly. She ordered him to assist the hotel so long as he wished to. In a way he is working for her. There are things he might not be able to do because of contract that he could get her to do.
great video and I like your eye makeup! Looking forward to part 4.
Thanks so much! It should be up next week!
The last stand alone comment i was going to make is on the song ready for this. I really like your focus on the song as a part of Charlie and Alistor’s character development. It is very underrated. As a song it is… not the strongest written in words but also competition of music. I think the song needed only one or two melodies with maybe one bridge for Alistor’s and rosie. The song as a song lacks cohesion. It doesn’t flow. As a musically number in a story it is really important. I don’t know how intentional this was on Medrano’s part. The end of the song has a some royal brass when the canabals sing they are ready for it and when every one sings the time has come to go to war. That exact sound has a long history of being used to introduce the royal families of europe. The big brass makes the individual seem powerful and underlines both the royal’s martial prowess as princess and kings were supposed to be warriors. As well as their political might. The head or state governing or ruling the people. In theory it was a king or queen’s job to create or maintain peace and prosperity for the people. I like to think the strong brass in the end of the song represents Charlie striving for the goal of being a political and military leader. The canabals sining with the brass symbolizes they accept her command and will willing be her soldier in the upcoming fight. I probably saw more into the uses of brass than Medrano was going for. Just pretend this comment fits in with the discussions of hard and soft power…
Alastor. His name is Alastor. Cannibals*
Okay, I've finally had a moment to sit down and really go over this song verse by verse, and there's a lot going on. I hear three distinct melodies. The first kind is when Charlie asks "Have you ever wanted something that was so clear in your mind that you could taste it?" We actually get three distinct verses of this. The first verse and a half come right up at the front. The second starts when she asks, "Have you ever felt like you're willing to die to save the people of your city?" But unlike the last one, this doesn't resolve right away. She cuts the verse in half as she asks, "Who's with me?" The second half of this verse comes right after the cannibals say they want to taste an angel's wings (oh lord). This section of the song picks up, musically, where that second verse left off with "for the first time in my life, maybe i can be ready for this...when Adam brings the battle here, I must appear like I'm ready for this." The third verse comes at the end, and this time she's not singing alone. We get a true ensemble of voices backing her; her mission has been successful. The second kind shows up in two places. The first verse starts "wouldn't it be super to see more of Hell?" She's propagandizing to them, using a lot of the kinds of tactics that recruiters use to get people to sign up for the army. Travel, friendship, memories, cause, etc... And when this music comes back again with "Well, that's a little violent, can we tone it down?" Like, she's stirred them into a bloodthirsty frenzy and now she's commenting on it. Rosie jumps in and they keep the recruiter talk going. It makes perfect sense that these parts of the song sound the same. Finally, there's the part that sounds like, "it's time now to act; they're on the attack...so i say, oh hey, come join the flesh buffet!" This is in response to Charlie's propagandizing. It's a call and response. She sings, the cannibals sing. The second time we hear it is Alastor and Rosie's commentary on how enthusiastic they are. "They're dancing along; they're singing her song," so it again makes sense that it has the same musicality. So, what we have are three distinct musical ideas represented by three kinds of music that all weave together to tell a story. 1. charlie wants to tell everyone why she's here get them on board with her dream. 2. recruiting song 3. cannibals are on board with coming with her. With the instrumentation and the music styles chosen, I would say they actually work really well in a story telling sense. As for the instruments, I have my own theories about them, but I'm going to save the for my upcoming video series on how the songs work together to create, reflect, and bolster character and plot arcs.
@@chloeeastwood6696 extra creator points for taking time and crafting a response days later! I need to read your post a fee times before i can give you a quality response. (I have a mental disability. I am not a fast reader.)
You know that moment you highlighted of vaggie tells charlie that maybe she could use some of the power she has in hell. With out knowing the plot twist with vaggie you could assume she is more versed in some of the soft and hard power dynamics of hell. She always comes off are more street smart than charlie after all. But knowing that vaggie has spend about three years in hell at that point. It is more interesting to consider her prior environment. I wonder when she says charlie could use she status to do stuff if she was thinking of someone like Lute or Adam. Both seems inclined to happy to wave around what ever power they have. The way he casually bullies charlie and then frames himself like he is really important in the hierarchy of Heaven. Or atleast he seems like his is trying to imply this when he walks down the cloud stairs. Lute seems awear that she and possible adam don’t have any real rank in heaven at least amongst angles important enough to be in the court room. Maybe amongst earth born soles Adam is important. Lute uses her proximity to adam to control the other exorcists. Adam seems like the type to abuse what ever power he has and try to make himself seem more powerful and important. Understanding that some of when we see is songs is not literal or diegetic. Songs are often mostly or entirely non diegetic but Haven is very ambiguous about this. So even if he did walk down to her on cloud steps i sure he did something to make himself seem more important that the princess of hell. That was more of a tangent. Where i was trying to go with all that is we know with complete certainty that Vaggie has to spend a lot of time near adam. This is how he acts. She spends time with the princess of hell who undersells who she is. At first that must have been really refreshing. But i am sure there are times when vaggie wishes charlie knew how to throw he weight around. Not that she ever wants charlie to be a narcissist or bully like Adam but certainly know how to play a strong hand during negotiations.
It's definitely an interesting perspective to consider!
@@chloeeastwood6696 i am super interested what day to day life is like for the exorcists. Do they live in barrocos in a more isolated part of heaven. That would help with intra group control. Re enforce the culture of loyalty to adam and hatred is sinners. It is also easier to keep a secret that way. Not that heaven can’t be better tan earth but down here is really hard to keep a big secret among a lot of people. To the point where social scientists do research on real conspiracies and how they leaven, when and how many people it takes. I guess it just feels more realistic. Both as a pseudo military group and as a faction tasked with a really serious secret for them to be housed and bend a good chunk of the time isolated from broader society. I say all this (because i need someone to talk to) to explain why it took quite a few years for vaggie to finally rebel. I am just really interested what vaggie’s life was like. I hope we get to follow Lute around next season.
In the beginning you talk about charlie’s tone and word choice when she criticizes alisor. While you are probably right that she is a bit unsure of him and the strength of their professional relationship. I also this she is just conflicted averse. It is one of those second or third time watching hints i think. Lots of new fans watched the pilot after the first episode and took charlie’s reaction to the crappy add as establishing her lack of backbone and excessive need to stay positive.
Yeah, that sounds about right. :)
You are over thinking the issue,it just comedy
Part of the joke is that Abner is convinced Gladys has gone 'round the bend, moreso since the Stephenses moved in next door. So his responses to Gladys are frequently nonsensical and dismissive. The other part of the joke is that you are completely devoid of humor.
I thin kyour videos are really interesting but the way you insert clips to back up your point can be annoying when they have content so similar ist gets repetitive (for example when you went from your statements about alastor and the radio to the near identical ones made by mimzy)
Yeah, I think I know what part you're talking about. I tried to break it up by pulling different clips from the same story, but there're no two ways about the fact that it's not as snappy as it could be. Thanks for the feedback.
totally didn't see how he was manipulating Lucifer to keep the hotel going and not just antagonizing for some unknown reason. this makes way more sense. Still can't believe some fans think he really feels like a father to Charlie. he's so good at manipulating it even works on some of the real life audience lol. can't wait for the rest of the videos!
Thank you so much! My personal theory, there, is that they're not considering the whole show when analyzing the song. I did a video on this song in particular s while back and i talk about that fan theory a bit.
I really do hope that part of Charlie’s character growth is learning how to manipulate politics to get what she wants. It would be cool if she could learn from people like Alistor and Rosie how to navigate power struggles and do hard ball negotiations. Learning how to force someone’s hand by threatening to take everything away. It is not in her nature but i think she can learn to do it knowing she is working for what she wants even if some of the steps are not what she wants to be doing. Because we see less of Emily it is hard to say definitively that she lacks the skills to play hard ball in politics. But it seems that Sera kept her away from the more intense political side of heaven and so Emily should learn this too. Both Lucifer and Sera seem to have neglected to teach their respective child figure how to weild the power of a serephim angle. I think a lot of fans want to see Charlie learn from Alistor. Wether or not he is intentionally teaching of if charlie has simply picked up his behavior. If emily does fall. Big if. Maybe she would be a better student. She wouldn’t have anything more to loose and may have more motivation to change the system. I don’t think emily is going to like Alistor but seeing them interact could be great fun! SorryI could not stay focused in my comment….
Stop reading my mind! Seriously, so much of this is straight up in a script for a future series on Charlie. I love her and her arc so much and I love that you're big on Emily, too. There's this idea championed by Huey Newton, Revolutionary Suicide, that's relevant to them. More on that in a future Emily video. Ahh so much Hazbin so little time!!!
@@chloeeastwood6696 i will put away the mind reading hat. 😜
I never thought of hell's greatest dad as alastor indirectly pushing lucifer to step up, thats clever 👍
Thanks for saying so!
I don’t know if that was his conscience intention, and unconscious one just a side effect. Any way i do think it motivated Lucifer to be more active and supportive in Charlie life and goals. I do wonder in an alternate time like. If alisor was out and about and did not have a pissing contest with Lucifer is he would have not supported charlie…..
I do wonder! I go into my theories as to why he showed up in part 4, but once we start speculating, who even knows?
@@chloeeastwood6696 i am really excited to continue speculating. I will say in hell’s greatest dad Alistor is lucky that Lucifer has such restraint. Alistor may have know that Lucifer wasn’t going to hurt him in font of charlie. He may even know about lucifer’s depression. But it is still a risky move pissing off someone as powerful as Lucifer. Lucifer could come back for him later and stage it as an accident. In the song i think is also trying to manipulate charlie and play up their bond so she will protect him is Lucifer gets to upset.
For real! It's interesting, too, that Lucifer has immense restraint and Charlie has so much potential. I feel like it would be very interesting to see her grow more powerful and need to learn restraint, which she's never before needed.
Even when Amazon picked the series, this is still, at heart, an indie project and for most indie projects, some information is expected to come from outside sources. Even big multimillion projects like War of Warcraft do it where you need to buy extra material to have the full lore, that doesn't mean is not canon or a theory. Facts are that Alastor is a mixed creolle, was from New Orleans around the 30s, was a serial killer and radio host, was a mama's boy, had a moral code similar to Dexter's, was mistaken for a deer and was shot in the head and that's why he's a deer demon in Hell. There is a prequel comic that is canon and the pilot too, this last one more in facts than imaginery. Also, those are his hands and he really pulled his hair, there is a tuff of hair in his hand.
Hi, thanks for the comment! You're right that this project has a lot of paratext to choose from to supplement your watching, if you so choose. It sure is fun to hunt down new lenses through which to enjoy your media while waiting for more content to drop. Yet, there are some problems with taking paratext as gospel - see the "Dumbledore was gay" debate. If you're not overly familiar, I made a video on it about a year ago called Dumbledore isn't gay. Basically, author head canon is all well and good, but their ideas have to make it into the work. Other commenters have already pointed out the veves as an indicator that Alastor has a connection to voodoo, which is textual evidence, and I've actually caught one more New Orleans reference that I'm going to dig into in a future video, so I won't spoil it here, but it's good and nobody's talking about it... yet!
@@chloeeastwood6696 Looks like the same, not the same. Rowling wanted social points for Dumbledore sexuality. Viv had no idea if her project was about to take fly, she had others projects that never took off. In fact Hazbin cames from one of those projects: Zoophobia. She made streams talking about the characters, she drew a lot on those streams, answered questions, trying to gather interest in them and the story. She said a lot of things people almost ignored (like saying that Lucifer was a goofball... People saw the pilot, ignored that and we have fanart and fansongs that doesn't reflect that, that versión people assumed he was for Charlie's words. How is Lucifer? A goofball). Doesn't mean they aren't, simply they didn't show them in the show yet. Viv said next season we'll some backstories, I hope Alastor is included. Sure there are headcanons about him (aka the scars on his body for example) but others are simply things showed or talked previously that surely will come to the series sooner or later
@Vengerin When they come out, they will be canon, but until then, they're simply paratext. They can guide an analysis of the text, but they can't replace or supercede text. Of course, one can do an analysis of paratext as text, but at that point, one would be analyzing livestreams rather than Hazbin, and I'm not really interested in doing that. Further, I agree that there are subtle differences between the two case studies, but those are external to the point I was making.
@@chloeeastwood6696 They will be canon, when they show up in the cartoon is certainly a way of seeing It but you talked about "debunking theories" like in something made up by people, when is previously known information released by the creator to place some bases. In fact, there are easter eggs to that knowledge in the cartoon itself. Mimzy's part in Hell's greatest dad, for example, her part is aimed to old fans, waiting to see her for the first time. Theories are Alastor is full of scars or him being aromantic, that one was debunked by Viv and Amir... Alastor is creolle is not a theory, is previously released knowledge. You can call It paratext but that previous knowledge is becoming canon. For example today they presented a clip for next season with Baxter in it, a new character that we all old time fans knew perfectly who he was.
I hear what you're saying, and I want to clarify a couple of things. First, I've already walked back my claim that Alastor being Creole is a fan theory. I've also been presented with pararextual AND textual evidence since then, and I've found additional textual evidence that I'll present in an upcoming video. It's really cool, so I can't wait to share. Second, drawing a distinction between text and paratext is an important and necessary practice in literary criticism, no matter the import you place on one or the other. Personally, I'm not a death of the author type, but I also don't prefer to engage in analysis that relies on paratext. When this information is in the text in future seasons, that's when I'll do analysis of it, but it's not proper to do analysis of it beforehand. As for dropped scenes, I love them and think they're great, but again, I'm not going to touch them critically until we have more context. I've done a video on the importance of context in close readings, too - it's the one on Hell's Greatest Dad. Ultimately, our disagreement is one of how much importance one should place on paratext, and I think that's an area where scholars can disagree.
Grow up.
In defense of Lucifer I will say that it was natural for him to be distracted by Charlie's pets, after all he created them, they are like his babies that were entrusted to Charlie. Second, Charlie has too much pride and that complicated the relationship between her and her father. She complains that her father rarely calls her, but how many times did Charlie call her father in the last 7 years? ZERO. Also his father had depression, depression can cause fatigue and lack of energy. Feelings of hopelessness, helplessness, worthlessness, guilt and self-hatred. Loss of interest or pleasure in activities that the person previously enjoyed, among many other things. He didn't ignore his daughter because he wanted to, he was going through a bad time and saw himself as someone who could cause problems or be a burden to others. That is why he was surprised by his daughter's invitation, regarding Charlie's project it is natural that he was not convinced, from what we know about him is that he was not different from Charlie, he was happy, creative, positive, and an enthusiastic dreamer. But he was betrayed and banished for giving free will to humanity and was condemned to not be able to see the good actions of humanity, he could only see the bad actions and after thousands of years he lost faith in humanity and felt guilt for every thing. Charlie didn't understand her father, she just projected her frustrations in him without knowing anything about him and without having tried to understand him. the typical case where the mother raises the daughter in a way that only develops a bond with her and not with the father.
Got it in one!
@@chloeeastwood6696 I appreciate that you took a little time to read the entire comment, I needed to clarify or point out a few things. I've seen a few reaction videos from other people breaking down the dynamic of Charlie, Lucifer, Alaster, and Very rarely people understand Lucifer.
Yeah, I agree! There's a lot to explore and I would like to get more into Lucifer’s own day issues in the future. The fandom, it sometimes feels: "Media literacy is fudging dead!" Me at them: "I have to disagree with you there..."
I personally hate it when people ship him with other characters because he's canonically aro/ace and they whine because they can't accept queer people.
Yeah, it really feels like a failure of creativity, too. Like, is that the only characters dynamic you find interesting? Obviously not, since you liked a character who was aro/ace! It's why I made this series-- let's take a look at the character we all like so much and get to know him FOR HIM.
@@chloeeastwood6696 I'm queer as well, Bi/genderfluid/grey asexual ('greyA' at least in the past 15 or so years hormonally driven I'm sure), so yeah I get it.
Haha you get it!
He's just ACE, not aro, that has been said by both Viv and his VA Amir
@@Vengerin Citations needed
9:33 When it comes to physical contact there's a big difference between touching other people, and other people touching you in terms of how it makes either person feel. When we say Alastor is adverse to touch the fanbase means the latter. In paratext (as you call it) lore, Viv has said that Alastor has double standards when it comes to his moral code- he doesn't hold himself to the same rules as he holds others to, and that can be seen in how he handles physical contact. He may be touchy with others (and I theorize he does it to make others feel he's dominant over them, and as some level of control freak that in turn gives him a sense of security), but when he's not, he's almost always positioned at a distance from others. The times where other people touch him are a lot fewer in number and all have one thing in common- females he trusts (Mimzy, Niffty, Charlie); he seems physically guarded around everyone else. In episode 5 after his kaijuu moment he even takes Mimzy's hand off him, so perhaps he has a limit to how long others can touch him?
What an interesting thought. I'm not sure I would hold one's aversion to physical touch to a moral standard. One's morals and ethics are very different from the elements that make up one's physical and psychological comfort. I just want to clarify that before anything. Second, I can't take credit for the idea of paratext, as cool as it would be to coin such a term. It's just the lit crit word for materials supplied by the authors, publishers, editors, etc... Epitext has a place in literary criticism, but it's never going to be my main source, and, generally speaking, it weakens an argument to rely too heavily on it. With that said, we're just going to have to agree to disagree with regard to his body language. It looks to me to me very clear that he doesn't mind physical contact, whereas you see him shy away from touch, but unless substantiated by textual evidence, this is a matter of interpretation.
if you zoom in, alastor did pull out his hair. it’s easy to miss but i’ve watched the scene over and over and i can say there is hair in his hand. also he doesn’t have gloves they are just his hands lol. if you want me to i can post a video circling exactly where the hair is if you’d like.
Alright, eagle-eyes! You got me good. :)
I haven't heard anyone bring this up but I'm not convinced Alastor really killed the other overlords just because they disappeared and people heard screaming on the radio. Nobody ever saw a body, actually saw Alastor abduct them, or is confirmed to have recognized the voices on the radio as specific overlords. I'm not set on that and I don't have a huge alternate theory, I just wouldn't be surprised if there was more to that story. Also, if his rise to power is so unusual it makes sense there would be some kind of trickery or deal-making involved. It doesn't clearly say he gained his powers by killing overlords, just that that's what made people take him seriously. Yeah they don't need to spell out every single thing about how it works and this could be inferred but the fact that it's not stated leaves the door open for a surprise reveal.
Now THAT'S interesting! My second video is on this topic, and I definitely didn't think of it. What a cool idea
@chloeeastwood6696 looking forward to watching the rest of this series!
Thank you! That's amazing to hear. :)
@chloeeastwood6696 i thought about it more and thought of another angle. his reputation is the most important thing to him and it all hangs on that story. if someone could prove it wasn't true that would be HUGE leverage over him. like just think what Vox would say about it. it wouldn't matter what other powers he has, everyone would lose respect for him. and wouldn't that be like the definition of a deal coming back to bite you. like if he made a deal with someone more powerful like Lilith to set that all up for him not realizing they could hold it over him forever & how much it would matter later. because he had just gotten to hell and didn't understand about deals. oooh I'm starting to be more convinced of this idea
You're going to love my second and fourth videos!
Hello! It has been brought to my attention by a very helpful viewer that Vivienne Medrano has confirmed in a livestream that Alastor is Creole. I'll admit I'm not the biggest studier of paratexts, but I did want to acknowledge this here.
Also the Pilot is free on RUclips! The majority of spoken content, rather than visuals, are still canon and relevant to the story of the Amazon Series. There he mentions how he’ll make them all his mother’s Jambalaya after his KO of Sir Pentious. He also confirms when he lived: “why I haven’t seen something more entertaining since the stock market crash of 1929! So many orphans…” And it’s been referenced to oblivion through livestreams, implications, and general lore that he’s mixed race. So much so that it’s canon. Also the Voodoo-like symbols and imagery are still maintained in the Amazon show, showing that yes: creole man from Louisiana is still the angle the series is continuing with. Also pay close attention to his natural accent when he says “your choice” to Vaggie in Episode 1. Whatever accent that was is completely missed by a lot of fans and isn’t talked about a lot!
@FallenApprentice Well, I hadn't really looked into the veves until you brought them up, but yep, they're right there. I've already walked back "where is this coming from?" but I do think that it's worth holding space between paratext like the pilot, livestreams, and writers' notes. I, personally, have a pretty strict preference for text over paratext, so while I don't disregard it out of hand, I don't like bringing it into my analysis, either, at least not as a key data point. That goes double for fan speculation, and, to be clear, I include my own videos in that category. Nobody should cite me as a source, lol. I don't say that to dodge responsibility but to illustrate that, as a secondary source, I can participate in the discourse but don't have any authorship of my own. Even if something i say catches on, if Medrano decides to contradict it in the text of the show, then that's canon. Same if she contradicts her paratext in later seasons. It's not locked in if its just a livestream or just her notes, even if thise notes leak, and they can guide an analysis but can't be the basis of the analysis. What I'm getting at is that the veves are a much better indicator that he practices voodoo, has practiced voodoo, or has had voodoo practiced upon him than the comments about jambalaya in the pilot or Medrano's comments in the livestream, so thank you for in-show the reference.
@chloeeastwood6696 His accent is the Transatlantic accent that was made so that radio hosts can be heard, it's clear and understandable for the general population. And he's the Radio demon, not the Creole demon, it's a persona that he based off of his golden years, his pride and joy. And it's a mask that doesn't let others see the real him, just as his smile is. And the people whining about him using voodoo: for one, it's religious superstition, it's not real. Two, it's Louisiana voodoo, so you can literally go down there right now and learn it from a practitioner, anyone who's willing to learn is welcomed to join. And not to mention this is only the 1st season, Viv and her crew have barely scratched the surface of the cast's character arcs and such, you're not supposed to have all the pieces of the puzzle right off the bat, so it's no surprise that we don't know why he hides most of his past and culture.
Well, exactly. There's a lot that hasn't made it into the show, and I don't think it's right to do analysis of unpublished work, except maybe as a supplement to a larger point. For example, video three has some paratext, but if I had taken it out, all my points still stand. I just don't want to hold Medrano's offhand comments or writer's notes to the same level as her published text. Also, I just want to make sure I understand that you're drawing a distinction between the version of voodoo that we see in the fun demon show that makes soul binding deals vs a religious practice that brings real people spiritual fulfillment, right? We also don't know what religion he or any of the characters follow. Vox and Alastor both borrow from a catholic esthetic in episodes 2 and 5, but who knows if that's supposed to mean anything or if it's just imagery? A lot of voodoo practitioners follow more than one religion, like mixing their practice with catholicism. I'm not trying to suggest that we know nothing about him, but rather that we don't have the information to support a lot of the definitive claims going around.
@@chloeeastwood6696 About the religion, as you said this is fiction, this isn't the first time someone has loosely used a religion as a creative tool. Christianity, Judaism, Norse, Greek, etc. This should be no different, so there's no use whining about this one, especially when they're not being particularly negative about it, just that Alastor is using it for his own way. And the only people whining about it are people who know nothing about to the point they don't even WANT to try to understand why they're wrong about it being a "closed religion". And the nun thing was him having a play on words, "day one" "nun", kinda self-explanitory. And with Vox, apparently he was a cult leader when he was alive, makes sense as to why he's such a control freak and has the ability to hypnotize people.
As far as the first point goes alastor was indeed confirmed to be mixed creole and was a resident of new orleans at the time of his death, and the symbols that appear around him are from Voodoo, which in real life was a religion formed by creole peoples specifically from haiti, so the proximity to new orleans, his favorite dish being jambalaya, which originated from creole peoples in new orleans, and the fact that viv confirmed him as mixed creole, likely means that he is creole, but since he's mixed its likely that his accent came from the other parent. The other two points are very valid however, and I do agree that there is absolutely a problem in the fandom with certain head cannons becoming a toxic part of the fandom because they get pissy when it turns out not to be true.
You know, I've heard tell of this, but I'm having a hard time finding a source that doesn't terminate in a fan wiki. Can you link me to the source?
@@chloeeastwood6696 A source for the confirmation?
Yes. I have heard that he is Creole through fan wikis but haven't been able to find a source for this statement. Do you have one? I would love the confirmation. Text is best, but paratext from Medrano would be nice, too.
@@chloeeastwood6696 These two links are from Livestreams Viv did, and I believe this is where she confirmed this. Link 1.ruclips.net/video/JQTHw79skuE/видео.html at 8:40 Link 2. ruclips.net/video/y5ONxBZoR0A/видео.html at 1:43:57
Thanks for the links! V cool. I hadn't seen any of the livestreams before and had been going off of the show (guess I'm a bit of a death of the author purist haha) but these are very interesting. I hope we see some of this in later seasons. :)
The pilot made it kinda clear that it's not just about people suffering. It's about them trying to better themselves and failing at that. He wants to watch people repeatedly try and fail at what he sees as a hopeless task.
Yeah! He actually says that in the show, too! I think you'll be interested in where this series is going, so stay tuned.
Really great video, looking forward to seeing the next parts! I also noticed alot of popular fan theories that seemed to come out of nowhere. I've only watched the pilot and the first season, but I haven't seen anything else like the streams from back then when the pilot was being made. From reading comments and looking at videos from around when the pilot came out, I have a feeling that maybe these theories are being carried over from before the show on Amazon. There are already quite a few differences from the pilot and the series, so I can see that long time fans would assume all the lore that they have learned from years ago would apply to the series now, even though that won't necessarily be the case. As an example, just from watching the pilot, I guess I could see where people are getting the "Alastor is Creole and from Louisiana" bit from since Alastor says he's hungry for Jambalaya at the end of the pilot. But it's not clear if that really is the case for the Amazon series.
Thank you so much for saying so! There's certainly a lot of lore around the show and a lot of it is really weird and misleading, too. I totally forgot that he said that about the jambalaya in the pilot, haha. I don't watch it on repeat like I do the main series. There's also this weird fan wiki that apparently has been the root of a lot of the misinformation going around. Some innocuous stuff like listing a birthdate for Angel Dust that Viv never said. They tweeted at her like, "happy birthday to Angel!" and she was like, "did I give him a bday?" And then some weirder stuff like describing seasons that haven't been written and a whole subsection of straight up lies, like that Fat Nuggets was killed by Valentino and that Vaggie got killed off at some point. That stuff literally never happened. There's someone in my personal life who might put together something on it. They don't want to put it out with their face and name attached for professional reasons, so I might get to present it here. Not to mention the one former staff writer who leaked a bunch of stuff that didn't get authorized. Idk. I really feel for Medrano these days. It's got to be hard to have a show that people just overwrite the way this fandom has done.
I do not know if this is going to be a part of your four part dissection but i did want to saw something about Alistor as Ase rep. (Yes i abbreviate asexual as ase not ace.) I have been out as asexual for longer than the pilot has been out. Alistor is a bit controversial in the ase community as he embodies a lot of the negative stereotypes that we get attached over. His narcissism and associated traits like a lack of empathy and being a mysterious loner. Being extremely manipulatively. His violence and cannibalism and sadism are trope more broadly used to demonize the LGBT. I can explain in detail why any one of these is an issue if anyone wants. Just a short statement about the two more tightly linked to the asexual phobia. To many not being sexually attractive is inherently narcissistic. Narcissus himself was too obsessed with himself to be interested in anyone. Some phobes think this is how asexuals work, if they were less self obsessed then they would be normal and attracted to people. Being manipulative works very similarly. Asexual not could in theory manipulate people though sexual mean while not “being vonerable” to the same. None of this is how asexuals work. But a lot of people do not know that so having a solitary asexual character play into these damaging stereotypes is a problem. There are plenty of ases who like him as a character and or do not mind him as representation. That’s fine. I will say he is a rare ase of color which we need more of. I think medrano can do better and give the ases in her fan base more than alistor. Non thrilled about Manmon as he has similar issues to Alisor but Octavia could be good representation assuming the writing comes together. This is not an i hade Medrano or i hate alistor or i am mad at the fandom’s handling of this character. Just pointing something out about representation. The ases tend to get really sad scraps and i am hoping for better in the future.
Hi, thank you so much for watching. It's definitely a part of fandom discourse I've seen a lot, from even before I watched the show. Very interesting, and, as you can see if you care to watch my Good Omens video, I've talked about the importance of ace representation before. It's a topic that matters a lot to me. At this time, I don't have a lot to add to that discourse. It's a topic that feels to have run its course, not in the broader social context, but in analysis of season 1 of Hazbin, including by yourself, as you so eloquently articulate the issue. I might weigh in, in the future, depending on where the show goes and what happens in the real world to prompt it, but once I finish editing my Alastor videos I'm planning to pivot to either Charlie or Angel Dust.
I am so excited to see one of four!!!!!
Thank you! I really enjoyed making this series and I'm so excited to share it with the other fans!
And there's the line "if hell is forever then heaven must be a lie" I don't really know what that means
I think it's like, "if Hell is forever and nothing changes when people improve, then Heaven isn't about being a reward for being good." That's what we say but it's not the truth. It's a lie.